Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[tom]

I know this doesnt answer your specific question re: double blind study and I didnt plan on this lengthy response....but hey...what can I say...I racheled my post...AGAIN.

I did it myself back in jan '06 just outside Tucson. Can't remember her name. Grrrr

Went looking for more info, and was surprised at how little there was of the type I wanted.

I said he may as well find out, too, but the tarnalberry strong challenge. Someone I don't know posted after me to try a little, but that can too easily cloud the results.

I say find out for SURE!!

[NoGluGirl]

Dear tom,

Yes, I am a post combining freak! I rachel the posts! Me and Rachel are epic posters! We are the Epic Posting Spice Twins! It is definitely our thing.

Mexican is so good! We have a number of restaurants here. I know they are a far cry from Taco Bell. True Mexican is very different from what most people think it is! Hormel Tamales are as close as I can get now, unless I make it myself!

Christmas in the park must have been spectacular! I agree that children show the true magic of the holiday. We used to do a charity called Adopt-a-Family for it. It was so sad that these poor kids never got anything. Despite the fact we always were broke, my Dad always worked late and did whatever he could to make sure we had a good Christmas with presents under the tree every single year.

We have the Easter Seal's Festival of Lights at Garvin Park. It is a light display. There are a ton of beautiful displays.

Plus, you can ride in a horse-drawn carriage! Plus, the proceeds go to a great cause!

Our largest event though, is the Fall Festival. It is the second largest street festival in the world next to Mardis Gras!

Who would have thought little old Evansville, Indiana had that? Believe it or not, it is the truth! The first full week of October is when it occurs.

They have all kinds of food. There is everything from Gator Gumbo to Pronto Pups (corndogs)! I would like to say this is one thing I hate about Celiac. I cannot eat at the festival anymore! No more homemade candies, no more cobbler, cheese fries, or anything else.

Dear Andrea,

Thank you for the reminder. I knew it was soon. I was sure it was not in July. Three hours in a car! That would drive me insane! I would fly everywhere if I could!

Dear Carla,

I have heard a lot of men get turned on by pregnant women. How funny is that? All this time, we thought we look like fat cows to men if we are pregnant, and that is not true. I think it was Demi Moore who posed nude pregnant on a magazine cover some years back. I think some even posed for Playboy that way.

Dear Rachel,

All of that ART information was fascinating! That is amazing! I did not know that stuff! Who would know that we lose 50,000,000 cells while reading an article? It is pretty cool scientificness!

Dear Rachel and Lisa,

I am in on the Italian, Mexican, and Chinese food, too! I love it! They all sound so good! I especially love Chinese. Mexican and Italian are close seconds. Okay, truthfully, if it does not crawl off, I will probably eat it.

Lisa reminded me of something. I like to watch Daisy Martinez. She has a show called "Daisy Cooks". All kinds of hispanic delicacies are featured. Her heritage is Puerto Rican.

She made a traditional Christmas dinner. It consisted of some really tasty stuff. The beverage particularly sounded good. It is called Coquito. It has rum, coconut milk, and some other things in it. She said there is no tradional glass to serve it in, and it is so good, that her family would drink it from a trough!

Dear Rinne,

I hope I feel better, too! The stomach cramps are not bothering me as much today. Considering I have eaten Fritos and gluten-free bread with yeast, that is a surprise. Dad already bought it, so I kind of feel obligated to eat it. It is very good, too! I was surprised.

Sincerely,

Jin

[rinne]

Went looking for something on laughter and found this clip with Dr. Sanjay Gupta talking about laughing yoga. Has anyone heard of this?

It was started by an Indian doctor and is groups of people getting together to laugh. There are no jokes, a sense of humor is not required, people simply get together and laugh. They have discovered that when people laugh they raise their endorphins, bolster their immune system and experience other benefits.

The doctor said that people actually begin to develop a sense of humor through laughing.

It backs up what I was saying about laughter being an expression of wellness and how vital this thread has been in our improvement.

Now if I could only find something on our taste buds having the capacity to discriminate between what is good for us and what isn't.

[tom]

Dear tom,

Mexican is so good! We have a number of restaurants here. I know they are a far cry from Taco Bell.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh that reminded me of one of my all-time favs!! El Zacatecano in Salinas CA. There a Taco Bell right across the street and when telling ppl where to go that was the landmark!

I'd be the only heuro in THAT one almost every time. So authentic, you drank the beer from a little juice glass!

(I concede that it doesn't *seem* like much of an indicator but I' I swear it is)

Our largest event though, is the Fall Festival. It is the second largest street festival in the world next to Mardis Gras!

Who would have thought little old Evansville, Indiana had that? Believe it or not, it is the truth!

I've heard of Evansville for such a long time I didn't think of it as little.

I cannot eat at the festival anymore!

Ow that very 1st time was painful. Rows of food everywhere that was all sample-able last time. Now nothin.

Lisa reminded me of something. I like to watch Daisy Martinez. She has a show called "Daisy Cooks". All kinds of hispanic delicacies are featured. Her heritage is Puerto Rican. . . . .. .

. . . . . .She said there is no tradional glass to serve it in, and it is so good, that her family would drink it from a trough!

Hehe I've watched plenty of Daisy. Her eyes blast out laser beams of enthusiasm.

But I don't think I've ever tried to make anything from her show.

LOL trough! I missed that episode.

[AndreaB]

Now if I could only find something on our taste buds having the capacity to discriminate between what is good for us and what isn't.

[tom]

Went looking for something on laughter and found this clip with Dr. Sanjay Gupta talking about laughing yoga. Has anyone heard of this?

I read something about that! Just the thought of a whole room laughing gets me laughing!!

Now if I could only find something on our taste buds having the capacity to discriminate between what is good for us and what isn't.

I meant to write more last time this came up. It was long ago I read some article tho. Those supertasters had a MUCH higher density of taste buds.

I wonder about how much of the sensation is the sensor vs brain.

There are so many questions!

[NoGluGirl]

Dear tom,

That Mexican restaurant sounds like the best! A good friend of mine from high school lives in Phoenix now. She works for IBM. She said she will never eat Mexican food from here again, because it is so much more authentic there! There are so many terrific things!

I am surprised you ever even heard of my town! I always saw our town as small compared to so many others. Compared to the numerous small towns surrounding it, I suppose it is quite large. As you said, it is quite painful going to the festivals and not being able to eat. Maybe one day Celiacs will have booths at these things!

Oh yes! Daisy definitely has enthusiasm! That is why I like watching her so much! It is too bad you missed that episode! She also told about some neat cultural information. She talked about the tradition of children leaving cigars and beer for the Wise Men, instead of cookies for Santa.

Dear Rinne,

I am a super-taster. I can attest to the fact my tastebuds are quite large. I can see them all on my tongue if I look in the mirror! I think sometimes our tastebuds tell us what is good for us, and what is not. Take for instance, when Carla drinks lemon water to alkalinize her system.

If she does not need it, it tastes sour. When she does need it, the lemon water tastes good. This shows her body, including her tastebuds, are aware of what the body needs. It also knows when it needs it. Mia craving salty foods is another example. She has Lyme, and her body probably knows that it will help kill it off.

The laughing yoga sounds really neat! I know I get the giggles if others do. They really are catching! Isn't that funny?

I was not surprised that there is a connection between laughing and wellness. I have read about it before that laughing boosts immunity.

Sincerely,

Jin

[rinne]

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Doh, dingo'd that last night.

I am a super-taster. I can attest to the fact my tastebuds are quite large. I can see them all on my tongue if I look in the mirror! I think sometimes our tastebuds tell us what is good for us, and what is not. Take for instance, when Carla drinks lemon water to alkalinize her system.

If she does not need it, it tastes sour. When she does need it, the lemon water tastes good. This shows her body, including her tastebuds, are aware of what the body needs. It also knows when it needs it. Mia craving salty foods is another example. She has Lyme, and her body probably knows that it will help kill it off.

Jin, thanks for reminding me about Carla and lemons, further support for my theory.

I wonder if sugar makes taste buds stupid. Well, incapable of discerning whether or not something is good for you.

I think MSG fries your brain. Fifteen years ago I wrote a short article on it (for a local organic newsletter) and at that point they were saying 10% of the population reacted negatively to it, most recently I found they were saying 40% of the population reacts negatively. And yet it is in everything. Even Auxigro, friend of large organic corporations.

I wonder about how much of the sensation is the sensor vs brain.

There are so many questions!

Tom, I wonder too.

MSG is a good example because it actually changes your brain so that you think the food tastes good. I avoid it and have for nearly twenty years, after I learned about all the negative side effects to it.

Last summer though I ate some micro-wave popcorn, starved and no other food available, and my sense is that your taste buds are actually numbed by it and your brain goes more, more, more.

No wonder it is linked to obesity.

[CarlaB]

Jin, thanks for reminding me about Carla and lemons, further support for my theory.

I wonder if sugar makes taste buds stupid. Well, incapable of discerning whether or not something is good for you.

I think sugar does have this effect. It has no value whatsoever. I'm not talking about natural sugars like maple syrup, honey, etc. used in small quantitites.

Sugars distort your taste. To me, a bowl of berries with unsweetened whipped cream tastes sweet. I know many people would not think that. If you're eating sugar, stuff that is naturally sweet doesn't taste very sweet at all.

[Rachel--24]

I am a super-taster. I can attest to the fact my tastebuds are quite large. I can see them all on my tongue if I look in the mirror!

Interesting......my taste buds are huge...I can see them in the mirror too. My taste buds were not always visible though...when I was healthy they were not enlarged like this. I noticed that when I started reacting to foods alot they became quite swollen.

I can still remember one really bad reaction where I actually saw my taste buds swelling on the back of my tongue. That reaction was definately from mold (I was eating bread with ghee) and a thick layer of white coating appeared on my tongue the same time the taste buds were swelling.

Now my taste buds are in a chronic state of "bigness" ...they're always big and very visible on the back of my tongue. I think its a constant reaction to the molds and yeasts in my body + other allergens.

I looked it up once and yeah....I did find that taste buds can swell from allergies.

I dont think its an indicator of "super-tasting"....at least its definately not in my case. For me I think its evidence that I'm a "super-reactor" rather than a "super-taster".

[rinne]

I think sugar does have this effect. It has no value whatsoever. I'm not talking about natural sugars like maple syrup, honey, etc. used in small quantitites.

Sugars distort your taste. To me, a bowl of berries with unsweetened whipped cream tastes sweet. I know many people would not think that. If you're eating sugar, stuff that is naturally sweet doesn't taste very sweet at all.

I think it is worse than having no value because it actually takes nutrients from the body to process it. I agree with you about maple syrup, honey, etc. as you say in small quantities.

I have the same experience with fruit when I am sugar-free, apples can taste almost unbearably sweet.

.....

Now my taste buds are in a chronic state of "bigness" ...they're always big and very visible on the back of my tongue. I think its a constant reaction to the molds and yeasts in my body + other allergens.

I looked it up once and yeah....I did find that taste buds can swell from allergies.

I dont think its an indicator of "super-tasting"....at least its definately not in my case. For me I think its evidence that I'm a "super-reactor" rather than a "super-taster".

Interesting, I would think that is an accurate assessment based on your diet prior to getting ill.

[Rachel--24]

Last summer though I ate some micro-wave popcorn, starved and no other food available, and my sense is that your taste buds are actually numbed by it and your brain goes more, more, more.

MSG actually stimulates the taste buds.....its a flavour enhancer. Food high in natural glutamates stimulate taste buds...(mushrooms, tomatoes, etc.)

MSG stimulates specific receptors located in taste buds such as the amino acid receptor T1R1/T1R3 or other glutamate receptors like the metabotropic receptors (mGluR4 and mGluR1) which induce the taste known as umami, one of the five basic tastes (the word umami is a loanword from Japanese; it is also referred to as "savoury" or "meaty").

There may a fifth taste to add alongside sweet, sour, salty and bitter. It's a mouthful - scientists call it umami.

Two University of Miami researchers say certain taste buds in the mouths of animals react only to monosodium glutamate, or MSG, which is found naturally in almost every food.

So what does it taste like?

The Japanese word umami (pronounced oo-MOM'-ee) is difficult to translate, but many people use it for ``delicious'' or even ``yummy.'' It imparts a sort of meat-like flavor.

The food industry has known for years that adding MSG to snacks and meals makes you want to eat more - more chips anyone? Until now, scientists didn't know why.

The researchers, Nirupa Chaudhari and Stephen Roper, said Friday that if you always want a second helping of tomatoes, grapefruit, potatoes, apples, oranges and mushrooms, it is probably because they have plenty of glutamates. Many pet foods are loaded with it.

MSG, a salt form of the amino acid glutamate, was blamed at least as far back as the 1960s for various health problems and even death. The government in 1995 declared it safe for almost everyone to eat.

For clarification....MSG is not the same as natural occuring glutamates in food. Its processed from foods that are naturally high in glutamate. Natural occuring glutamates dont have the same health risks that the man-made MSG does.

Glutamate is also natural occuring in the body....the body usually has no problems metabolizing glutamate. MSG is different....its a neurotoxin and can damage nerve cells.

Many scientists believe that MSG stimulates glutamate receptors in the tongue to augment meat-like flavors.

Asians originally used a seaweed broth to obtain the flavor- enhancing effects of MSG, but today MSG is made by a fermenting process using starch, sugar beets, sugar cane, or molasses.

Glutamate itself is in many living things: It is found naturally in our bodies and in protein-containing foods, such as cheese, milk, meat, peas, and mushrooms.

[Rachel--24]

Interesting, I would think that is an accurate assessment based on your diet prior to getting ill.

Yeah...I prefered "dead" food....completely void of all things nutritious.

Dont think I'm a super taster....plus I'm not a picky eater....I'll eat almost anything (except Quinoa ). I think my taste buds are "super-big" now though.

[rinne]

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As of June 13, 2002, AuxiGro was registered for use in California on tomatoes, almonds, apricots, cherries, plums, nectarines, peaches, prunes, grapes (including grapes to be used in wine), and onions. At that time, the California Department of Pesticide Regulation said they were not aware of any testing of AuxiGro for use on other crops. They also said that they did not have any proposals presently in house to register additional crops for AuxiGro. It would appear, however, that what the CDPR said was not true, for the CDPR subsequently announced that Emerald BioAgriculture had applied for permission to use AuxiGro on tomatoes (new use), and on melons (new crop) -- and, to the best of our knowledge, approval is always preceded by field testing.

Now wouldn't you think that a company called Emerald BioAgriculture would be producing lovely healthy produce?

We, you and I and every citizen in the world is being systematically poisoned for the profit of a few and even when we try to create healthier ways to live those ways are corrupted by the greed of the same few.

Some years ago when we had our small organic garden farm the reality of this almost destroyed me. I was in a constant state of rage and grief for our great stupidity as a species.

Then one day I thought, well once there were dinosaurs and now they are gone, perhaps in the future the insects will kick back with their chemical cocktails and toast us, the human species that created a planet perfect for them.

Rachel, my experience of MSG on my tongue is a zapping sensation, my tongue feels slightly swollen and burning, my taste buds have gone into shock at that point. Truly, I didn't taste anything other than salt and grease, my mind though went into kind of zombie like state of shovelling the popcorn in.

I think MSG is sold as a "flavour enhancer" but that doesn't make it true. I think that it is more than a flavour enhancer if it is affecting the cortex of the brain and causing a long list of health problems for people.

[dlp252]

Donna,

Do u know if music groups perform each Dec wkend or just Xmas? I would've guessed more than Xmas but I wouldn't want to set the over/under. (Ok who's gambling literate??

I think it's pretty much throughout December. I know we've performed there as early as the 14th or so of December...and I don't think that was the first day it was opened. We usually sing on weeknights as opposed to weekend nights, although I do think one time we sang on a Friday or Saturday night.

No one ever called me an amateur botanist but aren't some plants fine w/ taking a piece (aaaaargh I think I know what term I want to use, but it's stuck) that'll grow into a full, cleaner plant?

Not a graft is it? I was thinking something else.

That would feel like the same plant to me.

Cutting... yes, I actually have done that, but put up the face because, I never did plant it...it's just sitting in a glass of water getting all slimey. Probably full of mold.

I guess Donna would be one example. Her ART results clearly identified Lyme as a main factor in her illness....she wasnt convinced (cant blame her...I was pretty surprised with her results too )

She got the Dr. to order the lab tests.....and sure enough she tested positive for Lyme.

Yep, this is exactly what happened. I started suspecting lyme early on in this thread when someone posted a link to 75 or so symptoms...I have or have had 47 of them!

I started going to the BioSET place for the electrodermal testing basically to see if I could have lyme before spending the money on bloodwork and expensive doctors, lol. They tested me on my first visit, but didn't find anything related to lyme. Bug bites and insects kept coming up in my testing, so they tested me a second time for lyme a couple of months later and still didn't find lyme.

So basically I gave up that idea, and went back to thinking metals and candida were my problems. I decided to try ART to see which one of them was causing the majority of my problems...I felt like I was going back and forth trying to self treat, and I needed to know which one to focus on.

In that first ART session, he said that Lyme was my main problem and it was affecting my thyroid. I was extremely skeptical! I mean, BioSET didn't find it and it had been so accurate in everything else. Still, the ART practitioner suggested I get blood work to confirm it. So I did, and indeed, the bloodwork came back positive for IgG exposure, and some INDs on the IgM.

Apparently BioSET didn't find it because I am not sensitized to it...maybe because the IgG is more of a "past" exposure or long term exposure...I don't know, but if I hadn't had ART done, I would have not known about the lyme and would still be no closer to knowing what was wrong with me.

A bonus to all that was that the doctor I saw for the lyme tested me for all kinds of things...not just lyme, and of course also found that I have mold toxicity.

So, I still don't understand HOW it works, and don't really care anymore, lol, but I just know it was enough to get me in to the doctor...maybe even to disprove it...

Wow, where did that post come from...me queen of two line posts.

The only water I've been drinking is Penta water (which is really expensive) or distilled water. I dont like Whole Foods brand distilled water cuz I can taste the chemicals from the plastic. I've been using Arrowhead and tastes pretty clean to me.

Must make mental note of this.

Actually BioSET isnt muscle testing....its energetic testing using computerized equipment.....(electromagnetic testing with an EAV device).

ART is a form of muscle testing.

Egads, of course it is. I actually knew that, but must have had a mental fart or something.

What about fresh flowers?

Well, I don't think mold is necessarily a huge problem there, but I have problems with them in general...my eyes burn when someone has them too close to my desk. I'll have to ask my allergist for sure, but I thought the mold was mainly in the soil...could be wrong though.

I wonder if sugar makes taste buds stupid. Well, incapable of discerning whether or not something is good for you.

This theory works for me and I'm going to run with it!

[rinne]

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Headache specialist Dr. David Buchholz is certain that MSG causes migraines for literally millions of people:

Buchholz said, "That's exactly right. It's an excitotoxin, and it turns on this headache mechanism and makes you hurt like heck."

An excitotoxin is any substance that overexcites cells to the point of damage -- it acts as a toxin.

And there may be more to this public poison.

MSG can directly worsen autism, attention deficit disorder, and hyperactivity.

And MSG can cause the brain to be miswired, especially in the womb and the first few years of life.

That damage to brain connections can mess up nearly any aspect of brain function, from the control of hormones to behavior and intelligence.

That's what happens with infant mice.

After being fed MSG, they show no signs of mental damage -- until they're older and began to fail at complex tasks.

Bluntly put, they become stupid.

And humans are five times more sensitive to MSG than mice -- infants even more so. Blaylock believes the entire education system suffers as a result, even the ability to for students to get along with each other.

Blaylock said, "So the brain is still forming its connections, particularly the most important social part of our brain, the prefrontal cortex, continues up to age 25, 26, even 27."

But what about MSG's impact on brain afflictions in older adults?

Blaylock says MSG may only be a contributing factor in starting brain diseases, but it definitely can make major neurological afflictions worse:

- Alzheimer's disease

- ALS, sometimes called Lou Gehrig's disease

- Multiple Sclerosis

- Strokes

- Parkinson's disease.

They all involve excitotoxins doing harm.

Blaylock has written the only book on excitotoxins for the general public. He has updated that information in a book on health and nutrition secrets.

He says the key is staying away from MSG, but that's not as easy as it sounds.

"It's in all sorts of commercially processed food products that wouldn't taste like much if they didn't have this flavor enhancer added to them," Dr. Buchholz said. "And it's not always labeled as MSG or monosodium glutamate. It's labeled as hydrolyzed protein or natural flavors, and you'd never suspect it."

But Strouss does suspect it -- he and his wife have learned the names that hide MSG

[dlp252]

Okay, why the stupid heck am I craving corn chips and lays potato chips. Not salt in general, but specifically those two things. Sheesh!

[mftnchn]

I'm so sorry. Were your symptoms completely gone when you went off abx before? How long were they gone?

Symptoms were gone for quite a long time, actually. Pretty much gone by the 2nd or 3rd year of treatment but would return immediately when I tried to cut back abx, happened several times. After adding cat's claw gradually cut back on abx with no problems until went totally off last February (over 2 years). Then no symptoms until mid May.

I am just wondering if going gluten-free has upset the whole balance, or if it is just coincidence as it would probably come back anyway.

Oh well, I'm back on for now! Hoping the herx won't be too bad!

[tom]

I wonder if sugar makes taste buds stupid. Well, incapable of discerning whether or not something is good for you.

This may be a spot where that fine word "masking" may be applicable.

(Uhoh I'm confusing myself trying to get a pun involving Halloween treats)

[CarlaB]

Julie, wow, it didn't last long off them, did it? At least on them you feel fine! I'm sure it won't take long to get to that point again.

Does your LLMD go after all three forms of the bacteria at once? Mine does, three different meds (two abx and one cyst buster). It makes sense because the bacteria has no chance of getting away.

Did he have you do things to stregthen your immune system? Mine believes that meds are only the first step, then you have to get your immune system built up to handle the rest.

What about coinfections? Babesia is the one I've been dealing with. The borrelia can hide behind the babs, so if the babs isn't treated the Lyme can come back.

I'm just mentioning that so maybe there's something there that will help you be able to get off abx more successfully next time. I'm sure that with dealing with this so much longer than I, you probably know this stuff better than I do.

I think the only way gluten-free might have upset your balance is if the bacteria was dormant and with going gluten-free your own immune system kicked in ... then realized the bacteria was there which stirred things up.

Donna, sometimes when I need salt I crave certain things ... usually it's plain potato chips. I think it's specific items for me because they're things that don't upset my stomach. I think I generally need the fat/calories as well, so it's always fatty/salty food.

[AndreaB]

We, you and I and every citizen in the world is being systematically poisoned for the profit of a few and even when we try to create healthier ways to live those ways are corrupted by the greed of the same few.

I hate that too. I've fought with this in my head. I figure organic is still better than conventional because you aren't getting as many poisons.

It shouldn't have to come down to that, but it has.

Wow, where did that post come from...me queen of two line posts.

You did quite good! If you're the queen of two line posts then I'm the queen of one line posts.

[dlp252]

Donna, sometimes when I need salt I crave certain things ... usually it's plain potato chips. I think it's specific items for me because they're things that don't upset my stomach. I think I generally need the fat/calories as well, so it's always fatty/salty food.

Well, I can't imagine it's the fat or calories with me! I get plenty o'that, lol! I tend to eat between 1800 and 2000 calories a day and usually about 50% of that is fat. Also hard to imagine it's salt because I also eat TONS of salt...not just any kind of salt, but at work I use Celtic Sea Salt which has a bunch of minerals and stuff, at home I use sea salt on my food and also have been using the Himalayan Salt in my supplement shakes at night. I literally coat my food with salt. I am not joking either.

It can't be the potatoe or the corn cuz otherwise I would crave one more than the other I'd think.

[dlp252]

Okay Tom, what's the new avatar of?? Did I miss THAT discussion too!? I thought I read everything carefully this morning, but didn't get much sleep last night, so maybe not as carefully as I thought!

[tom]

I did something an hr ago that has to be pretty rare. Out of newspaper I wanted to read, I was reading this thread while on the toilet! (expected scatology alert!!)

I'm not one to bring electronics into the bathroom at ALL in the 1st place. The way I see it, only those who *NEVER* bring these things thru the bathroom door will never end up standing there, dejectedly looking down, deciding "yes, I do want that back badly enough". LOL

:lol: :lol:

[tom]

I have the same experience with fruit when I am sugar-free, apples can taste almost unbearably sweet.

I'll never forget, after going >1.5 yrs w/ 0 sweeteners - not even a deemed-too-sweet carrot, the 1st basic everyday red bell pepper I had tasted like CANDY!!

LMAO I could never have imagined such a thing.

And the pre-sickness me reading this would think it was written by some complete nut who's full of . . . . .goosepoop.