Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[tabasco32]

hi everyone it's me

I had a fun filled day on thursday. I got more fillings done, oh and that night I went to emergeny and was their for 8 hours, taking blood and doing things that wouldn't help my situation. I felt real sick and limp and my mom was screaming. She thought I was giving up and this was it for me. She kept trying to wake me up and did a good job at it.

So was my little brother. When the paramedics came, three of them couldn't find a pulse or blood pressure. I was coming in and out of consiousness. When I was consious my mom said to pray.

I am very religious so I prayed to God. I was then taken to the hospital. THere they took my blood pressure again and It was excellent they said. They took blood test for everything, minerals, kidney, liver you name it. All normal.

They were going to put an IV of mineral and stuff but I didn't need it. They sent me home after that. Then about 2:30 p.m. I went to my naturopath for acupunture. MY mom and dad were both thier with me this time.

People I have literally been praying to God for help. Especially my father to help me. He always says he has no money but I know he does. When he was at the doctors with me

he said my teeth are going to be taken care of. The whole $4,000 he is going to pay. He

paid for the visit and a package for parasites, digestive enzymes, and motility problem test.

That package is $250 bucks! He also said that I can call him whenever I needed money. He will give it to me. See prayer really does help in these circumstances! We hugged each other hard, both cried and promised to keep it touch more as we never use to before.

Me and my mom then when to whole foods and she bought organic cleaning supplies. Thats great! Now they are understanding more. I guess the night before really scared them, me too.

But I know there will be more situations that will be rough and tough, some good and bad.

Oh and at whole foods I met this one lady who works with a naturopath who had mercury toxicity herself. She went to the same dentist as me and she knows all about the detox while your teeth are being taken care of. I want to set up an appointment with her.

I want to meet a doctor face to face to hear their own experience and what they did. Isn't it funny how that lady was standing next to me and my mom while I was looking for oil of oregano and she overheard me telling to sales associate I had mercury toxicity from my teeth?

[tom]

Question.....IF I had candida would I have any type of reaction after not eating for a day?

I wanted to post some kind of answer to this but I realize I'm not sure I understand the question. Wanna rephrase it?

[tom]

I think I could have been . . . naked and on fire during a game - any game - - and could easily have been ignored.

Omg this cracked me up and brought back some memories.

An old girlfriend (2 actually, but 1 much more drastically) would have a sudden desire to get ..ahem.. 'romantic' during a game - and somehow in proportion to how big the game was.

It went so far that if the big game was the late game, I'd feign massive interest in whatever the early game was. lmao

Ahhhh the memories!

[AndreaB]

I had a fun filled day on thursday. I got more fillings done, oh and that night I went to emergeny and was their for 8 hours, taking blood and doing things that wouldn't help my situation. I felt real sick and limp and my mom was screaming. She thought I was giving up and this was it for me. She kept trying to wake me up and did a good job at it.

That is scary!!!!

I'm sure glad you are ok. I'm also glad you have your faith.

It's great that your dad has come around to helping with the rest of your teeth. Hate that it had to come to you coming in and out of consciousness to do it though.

Keep us posted on the new doctor when you go to see her.

[tabasco32]

andrea

I think yes, since theirs still food their and it might flare up in different places, just visualizing maybe not. congrats on your diagnosis. you will be healthy in no time, i just know it.

[AndreaB]

I wanted to post some kind of answer to this but I realize I'm not sure I understand the question. Wanna rephrase it?

Hm, I'll try.

I didn't eat for 24 hrs. That is not something I normally do but nothing was fixed and I didn't have time to fix anything during the day.

I'm just wondering since, I think it was you, told Jenny to cut out sugar for a day. Would there be die off within a 24 hour period if I had an overgrowth of candida. I did have chocolate last night though....after dinner.

I know I have candida in my ears.....according to my ENT, although I don't know how he knows just looking at it.

My doctor believes I have a mercury problem, mainly stemming from my amalgams. We did a hair analysis a little over a year ago. Will be redoing that and doing a challenge sometime in the next 1 1/2-2 years I presume.....gotta get my teeth taken care of first.

[tabasco32]

Rachel

I think I may be intolerant to chlorella right now. I have more intense abdominal pain on the lower left and right side. I guess maybe it's to hard for me to digest right now? I hope not.

Finally had a bowel movement today after 2 days.

I wish I could do the coffee enymas right now but my doc says no. I am to lean and weak for that. She says maybe down the line when I gain weight an stuff so I don't know.

[tom]

OMG Lisa what a day u had. So glad you're better now.

All that was from the fillings replacement process?

What an emotional swing for the reader w/ your story right after the spinaching.

My cheeks still hurt from that, but the face is dead serious.

Is there something different the dentist should've done? At the least, it makes me think if I eventually have that done I might want to do 1 at a time or something.

[Rachel--24]

OMG Lisa...

Thank God you are ok. That must have been so scary for you!!

Reading everything you wrote totally brought me back to the moments that I was in that exact same place!! I didnt go unconsious or anything but yeah...I was scared and there was a time when I didnt think I'd make it.

Remember what I wrote to you a couple days ago about how my mom didnt really understand until she looked at me one day and just knew it was really bad??

I told you that your mom may come around when she reaches that point and when she can *see* how bad all this really is. Well it sounds like both of your parents finally woke up...this was their wake-up call.

Its scary but after I went through that and I got the support from everyone around me my life has been much much easier...the situation much easier to deal with.

Its horrible you had to go through it...but its also a blessing that you now have the support of your family.

My mom and her hubby took me to the emergency room too...I dont know exactly what made her decide to take me at that moment but she did...and it was because she could *see* for the first time that I was truelly sick.

I spent a few hours in ER while they ran all the tests and waited for results. Just like you everything was normal...even though I felt like I was dying.

I'm sooooo relieved that your parents are going to be there for you....that you will be much closer after having gone through all that.

It brought tears to my eyes cuz I can relate to everything you're going through. It was such a scary time for me.

The part about meeting this lady at the store....isnt it CRAZY how these things happen!

Thats how its been for me the entire time....things just fell into my lap....the answers and the help I needed just started coming to me at exactly the right times. I did pray really hard when things got to be too much to bear. I prayed for God to please just give me the answers....no matter how horrible they might be....even if I wasnt going to survive...I didnt want to leave this world without an answer.

The next day I called a naturopath I'd seen a couple times....she knew things were really really bad and she spent a good hour on the phone with me (no charge) and she went over everything she wanted me to do....the first step was diet changes. She also talked to me about going to Kaiser and MAKING them run every test they havent run and she told me my rights as far as being a patient and how to get exactly what I needed from these Dr.'s.

So that was the beginning of this whole other chapter in my life. This is when I took complete charge of my health. This is when I started getting somewhere. Sometimes like Susan said...it takes being flat on our backs to finally look up. Thats what happened...I was as low as I could possibly be and I looked up for help....and I got it.

Apparantly prayers work because each step of the way I have been helped in every way. Somebody has come along to send me in the right direction. I really do believe in the power of prayer now.

I was really worried about you not having that support and having to stress over the money and getting the rest of the fillings removed. I am certain you will be taken care of now.

I want you to see this Dr. too....I think its important for you to see someone else *face to face* who's been there....who knows what you're going through. You can learn alot from someone who's been there and gotten better. The more knowledge you have the better off you'll be.....the more confidance you'll have in yourself.

I'm proud of you Lisa....I know how difficult all this is but you're a fighter and you're gonna get well again because you WANT to. You have the desire and now that you have the finacial help it'll be much easier and far less stressful for you.

The amalgam removal is a big stress on your body right now...a HUGE stress....you do not need added stress and worries from your family. Thank God things have turned around for you!! I'm really excited for you.

So....are you going to see this new Naturopath soon??

[DingoGirl]

RACHEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I cannot thank you enough for posting our spinached mayhem. I will never forget that time, I have copied and pasted it into a document to read again on any sort of spinached day.......holy lord what a crazy time that was! I miss Cecile......she is totally MIA.

Omg this cracked me up and brought back some memories.

An old girlfriend (2 actually, but 1 much more drastically) would have a sudden desire to get ..ahem.. 'romantic' during a game - and somehow in proportion to how big the game was.

It went so far that if the big game was the late game, I'd feign massive interest in whatever the early game was. lmao

Ahhhh the memories!

Well it's clearly a CONTROL issue, on BOTH sides!!! that is quite funny. I never did light myself on fire or get nekkid during one of his precious games.....I made jewelry and entertained myself (read: drank red wine) .....it was actually okay.....until the (dare I speak of it) the trip to the USC game and my complete gluten-induced blowup at midnight, when we walked nearly four miles to find a cab, adn I climbed 28 flights of stares to get to our room......at 2 am. Not a happy camper on that trip...the beginning of the end of our relationship. (that was 2 months before Celiac dx - - - wish to God I had never had a boyfriend during that horrible, pathetic, very sick time --- Poor Robert is all I have to say about that....(um, HE"S GETTING MARRIED BY THE WAY - - and that is just NOT STINKIN FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! )

I didn't eat for 24 hrs. That is not something I normally do but nothing was fixed and I didn't have time to fix anything during the day.

Andrea! Shame, mother Spice! you have got to eat, silly. We'll allow you time away from US to make something to eat! My God, how do you stay so NORMAL all the time? I always admire your steady, patient, maternal and gentle calm.

What an emotional swing for the reader w/ your story right after the spinaching.

My cheeks still hurt from that, but the face is dead serious.

beautifully said...

Lisa, WTH? this is from the dentist? are you sure? I am SO glad your dad is going to pay...what a blessing. But - - did the dental visit require the trip to the ER?

[tom]

Hm, I'll try.

I didn't eat for 24 hrs. That is not something I normally do but nothing was fixed and I didn't have time to fix anything during the day.

I'm just wondering since, I think it was you, told Jenny to cut out sugar for a day. Would there be die off within a 24 hour period if I had an overgrowth of candida. I did have chocolate last night though....after dinner.

Ohhhhhhh silly me - it WAS eating nothing at all and whether there was THAT reaction.

Well, I sure didn't have any die-off from one day. I thought the beasties could survive a day w/ no food as easily as I could. But someone else said that they DID have die-off in the 1st 2 or 3 days anyway, if I'm remembering right.

[tabasco32]

Rachel

I am going to make an appointment with her on monday. It would be great to talk to an actual doctor who went through this. You know it's funny how I use to pray to God for the answers too. I can hear whispers or small voice telling me things inside. And that's God. He is their for us.

My naturopath also said that I am tight and tense in my internal organs. I need to relax and deep breath and do castor oil packs regularly. But the left and right lower pain is so bad. I don't know what it could be.

[Rachel--24]

Lisa,

Dont worry about the chlorella right now....lots of people cant tolerate it. I cant tolerate it at all. Stick with the charcoal....you do absolutely need something there to absorb those toxins and to absorb the residuals from your removals.

If your Dr. doesnt want you to do the coffee enemas...what about plain warm water?? I dont think that would be hard on you. In my opinion its far worse to go 2 days without a bowel movement when you're this toxic and having amalgams removed. If you dont excrete this stuff its gonna be redistributed...you dont want that.

Probably the most important things for you right now are drinking lots and lots of water....having daily bowel movements and taking something to absorb those toxins (charcoal). Vitamin C and lots of rest too. Another thing is epsom salt baths.....have you tried that yet?? Its another safe thing to do to help your body detox.

The coffee enema was rough on me the first few times (and I'm years past amalgam removal)...I do imagine it would stir up alot of toxins in you. I would do something to make sure you get those toxins out though. You dont want to be constipated at this time.

[Rachel--24]

I cannot thank you enough for posting our spinached mayhem. I will never forget that time, I have copied and pasted it into a document to read again on any sort of spinached day.......holy lord what a crazy time that was! I miss Cecile......she is totally MIA.

I know Celia went MIA awhile back....hope she ok.

There was another one I did on "Rachelville". I'll repost that one later on.

This was around the time of Rachelville's one year anniversary.....I had planned on doing more "walks down memory lane"...but got side-tracked by scientifness.

I will try to put more of these together. Possible word suggestions??

These are some I had planned on...

Geese

Scientificness

Cult Farm (I actually had started this one but never completed it)

OMG....I read some of the most hysterical stuff putting those together!! ROFLMAO

Holy Heck.....we got pretty wild in here last summer!

[tabasco32]

Rachel

She gave me something to take from a web site called www.druckerlabs.com called intralax.

The vitamin C would be tricky to take because of my bladder pain. I am taking a digestive enzyme and I think it is causing me problems because of the bromelain. Problems in my bladder.

If I have inflammation in my bladder I wonder if the whey protein would help with that. I pray to God that it is not diverticulum.

[AndreaB]

OMG....I read some of the most hysterical stuff putting those together!! ROFLMAO

Holy Heck.....we got pretty wild in here last summer!

Yes, we did.

I miss Cecile too. I tried calling down to her place a couple weeks ago.....got no answer. I'll have to try again after I get my phone card recharged.

[tom]

I'm entirely in favor of daily bm(s), but in my experience, talking to most doctors about it is useless cuz the medical definition of C is none for 3 days!

I used to feel soooooo crappy by day 3. I'm sure many of u can relate. And w/ leaky gut, the crappy is entirely literal.

[blecch warning]

Fecal matter gets in the bloodstream and to the brain and each day I'd feel crappier & crappier. [/blecch warning]

One of the reasons I think my leaky guy has mostly healed is that I DON'T get that crappy feeling from a day or 2 w/ no bm.

(now *why* was I writing this?)

Oh ya! - hope your doc understands!

And if u can tolerate coffee [where it belongs (!), in a cup, raised to lips], it can stimulate peristaltic(sp?) contractions to help get things goin.

[DingoGirl]

OMG....I read some of the most hysterical stuff putting those together!! ROFLMAO

Holy Heck.....we got pretty wild in here last summer!

Spinached Spice, reporting here. not feeling so great in the tummy, still. But, it was a productive day nonetheless, three hours of vigorous yardwork, some tidying of the studio, a trip to Trader Joe's, a visit to a friend's, and now I am drinking mojitos with freshly squeezed lime (not Lyme), homemade simple syrup with the mint from my garden pulverized in, sparkling water and just a smidgeon of white rum. Mighty tasty.

Once again,

SIPPING WITH DINGOS. All of my beauty and charm, wasted. They are staring at me, and I do not know why. I think they are mentally whining at me. They think it's too hot.

HARRUMPH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rachel - -

Remember our dear Cissie??? do this search - - "venerable Chair of the Department of Literary Celiac Oddities" or "Celiac Historical Oddities" and blah blah blah, I know I gave her the title and can't remember all of it.....

we are barking mad, aren't we?

I am so sorry, I never contribute to scientificness, and I don't have Lyme, but I just LOVE you guys (is this the mojito talking?).

[DingoGirl]

Yes, we did.

I miss Cecile too. I tried calling down to her place a couple weeks ago.....got no answer. I'll have to try again after I get my phone card recharged.

I have unlimited long distance.....I may try calling....but I am a little bit mad at her, I have to admit. I just hope she's okay................

I'm entirely in favor of daily bm(s), but in my experience, talking to most doctors about it is useless cuz the medical definition of C is none for 3 days!

Yes Tom, peristaltic is the correct use and spelling, BTW.

Um, hallooooooooooo, spent half a summer in Italy in my twenties and had FIVE bowel movements...my record is

NINE DAYS and no poop. Can anyone beat that? quelle horror.................

[AndreaB]

I am so sorry, I never contribute to scientificness, and I don't have Lyme, but I just LOVE you guys (is this the mojito talking?).

I don't contribute to scientificness and I don't think I have lyme, although it's not totally out of the realm of possibilities, especially since I was bit by a rat when I was between 1-2 years I think.

We love you too and don't you dare go away again!

I can look up Cissie's title if need be.....I still have the town list from last year, plus the add on's from Rachelville 2 as well.

[DingoGirl]

We love you too and don't you dare go away again!

I can look up Cissie's title if need be.....I still have the town list from last year, plus the add on's from Rachelville 2 as well.

I promise to only stray for very short forays. I like it here, did not realize how much until I found myself back home again. Just don't want to annoy the scientificness-minded with my blatant LACK of substance-containing posts. But, heck, I know I am one silly goose and you need me around for pure scatological silliness, now and then.

Ahem, a request....

Please post the Town List once again, if you will, most maternal Mama Spice.

[tabasco32]

Tom

No coffee for me. Caffeine irritates my bladder also. I am taking peppermint tea and smooth moves tea and aloe vera juice right now. See if those work. Hopefully things will start working. I pray because I need to move these toxins out. I know someone who didn't have a bowel movement for 14 days. eeekkkk.

[DingoGirl]

Tom

No coffee for me. Caffeine irritates my bladder also. I am taking peppermint tea and smooth moves tea and aloe vera juice right now. See if those work. Hopefully things will start working. I pray because I need to move these toxins out. I know someone who didn't have a bowel movement for 14 days. eeekkkk.

Lisa. For God's sake, you sound like one very sick girl, and I HAVE To ask the question....

Have you been tested (properly) for Lyme?

[AndreaB]

Ahem, a request....

Please post the Town List once again, if you will, most maternal Mama Spice.

Just for you Susan. I know you and Cecile always loved these. This includes those who joined from Rachelville 2 but aren't regulars. Some have left as well. I miss Julie, haven't heard from her for awhile and I'm concerned about her too.

Rachelville Rich farmland by the ocean, with mountains at our back to provide fresh spring water. (this is going to be a very pretty place!)

Theme song: Somewhere (from Westside Story)

West Side Story - Somewhere Lyrics

A GIRL

There's a place for us,

Somewhere a place

for us.

Peace and quiet and open air

Wait for us

Somewhere.

There's a time for us,

Some

day a time for us,

Time together with time spare,

Time to learn, time to care,

Some day!

Somewhere.

We'll find a new way of living,

We'll find a way of forgiving

Somewhere . . .

There's a place for us,

A time and place for

us.

Hold my hand and we're halfway there.

Hold

my hand and I'll take you there

Somehow,

Some

day,

Somewhere!

Population (not sure haven't counted)

Rachel: President; Building and Landscape Advisor; Shopping consultant; Ice cream maker

Patti: Vice President and Teacher assistant; Decor Advisor

Julie: Governor; Village ambassador and queen

Miamia: Lt. Governor 1; Chef

Chelsea: Lt. Governor 2; Chef; Stand up Comic; Florist

Andrea: Mayor; Teacher; Assistant Treasurer; Mother Hen; Circle R Horse Farm Owner; Banker

Donna: Secretary; Security; Shopping Consultant; Pest patrol and dingo-dog flea controller (if needed)

[AndreaB]

The following are the Rachelville Ten Commandments. This is a post of Rachel's that I copied word for word.....

They have lots of stuff to read in the waiting room at my BioSet appt's.....They have this newspaper that comes out called Public Health Alert....Investigating Lyme Disease and chronic illnesses in the USA.

I found this tonight....check it out. This is for all the Rachelvillians........

But You Don't LOOK sick....

10 commandments for interacting with the chronically ill

1. Thou shalt not imply that we are not truelly ill.

You will not convince us otherwise with remarks such as, "You LOOK good," or "But you don't LOOK sick". Even if you mean them as compliments, we perceive those kind of statements as insults because they imply that you do not believe us.

2. Thou shalt not imply that the illness can be easily fixed.

People with chronic illness are persistent, if nothing else. We hang on, day after day.We see countless doctors, take numerous medications (not the R-villians though), do endless research, and continue hoping that the answer is just around the next corner. So please do not insult us by delivering diagnoses, remedies, or comments such as, "Why dont you just...." or "Have you tried..." or "You should..." If it truelly were that simple, I assure you that we would have done it already. We are sick, not stupid.

3. Thou shalt not imply that we brought this on ourselves.

We did not choose to become ill, just as we do not choose to stay ill. Simply having a positive attitude is not going to solve our problem. One would never imply that a quadriplegic chose such a trial for themselves, or could get better "if they really want to". Please afford us the same respect.

4. Thou shalt not insult or argue with our limitations or behaviors.

If we push ourselves too hard, we can suffer serious consequences. Most of us have developed coping mechanisms to help us survive, and it is cruel to expect us to do more than we are able. "Sleeping all day" is not a luxury for us -it is a critical necessity, one that we must take in order to protect whatever remaining health we have. We would much rather be out working, playing, spending time with loved ones....participating in normal activities. Perhaps it may help to think of it in terms of being one of the medications we need to take. If you wouldnt think of denying a diabetic their insulin, then dont think of denying the sufferer of a chronic illness their critical need, whether it is a mid-day nap, avoidance of certain foods or environmental factors or something else. HARUMPH!

5. Thou shall not imply that you can relate to what we are going through.

Unless you have a chronic illness of your own, you cannot possibly understand just how much suffering is happening. Of course you want to be compassionate and want to relate to people. But when you try to do this by telling a chronically-ill person that you are always tired too, it tends to make the person feel that you are minimizing their suffering. (Yeah.....not nice! )

Try saying something more along the lines of, "This must be so hard for you," or "I cant imagine what you're going through." It really does make a difference to us.

6. Thou shalt be mindful of other family members.

Chronic illness doesnt just affect the person who has it, but the whole family as well. The trauma of the illness can evoke feelings of fear, depression, anger and helplessness in all family members. The balance of family dynamics will most likely change, especially if it is a parent who is ill. The healthy spouse may end up taking on an overwhelming amount of responsibility, and even children will likely be involved in helping care for the ailing family member. Please keep these others in your thoughts as well, and make an effort to direct some special attention to them, without any mention of illness or disability. Individual family members adjust in different ways and at different paces. All members might benefit from counseling to help handle the stress involved, and each family member also needs to have time to pursue their own individual interests.

7. Thou shalt acknowledge our efforts and celebrate even our small successes with us.

For us, any day that we can accomplish a task, no matter how small, is a "good" day! Our lives are often measured in terms of doctor's visits and lab work, and our "success" measured on actually completing an entire load of laundry in just one day. Please do not look at us as if we are joking when we share these celebratory moments with you. Celebrate with us, be happy with us, and do not kill the moment by announcing that you have just completed the Ironman Triathalon in record time.

8. Thou shalt offer thy specific help.

There are so many ways to help---the most difficult part is usually getting the chronically-ill person to accept that help. We do not want to feel like a "burden". If you ofer a vague, "Call me if I can help," the call will probably never come. But if you are sincere, consider offers of specific help, such as a ride to a Dr.'s appointment, or picking up a few groceries or the dry cleaning (dry cleaning?? )These activities can be done in a way that does not add an extra burden to your own schedule.

9. Thou shalt remember important events.

I'm not just talking about birthdays and Christmas. A major Dr.'s appointment, lab test or new medication are all important events to us. Try to sincerely ask "How was your appointment? How did the lab test go? How's your new medication?" We will appreciate that you remembered, and that you cared enough to ask about it.

10. Thou shalt get to know the person behind the illness.

The illness may be a part of us, but its not a part of who we ARE. We want to be known as more than "that sick person (who cant eat anything)". You may discover that we have a wickedly funny sense of humor (Miss DingoGirl), a creative imagination (Rinne our Laughing Lyme Lady) , musical talents (Donna ), a green thumb (Judy), an over-abundant knowledge of football (Julie) or any number of things that better describe who we are, and what we would rather be remembered for.

Most of all, please remember that we are more than worthy of love, friendship and support. We are the toughest nuts you will ever meet. A chronic illness is not for whimps - rather, only the toughest of the tough can continually face the struggles of life while battling a debilitating illness. That kind of grit deserves nothing less than the pure respect and admiration, even from our toughest critic -- ourselves.

These should be the 10 commandments of Rachelville!! All in favor???

My personal favorites....#1...2...3....5 and 9.....these apply most in my life since I got sick.

#1 2 and 5 make me want to get violent.

Julie...this is when I would need my punching bag!