Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[jerseyangel]

Hi Andrea,

Are you feeling better today? I agree about the size of those cookies. I love the Snickerdoodles, and have to make myself put them away after a couple of them, or I could eat the whole box

[dlp252]

Donna, my grandparents went on an Alaskan cruise years ago. They had a costume party, but my grandparents hadn't brought a costume, so they took their sheets off their beds and went as icebergs! They won the competition!

Must remember that if it looks like people are dressing up.

Years ago, on my senior trip, I went to Austria. The little pub in the town we were staying in had a costume night. None of us had anything to dress up in, just the things we brought for the trip.

Anyway, my girlfriend and I decided to wear our bathrobes ..Of course, we were fully dressed underneath...

One of my fondest memories was waltzing to The Blue Danube, in Salzberg, Austria, in a little pub with a young man from Sweden--in my bathrobe

Some sort of cumulative effect that prevents a bump up to a whole new level of feeling good.

It seems possible that even just a once-a-week 'treat' can prevent a quantum LEAP in overall goodness.

Yeah, I definitely get the cumulative affect. Wish sometimes I got the bad reaction on the first bite, but unfortunately don't. Very hard to NOT rachel stuff.

You may surprise yourself and find you don't mind it so much once you get through it. Hang in there!

Nope, I've already decided I'm done with it. I'm waking up in the middle of the night with anxiety attacks. I don't get anxiety attacks. I've just decided that that's what they are...that's what they feel like.

You'll do fine. Like Andrea said, you may find you like it.

See my response directly above. :lol:

[AndreaB]

Hi Andrea,

Are you feeling better today?

Better. The headache is at a dull roar right now. Hopefully it won't get to more than that. I don't get these too often. I think stress makes them worse.

[AndreaB]

Donna,

What time were you up again? I think you said songs were at 9 and 10:30?

[diamondheart]

I asked Scott if they test for Parvo, Coxsackie and Hanta virus in ART...because they showed up in my testing on Wednesday.

I never showed any problems with viruses in ART or BioSET.

He said that in ART if viruses (as a group) arent a big stressor....they dont usually go looking for each individual one after that.

He said he has a tester for Parvo and Coxsackie but he doesnt think he has Hanta virus.

So I'm assuming that since ART is looking for the biggest stressors on the autonomic nervous system...its not gonna pick up these smaller things right away. The viruses might have showed up in ART way down the road after many layers.

I got tested for viruses in ART because Eve knew I had had some of the biggies. She also tested me for all other parasites except fungus. Since the fungus showed up as a problem on the Asyra testing, she didn't bother to do the ART/muscle testing on it.

What confused me about the mercury is that it showed up as a problem in ART but not in Asyra testing. Yes, she is doing my LED treatments based on my Asyra testing, not ART. She will retest me on Asyra now that my amalgams are all out. I guess she's not mixing and matching testing. What confused me was that if she knew that mercury is a big problem for me from the ART testing, why wouldn't she just put it in my treatment plan for the LED?

I've had a raging headache most of the day and am not very chatty......not that I usually am.....just quieter than normal......still reading along though.

Hope you feel better.

Claire

[covsooze]

Hello everyone

Has anyone here used hair analysis? Following my recent miscarriages, we decided to follow a pre-conception programme that tries to address health issues in preparation for pregnancy, particularly by hair analysis for vitamin & mineral levels and metal toxicity. Just wondered if anyone had any experience of it. It'll take about 3 weeks to get the results back. I'm fully expecting mine to be bad, but it'll be interesting to see what DH's results are as he's convinced he's healthy

Andrea - sorry to hear about your headache, they are really debilitating. Do you know what caused it? (sorry if you posted that already and I missed it).

Susie x

[NaomiL]

Do you guys still have the burning feet or did that clear up?

Do you have sore neck back muscles a lot and tender sensitive spots where you wouldn't want some one massaging those spots on your back?

Naomi

I'm doing Quinoa too, can you all handle Quinoa? we all like it with sundried tomatoes and hemp oil and hemp seeds. It's really easy to cook.

[diamondheart]

Has anyone here used hair analysis? Following my recent miscarriages, we decided to follow a pre-conception programme that tries to address health issues in preparation for pregnancy, particularly by hair analysis for vitamin & mineral levels and metal toxicity. Just wondered if anyone had any experience of it. It'll take about 3 weeks to get the results back. I'm fully expecting mine to be bad, but it'll be interesting to see what DH's results are as he's convinced he's healthy

Susie x

Hi Susie UK,

Sorry to hear about your miscarriages. I haven't done hair analysis. I chose not to have it done because I didn't see the point. It would only tell me if I was eliminating metals, not if I still had them in my body. I finally decided to get rid of my mercury amalgams because I'm trying to get pregnant too. My story is a bit more complicated. I made that decision based on ART testing I had done about a month ago. The remainder of my amalgams came out this morning. I'm still waiting for the numbing to wear off.

I'm getting up there in fertility age, so I decided to take out the amalgams as a precautionary measure for my fertility. Plus, I've read that the toxins in your body tend to go to your fetus as your survival is more important than the fetus when you are pregnant. As my ART lady says, the fetus is the mother's toxic dumping ground. So yeah, it's probably good to get those toxins out now, but miscarriages can be caused by other things. Here is a paper by Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt on the topic: Open Original Shared Link

Toxicity: during pregnancy and breastfeeding large quantities of toxins, up to one third of the mothers total body burden, are passed on to the fetus. Dental practices should warn mothers not to have mercury containing silver amalgam fillings placed during pregnancy. We know that a filling outgases 50% of its high mercury content over the first seven years of its existence. But, what about the mothers that have fillings?

Fillings should, ideally, come out before conception.

I post on another board about fertility issues. I'm a thread mistress on that board for a thread on using Chinese medicine with TTC. Here is a recent post of mine:

For all those of you who have questions about using acupuncture and Chinese herbs for recurrent miscarriage. There is a section on this in "The Infertility Cure", page 212-214. Here's an excerpt:

While miscarriages resulting from genetic defects and fetal developmental failures cannot and should not be thwarted, those caused by maternal reactions are preventable. Numerous pregnancy losses are the result of the same immunological factors and hormonal imbalances preventing pregnancy from occurring in the first place. Unfortunately, women with these problems all too often receive dismal results from their Western medical caregivers.

One of the most common reasons for early pregnancy loss is inadequate progesterone production, the same factor that causes luteal phase defect. Incorporating the treatments for the specific pattern that underlies the progesterone deficiency - be it Kidney Yang or Spleen Qi deficiency - will also enhance a woman's ability to carry the pregnancy until the placenta takes over its own progesterone production and prevent miscarriage differ according to the pattern underlying the deficiency. If your progesterone deficiency is caused by Spleen Qi deficiency, taking a Blood deficiency formula won't resolve the condition.

(skipping a section on herbal formulas)

The key to treating recurrent miscarriage is twofold; first, prepare the body before conception; second, provide whatever assistance is necessary to encourage the body to retain the child until it is ready to be born. Sometimes this assistance can be minimal; at other times consistent care is required.

I think what she is saying in the last sentence is that for some women, they might not need much acupuncture and Chinese herbs to retain a pregnancy, while in other women, they might need a lot more.

If you haven't already done so, you might want to rule out genetic issues and progesterone deficiency. They usually check your progesterone a certain number of days after you ovulate. Age is also a factor. I don't know if you've done any reading on that? Chinese medicine can usually help with the age issue. Immunology is another possible factor.

Here's the link to that thread, if you want to check the whole thing out: Open Original Shared Link

Claire

[jerseyangel]

Do you guys still have the burning feet or did that clear up?

Do you have sore neck back muscles a lot and tender sensitive spots where you wouldn't want some one massaging those spots on your back?

Hi Naomi

Welcome! I used to get the burning on the bottom of my feet--that has gone away completely gluten-free. I've been gluten-free for 2 years, and my neck muscles still get sore when I get a gluten reaction. I can't stand to have anyone massaging my neck or back--it is very uncomfortable.

[diamondheart]

Yes, I had my last remaining amalgam fillings removed this morning. I'm still waiting for the novacane to wear off. I had one big filling replaced and two small ones. I sure hope they don't hurt afterwards . I have a feeling that big one is going to hurt. I can already start to feel it. The dentist messed around with my other filling that was replaced 3 weeks ago. It still hurts when I chew. He was going to replace that filling and wait to do the other amalgams, but I preferred to have the amalgams taken out. I'll wait another 3 weeks to see if it gets better before I act on replacing it. I just hope I can eat without being in pain the next 3 weeks. I sure hope I did the right thing .

When I had the first filling replaced, I was very excited. All the mercury amalgam is out of my mouth now, but I'm not all that excited. With all the stress at work and home the last couple of weeks, I'm not feeling all that happy .

The dental assistant was someone from a temp agency since the other assistants were on vacation. She had never worn a respirator before for mercury removal and I didn't get the impression she was familiar with safe mercury removal. She did a better job with the suction than the other assistant, but I could feel a little water leak under the dental dam when she was washing it off. I hope I didn't get a little extra mercury from that . I'm trying not to worry about it.

After I got home from the dentist, I mixed some chlorella in water and swished it in my mouth for 10 minutes and spit it out. I read somewhere on the internet to do this to bind any mercury in your mouth, but I can't find the website now. With my first amalgam removed, I couldn't tolerate keeping the chlorella water in my mouth for more than a minute at the most. I wonder if it was because I still had amalgam in my mouth? This time, it was no problem. I took more chlorella, 4 grams of Vitamin C, took a shower, and cleaned my nasal passages with a neti pot. I don't like inhaling the dust that comes off of the composite as they are filing down . I would try to hold my breath when he was filing. I wonder how much mercury I ingested when they did put those amalgams in way back when !! Now I'm ready for a nap!

Looks like I'll have to put off my IVF cycle for another month because of DH's business. I guess it will give me more time to detox. Gotta try to look on the bright side.

Claire

[AndreaB]

What confused me about the mercury is that it showed up as a problem in ART but not in Asyra testing. Yes, she is doing my LED treatments based on my Asyra testing, not ART. She will retest me on Asyra now that my amalgams are all out. I guess she's not mixing and matching testing. What confused me was that if she knew that mercury is a big problem for me from the ART testing, why wouldn't she just put it in my treatment plan for the LED?

Your LED treatments will be determined by ASYRA since you're having that done. The ASYRA finds what is of the most concern on the first layer from what it sounds like and then once those are dealt with, it will deal with what comes us during the next ASYRA run.

I'm so happy you were able to get your teeth taken care of. I will be starting that process is a little over a year.

Andrea - sorry to hear about your headache, they are really debilitating. Do you know what caused it? (sorry if you posted that already and I missed it).

I've had a hair analysis done and my doctor used that to see what minerals needed to be increased before going through any kind of chelation. He doesn't use that alone though for determining toxicity. I'm going to be going through the laser treatments in another year or two. My children are starting through them now.

My headache is more than likely stress induced as I started worrying about the food budget again yesterday. We never seem to have what we need but at the same point if we don't pursue treatments our diet is going to continue getting less varied. It's already hard to fix dinner for everyone and we don't have much variety there.

[AndreaB]

Looks like I'll have to put off my IVF cycle for another month because of DH's business. I guess it will give me more time to detox. Gotta try to look on the bright side.

I'm sorry about the stress you've been dealing with. It's good that you got your teeth taken care of. I hope they don't hurt for three weeks again too.

I know it's hard, but do try and look at the bright side.......it will give you more time to detox and supplement whatever is needed as well as doing LED treatments. Everything will be better in your body with less toxins.

[dlp252]

Claire, congratulations on getting the last of the amalgams out!!! Yes, I'm hoping they won't hurt!!!

Donna,

What time were you up again? I think you said songs were at 9 and 10:30?

They almost always have us do one of our songs right as the service begins, but I'm pretty sure it won't be the one with my solo...I'm almost positive they'll have us do that song during communion, which is even worse, lol. The second song can be anytime between 9:05 and 10:30 or so...depends on when they do the communion. It might also be during the offering.

Has anyone here used hair analysis?

Yep, had it done in April. Mine didn't show much, so don't discount the test if it doesn't show high levels of metals. My doctor explained it by saying it COULD mean I don't have high levels of metals (except silver...I WAS high in silver), but it could also mean that my body is just not letting go of the metals, which is more likely the case because I do not detox well. I'm pretty sure that with the lyme, mold and candida issues, I'm holding on to all the metals.

Do you guys still have the burning feet or did that clear up?

Do you have sore neck back muscles a lot and tender sensitive spots where you wouldn't want some one massaging those spots on your back?

...

I'm doing Quinoa too, can you all handle Quinoa? we all like it with sundried tomatoes and hemp oil and hemp seeds. It's really easy to cook.

My feet have not really ever burned, but they have been painful. My skin feels like it has a bad sunburn sometimes where it even hurts if my clothing touches my skin...that's better than it was. It used to happen almost daily, but now only happens once in a while.

My neck is still very sore. I have a high tolerance for pain so I am able to have massages, but it does hurt, and there are spots on my back that are very painful.

Can't handle quinoa...I never really had enough of it to see how badly I react to it because the taste was not pleasant to me, but I did have small reactions to it...mostly gas.

[CarlaB]

Has anyone here used hair analysis?

I did. It can reveal a lot, but not everything.

An example, mine showed aluminum and mercury, but when I did a DMPS challenge/urine test it showed I was toxic in lead and mercury was slightly elevated. So, the hair analysis showed that my body is getting rid of aluminum and mercury. Some who are the most toxic in metals and hang onto them will show no metals at all in the hair analysis.

I think the most important thing in the hair analysis is having someone who can interpret it. Sorry to hear about your miscarriages.

Yes, I had my last remaining amalgam fillings removed this morning.

YAY! That is great news!

Was the one you had done last time hitting wrong? My daughter's ended up needing to be filed down a little and now it's fine. I don't know why he'd need to redo the whole thing.

Mine are usually sensitive to hot/cold for MONTHS. My dentist said it all depends on how deep the filling is and something to do with the nerve in the tooth.

[miamia]

oh my god so this morning i was feeling very settled i decided not to go away and was ok with it. I got stuff done and had my physical therapy appt to look forward too........ and than i had lunch

I had such an extreme reaction to something i ate. I really forgot how bad my reactions could get it has been months since anything like this happened i spent this entire day practicly crying hysterically , i am still in so much discomfort i don't know what to do, i think trying just to get in bed is the best thing but lying down does not sound good. I am just preying that tomorrow this willl ahve abated alittle but i usually actually get worse ont he 2nd and 3rd day- i really hope this is not one of those times.

[miamia]

oh my god so this morning i was feeling very settled i decided not to go away and was ok with it. I got stuff done and had my physical therapy appt to look forward too........ and than i had lunch

I had such an extreme reaction to something i ate. I really forgot how bad my reactions could get it has been months since anything like this happened i spent this entire day practicly crying hysterically , i am still in so much discomfort i don't know what to do, i think trying just to get in bed is the best thing but lying down does not sound good. I am just preying that tomorrow this willl ahve abated alittle but i usually actually get worse ont he 2nd and 3rd day- i really hope this is not one of those times.

[NoGluGirl]

Dear Donna,

I can see why you would be nervous. I am sorry you are having panic attacks. I have had stage fright for a long time. The stuff Carla told us about is worth a try. I am fine if I do not have time to get nervous.

Impromptu performances were not so hard to deal with. I did not have any time to worry! No matter if it was a speech or anything else, I had no time to freak out. That works best for me. This is why I think I might see if there is an open mike night for the comedy club. I will worry myself sick if I have to sign-up for anything.

The cruise will be a wonderful rest! The Halloween party should be fun, too! It is a sabbat. I am hoping to actually get the chance to celebrate it properly this year! I will be a Witch, of course!

Dear Rachel,

It is probably good the hemp seeds to not cause the same effect as a joint! People would walk around stoned who ate them! My father said you could smoke a banana peel and get the same feeling. Smoking in general is a no-no for me! I cannot breathe!

I know what you mean about the munchies! Sometimes, you are so hungry, you do not know what to do! What I really hate is when I am hungry, but cannot find anything I am in the mood for. I love flavor. I hate bland food. I am like Ms. Pac-Man sometimes!

Dear tom,

I agree that just because you tolerate something does not mean it is good for you! I can tolerate peanut butter, but it is loaded with mold. I had to be given up! I had not eaten it for five days, but decided to treat myself to some Thai Kitchen Peanut Noodles. On top of the peanuts, there are a ton of dried spices like black pepper, cinnamon, cloves, and scallions. All of that mold did me in!

No more of that for a while! Maybe once I get rid of the yeast. For now, I had better watch those! It figures. Anything that is really tasty is a no-no!

Meanwhile, I hope you take pics of the meeting with Claire and Donna in SJ! We all wish we could be there! It would be so much fun! At least there is probably a PF Chang's there. Why couldn't we have one? My friend lives out in Antelope, and the are lucky enough to have one! Homemade is definitely healthier.

Did you say you know how to make your own crackers? I have tried in the past, but none turned out well. I wish I had a good recipe for rice crackers. Buying them is expensive. I also could use the recipe to recreate Cheez-Its.

Dear Carla,

I do not blame you about being careful with the gluten still. You do not want to overburden yourself. It is nice to think that Big Macs can be an occaisional treat! I doubt that is the case with me.

However, I could reinvent it to be gluten-free since I have that "Top Secret Recipes" book.

That is so hilarious about your grandparents winning the costume contest! Who would have thought of going as an iceburg? How smart! I have a couple of good ideas for costumes. One is Demona from Gargoyles. The other is Major Kusanagi from GITS:SAC.

Dear Mia,

I am anxious to hear the details about your move! Where is it? Is it a new apartment, or a home? Are you moving out of state? Does it have to do with your career?

The IVs might help you. It varies from person to person. I can see why you would be concerned. This is a delicate situation. Your sensitivity to everything makes it impossible not to worry.

You made the right decision. Intuition is never wrong. I know you hate missing out, but if you are not going to enjoy it, there is no point in being there. That is the reason you go on vacation. This would have cause you more stress than anything at the moment. Your frail condition would only be worsened.

I am sorry you had such a bad reaction. Laying down is painful sometimes. I know what that is like. Sometimes, I do better when I am up and about a little. Feel better soon! HUGS!

Dear Patti,

What a nice memory! A young Swede, huh? That sounds great! At least you had a robe to wear! Waltzing is an art, too!

Dear Claire,

Maybe you should detox more before the IVF. Perhaps waiting is a good thing. Getting as much mercury out as possible is important. You will have a less difficult time conceiving that way, I would think. You will know when the time is right.

How are your teeth doing now? The numbing should have worn off a while ago. I hope you did not swallow any mercury at all. Using the chlorella likely helped a lot. I found it interesting that you did not have the discomfort as you had before. That is a good sign!

Dear Nikki,

Patti is naughtier than we thought! What do you know? Hey, who is that in your avatar?

Is that one of your sons? I know you have three teenage boys.

Dear Andrea,

You guys had cookies for lunch the other day? That sounds great! I love cookies! They are probably my biggest unhealthy favorite besides chocolate. I try to not eat them too often.

We worry about the food budget as well. This is difficult for many people. It helps for us to shop at Wal-Mart. They have organic stuff, too! We actually got a huge canteloupe for only 88 cents!

This was one big melon!

I hope your headache is going away. Those things can make everything difficult to deal with. Stress is a likely cause. My wisdom teeth are a large contributor. Somedays, they are full-body migraines.

Dear covsooze,

Salt baths are excellent for detox. Sometimes, they can hurt you more than help. Usually, it is due to too much of a good thing. Ten minutes is the best length to go by. Any longer than that, and it could mobilize toxins in too large a number and make you feel worse.

I have not done the hot/cold alternating showers. I cannot stand cold. Even lukewarm is too cold to me. I do not know why this is. Maybe my Fibromyalgia causes this.

Hair analysis has revealed toxic metals being present for some. My doctor wanted me to do it, but I have not been able to afford to. Maybe now I can. I am not sure if this is the type I want to do, because of the fact it does not always show up. If you are unable to excrete toxins, then this testing is not accurate.

Dear NaomiL,

I have some quinoa, but have not tried it yet. My doctor said it needs rinsed very well. Its outer shell is very bitter, and has a terrible taste. Rinsing it must be done thoroughly many times before cooking and eating it. I am nervous about trying it, because I have never had it before.

You asked about neck pain and stiffness. I get that all the time. I have Fibromyalgia, and it would hurt to get a massage. My muscles are very sensitive. The slightest touch can be very painful.

Dear Everyone,

Dad got a special delivery today. The company he works for sent an HP printer/copier/fax/scanner, pens, and notepads plus printing paper to the house for Dad until he gets an office! The last company he worked for never would have done that! In fact, he used to have to beg for everything, even stuff like toilet paper! Also, he will get paid weekly instead of every 1st and 15th of the month. No more going three weeks without pay!

Sincerely,

Jin

[christine 25]

Heres something that was very encouraging.

I had told him that I felt like my body was still strong...even with all this burden. I just feel like my body can recover with a little help....it really WANTS to recover but some things are getting in the way.

Later on he asked about my cycle....I told him its normal.....28 days...normal bleeding, etc. Only thing is I get really tired a day or two before.

I told him everything was messed up when I was on disability....totally irregular, really bad PMS, cramps....it was just heinous to go through it. Once I changed my diet....a week later I had my first normal period in the 2 years I'd been sick.

He said it just goes to show how much of an effect diet can have on our health.

So toward the end of my appt. he said that its a REALLY good sign that my periods are normal. He said its an affirmation of what I'd said earlier about my body still being strong despite everything.....that fundamentally things are still functioning.

He said that the menstrual cycle is one of the things that is sensitive to all kinds of insults....there are all kinds of things that can be going on with me that would throw that off. So if thats working well.....things cant be that broken.

Ohh great!

I like the sound of this new doctor.

I might be in trouble,

My periods have been irregular, long spotty weird, for the last 3 months. So I started the NUVA ring, last month to bring on a period, and shed the lining that was building up,,, its not bad, today is my 7 day week off. I put it back in tommorow.

Graphic,,, dont read if you dont want to...

3 days after the withdrawl of the rind, I had the most henious cramps and was passing flesh colored clots one the size of a golf ball. It looked like chicken skin, covered in blood. Okay, that was gross. Whoa! Has anyone experienced this before?

LOL!

ANyways, Im totally going through hormonal withdrawl and cant wait to put the ring back in tommorow.

THe weird thing is that my periods were regular up until I had composite resin fillings placed, and the root canals. WTH??? I know that composites have are mild xenoestrogens. Wondering if that extra estrogen from the chemicals in the composites disrupting my hormones. By the way the hormone panal is around 850$ cant affor it!

In the past I was tested when I had better insurance and I had slightly elevated free testosterone levels, I think 5 points over. So they dx me with PCOS.

But this is the first time ive ever had period heinosity.

I suspect a connection, as I cannot find anyother cause, and I always have an awful metallic taste in my mouth, where I have two leaky composites. Fell fat, tired and bloated. went from 130lbs to 148lbs since sep/06

THe delimma Im having is weither I should I go back to my normal dentist and have them replaced for free, or see a holistic guy. Since I dont know the cause,,, it could just be a leaky filling, that could be fixed by my dentist.

But I am worried that he will use the same stuff (not sure that is what I am allergic to?)

and I get more sick.

The freakin holistic dentist in my area doesnt take insurance, so I havent gone to him yet!! AHHH. Drama.

Im not sure what is causeing the bad taste if its the crowned root canals, or the composite resin cement. So I am clueless, and loosing hope at this point.

Does anyone have problems with leaky composite fillings? I need to figure out which ones to get. I need a safe filling material for my cavities, this is my concern, because obviously I am reaction to something. I would really hate to get my molars pulled, and then wind up with worse jaw pain and still bad symptoms, that is my fear.

I dont trust doctors in Ohio, its not very progressive here. THere is only one Hoslitic person.! UGH.

And who knows weither that is even the problem.

Otherwise,,, Im doing fine! lOL

Ohh by the way , hope all is well with everyone.

[diamondheart]

My headache is more than likely stress induced as I started worrying about the food budget again yesterday. We never seem to have what we need but at the same point if we don't pursue treatments our diet is going to continue getting less varied. It's already hard to fix dinner for everyone and we don't have much variety there.

I hear you about money, Andrea. I haven't bought new clothes in I don't know how long . I'm getting tired wearing the same thing all the time. All my extra cash is going to food and doctor's appointments. I'm getting healthy, but not very fashionable .

Well, the numbness has worn off, but I've been afraid to eat much . I finally got my chlorella. I had to go over to the ART-lady's house. She wasn't answering my calls and I was desperate. She had e-mailed me to come over today, but she looked pissed when I showed up! She didn't even say hi. Then, when I reminded her that she e-mailed me to come over and I'd just had the rest of my amalgams removed, she was all helpful and friendly .

Mine are usually sensitive to hot/cold for MONTHS. My dentist said it all depends on how deep the filling is and something to do with the nerve in the tooth.

Hmmm, well that's good to know! The dentist was all ready to replace it !

I am just preying that tomorrow this willl ahve abated alittle but i usually actually get worse ont he 2nd and 3rd day- i really hope this is not one of those times.

Miamia, I'm so sorry you had such a bad reaction! Could it have been something that you ate yesterday, or do you usually show reactions right after you eat something? My reactions show up 24-48 hours later, which used to drive me crazy trying to figure out what it was. Hope you feel better soon!

Claire

[diamondheart]

THe weird thing is that none of this started until I had composite resin fillings placed, and the root canals.

I suspect a connection, as I cannot find anyother cause, and I always have an awful metallic taste in my mouth, where I have two leaky composites.

Should I go back to my normal dentist and have them replaced for free? I am worried that he will use the same stuff and I get more sick.

The freakin holistic dentist in my area doesnt take insurance, so I havent gone to him yet!! AHHH. Drama.

Im not sure what is causeing the bad taste if its the crowned root canals, or the composite resin cement.

Does anyone have problems with leaky composite fillings? I need to figure out which ones to get.

I dont trust doctors in Ohio, its not very progressive here. THere is only one Hoslitic person.! UGH.

And who knows weither that is even the problem.

Hi Christine,

I've read a little about root canals being problematic, but couldn't tell you why. Maybe someone else can.

I haven't ever heard of composite resin fillings leaking, but maybe the material they used doesn't agree with your body. My dentist gave me 4 types of resin to have checked. I had my ART lady muscle test them, and only one of them worked. I've also heard you can have a blood test done by one of two labs here in Colorado to figure out which dental material works best for your body.

I do know that composite resin fillings don't last as long as the amalgam fillings. I probably should have my composite resin filling that was done 5 years ago replaced, but I had to prioritize and get the mercury out first!

None of my dentists take insurance. But, I can send the bills to my insurance and they will reimburse a good portion of it. I only have to pay a little more than if it was an in-network dentist. Check your health insurance and see what they cover. I think it's pretty typical that a lot of dentists do not take insurance, but insurance companies will still cover more with out-of-network dentists than out-of-network doctors.

Claire

[christine 25]

oh my god so this morning i was feeling very settled i decided not to go away and was ok with it. I got stuff done and had my physical therapy appt to look forward too........ and than i had lunch

I had such an extreme reaction to something i ate. I really forgot how bad my reactions could get it has been months since anything like this happened i spent this entire day practicly crying hysterically , i am still in so much discomfort i don't know what to do, i think trying just to get in bed is the best thing but lying down does not sound good. I am just preying that tomorrow this willl ahve abated alittle but i usually actually get worse ont he 2nd and 3rd day- i really hope this is not one of those times.

Mia, you are very stong!

I am sorry you are in pain. I also hope that you feel better soon. You deserve it!

[NoGluGirl]

Dear Christine,

Well, I have been having hormonal problems as well. Those clots are not too uncommon. A lot of women get them. I have had a period off and on for over two years now. My doctor said the Depo is probably causing it.

I would not be surprised if the problems you are having are related to the fillings. Hormones are very easily effected by poisons. I have composites only, and need one more. I either need to get a root canal or extraction on the one molar. I am relieved to say that I found out my teeth are not like Dad's!

Dear Claire,

That is so strange about the ART lady. I wonder what was up with that? Talk about extreme moodiness! I have had nurses like that, and techs when I had procedures done. There is no telling what the deal is with some of these people.

I so know the feeling of needing more money! I have not gotten new clothes in an eternity either! It sucks that everyone else seems to get new clothes all the time. I really need a good pair of basic heels. God it sucks not having money!

The dentist I go to takes insurance. I do not have any, though. My grandfather is paying for my teeth to be taken care of. Thank goodness he is! I would never have been able to afford it otherwise!

Sincerely,

Jin

[christine 25]

Hi Christine,

I've read a little about root canals being problematic, but couldn't tell you why. Maybe someone else can.

I haven't ever heard of composite resin fillings leaking, but maybe the material they used doesn't agree with your body. My dentist gave me 4 types of resin to have checked. I had my ART lady muscle test them, and only one of them worked. I've also heard you can have a blood test done by one of two labs here in Colorado to figure out which dental material works best for your body.

I do know that composite resin fillings don't last as long as the amalgam fillings. I probably should have my composite resin filling that was done 5 years ago replaced, but I had to prioritize and get the mercury out first!

None of my dentists take insurance. But, I can send the bills to my insurance and they will reimburse a good portion of it. I only have to pay a little more than if it was an in-network dentist. Check your health insurance and see what they cover. I think it's pretty typical that a lot of dentists do not take insurance, but insurance companies will still cover more with out-of-network dentists than out-of-network doctors.

Claire

Hi Claire,

Thank you for responding to my post.

First of all Im jealous, that you have an ART lady. Where do I get one of those in columbus ohio? LOL

...I thought doing my own taxes was hard, I fee like I need a medical secretary to go out and find all these people, it is simply exausting!

I will look into it and do what I can, to get myself better. This has gone on long enough, something needs to be done, by an alternative person, who is more openminded, and better suited to deal with my particualr issues, cause Im pretty sure no regualr doctor is going to take me seriously.

'END RANT"

[AndreaB]

........ and than i had lunch

I had such an extreme reaction to something i ate. I really forgot how bad my reactions could get it has been months since anything like this happened i spent this entire day practicly crying hysterically , i am still in so much discomfort i don't know what to do, i think trying just to get in bed is the best thing but lying down does not sound good. I am just preying that tomorrow this willl ahve abated alittle but i usually actually get worse ont he 2nd and 3rd day- i really hope this is not one of those times.

I'm so sorry Miamia. I hope this is a short reaction for you.

Dad got a special delivery today. The company he works for sent an HP printer/copier/fax/scanner, pens, and notepads plus printing paper to the house for Dad until he gets an office!

Good news. Has he had any luck looking for an office?

Claire, Yikes with the ART lady. Glad she reversed her scowl when she heard why you were there.

[tom]

My father said you could smoke a banana peel and get the same feeling.

LOL!! He sure never felt what *I* felt.

Meanwhile, I hope you take pics of the meeting with Claire and Donna in SJ! We all wish we could be there! It would be so much fun! At least there is probably a PF Chang's there.

Awww now a pic won't be a surprise!!

PF Chang's is maybe a 4min brisk walk from where Claire will be. Maybe 6-10 if taking in the scene on the way.

Stupid fences might alter that. JazzFest is free for ~18yrs and now it's the 2nd year of a charge. A charge means fences. Fences everywhere. 9 stages over maybe 6 blocks. Don't fence me in!!!!!! (Or out)

Did you say you know how to make your own crackers?

Well I do *now*!!

It started by mistake.

Flatbread batter too thick and not done in the middle but easy to peel sides apart. They quickly became thin crackers.

Dear NaomiL,

I have some quinoa, but have not tried it yet. My doctor said it needs rinsed very well. Its outer shell is very bitter, and has a terrible taste. Rinsing it must be done thoroughly many times before cooking and eating it. I am nervous about trying it, because I have never had it before.

Quinoa sure gets a bad rap on this thread.

The kind in a box (and in separate plastic bag inside box) does NOT need rinsing.

Pre-rinsed.

I don't think your doctor ate much quinoa.

I've never rinsed it nor ever seen sister or mom rinse it.

My sister's small boys like quinoa!!!

You just flavor it w/ spices or vegs like a rice pilaf or a thousand other ways.

I've made a gluten-free tabbouli w/ it and it was deeeeeeeee-lish!

If bought in bulk it does need a quick rinsing. But NOT some OCD multiple times nonsense.

P.S.

Mia - so sorry to hear your day went like that. Maybe there's a new pattern and tomorrow isn't worse.

Ditto everything everyone else said, too.

And I too wonder if you have delayed reactions.

Christine - very nice job on the warning before things I'd rather not read. Thx

Jin!!! No warning from u at ALL in your reply to Christine!

W/out rules & such it's just Anarchy!!!!!

ANARCHY I TELL YA!!!!!