Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[jerseyangel]

Oh Mia, I really understand your concerns. As we speak, my husband and son are away on a week-long car show/convention trip that was planned for a whole year. At first, I was confident that I would go, but as the trip got closer, I decided not to go. I knew that with so many people (not family) involved there would be lots of eating out and doing things spontainiously.

The thing is, I would hate for you to miss out on your vacation and seeing everyone. I know it might throw off your bathroom schedule (and I don't discount for a minute how important that is and how long it can take to get back to normal ) and then there is the food issue.

I guess I'm not gonna be much help . I can see it both ways. I hate it when people try and encourage me to do things I can't handle, so I can't just say "go for it".

That said, the fresh air, change of scenery and the company might just lift your spirits, though and I'll bet we could brainstorm and figure out things you could bring to eat well while there. It sounds like you'd really like to go.

Again, not much help...

[miamia]

oh PAtti-

you are helpful!!! Just that you understand exactly what i feel is helpful in itself!

I know i want to go even when i say i don't becasue i keep trying of thinking about food ideas- Any suggestions would be great!!!!!!!!!!!!(in case i do decide to go)

I a sorry you didn't get to go with your family. My sister is one of those people who does not quite understand what its like for me. I tried to explain it to her and all she can say is "c'mon just go"It makes me so angry at her becasue she gets to go and eat the most amazing food(this place we go has the yummiest food) and go to the bathroom without a problem and feel completly realxed and eat in a dining room and not her hotel room

[jerseyangel]

Yea Mia, I get tired of having to try and explain myself to people who just don't understand. It's hard, unless you've "been there".

Can you have access to a microwave? If so, you could make up meals (I did this for my last out-of-town visit to family) for yourself, freeze them, and just microwave as needed. I have a cooler that I bought through QVC that is soft-sided, folds flat. and goes right in the freezer. It kept my meals frozen solid for a 5 hour car trip last July.

[Fiddle-Faddle]

Mia, I forget what foods you can eat. If you wouldn't mind posting those again, maybe we could come up with creative ideas for packing/cooking/meal prep, etc.

It might be worth investing in a tiny portable microwave that you can keep in the hotel room. I usually bring lots of zipper bags and fill them with ice cubes and keep them in one of those cheapie styrofoam coolers. I pack my food in the cooler, even the stuff that doesn't need refrigeration, just for the traveling part. I pack baby carrots, minute rice, deli sliced turkey, a loaf of gluten-free bread, nut butter, fruit, etc.

If you make a lot of your own food, like soups, you can freeze them in individual portions, and then just keep them refrigerator temp at the hotel, and nuke them as needed. Just bring a glass container (like a small casserole dish or even a measuring cup) for microwaving purposes--plastic might be "safe for microwave", but the resulting toxins leached into our foods are not safe for us!

[DingoGirl]

RACHEL! you silly. I am pretty sure that Starbucks would *not* sell any product containing the word (or any part of) CRAP.

......or WOULD they????

[AndreaB]

Both him and the girl were like..."UH....YEAH...its definately the blanket."

He didnt even want me to bring home the device after that.

He said other than throwing the blanket away...he would recommend I turn it on *before* I get in bed....get everything warmed up and then turn it off and unplug it before I get in bed.

No more blanket!!!!

Yep, I've heard bad things about those blankets. We got rid of ours years ago. I assume as you rid yourself of these toxins that you'll be able to stay warm a little easier.

YAY!!!!! on the no geopathic stress. I don't know if we've been tested for that or the EMF, unless it's part of the ASYRA.

Sorry T. has had a rough week. Maybe its from the detox? I hope it gets better for both of you.

I did write Dr E. and she said things will get worse before they get better so I'm hoping that her behavior and increased sensitivities will get better as time goes by. She's even more sensitive to "wet", now her saliva bothers her and she spends almost all her time in her room, reading and running the hair dryer to keep dry.

[AndreaB]

You guys might recall when I was first gonna go to BioSET and I was thinking it was some kind of crazy voo-doo stuff?? I dont think I was too excited to go there.....I remember plotting to "trick" her with my supplements.....I brought some of the ones I knew my body HATED.

Then the testing showed all those ones as being bad for me.

I tend to believe because of all of the positive experiences you guys (or should I say gals?) have had.

I've actually been confused when ordering and I think I told them I wanted a frappacino...or crappacino instead of caramel macchiato. I dunno what happened...I just remember getting some coffee drink with ICE.....instead of the yummy warm macchiato with whip cream on top.

It was VERY dissapointing to say the least.

That was when I was so very lost in the fog.

I'm sorry you didn't get what you really wanted. It's probably because of the talk of frappacino's here. Still amusing though.

Then he was asking me to say stuff like "I am going to get better" "I want to get better" "I deserve to get better"....stuff like that....he was testing me and my arm was strong.

Then he said "Well thats good because if your arm went weak for those things we'd have a heck of a time getting you better."

At first I thought he was just joking with those things but now I think he was serious...he was really testing me to see how my body responded.

On my challenge sheet there is a big 0 next to subconcious/emotional stress.

WooHoo on your body wanting to get better!!!! Also Yay on the 0 for sub/emotional stress.

Why would a body not want to get better I wonder.

ok i need some opinions.

Oh Mia. I'm sorry you've not had a good week.

As far as the family vacation I can hear your dilemna. It would be very nice to get out to some fresh air and good company. Staying in the hotel room most of the time wouldn't be fun though. If we can figure out foods though that would work and not be too time consuming.......

[tom]

. . . . . . and just the idea of possibly causing a set back which i really cannpt afford right now. . . .

. . . .. Also i live in the city- hello polution- car fumes , flying toxins ,dirty air, etc. And i would be going up to the mountains- FResh air!!!!!!!(that could really help me.

AHHHHHHH......

Hi Mia,

HooooooBoy, I thought for sure I'd be leaning towards avoiding a possible setback being the largest factor, in my mind, but then the mountain air part came up!!

That's a toughie!

It might feel soooo tremendous to be in the mountains for a change.

So, I can only weigh in as a "firm undecided". D'oh!

Whichever way feels right at decision time is probably the right way to go.

I hate having the tough decisions, flip-flopping back and forth - neither side ever pulling far ahead. It's such a relief once the decision's made.

Maybe one point is that just because the possibility of a setback on the trip is a negative for going, it doesn't *also* mean that there's NO possibility of a setback if u don't go.

Less chance of setback I'm sure if not going, but sadly not zero chance.

Wouldn't the worst thing be NOT going then having the damn setback at home? <I better not get accused of jinxing>

So maybe I'd lean towards mountain air after all, if the preparation and eating while there isn't too difficult.

[Clark Bent as Stupor-Man]

alright, been a few weeks since I've posted, got a bunch of different things to say, we'll see how much I get out before my mind goes back into a fog...

I've felt like my mind's been in the clouds the better part of the past 2 months and it's not exactly like I was grounded in the first place before starting ABX treatment... I definitely took a step backwards overall on the ABX, primarily in the mental/cognitive areas with slightly worse headaches overall and a little more exhaustion... I was still able to play ball and go to the gym each week and wasn't any worse physically aside from the balance symptoms I got each time I tried to bump up my dosage to a higher amount...

carla, it wasn't just during herxing in which I was feeling worse overall in my case... I don't know that I really herxed at all unless of course I was herxing the entire time... but I just had even more trouble thinking and processing things than normal, at least most of the time during ABX... still not great right now but I have been getting my mind back a bit closer to what is "normal" for me nowadays the past couple days...

I've now stopped the ABX at least for the time being... I didn't make or even suggest this decision though I think that's what I wanted anyway for now... on my appt this past week with my LLMD, she decided to have me stop ABX and focus more on looking into and treating some other issues right now than the lyme...

she wants me to take diflucan, which apparently also has some anti-lyme properties which I think I remember reading at one point, for the yeast and to also take cat's claw, for the lyme of course...

she also wants me to continue with some different detox things like the footpads... I've been incorporating more detoxification methods in the past couple months and have been trying to learn more about this aspect of the recovery process... I've been squeezing lemon into water at times as well as using the footpads, weekly physical activity like b-ball and the gym, and of course, my diet itself...

I might look into adding some other things like chlorella or epsom salt in the shower... a couple other things I'm forgetting too... I read mixed things about people trying the epsom salt baths as it seems to leave some people very achy or tired, possibly from drawing out/stirring up too many toxins when their bodies aren't ready for it... the rest of the detox things I'm considering and have already implemented seem much more benign across the board so I might leave the epsom salt on the backburner for now...

and last but not least, it looks like I'll be probably be joining you nutsos (said with nothing but affection of course ) in getting some type of muscle testing done... not ART, bioset, or NAET or anything I've heard of in this area... but it seems to involve some type of biofeedback testing and computer integrated component from talking with my LLMD and reading a little info about it...

my LLMD recommended this to me... she understands I'm skeptical and said her husband was as well years ago when he had it done... but apparently, it was pretty much dead on with a lot of atypical infections in his case and she is utilizing the testing for her daughter as well now... she said to not share my history and whatnot with the practitioner... or maybe she just said her husband didn't and the results were still quite accurate...

she also said the testing depends a lot on the practitioner... or I might have brought this up indirectly, either way we both agreed on this... memory aint quite what it used to be though I'm pretty sure I could at least remember to pee in a cup when I go in for a urine test at a doctor's office

she seemed to speak highly of the practitioner so I assume I'll be more confident in this practitioner than the one I saw for my bioset consultation earlier this year... I think I'd be willing to try most alternative treatments and diagnostic methods at this point (taking costs into consideration of course as well as relevance to my situation) as long as I am confident enough in their competence and communication with me... no different than doctors... I no longer go to doctors more than once who I'm not impressed with and wouldn't do so with an alternative dr./practitioner either..

I also asked about getting some bloodwork done for vitamins and minerals and whatnot (had some bloodwork done a year ago for a bunch of this with my nutritionist but nothing recently) but she indicated the muscle testing was likely to be just as, if not more accurate... I also brought up mercury/metals for the first time since seeing her and that I was considering doing a provoked urine challenge test... naturally, the muscle testing will encompass metals so I'll wait until after this testing to see if I want to pursue a challenge test for which I have already found a practice I can get this done with...

that about sums it up for now, I'll probably add some other stuff later... oh, and of all the things I've seen suggested and people try in this thread, bouncing on a trampoline might just take the cake for things I'd never guess would have been suggested to help detoxify... not that girls bouncing on a trampoline is a bad thing of course... but I'm gonna stop before I get myself in trouble on this one...

[AndreaB]

Charlie,

Glad to hear your getting some muscle testing done. I'm a believer in it now. I do have to agree that it depends on the practitioner though.

Sounds like the ABX were throwing your for a loop. Glad you're taking a break from that and pursueing other things that will help you and determine other things that need to be treated.

I'll be looking foward to updates as you have the time.

[dlp252]

Well, I can't read page 1399....so can't respond to anything there. I haven't had this problem in quite a few weeks now.

Oh LISA!!!!!! I'm so happy you are seeing this new doctor for some IV nutrition!!! Yay!!!!!

Jin - I'M GOING MEXICO!!! Yes, we're going on a cruise. It's all booked, the air is booked and paid for. I really need to get away for a while. We're going to Mazatlan, Cabo San Lucas and Puerta Vallarta. Anyway, now there's the planning and stuff, so that will take my mind off work for a while. No new developments on the solo...I skipped practice on Thursday cuz I just didn't have the energy for it. I'll have to go next Thursday though no matter how I feel cuz that's our practice on the mics.

Rachel - I'm just so fascinated about this LED stuff. I ran into Scott at BioSET today and we talked for a long time...he had just come from his second LED treatment. He didn't have much to report on progress...it's a little too soon to tell he said, but he's optimistic. He's also doing the IRT (or going to do it). Anyway, I mentioned that you just had your initial "exam"...he said he'd email you, but it won't be until at least tomorrow cuz of his treatment. He did say he was tired after his first treatment, but he felt fine this time and looked like he meant it, lol.

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So I was just slightly miffed at my BioSET appointment today because apparently Anna didn't write down why I was coming in for these next two sessions, lol. But it all worked out. I got Denise and after I explained what Anna tested me on last time and what the goal was for these next two sessions, she tested me on one of the 4 lyme panels. Last time I had panel 4, this time she picked 3. I only reacted to 4 vials--I was very happy, but she said it's not great to react to any of them. So these vials were affecting my carbohydrate metobalism and gallbladder and a bunch of other things I can't remember. Kind of didn't feel well after I got home, but that could be because I found some soft baked chewy chocolate chip enjoy life cookies at whole foods and ate two of them when I got home. Probably not a good idea after having just been "treated" for it.

[AndreaB]

So I was just slightly miffed at my BioSET appointment today because apparently Anna didn't write down why I was coming in for these next two sessions, lol. But it all worked out. I got Denise and after I explained what Anna tested me on last time and what the goal was for these next two sessions, she tested me on one of the 4 lyme panels. Last time I had panel 4, this time she picked 3. I only reacted to 4 vials--I was very happy, but she said it's not great to react to any of them. So these vials were affecting my carbohydrate metobalism and gallbladder and a bunch of other things I can't remember.

Glad you got things worked out today. I didn't realize your appointments would be this soon. If you have further details I wouldn't mind them in an email.

Yay on the cruise! It will be a nice break for you.

Do you want to me find some key words on page 1399 for you?

[jerseyangel]

Yes, Donna--I'm so happy for you that you'll be able to go on the cruise after all.

[NoGluGirl]

Dear Rachel,

I am not surprised by the gluten, dairy, cane sugar and other things your body does not tolerate well. Considering your reactions in the past, the results seem very accurate! It is truly amazing how well that testing works! I wish I could get it done. Maybe someday!

The EMF stress is not surprising at all. An electric blanket would do it. What a bummer, though that you have to give it up! Not your bobo! Remember Susie calling hers a bobo?

Here is something interesting. My friend RiceGuy listens to a radio talkshow called Coast to Coast on the weekends. He thought it would be something I would enjoy, so he sent a link to listen to some of a show. They were talking about how many people who think they are clumsy are actually just sensitive to to the Earth shifting, like when volcanic eruptions and earthquakes occur. This really got my attention, being clutzy.

According to the woman being interviewed, these people are sensitive. She always can tell whether an earthquake or volcanic eruption will occur in Japan, Mexico, the United States or elsewhere depending on where her body pain is! I have always been effected moodwise by weather and other things. Plus, it really does literally feel like I am being thrown into the chairs and stuff at times!

She says that is due to our sensitivity, and it is not our fault.

I have a theory on this. I think that individuals like us have a very high EMF frequency. That in turn, results in being especially pulled by the Earth's gravity at times. What do you think? Charlotte King said she actually made high voltage light bulbs go out, and made cameras go blank. This tends to happen when spirits are present, too, who also have EMFs that are often high.

It is wonderful all you got from your LED appointment! I did not know people could get Parvo! That is scary! I have heard of the Hanta Virus. It killed a lot Native Americans on a reservation in the mid-1990s. The disease is a respiratory illness like the flu, that is transmitted by mice.

Crappacino, mochaccino, whatever! It tastes good! I had never heard of a drink like that. I never go to Starbucks, though. I am afraid of the lactose. You know how that goes!

Dear tom,

The SJ Jazz Fest is next month already? That is sooner that I thought. It is the other festival you go to in September. Either way, they will both be nice. I am not a Brandi Carlisle fan, either. Can you say dying cat?

I think it might have been a typo. I am not sure! All Rachel knows was, that when she ordered, she did not get what she wanted. Now she knows what it was. I certainly had never heard of that drink before, but it sure sounded good!

The Aquafina is good. In all truth, anything is better than the tapwater here! It even causes mold to grow in the toilet! That should tell you something! Ohio River water is deadly!

Dear Lisa,

I only do spells when and if someone wants me to. Do not worry. The offer will remain open if you decide to take it if need be. Just so you know, Witches are not evil, and never were. Wiccans are not allowed to do anything that could hurt someone. You know if we need a stick for a wand, we actually have to ask the tree first?

I am glad you found someone to treat you. I know the IVs will help. You need them desperately. I think once you get some nutrition in you, things will improve. Meanwhile, the malabsorption is difficult to deal with. I still have some of that, too.

When you have Leaky-Gut, it is always a problem. There are many things that have to be done to fix it. The smell sensitivity is difficult to handle. I have that, too. I get queasy from a lot of things like scented candles, perfume, cologne, ands sometimes foods. There are times where I am not sensitive to smells at all, and other times it is unbearable!

Dear Andrea,

At least Aquafina seemed pretty safe! I feel a bit better about that now. Dad thought it would be interesting for me to look up the safety of bottled water. Any form of tapwater is better than the one we have. All of the pollution is deadly, plus there is enough chlorine to nearly kill you.

I hope T feels better soon. It is difficult to deal with that sort of thing. You want to fix it, but do not know how. At least it is normal. Dr. E seems to really have a handle on the situation. That is comforting to know!

Dear Carla,

They use reverse osmosis to purify the water? That is good! I am feeling less scared about it now. Not everyone can afford Perrier, you know? The Great Value brand is ozonated.

I am sorry to hear you are having a flare. Those are no fun at all. The altitude could have set something off. Most people have difficulty breathing at those levels. It would not be too surprising if it effects other things like bacterial overload.

Dear Mia,

The IV treatments should make you feel better. Being weak is likely caused by nutritional depletion. Your activity levels and state of the digestive tract all have a lot to do with this. You probably have Leaky-Gut. That can greatly decrease your ability to absorb any vitamins or minerals.

I cannot think of any better advice than what Alison and Patti already have given. Their tips really were great! You should think about what you need to do for this. If you decide to go, plan ahead. That is the smart thing to do so you can spend less time worrying, and more time enjoying the vacation. You can find healthfood stores and everything on MapQuest. Do what you feel your body can handle.

The guy in Long Island did a great job! He was right on all accounts! Sometimes the quirky stuff is the most accurate. Testing methods vary greatly. Many are useful, but not always very accurate. None are foolproof.

Do not worry about the light and sound sensitivity. Lyme tends to do that to people. I have those symptoms, although I have not been diagnosed yet. I cannot stand high-pitched noises at all. Some noises are booming to me that other people can hardly hear.

Dear Patti,

The tips you provided for Mia were great. I wish I had thought of some of those. That is wonderful that your food lasted so well. I am going to make a note of those ideas. You never know when you might need them.

Your muscle testing seemed highly accurate. The practitioner does play a role in this. They are probably the most important part of it. Practitioners are the variable that counts. Methods are different from each one, but accuracy is not always as good.

Dear Alison,

I would trust New York's water anytime over ours! Did you know they are one of America's Top Ten Greenest Cities? Pollution is much less there than here! I love the New York accent! I have a friend from New York. I just love to hear her talk.

It is funny, because I sound like the biggest hick to her! My accent is so different from hers. She has a cousin that has a much thicker accent than her! She thinks that it is funny! Isn't that odd how people can sound so different because they are not what we are used to hearing?

Thank you for the travel tips for food! I do not think I would have thought of those! If need be, I have them now! I would prefer a full kitchen, but those are not always available. Homestead Inn has those suites.

Dear Susie,

That is an interesting thought to ponder! Would they sell crappacinos? I think they would.

There are people who used to sell tird birds! My mother's friend did! Now there are even poo pets!

Dear Charlie,

I am sorry to hear the ABX has been so hard on you! It sure sounds like you need to make a change, and soon! This approach appears to be hurting you more than helping you. There is probably a lot to address. Lyme comes with all sorts of issues.

Your appointment is soon. That is good. I hope you get this straightened out. You need a treatment that benefits you, not nearly kills you. Not being able to function at all at anytime is a major no-go.

Diflucan is something I know I would not tolerate. I am sensitive to medications of all sorts. My body certainly does not need another burden. If I can, I want to do natural stuff to kill the yeast. Antifungals are not tolerated by a lot of people, though.

ROTFLMAO! Women on trampolines are good! It is not our fault we are such magestic creatures! You cannot help but like us! You are wise to not go too far! Getting into trouble is good to avoid! Good job, Charlie!

Dear Donna,

Mexico is going to be wonderful! You will have a wonderful time! Those locations are all terrific! Take plenty of pics! We will all want to see them! So, when do you leave?

Cruises are a blast. I sure could use a tan! I hate being Irish. We have no pigment. It is just plain unfair! Thank all of your Italian-Hispanic relatives!

I am glad the BioSet stuff got straightened out. That would have annoyed most people. They need to keep their butts in gear! What they heck is with people? It was like that other dentist I saw before the new one.

Sincerely,

Jin

[jerseyangel]

Hi Jin--

When we lived in the south, my husband was in sales and was on the road for days at a time. He used to listen to Coast to Coast. It was back when Art Bell was still on.

I recently saw the new host on Larry King about 2 weeks ago. The earth energy and pull are very interesting. The Kinesiologist I saw says that that type of thing can also cause people to feel ill. It's complicated--I don't understand all of it, but it's compelling just the same.

[diamondheart]

Claire - re:SJ trip - I just found that this year's SJ Jazz Festival is somewhat abbreviated. Limited stages for Fri (I think only 2!), and over the wkend (hmmm you're probably heading home I'd guess) it's just 9 stages. Used to be 12.

Tom, I'll be in SJ from Aug 6-10th. I don't know yet what I'm doing the evening of the 10th. No hotel plans. I might be sleeping in my rental car! Aug 11th-21st is my spiritual retreat at Asilomar near Monterey. Anyhoo, when do you get in to SJ? PM me! I'm ready for a close encounter of the Rachelville kind .

I'm a bit stressed about the food in SJ. Eating out in restaurants everyday will be challenging. I might have to call my hotel to see if we have a refrigerator. So like you Mia, I'm not sure how it will go. I'm counting on Tom to help me out! No gluten or dairy for me Tom.

So ALL of the testing I had on Wed. was done with Kinesiology.....not ART but traditional kinesiology.

ART is also involving muscle testing but in ART they are never using my own arm for testing....I just lay there and do nothing.

Rachel, I did my ART testing with my arm and kinesiology . Don't know why my practitioner does it different than yours. However, the muscle testing was different than with the other muscle testing I've done. Sometimes, having the arm weak was a good thing . I basically just went with it and tried not to worry if my arm went weak or not. She said I was very easy to muscle test because I didn't resist it.

I e-mailed her asking for a print out of my result, and she didn't send them . I don't know if it's because she's moving next week, or what. I really don't care too much for this woman, but I think once my LED treatments are done, she's fired!

I've been doing applied kinesiology for years. My first chiropractor told me I was sensitive to gluten. I just cut back on it a lot, but never completely eliminated it. At that time, gluten was the only thing I tested negative for. Now, it's gluten and dairy. Probably some other things, but like Mia (again), I'd wondered if I'd have listened to him in the first place 8 years ago if I wouldn't have all these sensitivities now .

I had Parvo virus show up too. I had to look it up. Not sure I still get what it is. Hanta virus?! Is that the one that's transfered by mouse poop? I think West Nile Virus and Epstein-Barr virus are bigger problems for me though, and both showed up in my ART testing.

Now I guess I'm totally convinced....but I still think it depends alot on whos doing the testing. I think theres probably some people doing kinesiology who arent really that good at it and not giving accurate results. I think I've had good luck so far with the people I'm seeing.

Definitely!! When I got different results from my ART practitioner and my acu who does BioSET, I was confused . Anyways, I take it all with a grain of salt, cuz kinesiology ain't perfect either.

Kind of didn't feel well after I got home, but that could be because I found some soft baked chewy chocolate chip enjoy life cookies at whole foods and ate two of them when I got home. Probably not a good idea after having just been "treated" for it.

Donna, I have done that before, but not very often. It's like totally negating your treatment. And throwing your money away!

Claire

[diamondheart]

The smell sensitivity is difficult to handle. I have that, too. I get queasy from a lot of things like scented candles, perfume, cologne, ands sometimes foods. There are times where I am not sensitive to smells at all, and other times it is unbearable!

I react the worst to perfumes. Last night, I was with a group that normally doesn't wear that kind of stuff, but we had a bellydancer performing for us. She was great, but her perfume was really irritating my throat. I kept coughing and felt a little like I was choking. I came home with a sore throat . I was a bit scared that I had a bad reaction from the food I ate at our pot luck, but I'm pretty sure it was from the perfume.

Claire

[dlp252]

Do you want to me find some key words on page 1399 for you?

Oh, yes please!!!! Not much else to tell on the BioSET thing...maybe next week will be more exciting.

I have a theory on this. I think that individuals like us have a very high EMF frequency. That in turn, results in being especially pulled by the Earth's gravity at times. What do you think? Charlotte King said she actually made high voltage light bulbs go out, and made cameras go blank. This tends to happen when spirits are present, too, who also have EMFs that are often high.

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So, when do you leave?

Cruises are a blast. I sure could use a tan! I hate being Irish. We have no pigment. It is just plain unfair! Thank all of your Italian-Hispanic relatives!

We leave on October 27th! Yay! I'm not a sun person anymore, so basically all I'll do is walk around, eat, walk, eat, eat and eat.

Re the EMF thing...I've always thought I've got something like that going on because I kill watch batteries...I gave up wearing regular watches because the battery dies after only a few months...doesn't matter how expensive it is either...I've had really expensive watches and really cheap watches. I finally had to get solar watches.

Tom, I'll be in SJ from Aug 6-10th. I don't know yet what I'm doing the evening of the 10th. No hotel plans. I might be sleeping in my rental car! Aug 11th-21st is my spiritual retreat at Asilomar near Monterey. Anyhoo, when do you get in to SJ? PM me! I'm ready for a close encounter of the Rachelville kind .

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Donna, I have done that before, but not very often. It's like totally negating your treatment. And throwing your money away!

Well PM me too...if I can I'll pop by too for a meet up.

Okay, I like your statement on throwing month away and negating treatment. Must remember, must remember, must remember.

[dlp252]

Yes, Donna--I'm so happy for you that you'll be able to go on the cruise after all.

Me too!!!!!

[Rachel--24]

Well, I can't read page 1399....so can't respond to anything there. I haven't had this problem in quite a few weeks now.

Donna,

I just started having this problem again last night. WTH??

I'm thinking its something that occurs in our area....dont know what it could be...but its gotta be some local thing slowing everything down. My pages just started loading really slow again as well.

Rachel - I'm just so fascinated about this LED stuff. I ran into Scott at BioSET today and we talked for a long time...he had just come from his second LED treatment. He didn't have much to report on progress...it's a little too soon to tell he said, but he's optimistic. He's also doing the IRT (or going to do it). Anyway, I mentioned that you just had your initial "exam"...he said he'd email you, but it won't be until at least tomorrow cuz of his treatment. He did say he was tired after his first treatment, but he felt fine this time and looked like he meant it, lol.

Yeah...I'm pretty fasicnated by all this too.

I sent him an email earlier today. I think I saw him online this morning but I guess he had a treatment after that....so yeah....he cant get on the computer now. I'm surprised he was at BioSET...I would think the computers and all the stuff around there would interfere.

He had mentioned that he knew of someone who felt a huge lift after the first treatment for sulfa. I'm hoping for something like that but I'll just have to wait and see how things go.

Sulfa is actually one of my biggest issues that showed up in the testing. That was what Amy wanted to find out with the Asyra but I'm not sure if shes ever looked at those results yet.

From the testing I had Wednesday it seems like the sulfa issue is significant for me.

My energy was blocked by these things..

Metal

Jewelery

Sulfa

Hg (mercury)

then the other toxins affecting my health...

Sulfa

Mercury

Dioxin

PCB

Hanta Virus

Candida

12 & 20 foods (different foods and food chemicals like phenols)

Thio (Not sure what that abbrev. stands for?)

Amm Caus (Again, not sure about the abbrev.)

Babesia

Borrelia

Parvo

Coxsackie

Aspergillus

While he was testing me he stopped and put 2 vials in my lap. It was the only time he put any vials in my lap. Then he showed me what was happening. I'm not sure exactly all that he was doing and I cant tell by listening to the recording but I know that he had it so my arm was testing strong...and then he added something and my arm was weak.

He was saying that with my arm going weak....it basically shows him that I'm "testable"....because what he was doing *should* weaken me....and it did....quite profoundly he said.

He showed me..."See...here you are strong." and then "See...now you couldnt hold your arm up if you wanted to."

He said what was he was doing was weakening me profoundly and even morseo with the two things in my lap...one of them was sulfa...and the other mercury.

He said what it tells him is that not only are those toxic for me...but they are actually affecting me energetically. I said "So they're messing me up pretty good?"

He said "Yeah...they are...they're messing you up pretty good."

As for the sulfa chemicals....he said the things like cysteine, glutathione...the systems that the body inately uses to try to do its best dealing with detoxification are poisoned by those chemicals. He said they find them at autopsies in striking amounts....in all of the tissue of the body, in the bones, in the joints, in the brain, in the spinal cord....anywhere they look they find the sulfa chemicals.

They're basically used for making suds....a foaming agent.....cuz we're a nation thats addicted to suds. We needs suds or we think we're not getting clean.

Its soooo true too!! When I use the chemical free stuff...there is no suds...and I'm using like half a bottle cuz I dont feel like its doing anything!

He said its not true...we dont need the suds to get clean...but still....even this morning I used massive amounts of non-sudsy shampoo.

I thought maybe if I keep adding more and more it will get maybe a teeny bit sudsy.

So I asked him how long I have to avoid the SLS's....and he said "Forever...for the rest of your life."

I thought he was kidding so I started laughing...but he wasnt laughing.

I said "Are you serious??"

Yup...he was serious. I have to be sud-free from now on.

OMG....I'm gluten free, dairy free, grain free, sugar free, soy free, etc, etc.......and NOW I have to be SUDS-FREE too!!!

Its a heinosity.

[Rachel--24]

Rachel, I did my ART testing with my arm and kinesiology . Don't know why my practitioner does it different than yours. However, the muscle testing was different than with the other muscle testing I've done. Sometimes, having the arm weak was a good thing .

With ART I have never had my own arm tested. When Scott tested me he had someone assisting him. That person had one hand on my body at all times and HIS arm was tested...Scott was testing his arm to get the response from my autonomic nervous system.

Its the same when I see Dr. Amy...she is testing me and its her own arm which is being tested by Scott. She is doing all the work and Scott is just testing her arm. I do nothing but lay there.

In ART they can switch so that the weak arm is good...or the weak arm is bad.

When I had the regular kinesiology on Wednesday he actually used his own muscle for parts of the testing. There was alot of vials to get tested so for that part he just took my fingers and ran them over the vials and he used his own arm as a "surrogate" to make it easier and to give my own arm a rest.

After he had identified all of the "bad" ones using his own arm....he then took those and retested them with my arm for verification.

[AndreaB]

Ok Donna. This is the second post on page 1399. I quoted the whole thing so you can pick what you want to search on. It seemed to have enough choices.....the starbucks drink or the stress stuff.

OMG....I totally cracked up when I saw Susan's post!!

But seriously....I always forget what its called.

When I typed it I thought it was the right name...and now I'm just really confused!!

I never know if its called crappacino or frappacino??

And right now I'm totally cracking up because I just realized its NEITHER...its a caramel macchiatto that I like!!

Um...yeah....brainfog is apparantly still a big problem for me.

I've actually been confused when ordering and I think I told them I wanted a frappacino...or crappacino instead of caramel macchiato. I dunno what happened...I just remember getting some coffee drink with ICE.....instead of the yummy warm macchiato with whip cream on top.

It was VERY dissapointing to say the least.

That was when I was so very lost in the fog.

Patti....this Dr. literally asked my body questions.

He was asking me stuff which I think was part of determining whether or not I had emotional stress.

Then he was asking me to say stuff like "I am going to get better" "I want to get better" "I deserve to get better"....stuff like that....he was testing me and my arm was strong.

Then he said "Well thats good because if your arm went weak for those things we'd have a heck of a time getting you better."

At first I thought he was just joking with those things but now I think he was serious...he was really testing me to see how my body responded.

On my challenge sheet there is a big 0 next to subconcious/emotional stress.

They always add stuff into the LED treatments for emotional issues anyway....but it doesnt look like I have anything seriously blocking me. My BioSET lady had tested me once like this too...and she also said that there was no big emotional stuff getting in the way.

[tom]

Well, I can't read page 1399....so can't respond to anything there. I haven't had this problem in quite a few weeks now.

I think know to get around this by fiddling w/ the url.

I think it's just betw your pc & server.

The url for this page (well, 1400 anyway), is

http:// www .glutenfreeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=16736&st=20985

(Spaces added to make it non-clickable)

That last # is STart #.

You can change it from 20985 to 20971 to see p1399. Most browsers show whole url at the top.

We're going to Mazatlan, Cabo San Lucas and Puerta Vallarta.

<envy>

[Rachel--24]

memory aint quite what it used to be though I'm pretty sure I could at least remember to pee in a cup when I go in for a urine test at a doctor's office

OMG....

I totally missed that the first time I read your post!! I was thinking "What the heck is he talking about...why is he bringing up urine tests??"

I guess I've still got quite a bit of brainfog going on.

Very funny Charlie.

I do think the muscle tests are only as good as the person who's doing them. So far I havent had any "bad eggs".

The testing is alot more sensitive then any bloodtests.....an example is the aspergillus thing with me. It shows up very clearly and very strongly in all the muscle testing as well as the electro dermal screening (BioSET)....but it didnt show up in blood at all. Same with Babesia.

I think its a good idea to get yourself tested for the metals...I would be surprised if it wasnt an issue. The Dr. I saw on Wednesday for LED said that people who are sick with Lyme never just have Lyme....they have so many other things.

I was asking him about mercury and Lyme...why are they always together? Is the mercury there first?

He said its a real "chicken and egg" question and he doesnt know the answer.

So then I asked him if Lyme can have the same effect as mercury...as far as interfering with the detox system and allowing for other toxins to build up...including the metals?

He said yeah....but when you start looking at people with Lyme they never just have one infection. They have multiple infections....they have viruses...Herpes...lots of other infections...they may have other tick borne diseases (Babesia, Erlichia, Bartonella, RMSF). They have toxins...heavy metals...all kinds of stuff so its not ever just the Lyme he said.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for a good experience with your muscle tester.

Cant wait to hear how about it.

I dont know if you saw this...I posted it once before but its a really good article on detox stuf that you might be interested in.

Open Original Shared Link

I dont think it mentions anything about jumping on trampolines though. I'll have to let Scott know he missed the boat on that one.

[NoGluGirl]

Dear Patti,

Wow, that is so funny that your husband listened to C2C! A lot of topics Wicca deals with are on there as well. They have OOBEs, NDEs, and all kinds of other stuff! (Out of Body Experiences, Near-Death Experiences). I think that Charlotte King is onto something. They were discussing how the geological events make people sick and put them in pain. It really made sense to me.

Dear Donna,

That is interesting about you and watches. I am not surprised. I think I may blow the lightbulbs in the kitchen. Plus, there is that stuff flying off the shelf sometimes. When I try to do it, I can't. How annoying is that?

I bet you cannot wait until late October! Maybe they will have an El Dia De Los Muertos celebration on board! That would be really fun! Eat some stuff for me! The food is most of the trip for me, too!

Dear Rachel,

I did not know sulfates were found in excess in autopsies! They are used to protect the body. How interesting! I never heard that despite all of the forensics shows I watch! Would you believe it?

The suds is a major bummer! I know that sulfate is in my hair products. I do not know what else I could use! It is in practically everything! Having color-treated hair, it is a must!

Dear Claire,

That doctor's office better get it together! It is annoying when they do not do things like that. It is like you can wait, no matter what. Those people need to be in a job that does not require being with people. They are too rude and too lazy.

It would be really neat if you and tom got to see each other! You guys could meet and hangout at the Jazz Fest. SJ sounds like a neat place. I am sure tom could point out some great places for safe food. He has lived there, and will soon be moving back. I wish I could meet you guys!

Perfumes are bad. I try to avoid them whenever possible. Both of my parents where that type of thing, and Dad smokes on top of that! Today, he was smoking, and it came across the room, and I started choking and had to get out of the room! You probably were reacting to the perfume and not the food at that meeting. Sometimes my throat stays scratchy for a while.

The spiritual retreat sounds nice. Where is it? What do you do there? I could use one of those. Going to Salem would be wonderful!

Sincerely,

Jin