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Rachel--24

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dlp252 Apprentice
Have you or anyone else found a way to test a way for corn intolerance other than trial and error. Please let me know, as I think we may be in the same boat. I hope you're feeling better though

Hello and welcome! I had two skin scratch allergy tests for foods...the only food that showed up was oats, but yet I react to lots of foods. I even did an elimination diet, or tried to, but couldn't really do it right because I never got to a point where I wasn't reacting to something. Turns out the base "safe" diet, included lots of things I am reacting to. I found that out by doing a form of muscle testing called BioSET. I used that list to form my base diet and now I'm trying to add foods back in.

Had our phone consult ... Chloe has a slightly elevated lead level, we'll start chelating next month. She has a clinical diagnosis of Lyme. We will be observing her reaction to antibiotics (see if she improves or herxes).

If you want to know what he's giving her, PM me.

I'll tell you about mine later, gotta go.

I'll be PMing you! :lol:

Of course, being here, Lyme will be the 1st thing I want to check if I start going downhill again.

I've considered getting pre-emptive tests. Maybe I should just go ahead and do it.

Or would not feeling the effects yet make it not show even if it is hiding, waiting to strike? Hmmmmmm

I didn't think I was having a lot of symptoms of lyme and yet my test came back positive. :unsure: Course, now I know that many of them are indeed symptoms of lyme.

Donna!

I wonder if I saw u sing!

I'd always stop to listen, but only went once in the last few yrs.

Well, I think we've sung there the last 4 or 5 years. I didn't sing with the choir this last Christmas though cuz I was in Jamaica, Costa Rica, Panama Canal... :lol:

She mentioned that it sounded like a herx ... this is GREAT! A herx and I'm not flat on my back!!! I think she's right because little things have been bothering me that normally don't. I actually cried last night that I couldn't sleep :blink: , crying is ALWAYS a sign of a herx ... I don't really cry otherwise.

...

She said that my herxes could be lightening up and might be more mild now. Maybe this is because the babesia has lightened up so much. Everyone on LN seems to think the babs herxes are the worst.

Wow, this is great!!!! Yay! Something for me to look forward to though...I supposedly also have Babs, Bart and Erl-a-whatever...guess I really should learn how to spell that if I've got it. :P

Cool!! I cant remember if I ever watched a choir sing there or not. I'm usually going later in the evening when the crowd dies down some. One year I went for all the festivities of "tree lighting ceremony"....I'm sure there must have been a choir that night. I dingo'd it though.

We usually sing at 7 or 8 at night...not a lot of people around then, lol. The last couple of years they've had the kids' choir go first then we sing at 8. Our small group sang two Christmases ago...I was terrified because we had actually just formed as a group and that was our first performance. :o Yikes. :lol:

Anyway, I can't afford to go on vacation this year, so I'll probably be there with the choir unless I'm too sick. ;)

Hey Donna....I just recently noticed that the Dr. who put this list of foods together is Dr. Vincent Marinkovich.

He's actually the mold Dr. that Scott wanted me to go see after I had my first ART session. Dont know if you recall that I was planning on seeing this mold Dr. in Redwood City?? There was also another guy....about an hour away....but I was gonna see Dr. Marinkovich first.

I got all the paperwork from his office but never made the appt. I dont know how helpful it could be to me right now....seems like nothing can be as beneficial as getting the metals detoxed.

Now that Scott is more familiar with me and my issues...I think I'll ask him what this guy can do....if anything...to improve my situation with molds. I could see if the molds were an issue on their own...but since the metals are behind it...holding the molds in place...it seems like it might be fruitless.....cant hurt to find out more though.

Hum, must have dingo'd everything about this, lol. :lol: I wonder if he could help me. Dr. S wasn't very reassuring in the mold department. I keep remembering what he said on my first appointment (BEFORE he saw the actual results of my mold toxicity test), that in his experience it will be really tough for me to get better as long as I'm exposed to mold.

Now that I KNOW I have mold toxicity, well... :P

Scott never says much about mold during my sessions...maybe next time I'll ask him specifically about this.

Just today, I DID move the two plants I had sitting two feet away from my head at work. I put them further away as a little test.


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tom Contributor
Of course, when Rachel and Rinne started talking about it, I thought, No way, those 30 ticks that bit me were healthy! :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So, that's the long answer .... I never got well, I just saw improvement when I went gluten-free.

Thx Carla!! :)

rinne Apprentice
Great news!

I'd be interested in that in the future. I also want to get Lorka's cookbook.

:)

Who's Lorka?

......

Can you feel the parasites?

I couldn't.

What is C? Vitamin C?

Oh and can you wash dishes with tap water?

Sorry, yes C is Vitamin C. :)

....

Just today, I DID move the two plants I had sitting two feet away from my head at work. I put them further away as a little test.

:unsure: Plants have mold?

Hello TheRockShow and welcome. Sorry, I can't be of much help but fortunately others can. :)

tom Contributor
She means she invented it. B)

Yup Rinne has invented some kind of ice cream treat (Rinne Bars)....one day she will be just as famous as Ben & Jerry. ;)

Well, Ben, for sure.

But Rinne'll be MUCH MORE famous than Jerry. (He's almost never recognized outside of New England) :P:lol:

Oh wait - who's the bigger one? :lol:

NoGluGirl Contributor

Dear Rachel,

I do not know if penicillium is used now or not, either. I would not be surprised if I am highly sensitive to aspergillus.

Mold in general, whether it is in food, in the shower, or anywhere else bothers me. It causes all kinds of nasty things, like eyes burning, sneezing, headaches, my head feeling swollen, etc. :( I found it interesting that you mentioned it was in cigarettes.

Second hand smoke bothers me a lot. It makes my throat burn and makes me cough. Maybe it is the fungus. Who knew they put that in those things? :blink: How strange!

I love Mexican food, too! The hot stuff is good! :) Burritos, quesadillas, tortillas and salsa! I love them all! I miss them!

I am thinking about suggesting a celiac disease-57 count to my doctor when I see her again. That would be a good back-up plan in case she does not approve of the lab. I have not heard anything about that, yet. They called the other day and said she has not gotten the chance to check it out yet. We need to know ahead of time so we can order to kit if she agrees to using IgeniX.

Dear tom,

I know I can get better. It will take time, though. Thank you for the inspiration! I could use it! Especially right now. I caught that terrible stomach bug going around where it makes your colon hurt and cramp, and makes you queasy.

Mom has had it, too. I swear if I did not have relatives, I would never be sick with any infectious disease! It is bad enough I am already chronically ill! :( Right now, I hurt and I am so worn out. Even worse, I have to get a ton of assignments in for Finance tonight. It is the last day for late work. I hope I can save my grade.

I am so worried I will start puking or something. I cannot handle that! I am frail enough right now. It is too much of a burden on my body to have more wrong. I hope to God I am alright while I go see the hairdresser tomorrow. She is going to do a consult and maybe a patch test.

I am glad fricos and a**crackers are not the same thing! That could be a very bad mix-up! :lol: It is really amazing how simple things like that can be so great. I enjoy those things. I also like to cook, so I do not mind things that require some effort.

Charly and E.A. sound all to familiar to me, too. Things go well, then they suck. Those ups and downs are difficult to deal with emotionally after so long. Sometimes you wonder if you will ever recover. There are times where you are full of hope, and other times feel completely hopeless.

The Big Mac song is not something I can recite, but do remember hearing it. However, because I own a Top Secret Recipes book, I do know what goes on it! :D I miss eating those with those fries! I hate gluten! It is all its fault! :angry:

I could be normal if it weren't for that crap!

I am sure you would know about those teenage boys who want to become O.B./GYNs! :lol: They do have a pretty good liking for Playboy! My mother made my father get rid of all of his issues when they married. He was not happy about it, but he did it! Now that is true love! :lol:

Your time in the park sounded like fun! They must have some great festivities during Christmas out there! California is a neat place! I hear it is beautiful, too! I wish I could move out to L.A.

Dear Lisa,

Mexican food is so good! I agree! I have never had flan, but I think I would really like it. There are so many tasty Mexican treats! I kind of like the hot stuff!

In fact, that was one of the things that helped me figure out that something else besides acid reflux or IBS was the problem. I could suck the juice straight from a jalepeno, and be fine. Yet, I could eat tuna and crackers and get terrible acid reflux. Of course, now that I know about Celiac, that helped. Although I am not Latina, a lot of people thought I was because I spoke Spanish so well.

It is such a beautiful language! I just found out one of my classmates was born and raised in Peru! We had fun speaking in Spanish to each other! She complimented me on my Spanish. My other poor classmate had to take Spanish three times before she passed. I felt so bad for her. I had four years of it in middle school and high school.

You mentioned before you were an alcoholic. The yeast very well could have caused that. It is believed that it makes people crave alcohol to feed it. Some people crave sugar instead. It depends on the person.

Dear Rinne,

Thanks for the flan idea! That sounds delicious! Despite being sick, I am spunky. I am less perky than usual, though. I want to get rid of this stomach bug! I need to feel better quick! I have to go out tomorrow!

That is great news that the Rinne Bars will be hitting shelves soon! One small local store is a start! Just think, in a year from now, you may be rich! That other recipe sounded great you are talking about for the cake, too. I am going to make some Lemon Bars soon. I am sure those will be great!

Dear Mia,

We are all anxious for you appointment. It is two weeks away? That seems like forever! I bet it seems so long for you! Hopefully, you will be able to get some testing done.

Wow, you got to go to Puerto Rico? I hear the beaches there are beautiful! Flan sounds so good! I would not mind having some of that! Caramel (el dulce de leche) definitely adds something great to it!

Dear mftnchn,

What terrible news! I am so sorry you are having a Lyme relapse. Lyme is known to do that. Sometimes you have to do the herbal protocol along with medications. I hope you can get good treatment for it in China.

I have heard of reservatrol. I know it is a powerful antioxidant. It is primarily found in grapes and red wine. It also has strong anti-aging compounds. These compounds destroy free radicals that can damage cells.

Dear Donna,

Do you know if you guys are going to be singing this year at the park? It would be so neat to see you there! Of course, we all have to get out to California first! :) I have always wanted to go there! You said your group is actually quite small. Usually, only large groups perform at things like that.

Dear Carla,

Yes, my posts are huge! :lol: Me and Rachel are the posting queens! I have hyper fingers! There is always a lot to respond to! Everyone has stuff to talk about, you know! Plus, inquiring minds want to know! :P

It sounds like that doctor of yours is an arrogant you-know-what! Forget him! That is kind of weird that he has a thing for pregnant women. In fact, it is creepy! Pregnant women can be a beautiful thing, but some guys are just freaks about it.

I would have been disappointed about that property, too. I would love a huge kitchen! Since I love to cook, that is important to me! We have a small kitchen here. That can be problematic on many levels. There is not enough storage space, and we cannot have all three of us in there at once without bumping into each other.

Dear Bev,

Hey, what are you up to? We miss you Silly Spice! Did you get to do anything fun? I have not. I hope tomorrow this stomach bug will let up. Mom says it took her several days before she felt better.

Dear Patti,

Hello Angel Spice! How are you doing today? We have no heard as much from you lately. Are you guys moving already? I know your hubby got that new job.

Dear Andrea,

Lovely new avatar! Everyone looks so happy! The children are adorable! You must really be proud of them!

It is difficult to get everyone in the same picture, though.

We hope your doctor's appointment goes well. When do you go again? I know it is sometime soon. You have to travel a ways, too. That is one of my least favorite things is having to sit in a car for hours.

Dear Susie,

I can relate to the ups and downs. Even though I am not bipolar, I do understand the hopelessness that came after some good times. It tends to make you sad. I think about how happy I was once, and how unhappy I am now. You wonder if you ever will have a life again.

Dear Judy,

Hey, how are you? Have you spoken with your doctor recently? I know you are frustrated with him. That is understandable considering the situation. My last doctor was like that. He was old-fashioned. Old-fashioned is not bad if it does not cost anyone their health.

My doctor at the time just was stuck on giving pills for everything. They need to get to the cause. It is really rediculous how they push pills on you. Like tom said, SSRIs are handed out first thing! Those pills are dangerous. I have been stuck on one for six years! I wish I could get off of it.

Dear Alison,

Howdy! I do not know if I will get to get my hair done the way I want or not. The hair stylist says my hair needs to be the right consistency. Tomorrow she will let me know. Hopefully, my stomach will finally calm down. She said she cannot fit me in until next week anyway. I was hoping to get it done before the weekend! There is my grandfather's birthday I wanted to look good for! My hair looks horrible right now!

Sincerely,

Jin

tabasco32 Apprentice

Can I buy shares of the Rinne bars? :D

CarlaB Enthusiast
When will she be starting on the antibiotics?

I think I could probably guess what he'll be using to chelate the lead....then again maybe not. :unsure:

She'll be starting on the abx on Thursday ... after her Wednesday birthday.

I'm using detoxamin, alpha lipoic acid, and NAC. I would guess she'll use the same, but I'm not sure. I started this protocol last night.

Her mercury was very low.

I did this and I saw parasites.

I did the salt/c and never saw anything. Maybe I don't have parasites .... my test hasn't come back yet.

I made some more fudge. I used more coconut oil, half the agave (about 1/8 cup) and less almond butter. It was MUCH better this time! My PA said that agave is fine. She also said that berries were the lowest in sugar of the fruit, so that with my homemade, sugar-free whipped cream is perfect. :) I'm using frozen berries to avoid mold. :)

I told her there was no more diarrhea since the first ecoffee .... she said she thought Dr. H used to recommend them, and she has a few patients she will mention that to. She's been really concerned about my constant, now non-existant d.


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CarlaB Enthusiast
Can I buy shares of the Rinne bars? :D

Yeah, are you taking investors? :D Or at least selling cases to friends?

dlp252 Apprentice
Plants have mold?

Well according to my two allergists they do, lol. This was one of the first things my allergist told me 5 years ago when he first tested me and I tested positive for mold allergy. Then when he retired and the new allergist took over, I was retested and still tested reactive to mold, they told me to get rid of the plants too. I had already done that mostly, but I did something nice for a secretary in one of our other offices and she sent me a really nice plant...then my co-workers got me one too. Then of course, there's the one my dad had for 20 years or so in his house...when he died I wanted the plant, and I've had it for 11 years now...it's just GOT to be full of mold...in fact I swear I can see a little. I just have to decide if I can part with the plant. I haven't been able to get rid of it yet...just can't.

Do you know if you guys are going to be singing this year at the park? It would be so neat to see you there! Of course, we all have to get out to California first! I have always wanted to go there! You said your group is actually quite small. Usually, only large groups perform at things like that.

Pretty sure...the only thing that might change that is if they don't have a night available that works for us as a group, although I think they invite us back each year, and I think last year they gave us lots of choices. Our small group has 6 (including me)...we are probably going to be adding at least a couple more people in September though...our church is merging with another church and we thought it would be nice to have some people from there join us.

Our choir has also sung the National Anthem at the SF Giants game...I think we did that two or three times...I've done it twice with them, but I think they did it another time when I couldn't go.

Can I buy shares of the Rinne bars?

Yeah, are you taking investors? Or at least selling cases to friends?

Yes, great idea! :lol:

NoGluGirl Contributor

Dear Lisa,

Hey, that is a great idea! Stock options are something we did not ask about yet! Rinne could give us some shares in the company! I always wanted to be a big shot on Wall Street!

Organic foods are becoming more popular, you know!

Dear Carla,

I am glad Chloe finally has some answers. It is probably good to wait on the ABX until after her birthday! Her difficulty in school and lead being in her system certainly make sense.

Lead can cause retardation, sterility, learning disabilities, and all kinds of other problems. It is also great to hear your herxes are lightening up!

Sincerely,

Jin

dlp252 Apprentice

Okay, is anyone having trouble getting onto to LN? I've tried all day long, both at work and at home to get to the message boards over there and can't connect. From home I'm getting the gateway timeout message and from work was getting a server message. I thought it was just work, but can't get on from here either. :( Did I get banned. :lol: Sheesh, I haven't even participated in any of the controversy over there. :P

tom Contributor

Hey hey Jin u post-combining lunatic!!

Hehehe :lol:

1st, I've seen too much talk of comida to not weigh in.

Carniiiiiiiiiiiiitaaaaaaaas!!!!!!!

And I used to use Chile Verde as my "test new place" dish. Mmmmmm comes w/ torts for a build-yer-own feast. <drool>

Dear tom,

. . . . . . . Even worse, I have to get a ton of assignments in for Finance tonight.

Hope they're not the mindbending numbing type. Good luck dealing w/ the bug. :)

My mother made my father get rid of all of his issues when they married. He was not happy about it, but he did it! Now that is true love! :lol:

:lol: u sure she checked that far left corner of the garage? . . . . . . up higher . . .

:lol:

Your time in the park sounded like fun! They must have some great festivities during Christmas out there!

Ya Xmas in the Park is well done. It's up for 5-6 wks so not all crowded.

Downright enchanting for a kid at the right age. Watching a kid's face really makes a Xmas don't it.

Donna,

Do u know if music groups perform each Dec wkend or just Xmas? I would've guessed more than Xmas but I wouldn't want to set the over/under. (Ok who's gambling literate?? :P )

tom Contributor
Then of course, there's the one my dad had for 20 years or so in his house...when he died I wanted the plant, and I've had it for 11 years now...it's just GOT to be full of mold...in fact I swear I can see a little. I just have to decide if I can part with the plant. I haven't been able to get rid of it yet...just can't.

No one ever called me an amateur botanist but aren't some plants fine w/ taking a piece (aaaaargh I think I know what term I want to use, but it's stuck) that'll grow into a full, cleaner plant?

Not a graft is it? I was thinking something else.

That would feel like the same plant to me.

:)

CarlaB Enthusiast
That is kind of weird that he has a thing for pregnant women. In fact, it is creepy! Pregnant women can be a beautiful thing, but some guys are just freaks about it.

No, it wasn't creepy. It might sound that way over the internet though ... now, hubby loved me pregnant, he thought it was incredibly sexy. :blink: He misses it.

AndreaB Contributor
Who's Lorka?

lorka150. She's the one who created the most deliscious bread recipe. Robbin, posting as gluless, wrote a post about it if you want to go to her profile and check her posts.

She's also laur on D/S.

AndreaB Contributor
We hope your doctor's appointment goes well. When do you go again? I know it is sometime soon. You have to travel a ways, too. That is one of my least favorite things is having to sit in a car for hours.

It's the 28th. It's about a 3 hour drive.

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Tom.....I saw your post about kinesiology on another thread (I voted for the guy to EAT gluten :D ).

I dont know of any blind studies but I've had ART done by two different people....with almost identical results. I think I know my body pretty well and had a good idea of what I *thought* were my big problems. ART nailed it.

I've had so many tests done in the past 5 years...I couldnt even begin to list them all. I've never done any kind of muscle testing prior to ART so was pretty skeptical but tried to keep an open-mind about it.

The way I feel about it now is that this has been the most reliable and most informative test I've had during my entire illness.

I know for me its been reliable....but I'm only one person. I'm always interested in other people experiences too....so far I have not read any posts (on lymenet) where someone has found their results from ART to be questionable.

I have alot of faith in this type of testing now...dont know about other types of kinesiology cuz I've only had experience with ART....but yeah...I wouldnt trade this test for anything else. I'm a satisfied patient. :)

Autonomic Response Testing, also known as ART, is a simple safe, natural method of analyzing the body's structural, physical and nutritional needs. A deficiency in any of these areas could cause or contribute to various acute or chronic health problems.

ART is not a method of diagnosis diseases. It is a means by which the body's own responses are used to accurately determine the root cause of a health problem.

ART is also a marvelous preventative technique used to find a problem before it becomes a full blown health issue. Find it early and correct it.

ART reveals the root Cause of a Health Problem.

Many times the symptoms of a health problem are treated while the actual source of the problem continues to go undetected. For example, headaches are treated with aspirin, coughs are treated with cough medicine. If these symptom persist, expensive tests are run and stronger medications are prescribed. But the question still remains. What's causing the headache? What's causing the cough?

There is hope. ART is different. ART quickly and accurately uncovers the cause of the health problem and provides answers for correcting it.

Procedure of Autonomic Response Testing

The human body is constantly being monitored, controlled, and organized by an intelligent, bioelectric force called the autonomic nervous system (ANS). Life circulates in our bodies by way of the autonomic nervous system. The ANS is in direct contact with every cell, muscle, organ and tissue, and it knows exactly what is happening inside our bodies at all times. It is our functional nervous system.

ART helps to find where the ANS disturbances are, the root causes for these, and how the various organs and body structures relate to each other.

ART helps prioritize system dysfunctions and allows custom tailoring of an individualized therapeutic approach to restore health.

Deficiencies and Illness

Physical deficiencies are caused by environmental agents such as chemicals, parasites, viruses and bacteria that attack the body and make it sick. Proper nutrition needs to be given to strengthen and/or support the problem area.

Health authorities are finally admitting that good nutrition is important to good health.

Natural Health Professionals continue to prove that most health disorders share the same root problems: improper body function, brought about by nutritional deficiencies and life-style.

ART is Accurate

A great degree of accuracy is possible with ART. It will even uncover deficiencies at a sub-clinical level; that is when the problem is so tiny that the person may not be aware of it, and many modern methods of testing could not detect it.

Until ART, the methods of determining the body's structural, physical and nutritional needs were costly, time consuming and at times frightening. The only method of determining a nutritional need was by a person's symptoms, expensive lab work, and the doctor's knowledge of biochemistry, physiology and nutrition. An educated guess was made.

Now with ART, the educated guess is no longer necessary. ART is the finest natural method of guiding the health practitioner to the root of the problem.

With ART, the practitioner is also able to prove to the person that the source of the problem has been located, and the proper nutritional support has been given.

Amazing Facts About Your Body

Except for your brain cells, 50,000,000 of the cells in your body will have died and been replaced with others while you have been reading this sentence.

The adult heart beats about 40,000,000 times a year. In one hour, the heart works hard enough to produce enough energy to raise almost one ton of weight one yard from the ground.

The liver is often called the body's chemical factory. Scientists have counted 500 different liver functions.

The central nervous system is connected to every part of the body by 43 pairs of nerves. Twelve pairs got to and from the brain, and 31 go from the spinal cord. There are nearly 45 miles of nerves running through our body.

Messages travel along the nerves as electrical impulses. The fastest they travel is about 248 miles per hour.

In one square inch of skin, there are four yards of nerve fibers, 1300 nerve cells, 100 sweat glands, 3 million cells and three yards of blood vessels.

The point behind all these facts is that your body is a wonderful, complex creation. Like a machine, all of its parts (organs, glands, muscles and tissues) must be in good working condition. Its autonomic nervous system must be carrying energy and information smoothly to all areas. There must not be any short circuits. Finally, it must be fueled with the proper nutritional to keep it function, alive and well.

ART is Used By Many Health Professions

The following is a quote form the Institute of Neurobiology, the organization that teaches Autonomic Response Testing through out the world.

"Autonomic Response Testing was developed by [ Dietrich Klinghardt, M.D., Ph.D. and Louisa Williams, N.D., D.C.] which seeks to marry the techniques and philosophies which originated in the United States, with the European branch of healing called Neural Therapy. . . .Autonomic Response Testing primarily focuses on the assessment of health and/or dysfunction of the autonomic nervous system.

It is our belief that the autonomics are the chief regulators of normal and abnormal function of the body and that other nerves are primarily influenced and controlled by autonomic homeostasis (A.R.T., Autonomic Response Testing, Institute of Neurobiology, Inc., 2001, Seattle, WA)."

Aside from testing the ANS via the heart (tested through the ECG,HRV), Autonomic Response Testing is the only general clinical test for evaluating the ANS.

The Conclusion

The results we have been having with ART are often in the 90% and better range.

What I'm told is the same as what I'm reading here....that the accuracy of ART results are above 90%. I believe it....most people who choose to back-up their results with traditional testing find that ART correctly identified the problem.

I guess Donna would be one example. Her ART results clearly identified Lyme as a main factor in her illness....she wasnt convinced (cant blame her...I was pretty surprised with her results too :huh: )

She got the Dr. to order the lab tests.....and sure enough she tested positive for Lyme.

So yeah...I think its a really valuable test. If I had to decide on this type of testing myself I'm sure I would have passed it up. I never had to make that decision though.

My BioSET practitioner found my problems to be very complex and wanted me to do ART to see if we could nail things down faster and save ourselves some time. I had already been going to BioSET for weeks and even though we had a good idea of everything involved...we really didnt know what the biggest problems were....we just knew that I had all these issues going on. She said that ART could "prioritize" everything so that we know what we're really dealing with and how to proceed with treatment.

I had no idea what the heck "ART" was :unsure: .....I just did what she said. There was no charge because the person doing the test was doing it for experience and not $$.....so I didnt have to decide if I felt it was gonna be worth the cost or anything like that.

Obviously I was very pleased with the results. Now I have a Dr. testing me and I'm happy to pay for it....because I believe in the accuracy of this particular test. :)

I know this doesnt answer your specific question re: double blind study and I didnt plan on this lengthy response....but hey...what can I say...I racheled my post...AGAIN. :P

Rachel--24 Collaborator
The first part of the Klinghardt protocol for Lyme is dealing with parasites through salt/c. I did this and I saw parasites. He does three six weeks courses of salt/C.

Klinghardt also says the salt/C has an independent effect on the Lyme.

Yeah...a patient and friend of Klinghardts posts regularly on LymeNET.... I remember in one of her posts she said that he does not use salt/C as a treatment for Lyme...he uses it for parasites. He uses other treatments for Lyme.

CarlaB Enthusiast

Back in 91 when I had my fillings removed and did the anti-candida diet, I spoke with a nutritionist (owned the health food store, so was free). She did kinesiology.

The first time I was in, she told me I was sodium deficient. I had been told this by a doctor. Since so few people are sodium deficient, I was impressed. The second time she told me my sodium was high. I had just eaten salty pretzels.

She tested me for supplements the old fashioned way, holding them up to me and doing the arm thing. This told her which supplements and how much. It made sense because everything fit what I already knew.

I got better ... Lyme into remission for over a decade.

I believe in it. Have no clue how it works or why, but it's right on the money.

Rachel--24 Collaborator
YEah all of those. Italian, mexican, and chinese. Even though the smell of gluten makes me sick right now. OH man when we are better God willing, come to Fresno I know the best Pizza Parlor and Mexican Restaurant. The best Tamales ever thick with masa.mmmmm

Banana Split or German Chocolate Cake.

Deal...when we get better...I'll go to Fresno and we'll go crazy with pizza and mexican food. :D

oh....and definately banana split!!! B)

AndreaB Contributor

Thanks for the info on ART Rachel. I've got it copied over. :D

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Oh Great, I just keep getting myself more toxic and toxic. Yeah I have been rinsing my veggies in tap water and chicken. Would the filtered water from the frige be o.k. I don't want to drink bottled water. To much Uranium in that. I did use distilled water for the enymas though. I didn't one time and got the worst anal cramp ever.

The only water I've been drinking is Penta water (which is really expensive :( ) or distilled water. I dont like Whole Foods brand distilled water cuz I can taste the chemicals from the plastic. I've been using Arrowhead and tastes pretty clean to me.

Rachel--24 Collaborator
I found that out by doing a form of muscle testing called BioSET. I used that list to form my base diet and now I'm trying to add foods back in.

Actually BioSET isnt muscle testing....its energetic testing using computerized equipment.....(electromagnetic testing with an EAV device).

ART is a form of muscle testing.

rinne Apprentice
Well, Ben, for sure.

But Rinne'll be MUCH MORE famous than Jerry. (He's almost never recognized outside of New England) :P:lol:

Oh wait - who's the bigger one? :lol:

:lol:

..... Dear Rinne,

Thanks for the flan idea! That sounds delicious! Despite being sick, I am spunky. I am less perky than usual, though. I want to get rid of this stomach bug! I need to feel better quick! I have to go out tomorrow!

That is great news that the Rinne Bars will be hitting shelves soon! One small local store is a start! Just think, in a year from now, you may be rich! That other recipe sounded great you are talking about for the cake, too. I am going to make some Lemon Bars soon. I am sure those will be great!

....

Sorry to hear your stomach is upset, I know how it stresses me if I'm not feeling well and I have an obligation. :(

I hope you feel better for tomorrow. :)

Can I buy shares of the Rinne bars? :D

Yeah, are you taking investors? :D Or at least selling cases to friends?

Well, if I decide I'm looking for investors you'll be the first ones I talk to. :lol:

There could be a special Rachelville discount. <_<:lol:

Well according to my two allergists they do, lol. This was one of the first things my allergist told me 5 years ago when he first tested me and I tested positive for mold allergy. .....

Thanks Donna, I only have two plants in the house and I could probably part with them although it is nice to have something green and growing about.

What about fresh flowers?

lorka150. She's the one who created the most deliscious bread recipe. Robbin, posting as gluless, wrote a post about it if you want to go to her profile and check her posts.

She's also laur on D/S.

Thanks Andrea, I keep meaning to visit D/S and here is another good reason too. :)

.....

My BioSET practitioner found my problems to be very complex and wanted me to do ART to see if we could nail things down faster and save ourselves some time. I had already been going to BioSET for weeks and even though we had a good idea of everything involved...we really didnt know what the biggest problems were....we just knew that I had all these issues going on. She said that ART could "prioritize" everything so that we know what we're really dealing with and how to proceed with treatment.

I had no idea what the heck "ART" was :unsure: .....I just did what she said. There was no charge because the person doing the test was doing it for experience and not $$.....so I didnt have to decide if I felt it was gonna be worth the cost or anything like that.

Obviously I was very pleased with the results. Now I have a Dr. testing me and I'm happy to pay for it....because I believe in the accuracy of this particular test. :)

....

So, I wonder if there is anyone in my part of the world that does this?

Rachel--24 Collaborator
So, I wonder if there is anyone in my part of the world that does this?

I'm sure there is. I think there are practitioners all over the world doing ART.

My BioSET lady frequently goes to Canada.....next time I see her (maybe a month from now) I'll have to ask her if she knows anyone doing it over there. Remind me next time I'm posting about an upcoming appt. with Anna. :)

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