Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[Clark Bent as Stupor-Man]

Charlie....you can have CHIPS??

Well you are one very lucky guy!! I cant have them...I think its mailnly an issue of mold. Trust me...I've tried all kinds but they definately make me more toxic.

Corn chips are worse than potato chips but they both mess me up pretty good. It might also be because I cant do anything in moderation. I end up racheling the whole bag in one sitting.

I might be OK if I just ate like 2 chips....but who can do that??!!

and what would be the point??

Oh...chips are also totally forbidden with regards to candida....so yeah...I figure if I gotta ditch my ice cream I better not start racheling chips instead. I think the ice cream is actually alot better for me. Mold affects me more than anything else....except for things like aspartame or MSG.

I think we have a skewed definition of lucky on this thread... somehow, I'm guessing most of my friends wouldn't consider being able to eat a bag of plain potato chips that lucky ... but I don't hesitate to mention I can eat the Kettle chips after I start listing the few foods I do eat and I start getting the "that's all you can eat?" look...

I know the chips aren't good for my candida, but I eat them at times anyway... I didn't eat them the first couple months of this year as I was extremely strict but started eating them again the past 2 or 3 months... we have sort of a love-hate relationship... I'll eat from one bag spread out over a week and I'll be mostly alright... then I'll get another seemingly identical bag and have some issues though nothing unmanageable or lasting for days like other rxns... then I might wait a week or 2 before trying them again

I think I sometimes get worse leg pain the next day when I eat the chips, but with the minocycline killing my balance and making it feel like I'm in 10x normal gravity, I don't think I would even notice the difference... so needless to say, I'm going through my share of potato chips recently...

it's funny too because I wouldn't at all be surprised if I had major issues with mold as well... the 2 yeasts came up as my worse rxns on the 115 foods test and I tested reactive to most mold foods... and when I was a kid and had the allergy skin testing done, I think mold was my worst, at least one of the worst...

[Rachel--24]

My Birthday is over...I officially turned 36 a few hours ago...at 7:13.

Yeah...getting old is tiring...I'm off to bed now.

[rinne]

am I the only person on this thread who eats potato chips? ......

They were one of the foods I ate for a while after going gluten and dairy free but testing showed I was reacting to nightshades and so I cut them out. I substitute roasted sweet potatoes but it is a different experience. I did eat a little real potato recently and didn't like the taste at all, it makes me think I shouldn't eat them and really it is the salt and the grease that I love.

...

and a very much loved resident goofball. :wub:

I'll second that.

[AndreaB]

How do you get diagnosed with having for example to much heavy metal in your body?

My doctor does the hair analysis along with the challenge that Rachel mentioned. He likes to look at both of them. I had a hair analysis done a little over a year ago and was low on mercury. He thinks mercury is a problem with me and looking at two of my children I'd have to agree.

Jenny,

If you'd be willing I'd highly suggest that you track down a reputable, knowledgeable LLMD in AK or come on down to the contiguous states once you can get the money together for testing (sounds like you're like me and money is on the scarce side). A good LLMD will test you for pretty much everything under the sun......not just lyme. Lyme is still a possibility if you've been bit twice. I think Carla, Rachel and Donna have been tested for lyme, mercury/metals, molds, parasites, yeast, vitamin/minerals......am I missing anything gals?

A simple thing you could do is the salt/vit C. Someone will have to give details on that though.....we've just talked about it recently (within the last week or two). I don't remember the quantities of either.

Corn chips are worse than potato chips but they both mess me up pretty good. It might also be because I cant do anything in moderation. I end up racheling the whole bag in one sitting.

I might be OK if I just ate like 2 chips....but who can do that??!!

and what would be the point??

I rachel a whole bag too. Is anything made that you can only have 2 of? Not in my book!

[jerseyangel]

Jenny!!!

I'm really glad you jumped in

Everyone--

Good morning! I'm still itchy This is the reaction from you-know-where!

[happygirl]

[quote name='AndreaB' date='May 31 2007, 02:26 AM' post='309724'

I think Carla, Rachel and Donna have been tested for lyme, mercury/metals, molds, parasites, yeast, vitamin/minerals......am I missing anything gals?

[Rachel--24]

A good LLMD will test you for pretty much everything under the sun......not just lyme. Lyme is still a possibility if you've been bit twice. I think Carla, Rachel and Donna have been tested for lyme, mercury/metals, molds, parasites, yeast, vitamin/minerals......am I missing anything gals?

Hmmm...my LLMD has tested me for

Lyme

co-infections

viruses (EBV, HHV6, etc)

vit/minerals

liver/kidney

I've had alot of stool and blood testing for bacteria even before going to the LLMD.

Anna had me tested for antibodies of the things affecting function of the gut. I had tested extremely high for yeast and was a little high for bacteria and food proteins.

I havent "officially" been tested for the mercury....Dr. doesnt feel its safe to go there yet.

A simple thing you could do is the salt/vit C.

I wouldnt really consider anything to be simple or 100% safe. I've read alot of things about salt/c on LymeNET...both positive and negative.

Some people do get worse and create other problems from doing salt/c. Its not for everyone....I guess some people cant handle it. I decided not to try it at this point...maybe later.

What works for one person can be harmful to the next. This is why you cant follow one protocol for everyone.....people respond differently.

Dr. Klinghardt has some of his patients doing salt/c.....but only if they test ok for it in ART....and alot of people dont. Things also change quite frequently in the body so salt/c might be ok one month and totally NOT ok the next....just like anything else. I think Dr. K. has people take it for a couple weeks on...then a week off....something to that effect. He doesnt have them continually doing salt/c without breaks.

There are some threads on Lyme NET about this. Apparantly the site that promotes salt/c is somewhat controversial and is recommending doses too high for some people to handle and disregarding the cases where people suffer ill effects.

I dont know enough about it to take any side on it...I just know that it doesnt seem to be something that everyone tests ok for in ART.

[rinne]

Jenny,

A simple place to start is with regular blood tests to see how your Vitamin levels are, conventional doctors routinely check Vitamin B and D levels and either of those levels being low is an indication of problems.

The trick is that you have to learn to understand what the results mean, you can't count on doctors to read the tests or to understand them if they do read them.

A doctor, here in Canada, is given your results on a sheet with a range of acceptable levels, the sheet I saw said that for B 12 anything between 178 and 788 or so is fine for B12 but in fact anything lower than 500 should be a red flag that you need to up your Bs.

The deficiency can be caused by malabsorption and there are neurological problems associated with low B levels, also they are making connections between serious illness and Vitamin D deficiency. If you have malabsorption, if you are having bowel movements and your food is not digested, then that is contributing to your being malnourished.

Perhaps a doctor already has these results and you could just pick them up, if you post them here we can tell you what we think. Sorry to bore everyone else who has heard my Vitamin B story but my levels were at 228 by the time I checked, I was very ill and nearly unable to eat for the burning in my stomach, I was also starting to walk like I was drunk when I wasn't, and the doctor prescribed Oma-prazole. I learned that Oma-prazole stops all absorption of Vitamin B and that some of my symptoms could be a result of the deficiency. I fired that doctor and took charge of myself.

I am a very bad patient but slowly I am getting better. I no longer have fire from one end of my digestive tract to the other, I've gained back ten pounds I really needed to and I'm not walking like a drunk woman anymore.

[Mtndog]

rachel- Glad your birthday was good and your wish came true!!!!!!!!!!!

Andrea- that horse sounds beautiful and now you get to keep him

crala- that grapefruit tree story is wild! wow!

Jin- The Twister Sisters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: MUCH better than Twisted Sister!

Susan- Diarrhea Diagnosticians! :lol: :lol: :lol: we've got type A: skunky TypeB: Rotten Egg/sulfur Type C: EXPLOSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!

Jenny- Welcome! Your story sounds so much like mine it's crazy! Mine started in 2003 with the same symptoms you listed: horrible nausea, stomach aches, chronic fatigue, diarrhea and vomiting. i was sleeping like 12 hours at night and 4 hour afternoon naps. I chocked it up to grief (my mom had just passed away) and IBS. Got worse- lost tons of weight and now, like you I can't eat gluten, dairy or legumes. I JUST got diagnosed with Lyme and I never saw a tick bite so you could very well have it. Or candida or both.

They tested me for EVERYTHING- HIV, lymphoma, tuberculosis, Chrohn's colitis the list goes on. Everything was negative (except i have a celiac gene) so I finally said, i'm getting tested for Lyme. Set up an appt with a Lyme Literate MD in NH and came back positive.

Did you get bit in Sweden, Alaska or somewhere else?

regardless, welcom! Do not go back... Everyone here will be happy to answer your questions. Tthe more the merrier! It's a nice place to be!

[CarlaB]

am I the only person on this thread who eats potato chips? I see chips mentioned every now and then and almost always in a negative light...

my diet for the past couple months has literally been meats and veggies, with potato chips as my "cheat" food... I only eat Kettles plain chips (only ingredients are potatoes, sunflower/safflower oil, and salt) and it seems to be somewhat hit or miss from one bag to the next as to how I feel afterwards... while I've had some reactions I'd link to either a cc issue or just racheling the chips for a few days, the chips usually aren't much of an issue for me and I'm as sensitive as just about anyone with food intolerances...

what's so bad about potato chips.. is it due to a mold issue? additives/ingredients used for most brands? cc issues?... my only real concern is from a candida or cc standpoint (as Kettle has been noted by some to have these issues in the past though I think a recent post said that their chips dated as of August of this year are made in a separate facility).. just curious about this after seeing some different replies (not specifically this one, just spurred my memory) mentioning potato chips...

Last time I got so thin I used to carry bags of Ruffles with me everywhere I went. I also ate a lot of ice cream.

Chips are bad from a general health standpoint ... but for me they had a lot of fat and calories, which I needed. They also are a simple carb, so they can feed candida. I always eat a protein with a carb, so chips kind of feel by the wayside. I have had corn chips dipped in cheese though.

Maybe I should go back to eating chips again. Since I cut out sugar and alcohol in Jan. (Dec. for the alcohol), I've lost 7 pounds.

I don't have intolerances like everyone else, but sometimes NOTHING sits right with me. Lately I've been nauseous and have gone straight to the bathroom (can't quite call it 'd') every time I've eaten. I can't eat much in a sitting. It would be nice to be able to use Haagen Dazs or a nice high-calorie frapp to be able to keep the weight on. That never sits wrong in my belly!

[CarlaB]

Thanks for the welcome everyone!

Well...hhmmm..lets seee..

I got really sick in 2003 with nausea, stomach aches, chronic fatigue, memory problems (couldn't remember my own number if someone asked), irregular heart beat, diarrhea and freaky 24/7 heartburn that didn't get better on any medications (used to give me sores in my throat).

I was tested for gluten in 1996 (blood test-not sure which one or how many they took, I was very new to all of this then) and also lactose. Both came up negative. I was tested because I had time periods when I got nauseous and some diarrhea.

Well, I was told I had IBS and that it would go away on its own, and it actually did. I had problems with my stomach off and on after that and I remember my stomach was always sensitive since I was a kid. Mom told me I didn't wanna gain weight as an infant and I always ate bad.

Anyways...Saw like 9 doctors. Most of them in Sweden and they all just told me it was IBS, worry and some even told me I had no problems because the medication (at that time Nexium) would take care of it. I had a gastroscopi done and it didn't show anything.

They never checked my intestinal lining, just the ventricle/stomach.

Then in the US they gave me Protonix and that helped a bit better. I often had stomach aches, diarrhea, irregular heart beat and I was constantly tired. I felt like a pile of garbage.. Last spring I got so tired and fatigued that I actually thought I was gonna die. I slept a whole night and felt like I hadn't slept in days.

I was nauseas constantly and it was very hard to eat anything. My husband started reading about Gluten Intolerance online and I decided to try. I felt slight better after a bit and I went to the doctor for blood test again. I hadn't had gluten (as much as I knew by that time) in 3 weeks and they tests came out negative.

Still I had an improvement with my heart burn so I stayed with the diet and found this place. I heard of EnteroLab here and decided to try it. It came back positive on gluten and casein. I had one Celiac gene and one gluten intolerance one.

(I guess I should also mention that my aunt has a bunch of problems with her stomach and my grandmother died because of problems with her stomach. She had TONS of surgery because of diverticulitis, had stomi at one point and many times had ulcers. In the end, when she was 77, she had to go to the ER every 2 weeks because of her stomach and the last time they did surgery the intestines where so bad off that she dies 3 weeks after. They didn't work anymore.)

Okay, so I stopped with casein in October when I got the test results. Got a bit more energetic but still had heartburn and attacks of fatigue during the days sometimes. I then stopped with soy (I had a 9>10 on it from EnteroLab) and eventually all Legumes when they gave me stomach aches and heart burn.

Now, I have TONS more energy and kinda feel I am "the old jenny" a little bit, but I still have a bloated stomach every week, seems to not be able to handle much foods at all. I seem to be okay on fresh veggies, but far from all.

Then add on that I am allergic to peach, apple, plums, carrots, pears, cherries, strawberries and nuts... I feel nasty eating Avocado and any more than tiny amounts of oil (probably why I can't handle avocado) makes me sick. I seem to be super sensitive to trace amounts of for example casein.

They gave me BCP this spring (and I ate them for a month only) and they had a lactose in them that is supposed to be more or less casein free, well it made me very sick. I stopped with the BCP because they made my migraine with aura much worse (had 4 in a weekend) and I later found out that one isn't supposed to eat hormones if one has migraine with aura. Nobody ever asked.

So bloating, my stomach gets very easily upset, easily nauseas (but that has gotten much better), seem to have a lot of gas too off and on. I can't seem to handle egg, corn seems iffy too (my Protonix has corn in it I noticed..)..

I dunno, I just wish I had a more "steady" time. I get sick every month. I do live in a home that has gluten and casein everywhere (with my husbands family-we have had money problems because of my health among other things, things are starting to look up now though).. I seem to get sick even if

I do everything right. I follow all suggestions and I never go to restaurants.

I started drinking bottled water a couple of months ago, but I heard from that doctor that talks about chemical sensitivities on DR Fine's DVD that the bottles are supposed to be glass instead of plastic.

The water picks up some plastic stuff from them that aren't good.

I am all into organic stuff. Most veggies and fruits that I buy is organic. I hate eating medications and I try to leave as "clean" as possible. I am sensitive to perfume/fragrance and haven't used perfume in years. I get a rash from fabric softener sheets.

I also itch really bad from chemical sun blockers... so I know I am the sensitive type. I usually also react odd to medications. Not all but a lot of them. Small doses of Ibuprofen makes me absolutely beat.

I can hardly walk up stairs. There are some other medications that I don't handle well either. I seem to get a lot of side effects. (also I haven't been able to eat Vitamins so far-used to before this all started)

Lyme disease is what you can get from Tics right? I have been bitten twice, but it was a looong time ago and it never got red or anything. I removed them very fast.

I don't have any amalgam in my mouth (if that is of interest)...Hmm.. I am sure I have forgotten stuff.

Maybe someone has some ideas. Take a stab at it!

(..and if you think my English is a little different that's because I am Swedish. Moved to the USA the first time 1999 when I married my American husband.)

Man, this got long... I remember having tons of canker sores too, those I haven't had in a long time now.

Sorry, I had to break this up so I can read it. Large blocks of information are impossible for me to read ... I normally just skip those posts, but I wanted to read this.

[CarlaB]

I might be OK if I just ate like 2 chips....but who can do that??!!

and what would be the point??

Umm, I can. Remember last summer? I wasn't supposed to have sugar, so I ate 1/4 of a gluten free donut every Sunday?

[CarlaB]

Jenny,

My hair analysis showed that I was high for mercury and aluminum.

My heavy metal challenge urine test showed that mercury was slightly elevated but lead was a problem.

The way I read that is, I am detoxing the mercury and aluminum, thus it shows up in my hair. I heard that is the reason Brittany Spears shaved her head ... so they couldn't test her hair for drugs for the custody issue ... don't know if it's true, but it makes sense.

The challenge showed the metals I was hanging onto. Lead didn't show up in my hair because I'm holding onto it and not detoxing. So, I think the better test is the urine test.

I don't think you should write off the possibility of Lyme. You also sound a lot like me. I had this for 35 years with varying levels of symptoms ... usually just enough symptoms to make me seem like a hypochondriac. Then when I dropped 15 pounds in four months for no reason whatsoever, it was obvious something WAS wrong.

I feel better off gluten. It helped some, but I didn't get completely better. I had tick bites 1972-1975. The first time I got sick from this at all was due to stress in 1982. It went into remission until 1986, then again until 1991. In 1991 I had my amalgams out and went on an anti-candida diet. Went into remission again until 2003.

When in remission I would have some symptoms, but not any more than most people seem to have. Seems everyone has something wrong.

I never bounced back from the 2003 flare up. My first impression about Lyme was that it didn't fit me at all, not my symptoms. Then hanging around this thread and reading about Rinne and Rachel, I realized it was most likely what I had. I tested positive on the Western Blot and now see an LLMD for treatment.

In addition to what everyone else has been tested for, I was also tested for cortisol levels and thyroid. I tend toward iron deficiency anemia because of my babesia coinfection. I would bet that if you have Lyme, you also have babs ... it's what causes the heart symptoms.

I also get "air hunger" and night sweats from the babs.

I also have a family history of stomach ailments. I think that is why the Lyme hits my GI tract the hardest.

I would say, whatever is wrong, toxicity is an issue. The memory problems (a Lyme symptom, btw) and many of the other issues show your body is toxic from something. For me, it's Lyme and some heavy metals.

Bev, it was a wild story. The grapefruit tree was not as tall as the house or the other trees in the area ... I remembered what I had done as soon as I saw the tree lying on the ground! With two houses getting struck by lightening around the time we sold them, a friend recently told me, "Remind me never to buy a house from you!"

Salt/c helped me some. On my last CBC, my sodium level was barely within range .. I would guess that was why the salt/c helped so much. Maybe I need more of those potato chips!

[DingoGirl]

ROFLMAO

OMG Susan...you kill me!!

Ummm....I dont think I'm part of the "DD" team.

I dont have alot of experience in this area....hence...the need for mention of "enemas" in Rachelville.

I think explosive "D" would probably eliminate the need for ummm..."assistance" of toxin removal.

I wonder what kind of toxins would cause explosive diarrhea comparable to SKUNK??!! Is this a gluten thing for you Susan??

I do tell a couple people about my bm's, enemas, etc...I dont know that they are thrilled to be knowing all this but they do listen....they probably figure they have no choice.

the part about having no choice when we tell our non-Celiac friends - I know, they just listen and sort of roll their eyes, don't they?

Yes, the glutened D really does smell like skunk......am I the only one that has this? It is unbelievable. I cannot be in public on a day of glutened D, would not want to inflict this on others. But you know something, that was also a little bit of the same smell as the c. diff. D - sorry - - TMI - (is there such a thing as TMI on this thread? )

Rachel I do still consider you a Diarrhea Diagnostician. (have to say, I did crack myself up when I came up wtih that one)

I might be OK if I just ate like 2 chips....but who can do that??!!

and what would be the point??

Indeed, the point of that......

I think we have a skewed definition of lucky on this thread... somehow, I'm guessing most of my friends wouldn't consider being able to eat a bag of plain potato chips that lucky

Umm, I can. Remember last summer? I wasn't supposed to have sugar, so I ate 1/4 of a gluten free donut every Sunday?

I do remember, and it was astonishing.....

Morning all!

[rinne]

Umm, I can. Remember last summer? I wasn't supposed to have sugar, so I ate 1/4 of a gluten free donut every Sunday?

Aha! A new Rachelville expression could be, "did you carla it?" as in very mindfully and with great self-discipline deprived yourself of 3/4 of a donut every week.

Salt really agreed with me, when I first started taking it I felt like my body just went YES YES YES and my energy levels really went up. At that point it didn't taste particularly salty to me but after four months it started to taste very salty and that was the point I cut back. Good salt, like the Himalayan, is very high in minerals, nutritionally our food supply no longer has the same value it once did and I think a lack of minerals is a problem for many. Also, that if we pay close attention to our bodies they will let us know if something is working or not, this may not be always true because sometimes when detoxing we do feel worse but generally speaking.....

[DingoGirl]

Aha! A new Rachelville expression could be, "did you carla it?" as in very mindfully and with great self-discipline deprived yourself of 3/4 of a donut every week.

I doubt you will ever hear me using this new Rville word......"I Carla'd some nuggets" - - -don't think so - - -

[AndreaB]

My hair analysis showed that I was high for mercury and aluminum.

My heavy metal challenge urine test showed that mercury was slightly elevated but lead was a problem.

The way I read that is, I am detoxing the mercury and aluminum, thus it shows up in my hair.

The challenge showed the metals I was hanging onto. Lead didn't show up in my hair because I'm holding onto it and not detoxing. So, I think the better test is the urine test.

I see the hair analysis as either a metal you are not detoxing or something you have absolutely no problems with. The urine challenge would clear up what metals were the problem.

For me to have low mercury in my hair with a mouth full of amalgams tells me I'm not excreting much.

I think I forgot to comment on the grapefruit tree. That's a great story!

[AndreaB]

(is there such a thing as TMI on this thread? )

I'm thinking, not.

Aha! A new Rachelville expression could be, "did you carla it?" as in very mindfully and with great self-discipline deprived yourself of 3/4 of a donut every week.

I doubt you will ever hear me using this new Rville word......"I Carla'd some nuggets" - - -don't think so - - -

[CarlaB]

Aha! A new Rachelville expression could be, "did you carla it?" as in very mindfully and with great self-discipline deprived yourself of 3/4 of a donut every week.

Triticus Toxicum (sp?) coined that expression last summer, but it didn't get used as frequently as Racheling!

The salt really agreed with me, too. I craved it.

[rinne]

Triticus Toxicum (sp?) coined that expression last summer, but it didn't get used as frequently as Racheling!

The salt really agreed with me, too. I craved it.

How did I miss that?

I've started back on salt, just a half teaspoon a day and I've noticed that the night sweats are less when I take it. I am getting tired of them.

I wonder how Richard is doing, I really enjoyed his humor.

[CarlaB]

I've started back on salt, just a half teaspoon a day and I've noticed that the night sweats are less when I take it. I am getting tired of them.

I freely salt my food ... I'm sure that I get a half teaspoon a day from that. I know I need salt. If I've sweat a lot or feel dehydrated, I'll sprinkle some in my water.

[dlp252]

I had a dream.

I tend to have very strange dreams which incorporate a whole bunch of things that aren't related.

Last night it was about Rachel, my PT guy and an ex-coworker.

There was a whole group of us that went to a foreign country...don't know where or why by the way, but I seem to think it was for a wedding. Somehow we lost Rachel. The PT guy said she was okay and that he and I should just continue on. I was concerned and wanted to know where Rachel was.

Then I started thinking...she'd better not be at home eating ice cream or I will be very mad at you (the PT guy, for not telling me).

We missed our plane because I was looking for Rachel...then I saw my ex-co-worker walking through the airport...she didn't know anything about Rachel.

Now, most of my dreams are sagas and I can't figure out how any of the pieces got there, but I can almost figure this one out. It was Rachel's big day...we went to Laura and Erics wedding ... I met up with my ex-coworker yesterday who mentioned the ex-co-worker in my dream... The PT guy...well he was just very sorry yesterday and felt very bad that he had to cancel the massage...

Wow, this is a long thread.. I tried to read some of it but it is just too long to get a understanding of it..

Welcome!!! I'm a little late to the party...have to go to bed early. I used Enterolab as well, and going gluten/casein free did help me, but still had lingering problems...many of which you listed in your second post. They just didn't clear up. I happened upon this thread somewhere around page 7 I think, and just joined in to try to figure out what the heck else could be wrong.

I tried an elimination diet, but could never feel well on it because the supposedly "safe" foods were not safe for me. I reacted to nearly all of them. In the end, I turned to some more integrated practitioners and a really good LLMD all of whom have had their part in getting to the bottom of things. My signature lists the many diagnosis that I've had...the lastest is lyme (by-the-way, I do not remember every being bit nor having a rash, and I live in California, which DOES have lyme, but is not necessarily known as a hotbed of tick activity), mold toxicity, vitamin/mineral/element imbalances, candida...any one of those by itself and most certainly together can cause almost all of my symptoms.

Sorry for laughing ... I'm laughing at the relationship we all have ... excuse me again, it's just so funny!! I don't have ANY other friends I would tell that I have diarrhea ... or that I've used an enema!!!

Yes, indeed! We have a really great relationship here...I forget myself every now and then and say to one of my friends something about my D and they just look at me like Wow, sorry the sauna is out of order!

Sorry you did not get to paint the toenails today! Mine look pretty good. I really like this pink. It is so pretty!

Maybe the D has to do with the gallbladder. That is the first thing that comes to mind. Everytime I ate, it came right back out when I had mine in.

Yep, I think galbladder is about the only thing that hasn't been tested (okay I exaggerate, lol). I may ask about that. Today should be the toenail day...I just realized that I don't have to go to choir practice tonight (okay, more accurately my small group isn't meeting, so I'm just not going to GO to choir)...so I can just relax and paint my nails.

[dlp252]

and part 2

am I the only person on this thread who eats potato chips? I see chips mentioned every now and then and almost always in a negative light...

You must have missed my chip chronicles a few pages back. I NEVER eat chips and lately that is what I am craving. Fortunately, at work they give us free snacks...and one of the ones they have ocassionally is the small bags of chips. I snag a bag or two when I see them, and yes, I eat them. Very, very bad for me...react every time but can't stop myself.

I think explosive "D" would probably eliminate the need for ummm..."assistance" of toxin removal.

This is what I was saying to Dr. Carrie yesterday, lol...at least I know I'm not holding on to toxins. She agreed.

How do you get diagnosed with having for example to much heavy metal in your body?

I was sort of diagnosed. My doctor (the same one Rachel sees) is almost certain that I have a metals issue, but that I am not excreting them. So far I've only been tested by hair analysis, and since I dye my hair, they had to use the unmentionable hair, which is not quite as accurate as head hair. So, somewhere down the line I will have the urine challenge that Rachel spoke of. My doctor doesn't feel my pathways and detox mechanisms are working up to par yet, so we're working on that first.

There are a couple ways...either hair analysis...or provoked urine test. Its a "challenge" test where you take a pharmaceutical chelator (chelators bind with metals and pull them out of tissue and cells to be excreted) and the urine is evalutated for high levels of metals.

I've had hair analysis a few years ago but it showed nothing with regards to mercury. My mercury levels were low. The problem with that is that I wasnt excreting any mercury...I wasnt detoxing it at all...its stored in my body and therefore did not show up in hair analysis. When someone is very toxic sometimes their body is holding onto the metals and they are not getting detoxed or excreted through the bodies detoxification organs.

Lyme is one thing that can impair detoxification...genetics can also be responsible for slow detoxification. Some people detox better than others...having Lyme doesnt help...it hinders.

Exactly.

My Birthday is over...I officially turned 36 a few hours ago...at 7:13.

Yeah...getting old is tiring...I'm off to bed now.

Oh good gosh, tell me about it sister! My turn next month!

If you'd be willing I'd highly suggest that you track down a reputable, knowledgeable LLMD in AK or come on down to the contiguous states once you can get the money together for testing (sounds like you're like me and money is on the scarce side). A good LLMD will test you for pretty much everything under the sun......not just lyme. Lyme is still a possibility if you've been bit twice. I think Carla, Rachel and Donna have been tested for lyme, mercury/metals, molds, parasites, yeast, vitamin/minerals......am I missing anything gals?

Yep, my LLMD (same as Rachel's) tested me for mold, lyme, vitamin/mineral levels, mercury/metals, thyroid antibodies (I'd already had other thyroid testing), killer cell level (related to lyme) and something else, lol. He would have tested me for even more if I hadn't had some of the testing done already. He really is thorough and tries to find the real cause of the symptoms, not just make it fit something that is convenient for him.

My naturopath has tested me for thyroid, and has discovered food intolerances galore.

I've been stool tested for parasites, yeast, bacterias etc.

Good morning! I'm still itchy This is the reaction from you-know-where!

Stupid reaction for you-know-where!!!

Yes, the glutened D really does smell like skunk......am I the only one that has this?

Um, no. I figure I've already discussed my D enough...no need to add smell into that picture.

I just don't think there COULD be TMI here.

[AndreaB]

I'm still itchy This is the reaction from you-know-where!

This is getting to be a bit much! Hope this goes away and now.

My daughter is on a tear again........she starts the mornings out nice.....doesn't last too long.

[DingoGirl]

I wonder how Richard is doing, I really enjoyed his humor.

I know, I miss him.......I also really miss our queen Julie. Anybody know how she's doing?

Um, no. I figure I've already discussed my D enough...no need to add smell into that picture.

I just don't think there COULD be TMI here.

Excellent dream story, Donna. I have MINI SERIES, epic dreams, they are SO MUCH fun - - -on adn on and on and on for HOURS, many celebrities, events, parties, colors, jewelry, love, fun, drama - - - I sometimes awake exhausted and have to lie there for 20 minutes just processing what all happenend....they are SO much more exciting than my tiny, mundane life....

Andrea - hope Talitha isn't too much of a handful today!

Patti - the itching - ugh - - - what is the current status? any better? did I miss the report? not going back......