Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[AndreaB]

Okay, I was going to say more but I forgot everything I've just read ...

I do that too and I don't have the brain fog excuse. I have the children interuption excuse.

I'm way more withdrawn than I used to be...don't talk as much (well except to strangers in doctor's waiting rooms ).

Insurance.......sometimes more of a pain than what it's worth. I think of it like car insurance.

I have a celiac disease 57 question- I understand that it's a measurement of the "killer cells" that are specific to Lyme but let's say it comes back "normal" (above 60 right? with optimal being 200?) That may just mean that the Lyme is currently not active in your system even though you may have been exposed? Would it mean that the symptoms I'm experiencing are NOT due to Lyme even though I may have Lyme anyway?

experienced in the last 4 years. My hubby is so good but sometimes I feel bad for him.

I thought that even if it was on the low end of the range that that wasn't good. I think they like it high. Rachel......Charlie......anyone?

[Rachel--24]

Somethings must be going on with the board because I cant get to the last page (1045) and I'm on my moms computer now.

I just keep getting those "Gateway Timeout" error messages. I can get to the page only once. Once I've been on that page...I'm not allowed to go back to it.

I only read the first few posts on that page...so I dont know what I might have missed.

[dlp252]

Oh No!!! You don't think our thread is getting too big do you???!!!! No wait, that can't be it!!!! I tried getting into a thread that only had 3 posts and I got that same thing, so there must be something going on with the board software. Although, I've only had it happen on this thread and that one other really small thread.

[Rachel--24]

YAY!!!!

I got my test results back!!!!

My Dr. called me at work and he had all the test results....I had forgotten about my liver and kidney tests cuz my mind was only on the CD57.

He said my liver results were perfect!!!

Then he said my kidney results were perfect!!

Then he said my CD57 results were ALOT better than he had anticipated!!

He said he was surprised by the results...my CD57 was 78!!

Here is what the numbers indicate (taken from Scotts site)

Generally guidelines are that a score of < 20 indicates advanced or highly active Lyme disease. Scores of 20-60 are indicative of active Lyme disease where scores > 60 start to suggest that the Lyme infection is less active. A normal test result would be > 200. It is my opinion that treatment is necessary until the CD57 test score is 150 or above. The lower the result, the more likely a relapse if treatment is terminated.

So he said that the results make him very optimistic as far as how well I'm gonna do with treating the Lyme. He said it was in "normal range". I guess an "inactive" infection falls in this range.

Bev....to answer your question....he said that he would like to see my numbers get to above 100.

He seemed very happy with 78 and it made me feel as if getting the number up isnt as difficult as it would be if the infection is "active".

From the quote I posted Scott says to treat until above 150 to prevent relapse. I dont think my infection has ever been "active" so I dont know if I have to worry about relapsing as long as I get everything else under control.

According to my ART session the Babesia is more of a stressor for me than the Lyme is.

So yeah...I'm really excited about the results!!

When he told me he was surprised by my results I told him that I actually felt that they wouldnt be very low....it was just my gut feeling.

He said..."Well your gut feeling is right!!!

So now its pretty set in my head. Everything indicates that Lyme isnt a main factor contributing to my symptoms. BioSET shows yeast/molds and metals at the top...ART shows metals and fungus as the biggest stressors.

All the tests indicate that Lyme is there...but its a weaker stressor in comparison.

So it looks like mercury and candida are the main culprits...not surprising to me since this is what I felt all along. It does feel very good to have the test results "back up" what I truelly feel and also what is showing up in BioSET and ART.

Heck...Scott didnt even find Lyme at all in my first ART session....and Dr. Amy could only detect it in my head region.

I was also really happy to hear all is good with my liver and kidneys.

I had alot of these tests while I was going to Kaiser but its been two years and I was kind of concerned about the affect these toxins will have on my organs over time.

He said that even though my liver and kidneys are under a great deal of stress from the mercury and candida...these tests are only looking for "physical" problems with the organs. The tests indicate that there is no significant cell damage, disease, etc.

So yeah...he was very pleased. Mercury and other toxins can cause physical damage but that hasnt happened yet in my case. He said that impaired detoxification, liver stress from dealing with the toxins....things like that cannot be identified in the test.

The main thing is that my body seems to be dealing with everything quite well......despite all the crazy reactions to everything.

I'm so excited....and I just cant hide it....

[dlp252]

I'm so excited....and I just cant hide it....

HOORAY!!!!!!! That really is great news and you SHOULDN'T hide how excited you are!!!! Where are the Pointer Sisters when ya need them.

[Rachel--24]

So now we have

Charlie at 60 and me at 78.

We're waiting on Donna and Bev's results.

Carla and Laura...you guys gonna get a CD57 done??

I thought for sure Miamia had taken the CD57 earlier this year??

MiaMia....do you know what your results were?

[CarlaB]

I don't know ... he did a lot of testing when I was in there last time and I didn't ask for all the results. I may have already had it done. I'll ask.

I called today because I still hadn't heard back about my c diff test which I did a week ago last Friday. The stupid hospital never sent my doctor the results ... they didn't fail to send me the BILL, however. I gave the hospital's number to my doctor's office today, so hopefully I'll finally hear tomorrow.

YAY on great test results, Rachel.

[rinne]

Rachel, that is really great news. I'm very happy for you.

[NoGluGirl]

Dear Everyone,

Thank you for the compliments on my pic! It is so funny, because I actually had to take that pic myself! You can just see me, holding my camera out to myself! My mother was laughing.

I was like "This is so not what it looks like!"

Dear Rinne,

It is terrific you have a place to work! This is terrific! One more step into taifun world! I love the fact I do not have to have a physical place to worry about inventory. Inventory can make things complicated. I agree with how you feel about the government's treatment of small businesses. They do not care about us!

Dear Sherry,

I do not think I have floaters, at least. I see little things out of the corner of my eye, though. They are like blue sparkely specks. Those are not floaters, are they? Mine do not sound like others' experiences with them.

Dear Rachel,

Yay! Good test results! I am so happy for you! What a relief! It sounds like you are making headway! The chelation must be working!

Dear Bev,

I loved "My Big Fat Greek Wedding!" I also agree that John Corbett is easy on the eyes! Do you remember how the dad in the movie always says how Windex fixes everything? One of them had a blemish, and he squirts Windex on it! This was a great movie!

Dear Carla,

I was thinking I might need some B vitamins as well. However, I am not sure if I should just take a multi, or the extra vitamins and the multi. I know there are a lot of ways to go about this. You do not want to overdo it, either. That can be hard on your body as well.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

[Clark Bent as Stupor-Man]

In this pic I was holding my rabbit BO....

I actually used to have a rabbit named Bo as well when I was a kid... odd coincidence.. not exactly a typical name for a rabbit

Hi, just a quickie here as I am in a busy training week. Maybe you all know this but floaters are common with lyme disease.

yeah, I've read info about a number of vision problems associated with lyme... unfortunately I do have floaters and they've gotten worse.. I think I've had floaters for at least a number of years but I can't say when they first started because it's one of those symptoms I get and think is normal... same thing happened with muscle spasms... I thought it was something that people commonly get, didn't think much of it and would never mention it to doctors...

as for the floaters, I actually thought I was hallucinating at times, seeing things in my peripheral vision last year... I've since realized it was probably just my floaters... I was standing in my kitchen a few months ago and thought I saw a car through the window in my peripheral vision... looked over and nothing... same thing 2 seconds later... on the 3rd time looking over, I realized it was just a floater... the vast majority of the time I don't notice them but at times, they'll make me think things are in my peripheral vision...

and donna, I think light makes them more recognizable... I could usually see them when I was driving to work in the morning over a bridge with the sun coming in my car at a certain angle..

I have a celiac disease 57 question- I understand that it's a measurement of the "killer cells" that are specific to Lyme but let's say it comes back "normal" (above 60 right? with optimal being 200?) That may just mean that the Lyme is currently not active in your system even though you may have been exposed? Would it mean that the symptoms I'm experiencing are NOT due to Lyme even though I may have Lyme anyway?

I think that the CD57 is an indication to some degree of how the infection is affecting you although I don't know enough to say that there is an automatic correlation that would mean a person with a score of 150 couldn't have an active infection producing harsh symptoms... if you do have a CD57 score of say, 200, I would think that the lyme probably isn't active and affecting you enough to cause your symptoms, but I would confirm things with your doctor... if that was the case, you could also have a co-infection (ehrliciosis, babesia, etc.) that could be causing the symptoms as the CD57 has only been linked to borrelia...

Somethings must be going on with the board because I cant get to the last page (1045) and I'm on my moms computer now.

I just keep getting those "Gateway Timeout" error messages. I can get to the page only once. Once I've been on that page...I'm not allowed to go back to it.

I haven't had any problems with this board but I use firefox as my browser when I'm at home... I've used IE other places and have been fine then too... if you're getting a timeout, it could just be due to your internet connection, especially on any dial-up connections... if your mom's has a cable modem or DSL, then it's probably not the connection... I don't know what's initially causing the timeout for certain pages, but once you get a timeout for a certain link (ie. a link to page 1045), when you click back on the link to that page, it's possible it might be getting that timeout each time because it's not really establishing a new connection and just using some caching method of bringing up that link... you could try copying and pasting the link into your address bar directly and hitting "go to" or pressing enter.. might not make a difference though..

Then he said my CD57 results were ALOT better than he had anticipated!!

He said he was surprised by the results...my CD57 was 78!!

So he said that the results make him very optimistic as far as how well I'm gonna do with treating the Lyme. He said it was in "normal range". I guess an "inactive" infection falls in this range.

Bev....to answer your question....he said that he would like to see my numbers get to above 100.

He seemed very happy with 78 and it made me feel as if getting the number up isnt as difficult as it would be if the infection is "active".

From the quote I posted Scott says to treat until above 150 to prevent relapse. I dont think my infection has ever been "active" so I dont know if I have to worry about relapsing as long as I get everything else under control.

According to my ART session the Babesia is more of a stressor for me than the Lyme is.

So yeah...I'm really excited about the results!!

When he told me he was surprised by my results I told him that I actually felt that they wouldnt be very low....it was just my gut feeling.

He said..."Well your gut feeling is right!!!

I've actually had quite a few gut feelings that were dead on recently... for no real reason, I thought almonds would come up reactive when I took my 115 foods intolerance test the end of last year, and sure enough, they were one of my strongest reactions, the strongest outside of the yeasts...

it's good to hear that you were pleased with your results and that your doctor was optimistic...

as far as 78 not indicating an active infection, I'd probably be more inclined to think it was a less active infection... and one that would be easier to deal with than if your numbers were in the 30s for example... not that I'm an expert by any means as I just learned a limited amount about the CD57 recently, but I'd still think with a 78 that a lyme infection is probably active to some degree, but everything else you're doing is probably helping to keep it in check from becoming worse and maybe it's also just deciding to kick back and relax on its own ... either way, whether it's inactive or less active, it's good that it's not something that has to be a primary focus now and something that your doctor feels will be relatively easy to address..

[AndreaB]

I got my test results back!!!!

I'm so excited....and I just cant hide it....

Woohoo!!! You should be excited.

Foreward march on the mercury attack.

[AndreaB]

as far as 78 not indicating an active infection, I'd probably be more inclined to think it was a less active infection... and one that would be easier to deal with than if your numbers were in the 30s for example... not that I'm an expert by any means as I just learned a limited amount about the CD57 recently, but I'd still think with a 78 that a lyme infection is probably active to some degree, but everything else you're doing is probably helping to keep it in check from becoming worse and maybe it's also just deciding to kick back and relax on its own ... either way, whether it's inactive or less active, it's good that it's not something that has to be a primary focus now and something that your doctor feels will be relatively easy to address..

The info Rachel posted from Scott's site also says that 78 is a less active infection.

I haven't had any problems getting into any pages on here and I have Internet Explorer.

[Rachel--24]

I actually used to have a rabbit named Bo as well when I was a kid... odd coincidence.. not exactly a typical name for a rabbit

Yeah...that is an odd name for a rabbit. How funny that we both had a Bo.

and Donna...thats Bo....as in "Bo knows"...and not B.O...as in GROSS!

as far as 78 not indicating an active infection, I'd probably be more inclined to think it was a less active infection... and one that would be easier to deal with than if your numbers were in the 30s for example... not that I'm an expert by any means as I just learned a limited amount about the CD57 recently, but I'd still think with a 78 that a lyme infection is probably active to some degree, but everything else you're doing is probably helping to keep it in check from becoming worse and maybe it's also just deciding to kick back and relax on its own

Charlie....I guess "inactive" would be an inaccurate assessment....its still there....just not as active as my Dr. would have assumed based on my symptoms. I felt very strongly that the Lyme is just "kicking back"....like you said....and not really causeing me alot of problems right now.

Its good that we're doing stuff to address it so that it hopefully wont ever get the chance to become "more active".

I like "less active"....it sounds really good to me and I'm still really stoked about it.

I do think the Babesia might be causing me more problems than Lyme and I had planned on asking Scott if the co-infections have any impact at all on the CD57. Looks like you already answered my question on that....thanks.

[Clark Bent as Stupor-Man]

Yeah...that is an odd name for a rabbit. How funny that we both had a Bo.

and Donna...thats Bo....as in "Bo knows"...and not B.O...as in GROSS!

you know, I was gonna ask if your rabbit's name was picked cause of Bo Jackson since you live in Cali, where he played for the raiders... I would have picked an Eagles player if it was my choice but my family got a couple rabbits from some friends and Bo was picked for one of them due to Bo Jackson... that would be an even odder coincidence if that was the case for your rabbit.. never thought I would know another person with a rabbit named for bo jackson..

Its good that we're doing stuff to address it so that it hopefully wont ever get the chance to become "more active". I like "less active"....it sounds really good to me and I'm still really stoked about it.

good to get a test result that doesn't put you as the most reactive or symptomatic, huh?

I'm sure that everything I've done in the past 15 months with dieting and whatnot has had a positive impact on slowing down the progression of lyme and whatever else is going on and in some areas, helping me recover and get better... I think in my case, the lyme infection is definitely active to some degree as I feel it is probably a strong contributor to my neurological and vision symptoms... I however feel optimistic in regards to the fatigue aspects as I think I have countered them through diet, supplementation, and physical activity and I'm nowhere near as physically limited as some people I know are who have chronic lyme and things like fibro...

I plan to take antibiotics to start with and see how they work in resolving my headaches and neurological issues... I still am going to look into heavy metals, specifically mercury, at some point in the near future, not only due to the common interaction of both in chronic lyme patients but also because I feel that certain symptoms are more likely due to mercury toxicity such as my extreme hypoglycemia... but we'll see.. got my hands full with starting this treatment for now..

I guess it's also true that new jersey is one of the top states for lyme... since getting my lyme diagnosis, a number of people have mentioned friends or family who have or had lyme... and a lot of them know details about lyme disease such as the difference between catching it in the first 2 weeks or after a while undiagnosed, the lyme infection being inactive for a while, etc.

[Rachel--24]

you know, I was gonna ask if your rabbit's name was picked cause of Bo Jackson since you live in Cali, where he played for the raiders...

Actually...I think thats most likely where "Bo" came from but its my ex who picked the name so I cant say for sure. I picked the female rabbits name....Casper..cuz she was all white.

I'm not much of a football fan...its all about baseball. I'm a Giants fan. Now that I think about it..I shoulda named my rabbit "Snow"...after J.T. Snow...who was my favorite player.

good to get a test result that doesn't put you as the most reactive or symptomatic, huh?

For sure!!! Dont know if you can tell but I'm really excited about it!!

I know the test isnt an exact science...theres still more to be learned but it does seem to correlate. I was reading on LymeNet and alot of people disregard the test because...for example....they may test well over 150 and still feel like road kill. There are some who say they test very low and yet feel like they've improved quite a bit.

My thoughts are that this doesnt necessarily negate the test. It could be that those with high CD57 but still having ongoing symptoms...need to address co-infections, mercury, or something else. Alot of people only focus on Lyme and forget that co-infections can cause just as many symptoms.

Also...those with low CD57 but feel as if they've improved quite a bit...it could be that these people will relapse fairly quickly if they stop treatment. The improvement in symptoms doesnt necessarily mean the immune system is fully capable of taking over. Also if they've addressed other infections along with Lyme...they may feel significantly better having killed off some bugs...but its possible they still havent knocked out Lyme.

These are just my thoughts....the jury is still out on the CD57...some LLMDS love this test and others totally dismiss it.

All I know is I feel that I've listened to my body for many months now... I would have been stunned and even a little skeptical had my number been extremely low. I just dont feel like Lyme is a "major player".....78 seems right on target for me.

Most of the results I saw posted on LymeNET were extremely low...(under 10) and even 0!

I did see one person with an 80...and a couple people with numbers well over 200...even one above 300....and they said they have not improved. I'm thinking these people have other issues to address and maybe Lyme isnt their main concern...hence lack of improvement during treatment.

I however feel optimistic in regards to the fatigue aspects as I think I have countered them through diet, supplementation, and physical activity and I'm nowhere near as physically limited as some people I know are who have chronic lyme and things like fibro...

Yup...I feel the same. I used to have debilitating fatigue and fibro symptoms as well. These cleared up tremendously with lifestyle changes....especially diet but also strict chemical avoidance.

The fact that my energy is pretty decent (I would have no problem playing sports right now) and I have almost no joint pain (compared to 2 years ago)....really suggested to me that Lyme isnt the main issue here.

I wonder about its role in my thyroid disease though.

I know my thyroid would only really get out of control if I was under a great deal of stress. It makes me wonder if the stress was interfering with my immune systems ability to keep the infection under control....so my immune system (being temporarily supressed) would rebound very agressively causing autoimmune attacks on my thyroid in the process.

[Rachel--24]

Donna....GOOD LUCK tomorrow!!

I'll be anxiously waiting for your post....I hope its all good news!!

[Rachel--24]

Donna....OMG....I just saw your pic of your Dads yard!!! At first glance I thought it was MY yard!!

Thats how my yard looks....except different trees and plants. Your dads looks really nice...I used to have the flowery ground covering along the border...just like in your pic. It got to be too much work to maintain though...there was a 2 year period where I totally let everything go because I just got too sick and too depressed.

I knew NOTHING about plants, shrubs and trees when I picked stuff out. I ended up making changes when things started growing and I'd find out that I didnt like something.

I changed the tree in my front yard 3 times now!!

Those are BIG trees and its not easy pulling them out once they've grown for a couple years....but I'm very stubborn...if I want it out...its definately coming out...one way or another.

Some things died but for the most part I did pretty well considering my lack of knowlege on this stuff. I'll put up more picks next weekend.

In totally love your dads yard.

[Rachel--24]

I told my sweetie that I was going to become a tycoon and he said, "don't you mean taifun?"

Rinne...I'm really proud of you for your determination and obvious success with the "Rinne Bar" project.

Its so exciting that you're making this dream a reality and I just love that your having a great time doing it....your posts are getting more and more upbeat with each day that passes.

I just wanna say again how happy I am that you're back. Rachelville missed you.

[AndreaB]

I just wanna say again how happy I am that you're back. Rachelville missed you.

I just want to add that I agree.

Now if we could only get Robbin back here more frequently.

Donna,

I don't remember if I commented on your dad's yard......Beautiful!!!

I showed Mitch and was going to show him Rachel's yard but forgot she'd changed the picture.

[NoGluGirl]

Dear Rachel,

I thought that Donna's pic was your yard, too! They look so much alike. They are both so beautiful! I could just imagine the wonderful smell of flowers. We have an Iris growing in the back of our house. Its blooms are too heavy, and it has tipped over! It has a wonderful scent to it!

Regarding bunnies, we used to have a cinnamon colored one named Thumper. She lived quite some time. She died when she was ten. Thumper had quite the temper! She used to have a metal food bowl. Rabbits for the most part are not patient, and she almost broke the side of the glass cage she was in banging it from side to side! She also knew how to use the litterbox like Charlie's rabbit.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl aka Jin

[jerseyangel]

Too funny--I thought Donna's dad's yard was Rachel's too when I first saw it! Glad I'm not the only one

Rachel--Yippee on the test results!!!! You should be excited--and of course your gut feeling was correct. You are so in tune with your body. Great news!

Rinne--Tycoon, taifun--whatever you call it, you're gonna be one for sure. Have I told you how excited I am for you???

A big happy good morning to everyone!

[miamia]

So now we have

Charlie at 60 and me at 78.

We're waiting on Donna and Bev's results.

Carla and Laura...you guys gonna get a CD57 done??

I thought for sure Miamia had taken the CD57 earlier this year??

MiaMia....do you know what your results were?

Rachel-

so glad you got all your test results back and you are pleased with them. Great news on the kidney and liver!!!

I did have the C D 57 done I can't find the results I think there at my moms so I will post my results later today.

I am in a not good place right noww I ate something for lunh yesturday that I had a major reaction to and I am really sick still. I was hoping I would wake up ok but that is not the case I feel really awful. This is going to be a really long day. The horrible thing is I think it was rice cakes I am reacting to. I hate those things !!!

Miamia

[CarlaB]

I'm thinking these people have other issues to address and maybe Lyme isnt their main concern...hence lack of improvement during treatment.

I completely agree. Heavy metals and candida come to mind. They can both cause similar symptoms and you would think you are not getting better from the Lyme.

Yup...I feel the same. I used to have debilitating fatigue and fibro symptoms as well. These cleared up tremendously with lifestyle changes....especially diet but also strict chemical avoidance.

The fact that my energy is pretty decent (I would have no problem playing sports right now) and I have almost no joint pain (compared to 2 years ago)....really suggested to me that Lyme isnt the main issue here.

I think when we give our bodies the tools to heal, it will. This is how it was going for me for years. Looking back, I realize I had some symptoms all along, but Lyme and I learned how to coexist without bothering each other too much. That was until I got another infection and needed antibiotics ... I never recovered from that. Antibiotics made me sick ... now they're making me better ... how ironic!

I wonder about its role in my thyroid disease though.

I know my thyroid would only really get out of control if I was under a great deal of stress. It makes me wonder if the stress was interfering with my immune systems ability to keep the infection under control....so my immune system (being temporarily supressed) would rebound very agressively causing autoimmune attacks on my thyroid in the process.

Sounds plausible. I feel that I've had thyroid problems, too. I took thryoid supplements that had glandular thyroid for years because of low basal temperatures. I had more energy and higher temps. when I took it.

After doing the salt/c treatment for just a couple months, I was able to stop taking the thyroid and my basal temps are still high. They run 98 degrees before the mid-month shift, and 98.5 afterward. This morning it was 98.9.

I really believe Lyme goes after the thyroid. I also know from experience that stress always aggravated my symptoms.

Sorry you're feeling bad Mia ... and over a rice cake! Talk about NOT worth it!

[dlp252]

as for the floaters, I actually thought I was hallucinating at times, seeing things in my peripheral vision last year... I've since realized it was probably just my floaters... I was standing in my kitchen a few months ago and thought I saw a car through the window in my peripheral vision... looked over and nothing... same thing 2 seconds later... on the 3rd time looking over, I realized it was just a floater... the vast majority of the time I don't notice them but at times, they'll make me think things are in my peripheral vision...

Yeah, I'm always turning my head cuz I think I see something and nothing is there, lol. Thought it was just me and my crazy body.

and Donna...thats Bo....as in "Bo knows"...and not B.O...as in GROSS!

I don't know...I thought B-O was cute too!

Donna....GOOD LUCK tomorrow!!

I'll be anxiously waiting for your post....I hope its all good news!!

OMGosh...I woke up at 1:30 and couldn't get back to sleep...well, dozed off around 3:30 or so, and had strange dreams, lol. I think one of them involved doctors.

Donna....OMG....I just saw your pic of your Dads yard!!! At first glance I thought it was MY yard!!

See! That's exactly what I thought when you put up your picture! My whole family are great gardeners...I did NOT get any of THOSE genes, lol. I'm amazed my dad's plant is still alive after 11 years. Every time my dad went on vacation, I'd have to look after his yard...nearly gave him a heart attack every time.

Its so exciting that you're making this dream a reality and I just love that your having a great time doing it....your posts are getting more and more upbeat with each day that passes.

I just wanna say again how happy I am that you're back. Rachelville missed you.

Yes, DITTO!!

Regarding bunnies, we used to have a cinnamon colored one named Thumper. She lived quite some time. She died when she was ten. Thumper had quite the temper! She used to have a metal food bowl. Rabbits for the most part are not patient, and she almost broke the side of the glass cage she was in banging it from side to side! She also knew how to use the litterbox like Charlie's rabbit.

I forgot I had a bunny when I was around 11-12. We didn't have it long because I was not responsible back then and my parents ended up having to care for it, lol. He was all black and was named Thunder!

A big happy good morning to everyone!

And the same to you!!

I am in a not good place right noww I ate something for lunh yesturday that I had a major reaction to and I am really sick still. I was hoping I would wake up ok but that is not the case I feel really awful. This is going to be a really long day. The horrible thing is I think it was rice cakes I am reacting to. I hate those things !!!

Oh gosh Mia, I'm so sorry...stupid rice cakes! If I feel bad, at least I want it to be from something really tasty.

[dlp252]

<---new avatar...me at the top of a pyramid in Tikal, Guatemala! The guy in the picture is one of the two friends I went with...we went for another friend's wedding.

I completely agree. Heavy Sounds plausible. I feel that I've had thyroid problems, too. I took thryoid supplements that had glandular thyroid for years because of low basal temperatures. I had more energy and higher temps. when I took it.

After doing the salt/c treatment for just a couple months, I was able to stop taking the thyroid and my basal temps are still high. They run 98 degrees before the mid-month shift, and 98.5 afterward. This morning it was 98.9.

I really believe Lyme goes after the thyroid. I also know from experience that stress always aggravated my symptoms.

Yes, Scott said during ART that Lyme was my primary concern and it was affecting my thyroid!