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I have a question.....

Whey protein is used as part of the mercury removal support protocol....

What about the possible hidden msg in whey protein, whey protein concentrate and whey protein isolate?

I had also heard from Howard Lyman (the mad cowboy) that whey was a toxic substance that couldn't just be disposed of, so they put it in our food. Kinda like a lot of other things huh?

I know Mercola sells a whey protein that is from raw milk and not a by product of the cheese industry. I assume that that is the "toxic" whey?

I'm sincerely curious.

I've heard so many conflicting things about many different things with food etc. :(

Andrea,

Nondenatured whey protein is not toxic....its not the same as cheese whey. There is no "hidden" MSG in high quality whey protein.

The whey protein consists of essential amino acids....so it does contain L-glutamic acid...in its natural state. This is not the same as manufactured MSG. L-glutamic acid is a natural occurring amino acid in the body.

Its only when L-Glutamic acid reaches excessive levels in the body...that it can become a problem. Especially when it is manufactured into a neurotoxin (MSG).

L-glutamic acid in its natural state is not a neurotoxin.

Amino acids are essential for mercury detox....protein is essential for mercury detox.

Glutathione and cysteine in particular are essential for detox.

This is from Mercolas site....

It will be important to have a high protein diet as the sulfur bearing amino acids in the protein will greatly facilitate detoxification. Do NOT attempt to fast during DMPS mercury detoxification. If you are a vegetarian you will be at HIGH risk for complications from DMPS unless you have a large amount of protein.

Whey protein can be used as a supplement as it is high in glutathione and branched chain amino acids. Two large tablespoons are used per drink and that can be taken once a day and twice a day for the week prior to DMPS chelation.

Autistic children can't use this product as it contains casein. They can use pure branched chain amino acids. You can start with one capsule twice daily and mix with food. Work up to two capsules twice a day for the week prior to DMPS chelation.

This is what is stated on the whey protein sold by my Dr.

BioPure Protein is a bioactive, pure whey protein concentrate with naturally occurring immunoglobulins.

BioPure protein is prepared by utilizing a cutting edge, multi-patented ultrafiltration process at controlled teperatures and pH to prevent the protein from denturing (becoming inactive).

BioPure supplies a high concentration of naturally occurring immunoglobulins. Immunoglobulins are antibodies that function as vital components of the immune response. They are found in mothers milkin high quantities in order to provide passive immunity to newborns. The standardized process ensures a consistent immunoglobulin concentration from batch to batch.

A "pristine" source of whey

The whey in BioPure Protein is obtained from the milk of a pristine dairy herd in New Zealand - free from disease, injected hormones, hyperimmunization, genetic alteration, and environmental contamination. Whey protein has the highest biological value of any protein and supllies all essential and non-essential amino acids.

To prevent denaturation and maintain protein activity level, do not mix in hot drinks or recipes that require baking or boiling. Do not mix with pineapples or papayas because their enzymes may deactivate the protein.

Here is some scientificness clearly explaining the meanings of undenatured, nondenatured and denatured whey protein.

The word Protein means a first substance. Our first protein food was found in our mother's milk. Milk is the only food designed specifically to optimally sustain the life of a mammal. In fact, the root word for nutrition means to suckle. As a species, we would not have survived if not for the nutrition and protection mother's milk offers.

Whey is one of the two protein groups found in milk. It is a liquid complex consisting of a wide range of proteins. The other protein group is casein, which curds are made from and then processed into cheese.

Whey is an original complete protein food and is considered number one for building and regenerating our bodies and maintaining a strong immune system. Our entire metabolic process relies on the intake of complete protein. We cycle proteins into amino acids constantly.

Hippocrates, the Greek physician of the 5th century B.C., the father of medicine, stated that the body has an inner adaptive or healing power. To strengthen this healing power, he prescribed serum (liquid whey) to his patients. It was true non-denatured, native whey. It provided full biological activity and numerous health benefits. All commercial whey proteins available now are derived from extensively processed milk and incomparable to the vitality in that 2500 year-old prescription.

It is appropriate to review some important definitions of terms used:

Native Protein: The naturally occurring conformation of a protein. Unaltered by heat, chemicals, enzyme action or processing. (Native is the same structure and proportion as in the original substance.)

Denatured: To cause the tertiary structure of (a protein) to unfold, as with heat, alkali, or acid, so that some of its original properties, especially its biological activity, are diminished or eliminated. (It means damaged.)

Undenatured: To undamage. (A term that is used without discretion in the industry and is misleading. It is not possible for a protein to be undenatured.)

Non-denatured: The same structure and proportion as in the original substance with full biological activity. (Never damaged.)

Presently, the various commercial methods of processing whey do not improve or even maintain the fragile immune modulating and regenerative components or the biological activity that was originally in the milk. They all originate from the manufacturing of cheese and are by-products.

There are three commercial production methods, which comprise the majority of available whey proteins. They are isolates (the most popular), ion-exchange and hydrolyzed forms. They are all ultrafiltered, cross-flow filtered or microfiltered via elaborate patented methods developed by large dairies.

The milk used in these three methods undergoes major processing that involves high heat (163 degrees F) and drastic acidification of the whey to produce curds for manufacturing cheese. These steps denature (damage) the proteins.

What is then required is extensive filtration to remove the many denatured proteins in order to produce the highest percentage of protein. Unfortunately the fragile vital protein components, which determine the biological activity of the protein, are not retained. The terms undenatured and cold-process are prevalent with these commercial products, but once a protein is denatured it is not possible to undenature it.

The key point in regard to the quality and effectiveness of whey is that the full range of biological activity and proportion of the protein components be preserved in their original native form as nature provided. Only whey that is not involved in cheese manufacture can achieve that goal. Additionally, the health of the milking cows and quality of the milk is the foundation of this type of product.

Non-denatured whey protein has the highest biological value of any protein. It is a complete protein, unlike soy, and provides all the essential amino acids in the correct balance. The five major active proteins of whey are lactoferrin, immunoglobulins, bovine serum albumin, alpha-lactalbumin and beta-lactoglobulin.

There are many whey products available; therefore it is highly advisable to have in writing from the manufacturer, the treatment of the cows, the entire processing the milk undergoes and if cheese is part of the original production. Also request a written laboratory analysis that lists the percentage values for each individual protein. An analysis that groups two or more proteins together with a percentage number is very questionable and worthless to a discriminating professional or consumer.

Covalent Bonded Cysteine (the non-denatured form), is the critical amino acid required for the all-important intracellular production of the antioxidant glutathione (GSH). Glutathione is our body's master antioxidant and is responsible for numerous defense and repair functions and is an effective antiaging substance. Glutathione is best utilized when we produce it internally.

Cysteine is very scarce in our modern diet and therefore glutathione production is limited and deficiency is prevalent. If cysteine undergoes any heating or processing, as all commercial whey products do, it is denatured and converted to cystine. Covalent-bonded cysteine, active peptides, anabolic growth factors and enzymes are also present in non-denatured native whey, as there is no processing to denature them.

The public is now becoming more aware of the value of quality protein and is choosing whey protein for many good reasons. Not only does non-denatured whey have a wide range of immune-enhancing properties, it also has the ability to act as an antioxidant, antihypertensive, antitumor, antiviral and antibacterial.

A number of clinical trials have successfully been performed using whey as an antimicrobial agent and in the treatment of cancer, HIV, hepatitis B & C, cardiovascular disease and osteoporosis. It has a major role in red blood cell production, support in chemotherapy treatment, safe binding and detoxification of heavy metals, wound healing, growth of new muscle, weight regulation and the support of numerous immune functions.

It is used by populations that have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS), Fibromyalgia, Hepatitis, Cancer, HIV/AIDS, Respiratory disease, cognitive disorder from nutritional compromise and for any sports performance improvement.

More...

The "undenatured" and "nondenatured" whey protein products can be problematical for those with allergies to whey proteins, and the goat-milk based version Goatein may be helpful in such cases, even though the fermentation process likely converts much of the cysteine to cystine. Many people with dairy allergies are actually sensitivities to pasteurized milk proteins or allergies to casein, which is the part of milk protein that goes into the curd fraction, rather than into whey, so a dairy food allergy or sensitivity may not be an allergy to nondenatured whey protein.

The amino acid precursors should not present problems of allergic reactions, but should be taken with high quality dietary protein to ensure that they are used effectively and that if mercury is present, its transport into the brain is not encouraged.

Heres the ingredients of my whey protein...

EACH SERVING SUPPLIES:

Calories 80

Calories from Fat 15

Total Fat 1.5 g

Saturated Fat 1 g

Cholesterol 45 mg

Total Carbohydrate 1 g

Protein 16 g

Immunoglobulins 1.5 g

Calcium 60 mg

Phosphorus 60 mg

Magnesium 10 mg

Sodium 40 mg

Potassium 120 mg

AMINO ACID PROFILE PER SERVING:

L-Alanine 333 mg

L-Arginine 410 mg

L-Aspartic Acid 1,960 mg

L-Cysteine 380 mg

L-Glutamic Acid 2,860 mg

L-Glutamine 1,240 mg

Glycine 1,090 mg

L-Histidine 310 mg

L-Isoleucine (BCAA) 970 mg

L-Leucine (BCAA) 1,760 mg

L-Lysine 1,590 mg

L-Methionine 280 mg

L-Phenylalanine 520 mg

L-Proline 1,090 mg

L-Serine 960 mg

L-Threonine 1,290 mg

L-Tryptophan 280 mg

L-Tyrosine 550 mg

L-Valine (BCAA) 920 mg

This is why I suspect that Lisa felt sick from her very large doses of whey protein...

It is a good idea to proceed slowly at first if glutathione has been depleted for an extended period of time (months to years), because toxins and infections may have been allowed to build up in the absence of sufficient glutathione to keep them under control.

If glutathione is then brought up rapidly, the mobilization of toxins can produce a Jarisch Herxheimer reaction, which is an exacerbation of symptoms that can make a person feel very unpleasant.

It also states that when mercury levels are high you should consume adequate dietary protein when taking whey protein....to avoid redistribution of mercury. Vegetarians will have a very difficult time detoxing from heavy metals.

Without the essential amino acids you cannot detox mercury.

Hope this clears things up. :)

Oh yeah...I do believe that cheese whey would not be healthy. ;)


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DingoGirl Enthusiast
I have no idea why but THAT CRACKED ME UP!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Yuck though.

:lol: glad you liked it. it is pretty funny when they catch the toads, frantically shaking their heads and frothing, tongues flickering madly to get the foam out....but bashing the poor frog - - that part I do not like at all......but can't stand to see the disgusting thing in lingering torture.... :huh:

Speaking of words- I love OVOVIVIPAROUS. producing eggs that are hatched within the body, so that the young are born alive but without placental attachment, as certain reptiles or fishes. Learned it in high school biology and never forgot it.

There's oviparous- lays eggs (BAWK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) :P

viviparous- gives birth to live young.

excellent, Bev. :lol: I also very much like the words FECUND and CHICANERY. :lol:

:ph34r::blink::o:o:blink::ph34r:

I'm in shock!...........I think you ought to be tested for mercury/metals toxicity.

Now don't kill me here :ph34r: or scream at me ....I"ve been reading up on the tests - - urine, hair, etc. There are many doubts about the accuracy of same.....what should I do? :unsure:

YOU GUYS ARE SCARED OF MY CRAZY FAUVE PAINTING AREN"T YOU!!!! :lol::lol::lol: (the photo didn't translate so well as I had to downsize it so much - - kinda blurry and freakish looking as avatar, come to think of it! :lol: )

dlp252 Apprentice

Thanks for that info Rachel...that answered my casein question...I think. :P

YOU GUYS ARE SCARED OF MY CRAZY FAUVE PAINTING AREN"T YOU!!!! :lol::lol::lol: (the photo didn't translate so well as I had to downsize it so much - - kinda blurry and freakish looking as avatar, come to think of it! :lol: )

NO, I LOVE the fauve painting!!! This is what I have in my head, but can't get it onto paper or canvas...I could never get past the *trying to make it look real* thing...but wasn't good enough to make it look realistic, so got very frustrated. :P

CarlaB Enthusiast

Susan, cool painting!

It's been years since I've painted ... I've kind of turned my talents to decorating. :rolleyes: I used to use acrylics ... the oils and turpentine made me sneeze.

Murph Newbie

I couldn't help but chuckle trying to figure out how to pronounce OVOVIVIPAROUS.

Rachel - I wish I COULD remember my acct name but it was at least one computer and two moves ago.

I remember Tarnalberry and Richard tho. I think they were very active back then.

Seeing the Fauve painting mostly makes me wish *I* could do something like that. Very nice!

CarlaB Enthusiast

Murph, are you on the member list ... I'm sure you have time to sift through 11,000 members for your old name!! ;):lol: So, I'm curious, what brings you back?

DingoGirl Enthusiast
NO, I LOVE the fauve painting!!! This is what I have in my head, but can't get it onto paper or canvas...I could never get past the *trying to make it look real* thing...but wasn't good enough to make it look realistic, so got very frustrated. :P

realism is SO overrated :lol: But you see, I CAN do realism, and got stuck on that. I DESPERATELY WANT to do crazy abstracts - - to free myself from the constraints of the visual world.....and just PAINT! that is my new experimental stage.

Donna and Carla -- the toxins - you can switch to acrylics - DID I SAY THAT??? - - or watercolor. I hate acrylics....but they don't stink, at least....I still paint in oils, toxins be damned! :lol:

I couldn't help but chuckle trying to figure out how to pronounce OVOVIVIPAROUS.

Murph - - you and me both! I mouthed it several times......I think it's oh-voe-viv-VIP-or-us....

Bev? help us?

;)


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CarlaB Enthusiast

I always painted with acrylics. I took semi-private art lessons with about 6 people per class, we stood at easels ... I couldn't even stand next to someone using the oils. This was back in high school.

Now I get my desire for creativity fulfilled by decorating ... our old house was new ... and boring ... our "new" house is OLD ... many projects! Adam told me when we moved back that there should be enough here to keep me busy for years! :lol: I just wish I had the energy. My flower beds are horrible ... they need mulch ... and I had the teenagers take out a few bushes last year, but haven't been well enough to replace them. :ph34r:

When we remodeled the downstairs bath -- major project ... gutted the whole thing ... I painted, but the old wallpaper paste shows through ... I need to Kiltz and repaint ... also, I painted part of the room where the sauna is ... never finished, only the area behind the sauna.

Oh well, I CLEANED this week! :D

AndreaB Contributor
Oh yeah...I do believe that cheese whey would not be healthy. ;)

Thanks Rachel. I agree about the cheese whey by the way. :P

I have a low intolerance and allergy to dairy products but when the time comes, even if the stuff makes me sneeze, etc I will still take it. :)

Now don't kill me here :ph34r: or scream at me ....I"ve been reading up on the tests - - urine, hair, etc. There are many doubts about the accuracy of same.....what should I do? :unsure:

YOU GUYS ARE SCARED OF MY CRAZY FAUVE PAINTING AREN"T YOU!!!! :lol::lol::lol: (the photo didn't translate so well as I had to downsize it so much - - kinda blurry and freakish looking as avatar, come to think of it! :lol: )

From what my doctor says a combination of the hair and urine challenge test is the best.

I like your painting too....sorry, I spaced that post didn't I? I also pity the poor frog, but am laughing at the dogs antics. :D

rinne Apprentice
random drive-by:

I think I've posted this before, but while we're on the subject of words, "pumpernickle" is a great one :lol:

....from What in the Word? by Charles Harrington Elster

:lol:

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT EITHER...............I'M STILL REGRETING IT

BIG TIME

IT KEEPS POPPING INTO MY HEAD....I DO THAT...ESP WITH AUTO ACIDENTS......CAN'T GET RID OF THE VISIONS...WELL GUESS I DIDN'T KNOW HOW BAD IT REALLY WAS.

CAN'T EVEN TYPE ABOUT IT.........................UCK

JUST CAME ON LINE AND THE FIRST EMAIL WAS PATTI'S SO HAD TO RESPOND..

WILL READ ON AND TRY TO FORGET............................ :ph34r:

**********************************************8

...

:lol: Sorry Judy, I am so glad I didn't go there.

Hope your legs are feeling better. :)

....

Also it is nice to see u all supporting each other so much. :)

Thanks and nice to have you here. :)

Susan I really like your painting, I love Matisse. I saw a show of his in San Francisco that just blew me into joy.

You used to play with mercury!!!!! :o:ph34r::o:blink:

I think we knew it was dangerous and that we weren't supposed to touch it, but I remember pushing it around with something, hopefully not my fingers. :(

....

But I do think in general that candida and mercury go with Lyme. I don't seem to have those problems though. :blink:

Yes, but you are CARLA of carla-ing. :P:lol:

...

Speaking of words- I love OVOVIVIPAROUS. producing eggs that are hatched within the body, so that the young are born alive but without placental attachment, as certain reptiles or fishes. Learned it in high school biology and never forgot it.

There's oviparous- lays eggs (BAWK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) :P

viviparous- gives birth to live young.

OMG :lol:

AndreaB Contributor
Murph, are you on the member list ... I'm sure you have time to sift through 11,000 members for your old name!! ;):lol: So, I'm curious, what brings you back?

:lol::lol:

If Murph has hours of free time that is........then you've got the username/password thing to get by. :P

Oh well, I CLEANED this week! :D

You did very good from what you said. :D

CarlaB Enthusiast
Yes, but you are CARLA of carla-ing. :P:lol:

And I haven't even been doing that ... when I told my nurse at my LLMD that I had had sugar three times since I started the meds, she mentioned how strict I was being! :huh: I thought I was supposed to be this strict!

I probably eat more carbs than I should ... always with a protein though. The carbs just settle in my stomach better.

New avatar ... Chloe and me at the Risotteria. Patti, you'll notice the curly hair ... that's what it looks like when I just let it air dry.

AndreaB Contributor
New avatar ... Chloe and me at the Risotteria. Patti, you'll notice the curly hair ... that's what it looks like when I just let it air dry.

Nice picture. :D

Your doctor/nurse was probably surprised you were being strict since so many aren't as careful......that's my assumption anyway.....I could be wrong. :)

Judyin Philly Enthusiast
Judy, you did so well on the quoting thing!!! :P

Wow, congratulations to Jim on being the freatured artist...I did some oil painting, but never got very good...I should post one of my paintings for laughs. :P

Thanks for the kind words Donna--going to go ck out your painting after I get this up

:ph34r:

Hey Donna - - what is that cute birdie in your avatar? :)

LOVED THE GROSS BEAK AVATAR...WE HAD THOSE ARE OUR FEEDERS IN OHIO AND NOW IN PA

- me, not so much....... :angry: but the girls, they found a big fat frog, and unbeknownst to me, so I had to bash it with a shovel to kill it (the frog, not the dingo)......gruesome........ :o

AH NO...MY NATURE PUREST....A FROG BASHER :ph34r: xoxo

the lilacs were a different photo and she wanted me to combine them. :P I have one of Hawaii in my personal pic.

I'LL HAVE TO GO AND TAKE A LOOK

You used to play with mercury!!!!! :o:ph34r::o:blink:

SO DID I--- <ahttps://www.celiac.com/uploads/emoticons/default_blink.png' alt=':blink:'> WE WERE NOT TOO BRIGHT ABOUT THESE THINGS BACK THEN..I MEAN WE PLAYED WITH IT ALOT

SUSIE Q--I LOVE YOUR PAINTING...

MAN THIS THAT'S ALOT OF TIME DOING THIS.

HOW CAN YOU GUYS DO IT SO FAST????????????????????????????? :blink:

AndreaB Contributor
MAN THIS THAT'S ALOT OF TIME DOING THIS.

HOW CAN YOU GUYS DO IT SO FAST????????????????????????????? :blink:

You can never leave! :lol::lol::P:P:lol::lol:

Rachel--24 Collaborator

I bought 3 supplements last night. I got milk thistle for my liver, N-A-C for mercury detox and Alpha-Lipoic Acid (ALA) for mercury detox.

Ok..so the milk thistle gave me an immediate allergic reaction ....so that ones going back next trip to WF. :rolleyes:

The N-A-C is ok so far...I've taken it twice.

I'm not gonna take the ALA afterall cuz I read it forms a weak bond with mercury and should only be taken with DMSA or DMPS.

I'm gonna bring it to my ART session though...see what Dr. Amy says.

I'll be bringing all my supplements to my appt.

I could be brand sensitive with the milk thistle...so I'll try another one before I throw in the towel...its great for the liver and I think I might do better with an extract.

I'm doing well with my whey protein, multi-minerals and now seem ok with the N-A-C. Thats encouraging since they can all help with detoxification. :)

We'll have to see what ART says.

The stuff I DIDN'T do well with seems to be more of the herbal type stuff, natural plant stuff....chlorella, milk thistle and the seaweed extract that binds with mercury (Modifilan).

Dont know if this stuff just has impurities, maybe some heavy metals?? maybe some mold?? Not really sure whats up with those. <_<

Also Vitamin C....I havent found any I can tolerate and I get mouth blisters from it. :huh:

I read something about most Vitamin C coming from not the purest of corn sources...so I dunno...maybe its fungal. :rolleyes:

At least I'm not wasting too much money as I'm returning the stuff that dont work out.

The one I still need to retest is my Transfer Factor. I took it the same time I was taking Vitamin C. After 2 days I stopped both...not knowing which was the culprit behind the mouth blisters. I've since found out its Vitamin C....so I gotta retry the Transfer Factor and see how I do.

The Vitamin C gave me other toxicity symptoms but the mouth blisters are a really obvious clue that something not right.

I'll get everything tested with BioSET as well. :)

tabasco32 Apprentice

hey rachel thank you for the video and everything else. me and my mom watched it and couldn't believe it. going to the dentist again thursday. more constipated each time I go. must be the vapors. took a enyma regular one, stool softener, and cascara sagada and finally went this morning. I hate this so much. I want to be normal so bad. OH no my mom bought coacoa puff cereal. eeeekkkk. I want chocolate milk or anything chocolate sssooo bad! need to take my magnesium pill. Hey rachel can I do the cilantro drops if I stilll have almagams to mobilize this mercury? I took two chollera (sp?) pills today by source natural. I didn't take charcoal. I think that might be constipating me more. O.k. Talk to you later.

lisa

AndreaB Contributor
We'll have to see what ART says.

I'll get everything tested with BioSET as well. :)

Sounds like a plan. :D

Is BioSET Wednesday, 13th?

Judyin Philly Enthusiast

Rachel...forgot to thank you for the videos...so scarey....

want to send to my dentist to see.

also..the 'playing with Mercury' so forgot about that...uck.

judy

tabasco32 Apprentice

oh by the way

I bought the whey protein rachel you got but it has soy powder in it. I might have to take it back because my bladder I don't think can handle soy.

Mtndog Collaborator
realism is SO overrated :lol: But you see, I CAN do realism, and got stuck on that. I DESPERATELY WANT to do crazy abstracts - - to free myself from the constraints of the visual world.....and just PAINT! that is my new experimental stage.

Donna and Carla -- the toxins - you can switch to acrylics - DID I SAY THAT??? - - or watercolor. I hate acrylics....but they don't stink, at least....I still paint in oils, toxins be damned! :lol:

Murph - - you and me both! I mouthed it several times......I think it's oh-voe-viv-VIP-or-us....

Bev? help us?

;)

Yes- oh-vo-viv-ip-ar-us.

Susie- I love ALL your work. I still want to comission a painting from you, but you won't let me :P:(

Donna- I like your pictures too!

carla- Most go back and look at your new avatar. Love pics of everyone!

Rachel--24 Collaborator

I CANT WAIT FOR MY SAUNA TO GET HERE!!!!!!! :D:D:D

Susan....DUDE...I am gonna be seriously loving the heat!!!

Its pretty hot here in Manteca today....but just wait till I get my sauna!! I'll be COOKING!!!

WOO-HOO. B)

I havent used my air conditioning in the car yet....in fact sometimes I'll turn on the heat and make my drive home from work feel like my 5 minute sauna for the day.....ya know...work up a little sweat while driving. :P

I think most lymies cant tolerate heat.....they pretty much LOATHE the heat.

Mercury toxic people are COLD...cant get warm for NOTHING. Yeah...I think mostly I'm mercury toxic which is why I love the high heat.....without it my body has a really hard time heating up on its own and I dont sweat very easily since I became overly toxic.

From Dr. Klinghardts lecture on mercury that I posted earlier in the year...

A very key symptom is cold hands and cold feet - in the morning you get into your car and the car is cold and drive for fifteen or twenty minutes and it takes ten minutes for the car to warm up; but it takes your hands then another hour afterwards to warm up. That's mercury toxicity until proven otherwise.

The autonomic nervous system injury from the mercury toxin is very serious and the ANS cannot respond properly to cold input or heat input; it has these delayed responses. It contracts the blood vessels; they don't open up for another hour even though your car is getting warm within ten minutes, your hands should get warm in ten minutes. That's a symptom that's almost predictably disappearing when you detox somebody for mercury.

Excessive perspiration with the feeling of being too cold, but you are sweating,; chronic kidney disease, kidney infections; when the kidneys harbor a lot of mercury as they usually do, they are prone to be the playground for a lot of bacteria, fungi and viruses, and you have to get the mercury out of it.

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Hey rachel can I do the cilantro drops if I stilll have almagams to mobilize this mercury? I took two chollera (sp?) pills today by source natural.

Chlorella ia a good choice if you can handle it...dont take too much....remember to ease yourself into it. Maybe you'll tolerate it better than the charcoal....everyone is different. I cant handle the chlorella at all.

I dont know if I would mess around with the cilantro drops too much. I would start doing the drops on my wrists, ankles and kidney area....like you brought up before. Its a much gentler way to get it into your system.

You dont want to take cilantro all by itself...you need something like chlorella to help move the mercury out...cilantro wont be effective on its own. If you dont have chlorella to bind with the mercury the cilantro will just mobilize it and redistribute it to possibly more dangerous areas...like your brain.

Be very careful with cilantro. I wouldnt take the drops orally yet. See how you do with the chlorella first....if everything goes good...maybe try very small amounts of cilantro..start with like only one drop a day. Make sure anytime you take cilantro you are also taking chlorella.

Yeah...the video on amalgams really sheds some light on how bad this stuff is to have in our mouth!! :blink:

Thats nice that your mom watched it with you...my mom watched it with me too. :)

Mtndog Collaborator
I think most lymies cant tolerate heat.....they pretty much LOATHE the heat.

Mercury toxic people are COLD...cant get warm for NOTHING. Yeah...I think mostly I'm mercury toxic which is why I love the high heat.....without it my body has a really hard time heating up on its own and I dont sweat very easily since I became overly toxic.

From Dr. Klinghardts lecture on mercury that I posted earlier in the year...

Now THAT is interesting. I HATE the heat. Anything above 85 makes me feel like I'm gonna die. When I say I am "cold" it's more that I have chills. I used to be able to tolerate heat but now it makes me feel like arse.

Murph Newbie
So, I'm curious, what brings you back?

Just trying to figure out what else might be keeping me from getting well. Still incredibly fatigued from the littlest thing. I've come to accept having to sit down and rest twice just while making a simple freaking salad. :(

And too many days where I can't think. And this and that - we've heard it all before.

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