Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[dlp252]

The OCD stuff is also interesting...I have a bit of that myself. Not severe, but little things...like having to close the cabinet doors if I'm heating my lunch at work. Straightening things that are out of alignment (saw Scott doing this in the waiting room at BioSET and he actually made a joke about it, and I said that if he hadn't done it I probably would have if I looked at it long enough ). He was coming from a sales point of view...I was coming from somewhere else. I straighten up magazines in doctors offices (but I can avoid this if I just don't look at them, lol). So why the heck is my house a wreck!

Anyways...even if things go really well with Scott's appt. tomorrow and I dont go up there for LED treatments...you can bet I'll be going there eventually.

Even after I get better I'm still gonna be wanting to be involved and to be learning. I'd love to go to a Dr. K. seminar at some point.

Yeah, I'd like to do both of these someday!

And, you would be right to think that I need to get a life.

No, that would mean we all would.

Did you send out an email yet? If so, I didn't get it.

Me either.

I'm not talking about emotions. I'm talking about thoughts. Pure energy.

I'd say that sounds very reasonable. I'm having a much healthier respect of how "energy" affects us since starting BioSET and ART.

It does affect my illness and when I stay away from the situation I'm doing alot better.

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So does anyone think this is possible for me? That I may have been sensitive to mercury but never having been exposed to such large amounts I was fine until I was dealing with a major galvanic reaction?

I dont just have mercury in my system...I have an assortment of metals that would have been pulled from the crowns and fillings during the galvanic reaction.

See, I think this is why Dr. S is so concerned about my job. I think he knows that the stress will affect my ability to recover as well as I might otherwise do without the stress...not only stress though...it's just the whole negative thing that happens around the stress.

I think what you say makes sense for you and probably me too. 1990s is when I started having all my amalgams redrilled. Every time the dentist would replace one, the darned tooth would end up cracking, then I'd have to have it redrilled again for the gold crown. I also had a lot of the galvanic reaction stuff...some shock, but not a lot...mostly the metallic taste and excess saliva which appears to be gone now that I've had all the amalgams out.

I just wonder why I tolerate popcorn, tortilla chips, kernel corn, but not creamed corn? It was gluten-free for sure. Why is it so difficult to digest? Or, I could be developing new sensitivities. Just what I need! Stupid Leaky-Gut!

I think even if they don't use dairy to thicken the creamed corn, I think they use something like cornstarch to thicken don't they? Maybe it's whatever they use to thicken it unless they just puree some corn. :unsure"=:

Sorry you're in so much pain.

[CarlaB]

I didn't mean that Lyme is a huge issue, I meant that with everything you were doing, including the Lyme, smoking, diet, etc., your immune system was working overtime to handle all of these things. You looked good because it was taking care of it ALL. But one more thing, and your bucket overflowed.

Maybe if we were all fat, we wouldn't have these problems at all. It's the overweight Americans who look sick, though that's not always true, they're not all sick (though I think many of them feel bad). They have the fat to hide the toxins in, yet when we're exposed to them without that "protection" we get sick.

Who knows, just another random thought.

I always looked healthy, too. Still do. Great skin, well, I'm not 18 anymore, but still good ... healthy hair, nails, etc. But I'm sick.

Hmmm, most people with Lyme gain weight though. But then again, is that their body protecting themself? Like Donna losing weight now that health issues are being handled better.

[dlp252]

Hmmm, most people with Lyme gain weight though. But then again, is that their body protecting themself? Like Donna losing weight now that health issues are being handled better.

Interesting. You've seen from some of the avatars I've posted, how skinny I was most of my life...but the last 10-12 years or so, I've really struggled with weight. At one point I put on 50 pounds...got that off, and it's stayed off (except last year I gained 7 pounds), but it was hard, and I struggled with every pound. That's why I always thought I had a thyroid problem...the weight issue, the hair loss, etc. It's interesting now to me that Scott says the lyme mainly affects my thyroid, but the thyroid itself is okay...I've had thorough testing of it and the thyroid antibodies.

I accidentally took a double dose of chlorella yesterday AND the day before that I took a double dose of the Banderol by mistake. So along with the detox and stuff...I'm subconsiously (apparently) trying to hurry the process along.

[UR Groovy]

I read that eating too many eggs can cause Albumin in the kidneys. I am not sure if it poses a danger, however. I would like to pursue more research on that. It will be interesting. There is bound to be a reported cause of it somewhere!

The information you have on peptides is very fascinating! Where did you learn this? I agree that emotions can have severe negative effects on your health. The actual energy can harm. My faith is very aware of how energy can hurt or help you.

Dear Jin,

Sorry you're having a rough day gastrically.

You may be right about the albumin thing. I've just never heard of that before, so it was a pretty foreign concept to me. I just don't know.

The neural peptide / energy / mind-body connection was something I got kind of fascinated with a few years ago - before I knew I had any body issues. It started with a movie/documentary of sorts - "What the Bleep Do We Know". It's a bunch of neurologists, physicists, etc. yappin' about quantum physics and theories about matter and energy and stuff. But, the neurology and how energy is displaced is the really interesting part to me - cause and effect. Not that what I said came directly from the documentary. I started reading stuff on the net, but haven't really "researched" it - I'm not as scientific as you folks. I was just reading for pleasure and stimulation, so I don't really have any specific sources. I haven't really thought about it in some time, actually.

[Mtndog]

I suspect with me- because I have had little to no dental work - that what happened in the long run was that my sr year in college (1989) I went through a horrible break-up that started with a car accident!

That summer I lived on Cape Cod and wasn't taking very good care of myself (drinking a lot, very bummed out). The Cape is notorious for Lyme and when I returned to my parents to start working in Boston- I had a COMPLETE meltdown. The severity of the depression and anxiety that I went through did not in any way seem to be appropriate to the grieving I was going through. I suspect I was first exposed to Lyme then.

I think I may have had neuro-Lyme but Lyme was not a big deal back then. Far less awareness about it. Shortly thereafter my neck and back freaked out (lots of PT got me back but tons of pain). I don't think anyone ever connected the dots- my psychiatrist and every therapist I have ever seen have said I am the most clear cut biological case of depression- it just doesn't fit me.

Then I think my body had been through a lot through the years- got rebit by a tick and my body was under duress from my mom's death and that was it- celiac kicked off and then I declined pretty rapidly.

[AndreaB]

Reading right along.

Took me forever to catch up and now I need to get Seth down.

Every treatment we go through we are trying to keep the computer off most of the time during the detox period. That's part of the protocol.

Donna, trying to Rachel your meds/supps now are you.

Jin, sorry you're feeling bad today.

Rachel, a lot of what you say makes sense. We know the galvanic reaction brought you down, what we don't know is if you would have been able to detox normal amounts of metals. Most people have metals causing some problems, although they may not be obvious. Metals are everywhere, as you know.

I haven't got Laura's email either so I assume she hasn't been able to get it out yet.

Bev, Hope you get over this herx soon. Try and listen to the link that Rachel posted from Dr. Klinghardt. It's very interesting. I listened to it last night.

Carla, I'll look forward to your new avatar when you get it up. Glad the whey protein has helped you to feel better.

Hi! to everyone else.

Our friend Susan is resting and relaxing at a friends at the beach.....where it is supposed to be much cooler.

[Rachel--24]

I didn't mean that Lyme is a huge issue, I meant that with everything you were doing, including the Lyme, smoking, diet, etc., your immune system was working overtime to handle all of these things. You looked good because it was taking care of it ALL. But one more thing, and your bucket overflowed.

I'm just thinking that even if my bucket had been totally empty...no Lyme...no cigarettes....healthy diet, etc...the galvanic reaction would caused the bucket to overflow anyway.

I dont think of it as one more drop in the bucket....I think of it as a HUGE portion of the bucket. The daily exposure we all get from one amalgam greatly exceeds the limit of what is considered to be safe in water or air.

The levels of mercury being released during galvanic reaction are extremely high....the highest amount you could ever possibly be exposed to through dentistry. My book says its an extremely dangerous situation and each day this situation remains uncorrected the danger increases.

The electrical currents are literally drawing out large amounts of mercury and other metals from not only the amalgams but the gold crowns as well...its a situation can can destroy someones health all by itself.

I think all of the evidence points to this since I was not sick prior to the galvanic reaction...the Lyme infection has pretty much been ruled out as a major player and the tests are all showing that the metals are hugely stressing my ANS....with the molds/yeasts adding to it.

The yeast/mold situation pretty much exploded as soon as I started getting sick from the galvanic reaction. It goes right along with the theory of the immune system using these microbes to absorb the metals and protect the body.

The yeast and molds are the most capable of absorbing the metals...and yeast is already present in the body...the immune system allows it to overgrow to protect the body from furthur damage from the metals.

Other microbes in the body...including Lyme can also be bound to mercury in the same way....but yeast/molds seems to be the most effective and also the most available.....since yeasts and molds are basically everywhere.

I'm sure the Lyme in my head is serving a similar purpose...there is just not nearly as much of it....its not able to grow like the yeast is.

I think with galvanic reaction it has alot to do with the exact location of the metals and the flow of electrical currents. I think in my mouth it was a very effective battery-like charge continuing to flow between these metals. Also I think the dentist left some amalgam underneath one of the gold crowns and thats the location where I had the most symptoms coming from.

Thats the crown that kept getting somehow "forced" out of position by who knows what. I had to go back every couple weeks to have it fixed. Thats the crown that had hot "gases" or vapors coming out all around it.... I could feel the heat and taste the vapors.

Thats the same tooth that ended up getting a root canal which did nothing to fix the problem....and thats the tooth that ended up getting extracted because noone could figure out what was going on with that area. Thats the same side of my face that had trigemial neuralgia like pains and that side of my mouth was lopsided for awhile.

I dont think I've ever read anything to suggest that some people might be able to handle this kind of galvanic reaction. I think I would have gotten sick regardless of anything else....I think it was enough to fill up even an empty bucket....and in a short time.

Mercury isnt just another stressor....it actually damages the cells, the organs, the brain, the ANS, the detox pathways....anything that it comes into contact with. I think it could have done significant damage all on its own.....given the fact that there was so much exposure in such a short time.

Maybe if we were all fat, we wouldn't have these problems at all. It's the overweight Americans who look sick, though that's not always true, they're not all sick (though I think many of them feel bad). They have the fat to hide the toxins in, yet when we're exposed to them without that "protection" we get sick.

I always think the really thin people look sick ....I tend to think the heavier people look more healthy and have a healthier glow.

Of course its not always true but most of the people I think look unhealthy are actually thin and pale.

[dlp252]

Andrea - oh so interesting that part of the protocol involves the computer...EMFs. I think about that lately as I sit here for 9 hours every day.

Donna, trying to Rachel your meds/supps now are you.

Hey, if I can't rachel the nut butters, chocolate bumble bars or bananas, might as well rachel the meds/supps.

Thanks for the info on Susan...I've been thinking of her...glad she's at the Beach...it's been HOT here!!!! Supposed to be hot tomorrow to and I'm going to a flea market. Yikes...hope my sunblock works well.

[Rachel--24]

Rachel, a lot of what you say makes sense. We know the galvanic reaction brought you down, what we don't know is if you would have been able to detox normal amounts of metals. Most people have metals causing some problems, although they may not be obvious. Metals are everywhere, as you know.

Yeah...I guess I would have to assume I was able to detox normal amounts of metals....so probably no genetic defects. I never got sick from any vaccs...I never got sick from anything else as far as I know and I never had allergies, chemical sensitivities or food intolerances....not a single one.

Of course its a different story now but only following the galvanic reaction and explosion of candida.

I did feel "off" after the fillings were drilled out unsafely....but I did seem to recover from it...at least to the point that I wasnt aware of anything being wrong. When I went on my camping trip I drank and smoked and felt fine. It was weeks later that the crowns got put in.

I think *any* amount of mercury causes problems and I do think that we all have plenty of it.....but the galvanic reaction was far too much to bear....its WAY exceeding anything that could be considered normal exposure. I'm sure there were problems from mercury prior to that....they just werent obvious....like you said.

I dont think there was significant damage due to the fact that I had no environmental sensitivities, allergies or intolerances....no other symptoms either.

[dlp252]

I'm just thinking that even if my bucket had been totally empty...no Lyme...no cigarettes....healthy diet, etc...the galvanic reaction would caused the bucket to overflow anyway.

I dont think of it as one more drop in the bucket....I think of it as a HUGE portion of the bucket. The daily exposure we all get from one amalgam greatly exceeds the limit of what is considered to be safe in water or air.

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dont think I've ever read anything to suggest that some people might be able to handle this kind of galvanic reaction. I think I would have gotten sick regardless of anything else....I think it was enough to fill up even an empty bucket....and in a short time.

I don't know...there are so many people who are walking around who aren't sick from it though...so what's different...does it go back to what you were saying about genetics? Or are those people just able to handle it better somehow. I mean, I think I started getting sick after I started having my amalgams redrilled and then crowned, but I know lots of people who have crowns with amalgams and they aren't sick. They may have a few issues, but NOTHING like what we're going through here.

Not disagreeing with you at all, but just wondering why some of us get so sick and others don't.

[Rachel--24]

I always looked healthy, too. Still do. Great skin, well, I'm not 18 anymore, but still good ... healthy hair, nails, etc. But I'm sick.

I might appear healthy to other people but I noticed big changes in the weeks following the placement of my crowns. My skin color changed, my little cuts and scratches werent healing, my eyes looked a little sunken, my hair was falling out, I had red spots on my skin that burned, etc.

Even though there are periods of improvement nothing has returned to normal. Those changes ocurred almost immediately after the crowns got put in. So yeah...I was definately being poisoned but just didnt know it.

[AndreaB]

Andrea - oh so interesting that part of the protocol involves the computer...EMFs. I think about that lately as I sit here for 9 hours every day.

If you go through LED at some point you will need to do the treatment on a Friday so you can avoid the computer for 25 hours afterwards. They have quite the list of electric/electronic stuff to avoid.

There is something available that you can put on your CPU and monitor. Forget the name of it. I'll have to try and remember to look at that folder when I'm up in Bellevue on Monday. There is also a necklace type thing this guy invented that serves the same purpose.

Not disagreeing with you at all, but just wondering why some of us get so sick and others don't.

I don't know either. I know my family has a lot of intolerances cropping up but we aren't as sick as you guys are......yet, and I hope I can safely say we won't be since we are going through treatments. Hoping I'll have money to go through next year along with my teeth. May run out of funds before hand but it's so important to me to go through both around the same time, although I don't know that I'd be able to go through any LED's with my amalgams. Hopefully the sulfa pathway if it's blocked anyway.

Just go through reading an article Dr. E emailed me. It says that most people go through 5-10 LED sessions on the first round then around 10 after that. I'm adding those up and hoping the Micah truly doesn't have much of a problem. We are hoping to combine some of them, but we also have the situation were some may not take. Also read that the drops for children are normally around 4 2x daily. Talitha needs to be worked up to 7 drops 3x daily. This one doctor says adults are normally 8 drops (sometimes more, or less) 2x daily. The procedure tells how many drops to do. I just don't know how they figure on 2 or 3 x daily.

Talked to Mitch's ex yesterday and she wanted us to send more than we originally agreed with. I told her we have our own health expenses to deal with and that's already stretching us.

[Rachel--24]

Not disagreeing with you at all, but just wondering why some of us get so sick and others don't.

Just having the dissimilar metals doesnt necessarily guarantee a strong galvanic reaction....I think it depends on the electrical currents. I know that mine was strong because there was a strong force drawing those teeth together....like a constant pull on my jaw.

There was also the excessive drooling....I'm not talking about a little increase in saliva....I'm talking totally soaked head and pillow every night...from drool....and having to swallow constantly all day long. I couldnt eat with metal silverware because it would create big shocks in my mouth if the utensil happened to touch any of the metals in my mouth. I had the severe shocks and pain on my face, etc.

Not everyone experiences galvanic reaction to that degree....which would obviously indicate a strong electrical current...hence alot of mercury being drawn from the fillings.

There are specific symptoms related to galvanic reaction...if the symptoms arent there...then I would tend to think the problem isnt too severe....although I still dont think its safe for anyone in the long run.

My reaction became obvious enough to me that I googled "gold crowns" along with some of my symptoms because I eventually realized whatever was going on seemed to be related to the crowns....and the symptoms were coming from something going on in my mouth.

I could taste and feel the heat of the gases being omitted from the one tooth....I think that clearly is not normal.

Some people actually can get radio reception in their mouth from galvanic reaction....and they get very sick. Obviously that doesnt happen to everyone so I think it has alot to do with the electrical currents that are produced and how they are traveling....and not just the fact that someone might have two different metals in their mouth.

Also not everyone is sensitive to the metals....some people are hypersensitive....others not as sensitive. Most people are "allergic" to some of these metals being in the body...if theres ALOT of metals and alot of sensitivity....then theres alot of stress on the system.

If theres alot of mercury overwhelming the system....then theres gonna be problems.....no matter what.

I dont think that just because someone has two different metals...they are experiencing a strong galvanic reaction. From what I experienced....you would know it....even if not right away...you would *know* that something isnt right with the metals.

If not for the Dr.'s telling me the problems were coming from my thyroid...I'm sure I would have figured it out sooner.

I dont think everyone is having such a strong reaction because of the currents...the stronger the currents...the more those fillings/crowns are corroding and those metals are released directly into the system. Also the sensitivity factor....if I was particularly sensitive to any of those metals it would have placed a higher burden on my immune system.

And then there is the obvious explosion of candida....and I can actually pinpoint this....I know when those symptoms of candida came on strong....only I didnt realize it was candida at that time. I dont think that explosion of yeast would have occured had it not been for the fact that large amounts of mercury were being released into my system.

I think small burdens can pile up on each other....and sometimes there is just huge burdens that noone can overcome. I do think genetics plays a role in everything.....but I also think too much mercury in a short time would make *anyone* sick.

I have never read or heard that some people can tolerate *any* amount of mercury and not be affected by it....it affects everyone to some degree.

Theres plenty of people who get sick from mercury and other heavy metals and never even had these things in their mouth.

Also....I dont think your situation is the same as mine...our ART and BioSET results are not showing the same picture. We didnt get sick in the same way either.....yours was a slow decline in health over a period of some years.....mine was a rapid decline which occured in a few weeks time.

Its clearly different....you've had ongoing allergies...I never had any....you have some virus involvement...I dont....theres alot of differences.

Things dont happen in the same way for everyone. There is nothing in my body showing up that could possibly have led to this kind of illness....other than the metals....which show up very prominently.

The genetic part could still weigh in...I dont really know....I'm sure it will be looked into at some point.

I'm on treatments more related to how they deal with the autistic kids and theres alot of focus on my pathways and the metals. Even though we see the same Dr.'s our treatments arent all that similar.

I cant look at someone else and ask why they didnt get sick like this even if they have gold and amalgam.....all I know is that this is what happened to me....this was my experience and now I have to deal with it.

I cant say well that person got sick from Lyme and I also have Lyme so I must be sick from Lyme too....it just doesnt work that way. Everyone is different and what affects one person may not affect the next person. The metals affected me...the Lyme didnt.

I now have to treat the Lyme....just like those who are sick from the Lyme now have to treat the metals if they want the best chance for recovery.

[Rachel--24]

I don't know...there are so many people who are walking around who aren't sick from it though...so what's different...does it go back to what you were saying about genetics? Or are those people just able to handle it better somehow. I mean, I think I started getting sick after I started having my amalgams redrilled and then crowned, but I know lots of people who have crowns with amalgams and they aren't sick. They may have a few issues, but NOTHING like what we're going through here.

Also....theres alot of people walking around who can eat gluten and dairy...but you cant. There can be a million different reasons why that is....but in the end.....you still cant eat those things.

You think you might have gotten sick after the dental work but you dont really *know*. Can you say you were 100% healthy before that? Did you have allergies or other symptoms before that?

I think for you different things may have contributed....you had some traumatic things occur in your life and your symptoms didnt come on very suddenly.....that indicates something different from what Dr. Amy told me.

When things develop slowly off and on for a number of years there is usually a multitude of things piling up. When things happen very suddenly it may be that the system was overwhelmed by one thing but then other things which may have never been a problem can *become* a problem as a result.....like the candida/mold issue in my case.

So again...I dont think we can compare ourselves to people who are healthy because none of us are the same person....and our genetics are completely different.

Dont forget about the environmental conditions as well....the EMF's, geopathic stressors, mold in the home or workplace.....all those things add up over time and can push someone into chronic illness.

[Rachel--24]

Donna...this probably answers your question better than I ever could.

Virtually everyone reacts to the presence of mercury.

This universal reaction, however, is not easily seen in all people who have mercury-silver fillings. Only some people react strongly enough to require medical help. Unfortunately, this medical help is usually unsuccessful as long as mercury remains in the body.

While some people show very little outward reaction to mercury, even minimal contamination can affect your health.

Recent research by the Toxic Element Research Foundation (TERF) indicates that at least 67% of the test subjects showed a measurable systemic reactivity with mercury and its components as might be expected in patients with amalgam. Patient reactions to the mercury, however, varied.

Some experienced only a slight change in their immune system. This might result in three colds per winter instead of two, or an elevation of 2000-3000 in their white blood cell count. The more highly reactive patient, however, could become totally incapacitated with neurologic, cardiac, gastrointestinal or immune complications resulting from the effects of mercury in the body.

The point is that mercury should not be placed in the mouth- even just a few percent (let alone 67%) of the population react adversely.

Some people can have a single imbalance and be immobilised, while others may have ten imbalances and just have chronic fatigue as a result.

The effects of mercury and other dental toxins will vary from one person to another on the basis of genetic make up, the environment in which they live and additional contributions which have been made by exposure to other toxic materials such as lead, arsenic and cadmium.

It should be kept in mind that if the diagnosis of dental toxicity was a simple matter, the subject in all likelihood, would have been more thoroughly documented years ago. Many of the examinations and testing procedures used and developed have become available only in the past five years or so.

Because of the continuing research efforts, active intervention and participation in the field of dental materials and clinical investigations, it is expected that many new and important testing and treatment methods will yet be added to our programme in the future.

[Rachel--24]

Heres more..

Recent material received from the ADA (Australian Dental Association) shows that they cannot furnish evidence of compatibility of mercury in the oral cavity.

That is not surprising, since mercury and all of its components are toxic.

In the past, the dental profession has held the position that mercury does not come out of amalgam fillings.

The claim is readily dispelled by simply having a patient who has mercury-silver restorations (amalgams) chew vigorously for a few minutes and then analysing the air in that patient's mouth with a mercury vapour detector. We consistently find when we perform this test SIGNIFICANT mercury vapour levels. Whether the filling is one or ten years old, the amount of vapour detected is frequently in the hazardous range.

This is not a new discovery. For instance, even in 1949, Dr Ralph Phillips published the results of studying 100 fillings at random. Age was not a factor in the study.

He found mercury contents in fillings ranged from 24.95% up to 64.95%. Newly placed amalgams are currently made with an average of 52% pure mercury although amalgams in the past were sometimes made with an even greater percentage of mercury.

But the 24.95% noted by Dr Phillips is at least a 50% decreases from the amount of mercury in those fillings when they were originally made.

Where did the mercury go, and if it became absorbed into the body, what impact does it have on your health?"

As mercury is released from your amalgam fillings, it tends to react with your body chemicals and bacteria to form various toxic mercurials. By far the most dangerous is methylmercury, which can be formed by several different mechanisms and incorporated into your body. Once incorporated, this methylmercury has adverse effects on neurological, cardiac, vascular, digestive, endocrine and other tissues.

What happens to the mercury in your fillings after it it released from the amalgam.

Many things.

It can go into the nasal sinus and subsequently into the brain, or it might be absorbed into the blood through the lungs or within the mouth. In addition, mercury could be further modified and bound into complex molecules for absorption within the stomach and gastrointestinal tract.

Once absorbed into the body, the mercury tends to concentrate and bind to certain selective 'target tissues'. This contributes to the development of a variety of disease manifestations.

One of the most tragic problems from this concentration process comes when the mercury which is bound to red blood cells exchanges and crosses the placental barrier, where it concentrates as much as 30% higher in foetal blood than in mother's blood.

What diseases do those who react develop?

Briefly, there are five divisions of diseases that we have seen improve with Total Dental Revision.

1. Neurological - including emotional responses such as depression, anxiety and irritability as well as neural effects such as facial twitches, muscle spasms, epilepsy and multiple sclerosis.

2. Cardiovascular - unexplained rapid heart rate and / or unidentified chest pains.

3. Collagen diseases - such as arthritis, scleroderma and lupis.

4. Immunologic - lowering the body's defence system capacity and the viability of white blood cells.

5. Allergies and fatigue - mercury can alter chemistries so that some people become sensitive to foods and chemicals.

Electrical current with the power to destroy

Two dissimilar metals in a saliva environment will produce electrical current by galvanic action, and become a battery of sorts. The five metals frequently found in most amalgam formulations produce an even more complex battery. The electrical currents produced by amalgam are far greater in magnitude than the sensitive electrical currents the brain operates on, and are far greater than the current that activates acupuncture meridians.

[Rachel--24]

I still think there is enough evidence and documentation out there to suggest that mercury can cause significant health problems all on its own and in a reasonably healthy body....particularly when other metals are present and having a synergystic effect with the mercury.

You dont need to have a Lyme infection...you dont need to have emotional issues....you dont need to have anything else going on to get sick from mercury.

However, once you do get sick...you get infections and other problems as a direct result of the metals.

This is why Dr. K. says that the metals are at the *root* of almost ALL chronic illnesses.

If a little bit of metals built up over alot of years can cause alot of problems....what can ALOT of heavy metals in a short amount of time do??

I think it can do exactly what it did to me.

[Mtndog]

Good Lord Rachel- what you just described as happening to you after the crowns were put in is just plain HORRIFIC. I can't imagine what it must have been like to experience those sensations....it must have truly FELT TOXIC.

I was just thinking the other burden on my system after my mom died in addition to the Lyme and celiac was my TOXIC mold apartment. Even now with Lyme on full-force I have NEVER felt as sick as i did there. I vomited constantly.

[tom]

Dear tom,

The shoelaces debate is so funny! We have had some really stupid arguments around here. The winner is probably the how to spell tird/turd argument. It turns out, it can be spelled both ways. I Googled it!

Ummmmmm, ok, I'm staying out of this one.

<c.spice reluctantly & ever so slowly, very sharp pin in hand, reaches towards Jin's bubble>

When I, errrrr . . . .he 1st saw tird, I . ..uhh . . .we(?) figured it was the old U/I typo dealio.

Our own bit of googling found this.

Open Original Shared Link

And each googled word's #of results is revealing.

tird - - 64,800 (lotta typo'd "tired" here too)

turd - - 2,040,000

Contrarian Spice insists all of this is true!

Not that it can't be a word by now!

{Defense Exhibit A} pwnd!!

Then, add the financial difficulties from doctor bills . . . . . . .

Tomorrow, 7/7/07, the Powerball drawing is at 10:59pm EST.

My tickets were bought ONLY to address Rachelville medical bills. (What can I say? Felt lucky so don't gimme no "math tax" biz)

I've even given thought to distribution methods!!

What's the opposite of a hex? Let's do that on these R'ville community tickets!!

This is especially so after this morning. I got one of those horrible sharp pains in my colon today.

Ugh - it's been a long time for me since anything like that, but I do remember.

Is never having one again too much to ask? Then let's go w/ that being last one this year.

I just wonder why I tolerate popcorn, tortilla chips, kernel corn, but not creamed corn? It was gluten-free for sure. Why is it so difficult to digest? Or, I could be developing new sensitivities. Just what I need! Stupid Leaky-Gut!

Somewhere below dairy was mentioned. I had thought it was called "creamed corn" just cuz it got beat up so much the kernel guts made the consistency creamy, but wth do I know.

Found recipes w/ butter, cream, and many other options.

Curious about what was in yours, Jin.

Hope u feel better quickly!

<c.spice offers to replace that bubble he burstededed - shipping included>

[tom]

Has anyone ever been in so much abdominal pain they started seeing spots? Is that weird?

Yes weird to me too when I was seeing them.

Sometimes just periphery, sometimes all over & bigger.

Couple non-GI times. One was getting fillings w/ no novacaine or anything since I had a school jazz band concert that night. Why we didn't just reschedule the appt I'll never know.

[dlp252]

Andrea - oh good grief, lol...getting the heebie jeebies thinking about no computer for 25 hours. Definitely wouldn't be able to work--there's absolutely no way to avoid computers at work for me.

I sure hope you don't have to send more money to the ex! See, that's what Jin and I were talking about...phantom expenses that just seem to crop up at the wrong time. Stupid phantom expenses!

Rachel - yeah, I did have the excessive drooling...couldn't bend over without thinking about it first. And, yep, wet pillows. Still, my reactions were never as bad as you've described and like Bev said, I can't even imagine how scarey that was for you at the time.

My allergies happened really quickly. I never had them at all until around 2000 or thereabouts...then suddenly I was congested all the time, but never had typical allergy symptoms of sneezing, watery eyes, etc, when I was around something I was allergic to.

I dont think that just because someone has two different metals...they are experiencing a strong galvanic reaction. From what I experienced....you would know it....even if not right away...you would *know* that something isnt right with the metals.

I think I did know it, I just didn't know why. I knew something wasn't right with the dental work quite a few years ago, but didn't know anything about mercury until I came here.

I think small burdens can pile up on each other....and sometimes there is just huge burdens that noone can overcome. I do think genetics plays a role in everything.....but I also think too much mercury in a short time would make *anyone* sick.

I have never read or heard that some people can tolerate *any* amount of mercury and not be affected by it....it affects everyone to some degree.

Theres plenty of people who get sick from mercury and other heavy metals and never even had these things in their mouth.

Yeah, I'd agree with all of this

I'm on treatments more related to how they deal with the autistic kids and theres alot of focus on my pathways and the metals. Even though we see the same Dr.'s our treatments arent all that similar.

Yeah, that's what I posted the other day to Lisa...just because we all may see the same doctor's the supplements/meds/treatment might be completely different.

Donna...this probably answers your question better than I ever could.

Thanks for the info

[dlp252]

Tom - I don't make TOO many typos, but in my early days at the first law firm I worked at, I was typing up a legal document, and <<wish I could remember the sentence context cuz it was funny>> the attorney brought back the document and said, um, you might want to change this word. The word was supposed to be whole, but I typed, well, an alternate word for a lady of the evning...it still totally fit in the sentence too.

[AndreaB]

Tom - I don't make TOO many typos, but in my early days at the first law firm I worked at, I was typing up a legal document, and <<wish I could remember the sentence context cuz it was funny>> the attorney brought back the document and said, um, you might want to change this word. The word was supposed to be whole, but I typed, well, an alternate word for a lady of the evning...it still totally fit in the sentence too.

[AndreaB]

Andrea - oh good grief, lol...getting the heebie jeebies thinking about no computer for 25 hours. Definitely wouldn't be able to work--there's absolutely no way to avoid computers at work for me.

That's not the half of it.......no cell or cordless phone use, 8' from TV and you have to use an eraser on the remote. Can't hold it. No hair dryer, no electric stove or oven, no GPS, if you listen to music you have to use an eraser to touch the buttons........that's not all, it's quite a big paragraph of things.

Also you are supposed to be in the back seat......maybe that was 8' too.....of the car on the ride home which isn't supposed to be more than 2 hours (we can't help that one).

[tom]

Our friend Susan is resting and relaxing at a friends at the beach.....where it is supposed to be much cooler.

Hehe a lot more than "supposed to".

Figuring the friend is towards where she once worked/lived.

I lived in Monterey County for a couple years.

Central Coast is nothing short of GORgeous!!

She'll have touches of morning fog, burnt off well before noon.

Unleashed dingos on the beach, I'll bet.

Ahhhhh it's so nice there thru the summer.

<sigh> (maybe it'll be 1st daytrip after SJ move!! )

Can't even imagine how many years since I tried a daytrip.

By sideroad shortcuts I was 7 miles from a great beach. (A left at Fort Ord and BAM! - waves w/in minutes.)

What a way to let go of a s$#&e day @work!

And they did hang-gliding lessons @ that beach!! Grrrr I should've done that.