Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Omg...i Might Be On To Something


Rachel--24

Recommended Posts

Rachel--24 Collaborator
We'll both be reading with interest what is treated first with you and how you progress with ART.

Andrea,

For sure I'll be sticking with Dr. Derksen and ART. I know this is the way to go. Finding a good ART practitioner is important. I believe Dr. Derksen would rank as one of the best. It feels very "right" to me. :)

The only thing is that Dr. Derksen only comes to my area every 3 months. I dont know if this is sufficient when it comes to ART?? I will need to find this out for sure. If not....maybe Scott or someone else can help in between....I dunno yet. :unsure: I guess Dr. Derksen can answer this question when I see her.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



  • Replies 33.4k
  • Created
  • Last Reply
Rachel--24 Collaborator

This info. about mercury came from a lecture.....I think the speaker was Dr. Klinghardt. He's pretty much a genius when it comes to mercury detox.

The lecture is very long and I cant post a link since it comes from the Lyme board so I apologize for that. :(

-----------------------------------------------------------------

One thing that is important for you to understand is - you can have metals in the cells, you can have metals outside of the cells in the connective tissue, you can have metals inside the blood vessels, you can have them in the kidneys, or we can have them in the gut wall.

Each one of these compartments requires one of these medications to move it out from there. They are not all working as effectively in all compartments. So - I call this the shuttle system. We use chlorella to shuttle it out of the gut into the stool and out.

We use either garlic, DMPS, DMSA, one of the sulfur containing drugs to move it out of the kidneys. Chlorella and DMPS have a very strong effect on the connective tissue. So we use one of those two to move it out of the connective tissue. We use DMSA or cilantro to move it out of the cell and from the cell wall. We have this shuttle system: we move it from the inside of the cell to the outside; from outside the cell we move into the kidney and in the gut wall, and from there we move it out of the body.

You have to understand each one of these steps. All of the symptoms I showed you are symptoms of extracellular mercury. The are not symptoms of intracellular mercury. Intracellular mercury creates chronic fatigue, creates cancer, creates genetic kind of stuff in children - where you see learning disability. Outside the cells, it creates all this pain, swelling, redness, nausea, all the vigorous symptoms. So what happens when you detox somebody, you want to first unload the connective tissue; because if you detox the cells too soon, you move stuff out from the cells and increase the load in the connective tissue, and the symptoms increase. So what you first want to do - move it out of connective tissue, clean that up, and only then I do the detox from the cells.

By doing detox, very often we find that allergies go away. It goes hand in hand.

When you diagnose mercury toxicity, or toxicity from any toxic metals, remember that when we are talking about mercury, we are not excluding the other metals. We talk about mercury because it is the most obvious of the toxic metals. We found that tin, on a molecular basis, is probably a hundred times more toxic than mercury, in terms of its neurotoxicity. Nickel is very allergenic and has a lot of detrimental side effects. Aluminum in the brain, lead in the brain, we find often when people have seizures. With seizures, we find a focus of either lead or tin in the brain, etc. But you need to kind of take one metal at a time.

Insomnia - is one of the key symptoms we see in everybody.

Insomnia is mercury deposits in the brain, unless proven otherwise. Numbness and tingling in the hands - these are more neurological symptoms. The key neurological symptoms are pain that is either combined with areas of numbness or is burning in quality. These are my criteria. I had a pain clinic for 12 years. I got onto the mercury issue through having a pain clinic and realizing that the patients that were not getting well were usually mercury toxic patients.

When you have mercury toxicity, you get viral infections, or fungal infections, or bacterial infections. The metals change the natural milieu - it renders the own immune system ineffective and now viruses, fungi and bacteria can grow in the disturbed environment.

The symptoms that we often experience are the symptoms caused actually by the parasites, by the viruses, fungi, by the bacteria, but the underlying cause is the mercury deposits in the tissues. Remember: numbness and burning.

When the pain is burning in quality or numb-like; there are areas you can touch and still feel, but it doesn't feel quite right; that is mercury unless proven otherwise. Mercury in the spinal cord, or in the brain in the thalamus, in the center that regulates pain. The same is true for pain in the face: If it is numb or burning in quality, it's mercury, unless proven otherwise. I have found very, very few exceptions to the rule.

Then you have ALS-like symptoms and MS-like symptoms. With MS, don't get the idea that mercury is causing MS. What I believe to be true that mercury changes the environment and then the combination of viruses and other toxins that are trapped in the body because of the mercury are causing the MS illness or the MS-like symptoms. It 's not the mercury causing MS - it is not as simple as that. It is a disturbance of the environment and immune system that then expresses itself in that way. Removing the mercury usually is not enough to treat MS. You have to address the viruses, the fungi, you have to address the other toxins as well to get an MS patient better.

It is similar to the idea of "the last straw that breaks the camel's back" -- by removing the straw, that the back is going to be okay again. That's usually not the case - you have to do a thousand other things.

Then we have neck, oral cavity disorders: gum disease - gum disease itelf is often caused by mercury in the mouth. Loosening of the teeth. Foul breath. Metallic taste. Burning sensation of the face, of the lips. Amalgam tattoos (can be removed easily without surgery). Dizziness, vertigo, ringing in the ears, tinnitus, hearing loss, speach impairment.

We see a lot of that in children. Children who have any type of disturbance in their growth, especially when it is selective: children grow physicaly well, they are intelligent, but they have a speech impairment. Or they grow well and they are hyperactive. Or they grow well and they have a real disturbance with their eyes or their hearing. Those selective things are usually deposits of metals in the brain. In children, it is still quite common here in the US to find lead in the brain - the lead issue is not dead yet. But what I found is usually small amounts of mercury that trapped big amounts of lead and other metals. You can either, for years, treat the lead; or you treat the mercury for a few months. Get the mercury out and the lead almost comes out on its own after that.

These are just a few ideas. Glaucoma, we find very often associated with mercury toxicity, but more commonly, Glaucoma in my experience is an infected tooth, or eye disease, especially if more on one side than the other. Deterioration of an eye usually is an infection in the jawbone. You have to find it and treat it.

GI effects - the whole list of food sensitivities - : that's been the big joke in our family of practitioners, when you do a food allergy diagnosis with a mercury patient, you are going to have out of 600 foods that you test, they are going to be allergic to 485 or 520.; there are very few foods left. The route that everybody else is going down is to leave the foods away. We detox the patient and let them eat what they want to eat. Because you will see that when you detox the patient that one food after another drops off the list of allergic foods.

Abdominal cramps; constipation. Constipation we see very frequently when the vagal ganglia that sit in the gut wall and wall of the large intestine that regulate the motility of the gut, that they are toxic with mercury. That is easy to treat by feeding the people large doses of chlorella - chlorella pulls out the mercury from the environment and free up the autonomic ganglia and the constipation goes away. That is a very common one, especially with women that have constipation - it is compacted by the hormonal differences between men and women. Women tend to be more prone to develop the mercurious colon, which is a constipated, dialated, amotile colon.

Effects on the heart: you have the abnormal heart rhythm -- the heart rhythm is regulated by two systems: one is the vagus - the right vagus, interestingly enough, that regulates the sinus node. When the vagus is active, the heart rhythm goes down; when the vagus withdraws, the heart rhythm goes faster. The sympathetics are in a minor way involved with the regulation of the heart rhythm.

For the vagus, it is very easy to detox - simply with an injection of a little DMPS onto the vagus nerve. We have been able to switch off cardiac arrhythmia just with one injection. People that had twenty years of cardiac arrhythmia - and then followed up with cilantro and drug uptake technique.

We find when we detox people with DMPS, the cholesterol uniformly goes down in the normal range. Cholesterol or the Type I Hyperlipidemia - the type I, is usually not genetic. It is usually heavy metal toxicity. It's not an illness on its own. We see this all disappear when we detox a patient. So everyone with high triglycerides, where the HDL is low and the bad ones are high, that is usually heavy metal toxicity. ......Cholesterol comes down and the sodium level comes up. We found that the mercury toxic kidney is losing sodium. That's one of the wonderful things - you just do a normal lab test, you always have the sodium in there; if it's low and the cholesterol is high - those are two wonderful simple indicators that you can get that this patient is mercury toxic. What we see when we detox the patient with DMPS, the sodium level automatically comes into normal range, because the kidney stopped losing sodium.

Another simple way of monitoring whether your kidneys are toxic with mercury is that your pee is too light. The mercury creates a "too light" urine. You pee and it just doesn' get that full yellow ......smell that you should have. You know what you have done the day before, you wake up in the morning, you have been working out, you have been sweating, you have been eating bad, and your urine should really be smelly and yellow. If it comes out light yellow and nice and fresh looking, worry about it. You most likely have kidneys that are not filtrating properly. These are just some clinical approach - you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure these things out, but they go so unnoticed and nobody speaks about them. This is the way you can monitor yourself. Another one: if your poop floats, you are not making the necessary pancreatic enzymes and are not digesting your fats and probably not absorbing everything else.

As we know, mercury has an effect on each enzyme system in the body and the immune system is dependent on functional sub-systems.

So every aspect of the immune system is down - we talked about the infections, cancer, autoimmune disorders; and there is some systemic effect to look at - headaches, allergies, skin illnesses; thyroid - usually it is a hypo-thyroid condition caused by migrated mercury, migrated from the teeth, to the connective tissue into the thyroid. A very key symptom is cold hands and cold feet - in the morning you get into your car and the car is cold and drive for fifteen or twenty minutes and it takes ten minutes for the car to warm up; but it takes your hands then another hour afterwards to warm up. That's mercury toxicity until proven otherwise.

The autonomic nervous system injury from the mercury toxin is very serious and the ANS cannot respond properly to cold input or heat input; it has these delayed responses. It contracts the blood vessels; they don't open up for another hour even though your car is getting warm within ten minutes, your hands should get warm in ten minutes. That's a symptom that's almost predictably disappearing when you detox somebody for mercury.

Excessive perspiration with the feeling of being too cold, but you are sweating,; chronic kidney disease, kidney infections; when the kidneys harbor a lot of mercury as they usually do, they are prone to be the playground for a lot of bacteria, fungi and viruses, and you have to get the mercury out of it.

The whole hormonal system is affected by it. Any of you who are trying to mess around with DHEA or doing the saliva test to test for the hormones, you find that you benefit from taking DHEA or pregnenolone: The reason our hormonal systems are brreaking down is twofold - one is the stress that I mentioned, the electromagnetic stress, the environmental stress, but the other one is that mercury selectively binds to the binding sites, the ligand sites, at the ionic channels in the hormone producing cells in the body. So anyone with abberant hormones, especially chronic fatigue, low adrenal situation, very very often is mercury related and we know that, because when you treat the mercury, the DHEA levels come up, the testosterone level comes, the three estrogens normalize.

Weight loss or weigh gain. Hypoglycemia - diet plays a big role in it when you eat a mostly carbohydrate based diet, pushing your insulin too hard. Beyond that hypoglycemia is a situation people are prone to with mercury toxicity.

How do you diagnose it. First of all you have to suspect it, and there are not many illnesses on this list here that are missing from all the illnesses. Our basic approach, you come to me with any illness, the first thing I look for is mercury.

------------------------------------

Soooo....to me it sounds like Dr. Klinghardt is saying that mercury toxicity comes first...the environment creates a playground for the bacteria, fungi, virus, parasites, etc. You have to get rid of all of it to get better.

Heres an example of how it happens...

I was also pretty healthy. Never had a cold. Just a little depressed sometimes. Other than that I was flying high. I was heavy metal toxic and even more toxic from dental infections. Ditto for my husband.

Literally every patient that comes in says the same thing. Never had a cold. Never stayed home from work.

It means, as Dr. Klinghardt told me, "your immune system went to sleep years ago".

For this very reason, I consider today the tickbite that I had that caused me to be miserably ill a blessing in disguise.

I got a big cleanup, which also took care of the Lyme and all that came with. You did not start getting sick with the bite.

That was only the straw that broke the camel's back. Read the article again. That same phrase is used therein.

I think this could be why some people get sick right away when they get infected with Lyme and others dont get sick for months or even years. Of course I had mercury exposure prior to getting sick....but then I had ALOT of mercury exposure all at once and now I've got bacteria, fungi, yeasts, and who know what else playing around in my body.

In the lecture he says that the symptoms are actually brought on by the infections but the underlying cause is the mercury itself.

Dang....I really gotta get the mercury out. :blink:

miamia Rookie
Andrea,

For sure I'll be sticking with Dr. Derksen and ART. I know this is the way to go. Finding a good ART practitioner is important. I believe Dr. Derksen would rank as one of the best. It feels very "right" to me. :)

The only thing is that Dr. Derksen only comes to my area every 3 months. I dont know if this is sufficient when it comes to ART?? I will need to find this out for sure. If not....maybe Scott or someone else can help in between....I dunno yet. :unsure: I guess Dr. Derksen can answer this question when I see her.

Maybe Dr Derksen can be your main doc and then consult with someone you can see more regularly. You should find out if he knows someone or if just seeing scott is sufficient if he communicates with him. I always find it is very helpful if your doctors and health practitioners are working togetheer on a sort of team.

Miamia

dlp252 Apprentice

:o Holy cow Rachel, that last (long, lol) post could have been written about me!!! I saw so much of myself in everything written! I've been sort of on the fence on whether I wanted to see a doctor for the toxicity or not, but now I think I have to. No one has been able to help my insomnia, and believe me I've tried almost everything. :(

Hi Armetta! Nice to see you back here!

Well, I seem to have had my first "reaction" or "side effect" from BioSET yesterday. I started getting a little headache while I was in the treatment room...not bad though, but it sort of was in the background, barely there, all evening. Then right after I posted yesterday, I became so suddenly tired that I had to go lay down and it was that way most of the evening. I'm still tired today, but the headache is gone.

This morning I got out of bed and went to turn off my "white noise machine" then crashed into my bed. It was like when you were a kid and spun around several times to purposely make yourself dizzy...you try to walk in a straight line, but veer to the side. That's exactly what it's like. That is mostly gone now that I've been up for a while though.

On a happier note. BUMBLE BARS!!!! Whole Foods finally got my beloved chocolate bumble bars back in. It's been MONTHS!!! Sorry for shouting. Why so excited when I can't even eat them????!!!! Who knows, but I bought them anyway so that Whole Foods will know they are popular, lol, and I KNOW that one day I WILL be able to eat one again. :lol: I did eat 1/8th of a bar yesterday (that was AFTER my headache had started and AFTER I got so tired, so that wasn't what caused it, lol).

AndreaB Contributor
:o Holy cow Rachel, that last (long, lol) post could have been written about me!!! I saw so much of myself in everything written! I've been sort of on the fence on whether I wanted to see a doctor for the toxicity or not, but now I think I have to. No one has been able to help my insomnia, and believe me I've tried almost everything. :(

I did eat 1/8th of a bar yesterday (that was AFTER my headache had started and AFTER I got so tired, so that wasn't what caused it, lol).

Donna,

Can you just go to her doctor or do you need to be referred? Maybe you could email Scott to find out about ART. Did you ask Anna about it?

Good girl with the little bit of Bumble Bar and thanks for clarifying that your symptoms were before you ate.

That's something I may want to check out for Talitha (or bioset). Do they do people that aren't real sick? Talitha has a lot of intolerances for her age, I think, and I think she did have the thimerosal in her vaccines since she was born in 1999. I don't think all of hers did though. If I remember correctly one combo shot didn't anyway. It may not even be that. Just trying to figure why she's have so many intolerances and Micah hardly any, although he's three years younger. She was always my sick child, lots of fevers when she was under 18 months, ear infections. Micah had colds but not the fevers that she did. Seth has been pretty healthy so far but we've not been passing colds around this winter.

CarlaB Enthusiast
If the fibroid were being aggravated by certain foods.....could I feel pain in my pelvic area??

It happens with foods that are questionable as far as gluten content and also some moldy foods.

I'm sorry, that I do not know. I don't know much about fibroids.

CarlaB Enthusiast
Dear CarlaB,

Lead is often put in wood treatments used in the flooring. Something else you should be very concerned about is any treated wood in your home due to arsenic. Children are especially vulnerable to it. They put copper arsenate in wood treatments all the time. It will change their personality, give them ticks and twitches, and make them tired. If you have a wooden deck that your kids play on, make sure they wash their hands before anything else afterward! Lead is in so many things (pipes, candle wicks, lipsticks, etc.) it can be difficult to remember it all. I sell candles with lead-free wicks. You can get soy candles in a variety of places as well. It is good to know you have no metal fillings. I won't even let my dentist put any metal in my mouth! I want all composite fillings. Just use your best judgment, and you will do well. Chelation therapy is a treatment that removes heavy metals from the body. Mercury you can get from dental fillings, tuna, fish, seafood, leather (it is chemically treated with mercury, and you can inhale it) methyl mercury is the most dangerous kind. Mercury is something you must be very careful about also. It can sneak into places you never expected it to. Aluminum foil, tooth fillings, aluminum soda cans, baking soda, and baking powder all need to be avoided. You should read the book "Beating Alzheimer's" by Tom Warren. He talks about how he recovered from this horrible disease. Interestingly, the book talks about how Alzheimer's patients have a head full of mercury once dead. Aluminum is a close second.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

Thank you. We actually have no treated wood. I did know that was unsafe ... I thought you were talking about wood floors. Our floors are new and are sealed with polyurethane.

The only mercury I am exposed to is in the fish I eat. I've tried to cut down on it!

Check to be sure the Lyme doc you are thinking about is recommended by the ILADS. From what you say about him, I would guess he is ... they are the LLMD's who really know how to make you better. All you say sounds really suspicious. If it's not Lyme, it is some other systemic disease just like it!

Do a search for salt/vitamin c protocol for Lyme. That is something affordable and might give you some relief. I did it from when I knew I had Lyme until my doctor's appt. I'd also recommend artemisia annua (not the typical wormwood, it doesn't have the right chemical). It will help with the babesia, which is what causes the sweats. My body temps went up to 98 degrees on the salt/c!!! If it's Lyme, you will need antibiotics, but maybe this will at least help enough for you to be able to work and have your own financial resources.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



dlp252 Apprentice
If the fibroid were being aggravated by certain foods.....could I feel pain in my pelvic area??

It happens with foods that are questionable as far as gluten content and also some moldy foods.

I had pain all over my abdomen/pelvic region, but I also has LOTS of fibroids and a couple of them were big. I think the fibroids themselves don't necessarily cause pain, but I think it's when they press on something. I do think the ones on stalks can cause pain if the stalk were to twist. I had all kinds of fibroids and they were everywhere, inside, outside and in the walls. It's been a long time since I did the research so I don't remember what I learned about foods and such.

I'm not sure that foods you eat would cause an immediate reaction in the fibroids, but it could be something indirect. For example, if you ate something that caused your intestines to do that crazy alien dance thing the intestines could theoretically press against the uterus and if the fibroid was in that spot, maybe that could cause the pain. I think over time what you eat can affect them.

Andrea - I can refer myself to any doctor I want, so that isn't a problem. My dentist gave me a name, and I have the names of the doctors in the office of Rachel's LLMD/Mercury doc. Now it's just deciding which one and when. I've heard it's best to wait at least 3-6 months after removal to do any chelation, but that's just from some sites on the Internet so that's where my indecisiveness is coming from, lol.

And, I think anyone with a lot of intolerances, especially small children would be suspected of some sort of toxicity...just my opinion. The lady I met yesterday at BioSET was having her two small children tested (plus herself). The little girl was probably around 4 max, and the baby was most likely 1 year or less, so I know BioSET tests/treats children.

Scott was there, but I didn't see him walking around this time. He was in a room with a "patient" so I didn't want to disturb him. I didn't think to ask Anna, lol, but the ART testing DOES sound like something that might help me figure out what to do first.

AndreaB Contributor
And, I think anyone with a lot of intolerances, especially small children would be suspected of some sort of toxicity...just my opinion. The lady I met yesterday at BioSET was having her two small children tested (plus herself). The little girl was probably around 4 max, and the baby was most likely 1 year or less, so I know BioSET tests/treats children.

That's what I was thinking as well. We don't have the funds right now but hopefully will be able to pursue testing late this year. I hate to keep waiting because it's probably metals causing the problem.

I was just looking at Dr. Blaylock's article for this month and it goes into lead, mercury, fluoride and aluminum. We have a high rate of fluoride here for which we got the kitchen filter for but it's still in the sink water and bath water along with chlorine. Fluoride and aluminum are in the water together. Also fluoridation can double lead in drinking water. Of course the mercury used to be in vaccines and is still in some.

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Maybe Dr Derksen can be your main doc and then consult with someone you can see more regularly. You should find out if he knows someone or if just seeing scott is sufficient if he communicates with him. I always find it is very helpful if your doctors and health practitioners are working togetheer on a sort of team.

Miamia

Dr. Derksen (shes a woman) will be one of my Dr.'s. I dont know if I'll ever have a "main" Dr.... as they all work together. I pretty much already have a really good team....I am expanding a little by adding in the mold/fungus specialist but dont know if I would continue seeing him. My current Dr. and Dr. Derksen I will likely continue working with until I get better.

I wouldnt mind having Scott do ART for me in between visits with Dr. Derksen. I just dont know if he's going to continue doing it or what his plans are. He will be familiar with me though since he also assists Dr. Derksen while shes here. He will be with her when I see her next month. Its nice when people are familiar with your case and everyone that you're already working with...it just makes everything easier.

When Scott did my ART session the girl who was ahead of me left with 2 huge bags of supplements and meds which she had brought from home...for him to test. I only had one small bag. :huh:

He was happy that I had one small bag....he said it makes things easier when the person is seeing Anna and also Dr. S because they pretty much have a good idea already of what works for them and what doesnt. Whereas some other people are bringing in a ton of supplements and most are not helping them at all...and some are making things worse. I only had one item which wasnt really having a positive affect for me.

I totally think the "team" approach is the way to go....preferably when everyone involved knows one another.

:o Holy cow Rachel, that last (long, lol) post could have been written about me!!! I saw so much of myself in everything written! I've been sort of on the fence on whether I wanted to see a doctor for the toxicity or not, but now I think I have to. No one has been able to help my insomnia, and believe me I've tried almost everything. :(

Donna,

I actually posted that very long speech....mostly for you. I had you in mind and hoped it would be somewhat helpful....even though it was very very long. :P

I'm gonna post more from Klinghardts site later.

I think the man is freakin brilliant....especially with mercury detox.

Here is whar Dr. Mercola says about him...

But Just Who is Dr. Klinghardt Anyway?

He is also a medical doctor but also has a Ph.D. on the autonomic nervous system. He is more widely known in his native country, Germany, and Europe than he is here. Many people know him for his work with needles and neural therapy, but that is only a tiny fraction of his medical contributions.

He has developed an advanced yet simple form of muscle testing called ART (Autonomic Response Testing). His form of muscle testing (ART) is especially useful, as unlike nearly all other forms of muscle testing, it does not work around the issues that limit muscle testing from working, but rather directly addresses them. ART can determine issues that are blocking the proper functioning of the autonomic nervous system. These are usually food allergies, heavy metal toxicities, scars, dental problems, geopathic stress or emotional issues.

His most advanced work is called APN or Applied Psychoneurobiology.

If one does not address whatever is blocking the autonomic nervous system there is a far lower likelihood that chronic illness will resolve.

When I Hooked Up With Dr. Klinghardt

Late in 1998, I committed to learning energy medicine in 1999. I was absolutely convinced that this was the direction that advanced forms of medicine were heading. I took a number of introductory courses such as Thought Field Therapy and Neuro Emotional Technique.

However, I really feel that they pale in comparison to the tools I acquired under Dr. Klinghardt?s mentoring. I am convinced that he is one of the most brilliant and gifted medical pioneers of our times. He has that rare combination of simple brilliance, which allows him to take complicated subjects and digest them and repackage them to his students so they are simple and easy to understand.

He is a kind and gentle spirit and is authentically motivated to provide the most foundational treatments for patients to resolve their illness at the deepest level. It is a incredible pleasure to be in his presence and I consider it an enormous privilege and honor to call him a friend.

Dr. Klinghardt is also one of the leading experts in the world on mercury detoxification and he has developed many effective strategies for removing metals like mercury from the body.

I'm assuming that since Dr. Derksen worked with Klinghardt and was trained by him she has the knowledge to guide me back to health. Thats what I'm hoping....I was impressed with the interview Scott had with her.

Donna....BUMBLEBARS!! :o:o

I had to laugh about you needing to buy them all so that WF will know that they are *in demand*. :lol::lol::lol:

Yeah...I'm sure whoever orders the ice cream there is scratching their head....wondering who in the heck has been clearing the shelves of Stoneyfield After Dark Chocolate for the past 4 months. :ph34r:

The only mercury I am exposed to is in the fish I eat. I've tried to cut down on it!

Carla....the biggest source of mercury comes from the air. Unfortunately its kind of hard to cut down on air though. :unsure:

Check to be sure the Lyme doc you are thinking about is recommended by the ILADS. From what you say about him, I would guess he is ... they are the LLMD's who really know how to make you better. All you say sounds really suspicious. If it's not Lyme, it is some other systemic disease just like it!
Oh...I looked up Dr. Raxlen. He is very good...very well known. He is actually a physchiatrist who caught on to the fact that many of his patients actually had Lyme Disease. He is on the Board Of Directors of ILADS.

My concern would be that he is difficult to see and most likely very expensive.

A private practitioner, Dr. Raxlen combines his specialties as internist and psychiatrist and has successfully treated over 1500 cases of persistent Lyme disease. He is one of the few psychiatrists in the United States to utilize a comprehensive treatment program for depression, panic disorder, bipolar mood disorder, epilepsy, ADD, memory loss, and sleep disorder, all of which may accompany Lyme disease.

Dr Raxlen practices in Greenwich, CT and is on the Board of Directors of ILADS, The International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society,

For those who don't get treated right away - and even for some who do - the Lyme infection can show up months later with much more severe symptoms, including painful and swollen joints, heart disease and neurological problems.

Dr. Bernard Raxlen, a Greenwich psychiatrist who has treated the psychological problems the disease can cause, said he's seen many patients with "brain fog.'' - a general mental wooliness that prevents them from carrying out tasks they could have knocked off it s a few minutes prior to infection.

"I've seen patients with severe hyper-sensitivity,'' he said. "Lights bother their eyes, noises bother their hearing. They have spatial disabilities - they find themselves getting lost in their own home towns. They have language problems - they start using the word 'thing' a lot instead of all the nouns they've lost.''

"And I've seen spontaneous rage, depression, severe anxiety and panic attacks - all from people who were doing very well a few weeks before.''

What's frustrating to doctors who treat Lyme patients is that there's not one good laboratory tests that can identify the disease. Phillips said it's hard to culture the bacteria taken from the body. Other blood tests - which detect the presence of the disease by the infection-fighting antibodies it produces - are widely recognized as unreliable.

"If you think you have Lyme disease, and your doctor takes one blood test and says you don't without looking at your clinical symptoms, immediately run to another doctor.'' Raxlen said. Open Original Shared Link]

I'm not sure that foods you eat would cause an immediate reaction in the fibroids, but it could be something indirect. For example, if you ate something that caused your intestines to do that crazy alien dance thing the intestines could theoretically press against the uterus and if the fibroid was in that spot, maybe that could cause the pain. I think over time what you eat can affect them.

Yeah...I think you are right about something pressing on it. I'm pretty sure thats whats causing the pain. Something I'm eating can set off that alien baby....he's been mellowed out for months now....until I stated adding new foods. <_<

And, I think anyone with a lot of intolerances, especially small children would be suspected of some sort of toxicity...just my opinion.

I totally agree....its the neurotoxins that are causing these problems. I see more kids treated at BioSET than ADULTS.

Rachel--24 Collaborator

I finally found the answer to the question of how is ART different from other kinesiology???

Q: What is the Autonomic Nervous System?

A: The Autonomic Nervous System (ANS) is the part of the nervous system that controls functions such as blood flow, heart rate, organ function, digestion, the immune system and healing, etc.

Q: What is ART?

A: Autonomic Response Testing (ART) is a system of evaluation and treatment developed by Dietrich Klinghardt, MD, Ph.D, and Lousia Williams, DC, ND. ART uses muscle testing through biofeedback of the Autonomic Nervous System (ANS) to determine disturbances and potential remedies. ART is a Functional Assessment used by the Holistic/ Integrative Doctor, to determine bodily function (or dysfunction), not specific diseases. Dr. Klinghardt blended the muscle testing of American Applied Kinesiology with the understanding of the anatomy and physiology of German Neural Therapy to develop ART. The result is a highly structured and sophisticated muscle testing biofeedback system designed to give reliable and reproducible results. A medical assessment tool (like ART) that records generalized and localized ANS disturbance can be helpful in determining the root causes of health disturbances. Autonomic Response Testing (ART) grew out of the importance of detecting and correcting problems of the autonomic nervous system. ART allows the doctor to correct the problems of the ANS and to help restore the self regulating mechanism of the body allowing the patient to return to a state of health.

Q: How is ART different from other types of muscle testing?

A: ART is different from other forms of muscle testing in that is uses the latest findings of quantum and biophotonic physics to aid in the assessment of the body. This allows for a much deeper level of testing not available before to traditional kinesiologists. Tools such as a polarization filter and signal enhancers are used to get stronger, clearer feedback from the body. ART often finds things that are missed with traditional kinesiology. ART pracitioners, in general, also have the ability to test for a wider variety of root causes of illness, including specific infections, toxins, and emotional disturbances.

Q: Can ART diagnose diseases?

A: ART is used along with traditional tests, to determine the root causes of illness. It is not used to diagnose diseases.

Q: How accurate is ART testing?

A: ART has been shown to be the most accurate of all kinesiology techniques, with the best reproducability and inter-examiner reliability.

Rachel--24 Collaborator

More stuff from Klinghardt....about neurotoxins....

Here is an incomplete list of common neurotoxins in order of importance:

(1) Heavy metals: such as mercury, lead, cadmium and aluminium.

(2) Biotoxins: such as tetanus toxin, botulinum toxin (botox), ascaridin (from intestinal parasites), unspecified toxins from streptococci, staphylococci, lyme disease, clamydia, tuberculosis, fungal toxins and toxins produced by viruses. Biotoxins are minute molecules (200-1000 kilodaltons) containing nitrogen and sulfur. They belong to a group of chemical messengers which microorganisms use to control the host

NoGluGirl Contributor
NoGluGirl,

I dont think you are selfish for wanting all of these things for yourself.....we all deserve to feel happy and healthy. However, I dont think you are going to convice your parents of this. :( I dont know that they would *want* you to remain sick. I simply cant imagine any parent wishing illness for their children??

I think you cannot change the way your parents live or the way they feel about your illness. I feel they probably dont understand all that you're going through. Most people do not understand...because its just not an easy thing to relate to....unless you've experienced it yourself.

I did not get much support or understanding the first 2 years....even though this is when I was most sick....and needed support more than ever. Nobody could possibly understand what was happening to my health.....not even me.

I really had to take control over my health and do what was best for me. I couldnt wait around for anyone to do this for me....especially not the clueless Dr.'s I was seeing during that time.

Now I have support from everyone around me...they may not understand *completely*.....but they do understand that I'm sick and they do what they can to help me financially and emotionally.

However, as much as I know my Mom loves me....I do not know that she would be offering as much of herself if she felt I wasnt doing anything for myself. I know my Mom and I think whats made her realize that this is *real*....was because she actually saw me struggling to get this figured out.

She saw me have dramatic changes when I got strict with my diet...she saw me do everything in my power to get better enough to go off of disability and return to work. This is when she really realized that I was not being lazy or depressed...and that something was severely impacting my health.

I think you might need to push whats going on with your parents to the side for now and do what you need to do for yourself. Its not easy and it hurts when people dont understand but the negative aspect of it will be very draining on you....its not going to help you get well.

Maybe they will come around later when they see you are taking responsibility for you health problems?? Right now I dont think they see beyond the fact that you are living at home and not working...yet wanting them to buy you expensive food...I think they dont understand what you are feeling inside or how your body and mind are being affected by something thats making you ill.

At this point you might be better off focusing on yourself. Its obvious your parents arent going to pay for your medical care...you need to concentrate on how you can get some medical treatment on your own. I think when we set our minds to do something we can accomplish our goals. Its a struggle but its not necessarily impossible.

I tend to be on the stubborn side.....when people dont help me out....I tell myself that I dont need them....that "I'll show them"....I'll get where I wanna be with or without their help. It works for me...I keep pushing on.

My parents thought I was a bad kid during my teenage years. They bought my brother a car when he turned 16....paid his insurance.....he got whatever he wanted. I didnt get any of these things because I was a bit stubborn and didnt give in to their demands. They did not like my boyfriend and would not buy me a car as long as I was with him. All of my friends drove at 16....but I didnt care...I would not give in.

I worked and saved my money. After 2 years I bought a brand new sports car. Nobody could tell me what to do with my car...or which one to buy....because it was MINE. My step dad was STEAMED....I think he couldnt handle the fact that I'd accomplished this on my own. It was definately a happy moment for me! :D

Anyways...I'm still the same stubborn girl and I'll get where I need to be with or without anyones help....I believe you can do this too. You just have to push all the negative stuff out of your mind and focus on what you want for yourself. I know you can do it. :)

Dear Rachel,

You and I actually sound a lot alike! LOL! I am one of those who wants to do everything on their own. I am too independant for other people's liking. I always want to prove everyone else wrong. I have done so on various occaisions, too. I have been writing down a plan for health. First, I am going to try and get some vitamins (B-Complex and Magnesium) and work on reducing my sugar and caffeine intake gradually. I will add some walking, too. I think I will go back on The Zone diet, as well. I did feel a little better on it. I am going to do my curse breaking spell to break free from this bad stuff. Getting rid of all that negative crap will help a lot. I am annoyed right now because my father poured and ate cereal right by my coffee! He said he did not spill any, but I told him, it is what you cannot see you have to worry about! Why would he care? He won't get violently ill from it. You see, they wouldn't want me to move out, because I am the only one who cleans anything around here! I do laundry, clean off everything they mess up, clean out the fridge, help get the trash ready to go out, help with the dog that my mother told me is more important than me, get her pills and bring them to her, bring the phone and make calls for her because God forbid she not lay on the sofa like a beached whale all day. If she rolls over, she might die from exursion. My father's life primarily revolves around television. I used to get everything done, but I have been in a funk the past year. It is due to letting everyone dominate my time. I told my mother the other day, I have to study and build a business Web site, and take care of this crap with being defrauded, plus cook something I can eat. If that stupid dog needs his hair barrette in, it is just going to have to wait! Too bad! Oh well. No more of this stuff. Rachel, I have decided that 2007 is going to be the year I stop being crapped on my the universe!

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

NoGluGirl Contributor
First off, {{{{HUGS}}}} to NoGluGirl and Miamia. I sure wish you two felt better! Mia, I definitely miss your posts. Rinne's too! :(

On a happier note... LET THEM EAT STEAK!!!! :lol: I just had a nice big steak, and for my early lunch I had hamburger!!!! :lol: So today I mailed in my stool sample so we can see if the H.Pylori is gone.

Today at BioSET I had Anna...it's the first time since my initial visit that I had her. I think Susan wasn't there today. I told her about my mold cleaning thing so she decided we should work on molds today. I didn't ask a lot of questions because they were having a hectic day and I didn't want to slow her down. I couldn't see all the labels cuz many of them were turned down, but I did see a few that I reacted to...candida was there, but I couldn't see the types of candida. All in all, I did better with them than I would have thought...I had a large glass, but it was only 3/4 full, so not bad really out of two huge panels.

The results of the saliva testing I did with them (for thyroid and H.Pylori) way back at my first visit aren't in, and I guess Denise didn't do anything about it when I mentioned it last week. Anna had the receptionist call and leave a message so they'll find out where they are on Monday.

I met a nice lady in the waiting room (whose name I wish I could remember now). She and her little infant and daughter are being treated. She started around the same time I did. She asked if I had seen any improvements yet, and when I thought about it, I guess I have. She has noticed some too in both of her kids and in herself.

Dear Donna,

Thanks for the hugs! Hugs right back! I am trying to decide what to do first. I think that they do have a plan to reduce the payments on procedures done at the hospital for people like me. When you do not have insurance, people practically ignore you. That is going to change. I am done with this crap of the world disrespecting me. It is time my life improves!

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Rachel, I have decided that 2007 is going to be the year I stop being crapped on my the universe!

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

Good for you!! You can only be crapped on if you allow for it to happen....you can choose for it NOT to happen. If you make it your goal....I'm sure in 2007 you will have alot less crap thrown your way! ;)

The situation at home sounds like it would be enough to make anyone want to break free. I say you take your strong will, and your independance and you prove them wrong. When you are well....they will be doing their own dishes because you will be living your life....and enjoying it. :)

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Scott was there, but I didn't see him walking around this time. He was in a room with a "patient" so I didn't want to disturb him. I didn't think to ask Anna, lol, but the ART testing DOES sound like something that might help me figure out what to do first.

Donna, if you get really interested in ART...I would definately contact Scott or ask Anna how you get scheduled for this.

Also, another option would be to get on the waiting list for Dr. Derksen. She would be another option for you as far as mercury detox. The benefits with her would be that she has was trained by Klinghardt in mercury detoxifaction and she practices ART. The combination can be very useful. That way if there are other issues to be addressed....they will show up in ART.

I dont think ART can be useful as far as having it done once.....mainly because things show up in layers. Its more of a tool to get you from start to finish. Its seems like its more likely to get you there w/out the guesswork...without the chance of taking things which could cause setbacks....without the chance of things being overlooked....stuff like that.

I havent heard or read anything negative about it yet. I think with everything I've experienced so far ART is probably the thing thats got me most excited....even moreso than BioSET....which I still have alot of interest in.

By the way....I asked Susan how long shes been doing it. Its been about a year...she did some pharmaceutical stuff....with chinese herbs for awhile and now BioSET. I think she did something else prior to bioset as well....sounded like she had some kind of schooling before she started. She plans on going to med school. She said its been interesting.

I think after nearly four years of constantly wracking my brain trying to guess as to whats going on and doing all the research and having a general idea but no real *proof*....for the first time I'm realizing that in the last month or so....I am not spending so much time trying to guess as to whats going on. I dont know that I'll ever completely allow my brain to relax though. :rolleyes:

I think having the ART available to me and good people like Anna helping me has put me more at ease.....I think I feel less stressed inside. :)

My Dr. in Los Altos is good. Scott has told me that he's good and he is fully capable of things like mercury detox. I was scared of things like DMPS and I know the Dr. is not ready to just leap into any type of therapy like that with all of my sensitivities and us not having a clear picture. I think the ART will be helpful with making sure we dont try something that I wont be able to handle....which has been my Dr.'s concern from the start.

Also, I trust Dr. Adams.....and I'm sure whomever he recommended is also very good at mercury detoxification.

Because of my situation being so complicated and intertwined...I think I really need ART to get me through.

Heres some info. about Dr. Derksen if you get interested in going that route.

Dr. Amy Derksen, ND, graduated from Western Washington University with a BS in Biochemistry and earned her Docorate of Naturopathic Medicine from Bastyr University in 2003. She has since completed a two year apprenticeship with Dietrich Klinghardt, MD PhD, where she developed her skills in neural therapy, as well as gained extensive training in heavy metal detox and treatment of Lyme disease and neurological disorders, including autism.

dlp252 Apprentice
That's what I was thinking as well. We don't have the funds right now but hopefully will be able to pursue testing late this year. I hate to keep waiting because it's probably metals causing the problem.

I know...the funding thing is slowing me down too right now. The amalgam issue was topmost on my priorities, but that just about drained me (well that and the vacations :P ). My dental benefit is only $2000 per year, so I had to put a lot of the work on credit cards which were already kind of high. :(

I actually posted that very long speech....mostly for you. I had you in mind and hoped it would be somewhat helpful....even though it was very very long.

Thanks!!! :D Would you post Dr. Kinghardts website link? I don't think I had the right Dr. Klinghardt, lol.

Donna....BUMBLEBARS!!

I had to laugh about you needing to buy them all so that WF will know that they are *in demand*.

I know...I stare at the empty shelves every week, and this week I still stared, but it was because I was trying to decide whether I should buy any, lol. :lol:

Oh well. No more of this stuff. Rachel, I have decided that 2007 is going to be the year I stop being crapped on my the universe!

You go girl!!!

Thanks for the hugs! Hugs right back! I am trying to decide what to do first. I think that they do have a plan to reduce the payments on procedures done at the hospital for people like me. When you do not have insurance, people practically ignore you. That is going to change. I am done with this crap of the world disrespecting me. It is time my life improves!

Yep, I'm feeling the financial pinch and I HAVE insurance. Most of the doctors I am seeing now are covered at 70%, but even then, the amount out of my pocket can be quite a bit. The dental work really put a strain on my finances, but I'm glad I had it done.

Donna, if you get really interested in ART...I would definately contact Scott or ask Anna how you get scheduled for this.

Also, another option would be to get on the waiting list for Dr. Derksen. She would be another option for you as far as mercury detox. The benefits with her would be that she has was trained by Klinghardt in mercury detoxifaction and she practices ART. The combination can be very useful. That way if there are other issues to be addressed....they will show up in ART.

I dont think ART can be useful as far as having it done once.....mainly because things show up in layers. Its more of a tool to get you from start to finish. Its seems like its more likely to get you there w/out the guesswork...without the chance of taking things which could cause setbacks....without the chance of things being overlooked....stuff like that.

Yes, I think I'll ask either Anna or Scott next week about ART.

By the way....I asked Susan how long shes been doing it. Its been about a year...she did some pharmaceutical stuff....with chinese herbs for awhile and now BioSET. I think she did something else prior to bioset as well....sounded like she had some kind of schooling before she started. She plans on going to med school. She said its been interesting.
Oddy, I think I decided that I like Susan best, lol--maybe it's because she's done all of my treatments except two. I think she is probably the least experienced, but I like that she tells me what she is doing and why. And, I like that she makes comments on some of the stuff I react to. Anna was great and explains if I ask, but didn't say much otherwise.

I think after nearly four years of constantly wracking my brain trying to guess as to whats going on and doing all the research and having a general idea but no real *proof*....for the first time I'm realizing that in the last month or so....I am not spending so much time trying to guess as to whats going on. I dont know that I'll ever completely allow my brain to relax though.

Wow, I'd say this is great progress! :D

My Dr. in Los Altos is good. Scott has told me that he's good and he is fully capable of things like mercury detox. I was scared of things like DMPS and I know the Dr. is not ready to just leap into any type of therapy like that with all of my sensitivities and us not having a clear picture. I think the ART will be helpful with making sure we dont try something that I wont be able to handle....which has been my Dr.'s concern from the start.

Also, I trust Dr. Adams.....and I'm sure whomever he recommended is also very good at mercury detoxification.

Because of my situation being so complicated and intertwined...I think I really need ART to get me through.

I like the sounds of the doctor in Los Altos, and I think Dr. Adams would refer to a good one two, but I have a little background already on your doctor, lol. I also know that the HN doctors would be able to work with him since they referred you, so that would be a plus...one of the things I've had a problem with in the past was that I had two many doctors who didn't work together, lol. Dr. Adams also suggested I wait 6 months before detoxing, but I think I should start seeing someone a little bit before that just to get a relationship started. Heck, in a couple more months my *out-of-pocket* limits will be met for both in-network and out-of-network doctors, so I might as well go for it. :lol: Anyway, I don't think my situation is as complicated as yours, but I think I was heading there. :(

Heres some info. about Dr. Derksen if you get interested in going that route.

Dr. Amy Derksen, ND, graduated from Western Washington University with a BS in Biochemistry and earned her Docorate of Naturopathic Medicine from Bastyr University in 2003. She has since completed a two year apprenticeship with Dietrich Klinghardt, MD PhD, where she developed her skills in neural therapy, as well as gained extensive training in heavy metal detox and treatment of Lyme disease and neurological disorders, including autism.

Thanks! I think I will at least check it out.

AndreaB Contributor
I know...the funding thing is slowing me down too right now. The amalgam issue was topmost on my priorities, but that just about drained me (well that and the vacations :P ). My dental benefit is only $2000 per year, so I had to put a lot of the work on credit cards which were already kind of high. :(

I hear you. I still need to have my teeth done as well. Of course I need to find a dentist or see if yours would do 2 or more quandrants at a time. I also don't want to do anything till I wean Seth which won't be for another 1 1/2 years.

Is my thinking on this right? I guess I would have to figure out if he'd get more from the amalgams I have or a large dose having them removed.

We don't have dental benefits either. :(

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Thanks!!! :D Would you post Dr. Kinghardts website link? I don't think I had the right Dr. Klinghardt, lol.

Open Original Shared Link

There is also a bunch of links on this page....I havent really checked it out though.

Open Original Shared Link

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Oddy, I think I decided that I like Susan best, lol--maybe it's because she's done all of my treatments except two. I think she is probably the least experienced, but I like that she tells me what she is doing and why. And, I like that she makes comments on some of the stuff I react to. Anna was great and explains if I ask, but didn't say much otherwise.

Yeah...that is totally opposite of me. :lol:

I think Susan is nice and she does explain stuff to me....sort of. :lol:

Anna does rush through it so she doesnt explain each thing in the same way that Susan does. Usually when I'm seeing Susan is when I take my time staring at all the vials and trying to guess which ones I'll have problems with. I get to read all the labels and try to remember them...which is never really possible for me. :rolleyes:

I cant do that with Anna...because we move really fast. Usually I'm talking to her about everything else and I'm not too much focused on the vials. Next time I see her I'll probably be talking to her all about my ART session. I wont have any idea whats going on with the vials and stuff. :lol:

Its probably more calm when I'm there cuz its during the week. Sometimes she isnt so rushed and spends more time.....I get the most benefits from my appts. with her.....from a scientifness standpoint. :D

Rachel--24 Collaborator
I like the sounds of the doctor in Los Altos, and I think Dr. Adams would refer to a good one two, but I have a little background already on your doctor, lol. I also know that the HN doctors would be able to work with him since they referred you, so that would be a plus...one of the things I've had a problem with in the past was that I had two many doctors who didn't work together, lol.

Donna, I dont think Dr. Rick actually knows my Dr. in Los Altos. I think maybe he had just heard of him and referred him me to him. Maybe because he couldnt come up with anything to help me and I was always talking about mercury....so maybe he had just heard of the Dr.

At my first appt. when the Dr. asked who'd referred me and I told him....he didnt seem to have any idea who I was talking about. He just had that look... :huh:

He did know who Dr. Adams was though...he likes Dr. Adams. :)

dlp252 Apprentice
Is my thinking on this right? I guess I would have to figure out if he'd get more from the amalgams I have or a large dose having them removed.

Even though my dentist has a good removal protocol, I'm sure mercury got released into my system during removal and it's hard to say how that would affect Seth. :(

Open Original Shared Link

There is also a bunch of links on this page....I havent really checked it out though.

Open Original Shared Link

Thanks!!! I've printed out some stuff from the first link which I'll read in a bit.

Yeah...that is totally opposite of me. :lol:

I think Susan is nice and she does explain stuff to me....sort of. :lol:

Anna does rush through it so she doesnt explain each thing in the same way that Susan does. Usually when I'm seeing Susan is when I take my time staring at all the vials and trying to guess which ones I'll have problems with. I get to read all the labels and try to remember them...which is never really possible for me. :rolleyes:

I cant do that with Anna...because we move really fast. Usually I'm talking to her about everything else and I'm not too much focused on the vials. Next time I see her I'll probably be talking to her all about my ART session. I wont have any idea whats going on with the vials and stuff. :lol:

Its probably more calm when I'm there cuz its during the week. Sometimes she isnt so rushed and spends more time.....I get the most benefits from my appts. with her.....from a scientifness standpoint. :D

Yep, there are almost always several other people there when I go on Saturdays...this Saturday was worse because on top of all the people, the toilet backed up, lol, so Anna had to deal with that and that put her about 10 minutes behind.

Donna, I dont think Dr. Rick actually knows my Dr. in Los Altos. I think maybe he had just heard of him and referred him me to him. Maybe because he couldnt come up with anything to help me and I was always talking about mercury....so maybe he had just heard of the Dr.

At my first appt. when the Dr. asked who'd referred me and I told him....he didnt seem to have any idea who I was talking about. He just had that look... :huh:

He did know who Dr. Adams was though...he likes Dr. Adams. :)

Oh okay....well knowing Dr. Adams is good too...I'm going to continue seeing Dr. Adams for cleanings I think. I seem to ALWAYS need dental work, so if I need another crown or anything, I'd like it to be from him I think.

diamondheart Newbie
I have decided that 2007 is going to be the year I stop being crapped on my the universe!

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

Hi NoGluGirl,

I'm assuming you meant to say "stop being crapped on by the universe"? Sounds like you have a lot on your plate! I have found in my experience the Universe to be very supportive. I have been very touched with the amount of holding the Universe gives me when I let it. Have you considered that the Universe is making you deal with things that you would have never done so if you weren't in your current predicament? I have to reiterate that all my health problems have been blessings in disguises. It's been hard, but I take care of myself better now than I would have if I never had to deal with these mysterious illnesses. Part of my journey was learning to stand up for myself with the medical establishment. Maybe part of your journey is learning to deal with your parents?

I hope you can do your ritual soon. I think setting your intention with the Universe will really help :) .

Claire

diamondheart Newbie
Those shots are something I don't know if I can stop getting, because I get even sicker when they start to wear off. Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

Hi NoGluGirl,

I'm wondering if you have tried Chinese medicine to treat your hormonal problems? You might be able to find an acupuncturist who would treat you for free or for a reduced amount. You might have to shop around a bit to find an acupuncturist who would be willing to do that. Maybe that would help you wean off the shots.

If you want to learn more about Traditional Chinese Medicine and how it relates to the reproductive system, a very good book is "The Infertility Cure" by Randine Lewis. It's geared more towards women who are trying to get pregnant, but you can also learn a lot about Chinese medicine and how to try to diagnose yourself according to the symptoms in the book.

Here's an article by Randine about Open Original Shared Link. I thought I'd include this link since it's the closest thing I could find about ovarian cysts.

I would guess too that your liver could use some support in filtering out the toxins in your body from excess hormones, leaky gut syndrome, and candida. It's pretty common for westerners to have liver qi stagnation. I have this. Here is Randine's article about the Open Original Shared Link. Both of these articles are straight from her book.

Hope you find them useful :) .

Claire

diamondheart Newbie
I had pain all over my abdomen/pelvic region, but I also has LOTS of fibroids and a couple of them were big. I think the fibroids themselves don't necessarily cause pain, but I think it's when they press on something. I do think the ones on stalks can cause pain if the stalk were to twist. I had all kinds of fibroids and they were everywhere, inside, outside and in the walls. It's been a long time since I did the research so I don't remember what I learned about foods and such.

I wonder what it is that causes women to get so many fibroids? It's epidemic! Something like 50% of women get fibroids at some time in their lives. I know a handful of women at work who have them. How are they related to these other health problems we are dealing with? I'm convinced leaky gut is part of the picture.

I'm kinda bummed because I was told today I "might" have a small fibroid. I don't know if the nurse who did my ultrasound was really clued in about it. She seemed kinda tired from a busy day at work. I'll have another ultrasound on Wednesday with a different nurse, so maybe I'll ask her too. Ultrasounds aren't perfect, and I think I trust my surgeon who removed my fibroids best about reading ultrasounds.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to TerryinCO's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      2

      New Guy Here...

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Matt13's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      27

      Can food allergies like milk and soy flatten villi?

    3. - trents replied to TerryinCO's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      2

      New Guy Here...

    4. - TerryinCO posted a topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      2

      New Guy Here...

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Sicilygirl's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      5

      Enegy level extremely low


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      127,226
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    jrh55321
    Newest Member
    jrh55321
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121k
    • Total Posts
      70k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      Welcome to the forum, @TerryinCO, Have you been checked for nutritional deficiencies?  Damage to the intestines like your doctor found affects the absorption of essential nutrients.  Supplementing with B Complex, Vitamin D, and minerals like magnesium help ensure you are absorbing vitamins your body needs to heal.  Weight loss is often seen in the malnutrition that accompanies Celiac Disease.  Weight loss, Barret's esophagus, and hypothyroidism are related to Thiamine Vitamin B1 insufficiency.  Talk to your doctor and nutritionist about supplementing with Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and other vitamins and minerals. Best wishes for your new journey with Celiac.  Keep us posted on your progress.
    • knitty kitty
      Pancreatic elastase is a digestive enzyme that requires Thiamine Vitamin B 1 to be produced.  Thiamine is needed to make insulin, too.  Thiamine, Niacin B 3, and Pyridoxine B6 are needed to make digestive enzymes and turn carbohydrates, fats and proteins into energy for the body, and for repair and healing of the body.  The Gluten free diet can be low in the eight essential B vitamins.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins and minerals like their gluten containing counterparts.  Supplementing with the water soluble B vitamins can ensure you're absorbing sufficient amounts of B vitamins to keep the body healthy.  Benfotiamine is a form of thiamin that helps heal the digestive tract.  Benfotiamine and Vitamin D help to reduce inflammation and calm immune responses, so if you are accidentally exposed, your autoimmune response might not be so bad. Supplementing with the B Complex vitamins is beneficial while healing.  Have you talked to a nutritionist?
    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @TerryinCO! Do you know what blood tests were ordered? Was it for like you would have done for an annual physical (CBC/CMP) or celiac disease specific antibody tests? I find it interesting that your GI doc did the endoscopy and biopsy before he/she ordered blood tests to check for celiac disease, assuming the blood tests ordered were indeed specific for celiac disease. Normally, the sequence is the other way around. Was the GI doc doing the endoscopy for some other reason in the first place? The endoscopy/biopsy is considered the gold standard for celiac diagnosis so I also find it interesting that the doc reflexively felt a need to order blood work as well.  Just a heads up in case the bloodwork ordered was not specific for celiac antibodies: Going on a gluten-free diet before the blood draw for celiac antibody testing is done will likely invalidate the testing. You probably know this already but hypothyroidism (Hashimoto's disease) is common in the celiac population and there is a statistical correlation. And then there is the weight loss. And I assume you have suffered with GERD for a long time and that is what led to the Barret's. All symptoms of celiac disease.
    • TerryinCO
      ...so lotsa questions and unknowns for me.  Gastro Doc did an endoscopy and found villi damaged so Celiac is suspect/known.  Subsequent blood work done and am awaiting evaluation from  NP or Doc. I've started gluten free diet and that's going well.  I don't have any real symptoms but have lost ~ 10# over last year or so....180 down to 170 ( I'm about 6'0 and always been on the scrawny side).  I'm 76 and up to now have not  had Celiac/gluten issues, but do take hypothyroid meds, and diagnosed/treated for Barret's Esophigus. I'm exploring the site here - looks like a lot of info available.  Talk with you later. Make yourself a great day! Terry    
    • Scott Adams
      @EricaFilpi, please tell us more about your recovery...did you need to take iron infusions or supplements? What other supplements are you taking? I'll assume you've been gluten-free since August.
×
×
  • Create New...