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Gotta get back to work. Just wanted to shout out my best wishes to Judy....hope all goes well with the procedures today. :wub::wub:

Will catch up with the rest later. :)


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Rachel--24 Collaborator

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I cant WAIT to start getting rid of these metals!!!! :D:D

8 more days. :)

jerseyangel Proficient
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I cant WAIT to start getting rid of these metals!!!! :D:D

8 more days. :)

This has been a long time in coming for you! I can't wait, either :D

AndreaB Contributor
I cant WAIT to start getting rid of these metals!!!! :D:D

Me either. :D

dlp252 Apprentice
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I cant WAIT to start getting rid of these metals!!!! :D:D

8 more days. :)

:lol: !!!!

Me either. :D

Ditto! :lol:

christine 25 Newbie
someone came to the window and was wearing a LOT of cologne or perfume or body lotion or something. I could hardly stand there to take her job. My throat starting feeling like it wanted to close up and definitely got scratchy! I didn't feel well most of the day after that, and could smell it even after she was long gone. They can't really tell the entire office to NOT wear stuff, but maybe I can do something like wear a mask. Course, I guess it would be rude to slap a mask on when someone comes to the window though.

Donna, Ha Ha :D .

I used to wear a $50 PAINTERS mask at work, when one of my patients would smoke. Can you picture it?

:ph34r:

christine 25 Newbie
Heavy metals such as mercury, cadmium, platinum, arsenic and lead in our environment collect in our cells and when present in elevated concentrations, suppress our cell's normal ability to utilize oxygen. Reduction of cellular respiration often triggers increased yeast proliferation to compensate for this reduction in energy production. Yeast overgrowth in bodies challenged by high toxic metal levels, can be understood as the body's desperate attempt to protect itself against the ravaging effects of heavy metal poisoning.

I think Ive figured out how to do the quote thing...

Ya both you and rachel have mentioned the paradox, that Yeast actually can protect the body from causing further free radical damage through adsorption of metals.

Did you know that they actually use Mushrooms or Fungi in Bioremediation, to clean up Atomic waste. The enzymes in the fungi can actually dismember a bomb, and Clean up a lot of garbage.

We talked about it in chemistry class. Whit Rot Fungi inparticular, the flowery white kind that grows on logs in the forest, and decomposes wood.

ITs really interesting, These little guys are actually edible too...

If I whipped up a batch of White Rot Fungi Soup would anyone be interested???

EWW!

Great article it explains, fungi, Lignins, chemical pollution.

"The Fungus among Us: Use of White Rot Fungi to Biodegrade Environmental Pollutants"

"Environmental Pollutants"

"The growing list of chemicals white rot fungi are able to degrade includes many pesticides, polyaromatic hydrocarbons, PCBs and other halogenated aromatics (including dioxins), some dyes, TNT and other nitro explosives, and other toxic chemicals such as cyanides, azide, carbon tetrachloride, and pentachlorophenol. White rot fungi are also nonselective in degrading all the chemical components of complex mixtures. For example, all the components of Aroclors (PCB), toxaphene, creosote, and coal tars are degraded by the fungi. In some cases this ability is related to the nonspecific nature of the peroxidases secreted by the fungi; in other cases it is related to the variety of mechanisms that the fungi use to degrade chemicals."

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christine 25 Newbie
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I cant WAIT to start getting rid of these metals!!!! :D:D

8 more days. :)

8 more days until the LED treatment starts?

christine 25 Newbie
I took a training a few years ago on communication, and on thing I learned was a framework for "styles" of communication. There were four styles, and the one where people often are uncomfortable is called "control talk." Subcategories (when it is more negative) are called "fight talk" and "spite talk." I have really tried to learn to be aware of how many times what I say comes across in this style and promotes a reactive response. It has opened my eyes and I am still practicing new ways.

That sounds very cool. I would like to have been there. I love learning about communication, and Linguistics.

Have you read Deborah Tannan's books? I love her. :)

"You Just dont understand" Women and men in Conversation."

"That's not What I meant!, How Conversation Style Makes of Breaks Relationships"

She has her PhD in linguistics, and is so smart!

I think that on some level people's actions speak louder than words. But I love English and Linguistics and communication.

Another book I read recently Soical Intelligence, by Daniel Goleman. It is facinating.

Also "Do what you Are" and "Just your Type" By Paul Tieger and Barbra Barron-Tieger, is awsome.

It is based on MBTI, theory of types, such as ENFP, ISTJ, Based on Carl Jung, the Swiss Psychologist, and the work of Isebella Myers Briggs.

I love it.

It helps explain the differences of peoples personality type. Very interesting and complex!

Also a favorite is ,,,David Keirsey's "Please Understand me II" He expalains the 4 different categorys of type

There are 16 personality types. Mine is ENFP. Or NF.

Classified as an Idealist, according to Keirsey.

Extroverted, Intivtive, Feeling, Percieving.

"The Champion Idealists ENFP's are abstract in thought and speech, cooperative in accomplishing their aims, and informative and expressive when relating with others. For Champions, nothing occurs which does not have some deep ethical significance, and this, coupled with their uncanny sense of the motivations of others, gives them a talent for seeing life as an exciting drama, pregnant with possibilities for both good and evil. This type is found in only about 3 percent of the general population, but they have great influence because of their extraordinary impact on others. Champions are inclined to go everywhere and look into everything that has to do with the advance of good and the retreat of evil in the world. They can't bear to miss out on what is going on around them; they must experience, first hand, all the significant social events that affect our lives. And then they are eager to relate the stories they've uncovered, hoping to disclose the "truth" of people and issues, and to advocate causes. This strong drive to unveil current events can make them tireless in conversing with others, like fountains that bubble and splash, spilling over their own words to get it all out.

Champions consider intense emotional experiences as being vital to a full life, although they can never quite shake the feeling that a part of themselves is split off, uninvolved in the experience. Thus, while they strive for emotional congruency, they often see themselves in some danger of losing touch with their real feelings, which Champions possess in a wide range and variety. In the same vein, Champions strive toward a kind of spontaneous personal authenticity, and this intention always to "be themselves" is usually communicated nonverbally to others, who find it quite attractive. All too often, however, Champions fall short in their efforts to be authentic, and they tend to heap coals of fire on themselves, berating themselves for the slightest self-conscious role-playing." _David Keirsey

Some famous,,, Charles Dickens, Joan Biaz, Upton Sinclar, Carl Rogers, Joseph Campbell, Sandra Bullock.

It would be interesting to see what other people's types are...

Keirsey classifys people into 4 basic groups, Guardians, which represent about 40% of populations, Artiants, idealists, and Rationals

you can take a seveal tests online or go to keirsys website to check it out...

Jung tests to figure out MBTI type.

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happygirl Collaborator

Im about to start drinking the barium.....who is not looking forward to this ;)

AndreaB Contributor

Donna,

I forgot to comment on you wearing a mask at work when needed. I certainly don't think it would hurt. People may think it odd, but that's their problem. My mom's told me of seeing people out and about in town with masks on....probably for pollen.....but they are masks nonetheless.

You need to do what is necessary to be able to do your job.

AndreaB Contributor
Im about to start drinking the barium.....who is not looking forward to this ;)

I'm hoping all goes well for you tomorrow. I've never had a "scopy" or anything of the sort so I don't know what the barium is like.........somehow I don't think I want to go there. :ph34r:

happygirl Collaborator

Usually the barium is given for various scans so that they can see your insides.

Last year I had the barium swallow, which means you drink it and they look at your digestive track at timed intervals.

This time, its for the CT scan.

I almost forgot how yucky this stuff is.

Lisa Mentor

Laura, sorry about your dinner tonight (drinking mess) and I hate to say I am way behind news. Don't even know what it's about? Sorry me!

Has Judy checked in?

tom Contributor

Great Googly-Moogly so much to say!

Lisa! A couple/few weeks ago there was some IV talk. I remember thinking it should happen. If not then, probably before long if things didn't get better.

IMHO, it's the right way to go. Just another step in the journey.

You can and you will get better.

I've been "pooping in" ( :P ) here and there to try to not get dozens of pages behind. Not much time so a lot of skimming. But not so much skimming to not know "Yes Virginia, there IS joy in Rachelville". ( MixmasteredMetaphorSpice does xmas & Casey-at-the-Bat!!)

So great to hear several ppl doing better!! (Even MUCH better!!) and others on an undeniably good track to Wellsville! :)

OMG Jestgar!! I *SO* bit on that paragraph it's embarrassing!! <_<

Grrrr can't remember all the things I thought I'd write!!

Before my trip it seemed I was well over the Mendoza Line (sorry ladies, sports reference) for off-topic vs topical posts - what w/ the llama love and 'hairgel' and all. :lol:

Dear tom,

S.J. this weekend! It is going to be great! You will go to all kinds of great places! That will be so fun! Are you going to go to the beach?

It has been great. Looked at a Willow Glen Apt today. Did a ton. Even a couple dates nyuk-nyuk. One ridiculous 45min locked out of apt (and building) while date on her way. I hadn't eaten yet - nothing edible for me anywhere nearby, tho no shortage of eateries. And tho hoping to slip thru door#1 to elev, there's 0 cell reception anywhere close enough to even see door while calling. Back & forth, back & forth. Time running out. Got thru door#1 once carrying case of Redbridge (WhFds had none & 4 out of 5 BevMo's were out and guys wanted some of their own!! What a gluten-free beer!!), which was left at Apt door, but was then unable to get back up and I'm left to hope random

GI suds aficianados w/ criminal leanings don't happen by apt 424!

And I can't even get back to door#2 to put myself in the relatively favorable position of *bringing* a box of beer on a 'maybe' date. Did date Mei 8-9 yrs ago, as the descent of mind & body was commencing. Chances are, I can't deny, I may have been less than a good date at the time.

But all's well now. Expected maybe 30min coffee, but was 4 hrs of this'n'that. :)

So I'm stuck needing a shower or at least a splash on face and getting HUNGRIER by the minute!!

OH! That VERY morning I'd asked John what time I needed to be back to ensure no lockout!!!!!!

"1pm" he tells me!!!!! At noon I find a horribly disfigured truth.

Oops gotta go. (One 4day old quote )

The source was Contrarian Spice, though.

Heyyyyyyyyyyy! He told me he sent flowers!! Ahhhh I get it! Dollface didn't give him her real address! No surprise there - bet he gets that a lot. :);)

Best of luck to all.

mftnchn Explorer

Hi Christine. I'm an INFP on the Myers-Briggs.

The communication program is excellent. The program for couples is super, as well as the singles's one. It is available all over the country, check out www.couplecommunication.com The program is just starting here in China, too. Lots of couples have benefited.

I've read Tannen, as well as several other of the authors you mentioned. Since our relationships are based on communication--seems like a pretty important thing to be interested in! ;)

Rachel--24 Collaborator
I almost forgot how yucky this stuff is.

My diet must just be WAY too sparse.... basically void of *everything* and I've drank nothing but WATER for 2 whole years now...(except for hot ice cream :) )...so yeah....I freakin LOVED my barium drink!! :lol:

Seriously...I wanted seconds. :P

I do remember NOT liking it....and actually gagging on it....but that was before restricting my diet so much. Now....you could give me that stuff in a big frosty mug (one of those little umbrellas would be nice too) and I'd be pretty darned excited over it! :D

Mtndog Collaborator

Laura- Just wanted to say good luck tomorrow...barium-yuck <_<:(

Judy- I see you :wub: :wub: :wub: How'd it go?

AndreaB Contributor
Now....you could give me that stuff in a big frosty mug (one of those little umbrellas would be nice too) and I'd be pretty darned excited over it! :D

:lol::lol:

jerseyangel Proficient

Good luck tomorrow, Laura :):)

Well, the realtor just left--the house will be officially listed as of Friday. All the papers, etc. are in order, though.

I feel kinda sad :(

It'll pass, though.

In other news, I started the antibiotic about 5 minutes ago. Any bets on how quick I'm gonna have to make a mad dash for the bathroom? :lol:

Rachel--funny about your barium-colada B)

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Hi Judy and Patti!! :)

Patti...antibiotics?? :huh:

I missed some pages from this morning....gotta go back and find out whats going on.

Yeah....its sad to say "good-bye"...I'm like that about moving too....but yeah...I get over it quick. New House....new memories to be made! ;)

Judy hope you are feeling ok. :wub:

christine 25 Newbie
I'm an INFP on the Myers-Briggs.

If you don't mind my asking, what do you do for a living?

Right now I am working as a nursing assistant for 3 years and I like it. I am finishing up my degree in Psychology and English, at OSU. Then my masters in Psychology.

I decided I didnt want to become a nurse.

Do you find that its hard to choose a career?

I have a tendency to get excited about things and then change...

I have 2 INFP friends and I have always felt the most close to them.

I have heard that they make great counselors.

By the way, just got out of a relationship with ISTJ, we would not have much in common, he was so detailed and organized, just the facts, liked security and I was spontanious and free spirited, challenging. We were Like Darma and Greg!

The odd coupple!

AndreaB Contributor
In other news, I started the antibiotic about 5 minutes ago. Any bets on how quick I'm gonna have to make a mad dash for the bathroom? :lol:

1 hour?

It's sad and exciting to move all wrapped up in one.

I sure hope these antibiotics don't throw you for too much of a loop. Is it a 10 day course?

christine 25 Newbie

For anyone who cares...

Which group would best fit you?

Sorry, Im a psychology geek and I like this stuff.

I just wanted to know, Im curious about people...

The SPs "ARTISANS"

Myers had SPs probing around their immediate surroundings in order to detect and exploit any favorable options that came within reach. Having the freedom to act on the spur of the moment, whenever or wherever an opportunity arises, is very important to SPs. No chance is to be blown, no opening missed, no angle overlooked -- whatever or whoever might turn out to be exciting, pleasurable, or useful is checked out for advantage. Though they may differ in their attitude toward tough-mindedness (T) and friendliness (F) in exploring for options, and though some are socially expressive (E) and some reserved (I), all of them make sure that what they do is practical and effective in getting what they want.

Consistent with this view Myers described SPs as "adaptable," "artistic," and "athletic" -- as very much "aware of reality and never fighting it" -- as "open-minded" and ever "on the lookout for workable compromises" -- as knowing "what's going on around them" and as able "to see the needs of the moment" -- as "storing up useful facts" and having "no use for theories" -- as "easygoing," "tolerant," "unprejudiced," and "persuasive" -- as "gifted with machines and tools" -- as acting "with effortless economy" -- as "sensitive to color, line, and texture" -- as wanting "first-hand experiences" and in general "enjoying life." So SPs, as seen by Myers, are very much like one another and very much different from the other types, the SJs, NFs, and NTs.

The SJs "GUARDIANS"

Myers had SJs, like SPs, observing their close surroundings with a keen eye, but for an entirely different reason, namely that of scheduling their own and others' activities so that needs are met and conduct is kept within bounds. Thus for SJs, everything should be in its proper place, everybody should be doing what they're supposed to, everybody should be getting their just deserts, every action should be closely supervised, all products thoroughly inspected, all legitimate needs promptly met, all approved ventures carefully insured. Though SJs might differ in being tough-minded (T) or friendly (F) in observing their schedules, and though they can be expressive (E) or reserved (I) in social attitude, all of them demand that ways and means of getting things done are proper and acceptable.

And so Myers described the SJs as "conservative" and "stable" -- as "consistent" and "routinized" -- as "sensible," "factual," and "unimpulsive" -- as "patient," "dependable," and "hard-working" -- as "detailed," "painstaking," "persevering," and "thorough." This too is a clear-cut pattern of action and attitude, highly unlike that of the SPs, NFs, and NTs.

The NFs "IDEALISTS"

On the introspective side, Myers had NFs as friendly to the core in dreaming up how to give meaning and wholeness to people's lives. Conflict in those around them is painful for NFs, something they must deal with in a very personal way, and so they care deeply about keeping morale high in their membership groups, and about nurturing the positive self-image of their loved ones. Indeed, while they might differ from each other on how important judging schedules (J) or probing for options (P) is in acting on their friendly feelings, and while their social address can be expressive (E) or reserved (I), all NFs consider it vitally important to have everyone in their circle -- their family, friends, and colleagues -- feeling good about themselves and getting along with each other.

Thus Myers, an INFP herself, saw her fellow NFs as "humane" and "sympathetic" -- as "enthusiastic" and "religious" -- as "creative" and "intuitive" -- and as "insightful" and "subjective." Again this is a distinct picture of attitude and action, showing NFs to be very much like each other and greatly different from SPs, SJs, and NTs.

The NTs "RATIONALS"

Also on the introspective side, Myers had NTs as tough-minded in figuring out what sort of technology might be useful to solve a given problem. To this end, NTs require themselves to be persistently and consistently rational in their actions. Though they may differ in their preference for judging schedules (J) or probing for options (P) as they tackle problems, and though they can seem expressive (E) or reserved (I) around others, all NTs insist that they have a rationale for everything they do, that whatever they do and say makes sense.

So Myers described the NTs as "analytical" and "systematic" -- as "abstract," "theoretical," and "intellectual" -- as "complex," "competent" and "inventive" -- as "efficient," "exacting" and "independent" -- as "logical" and "technical" -- and as "curious," "scientific," and "research-oriented." Here again is a unique and easily recognizable configuration of character traits, the NTs a breed apart, starkly different from SPs, SJs, and NFs.

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Just spent I hr doing a post and :ph34r: lost it :ph34r:

was checking spelling.

I'm overwhelmed by the love on this board.

To say I'm over joyed to see our RACHEL BACK is an understatement.

Commented on everyone ...Please know i care i can't post it all over again.

It all went well but still no answers except the good ones..no cancer, no polyps, but no other answers. She took some many biopsy. I said make it count b/c you aren't seeing me in here again.

I'll post tomorrow b/c I'm going to do it in word and copy it.

Patti sorry i didn't wish you well at the Dr. I so forgot.

good about Realtor and hope the antibiotic works.

Laura prayers for you tomorrow. Glad Mom will be there.

nite all have got to hit the sheets.

love you all...It's just wonderful to have our TOWN BACK IN ONE PIECE.

JUDY

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      Hello,   The medication in these inhalers can cause a thiamine deficiency if used by someone already low in thiamine.  We don't absorb sufficient amounts of vitamins and minerals due to the inflammation and damage done to our villi in Celiac Disease.  Even a long term strict gluten free diet may not provide sufficient amounts of vitamins and minerals.  There are eight B vitamins that all work together.  Thiamine deficiency often shows up first because our bodies use so much of it and it can't be stored very long. Thiamine deficiency symptoms can appear in as little as three days.  Without thiamine, the other B vitamins may not be able to function properly.   Thiamine is needed to clear lactic acid accumulation caused by the inhalers: Shoshin beriberi provoked by the inhalation of salbutamol https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12951730/    Significant Lactic Acidosis from Albuterol https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5965110/ Albuterol-Induced Type B Lactic Acidosis: Not an Uncommon Finding https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7263006/ Lessons of the month 1: Salbutamol induced lactic acidosis: clinically recognised but often forgotten https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6964186/ An Overview of Type B Lactic Acidosis Due to Thiamine (B1) Deficiency https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10731935/   Thiamine has antifungal and antibacterial properties.  Thiamine helps keep Candida in check.  Thiamine helps keep SIBO in check.  Thiamine helps with black mold, Aspergillis infection.  Riboflavin helps fight Candida infection in the mouth. Riboflavin Targets the Cellular Metabolic and Ribosomal Pathways of Candida albicans In Vitro and Exhibits Efficacy against Oropharyngeal Candidiasis https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36625571/   Thiamine deficiency can make ones voice hoarse and can cause localized edema.  Niacin deficiency can make ones voice hoarse.  (Niacin deficiency and Thiamine deficiency can each cause irritability, agitation, and lability.) Hoarseness in pellagra https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21507655/ Hidden Hunger: A Pellagra Case Report https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8152714/   Anesthesia can cause B12 deficiency.  B12 deficiency can show up as mouth sores and geographic tongue, diarrhea, and dementia. Vitamin deficiency, a neglected risk factor for post-anesthesia complications: a systematic review https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11823251/ Neurologic degeneration associated with nitrous oxide anesthesia in patients with vitamin B12 deficiency https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8250714/ Subacute combined degeneration of the spinal cord following nitrous oxide anesthesia: A systematic review of cases https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30144777/ The Effect of Vitamin B12 Infusion on Prevention of Nitrous Oxide-induced Homocysteine Increase: A Double-blind Randomized Controlled Trial https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4052402/     Eating a diet that is heavy in carbohydrates can precipitate a thiamine deficiency.  As the amount of carbohydrates consumed increases, additional thiamine is needed, otherwise the carbs will be stored as fat.   Thiamine deficiency disorders: a clinical perspective https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8451766/   Hiding in Plain Sight: Modern Thiamine Deficiency https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8533683/   The deficiency symptoms of some of the B vitamins cause gastrointestinal symptoms that resemble the same symptoms as when being glutened.   Thiamine deficiency can present as vomiting, diarrhea and abdominal pain (Gastrointestinal Beriberi).  Niacin deficiency can present as diarrhea (Pellagra = diarrhea, dermatitis, dementia, then death ).  B12 deficiency can present as diarrhea or dementia.  Not everything is caused by hidden gluten.  Gluten free processed foods are not required to be enriched with vitamins lost in processing like gluten containing foods are. Blood tests are not accurate measurements of vitamin levels, but do talk to your doctor and nutritionist about supplementing with the eight B vitamins, Vitamin C, the four fat soluble vitamins and minerals like magnesium.  Your physician can give you a shot of B12 before anesthesia administration.   By the way, Celiac Disease genes have been traced back to having originated in Neanderthals.  I'm not a singing teacher on the net.  I earned a degree in Microbiology after studying nutrition because I wanted to know what vitamins are doing inside the body.  I've experienced nutritional deficiencies myself. Hope this helps!  Keep us posted on your progress!
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