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Rachel--24

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tom Contributor
tom
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And, yeah, hands down, we can handle pain better.

Is this still about whether I could block Donna from some cookies?

Or are we now both armed w/ Tasers . . ..

:ph34r:

Umm, to prove what, that you can Google better than everyone else????

Oh Carla Carla Carla . . . . . puh-LEEEEEZ! Have u forgotten I would google far slower than anyone who's on an actual pc? :rolleyes:

And of course, the parameters of any such face-off remain unset.

I would propose a conference call or Instant Messaging.

For someone who's never owned a racquet, I know a great deal about tennis. I've set alarms for 4am to watch Wimbledon quarters ferpetessake!!

I realize it's trivia, but who else know Rafi Nadal's coach is Uncle Tony & where he grew up? Or at what age Sharapova moved to FL and the most told story of her early yrs in the US? Or what became of the guy who stabbed Monica on-court?

Etc etc etc yada-yada ad infinitum . . . . .

So don't go reducing my challenge to some pedestrian google-thon!!!!! :P :P

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dlp252 Apprentice
dlp252
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Rachel better come back soon...we are SOOOOO off our scientificness. :lol:

Yeah, I've even tried to make my own chocolate...THAT didn't turn out well at all. :lol:

Ugh - do I *really* want to do that?

Yeah, after the day I've had at work, I wonder if *I* want to do that, lol.

The diet.......not much fun especially with all the driving. One of the things on my list was histamines and the only meat we can eat is turkey. I've discovered that histamine foods make me tired. I've had a hellacious time driving and being tired. Today I will not eat turkey until we get home. I was hoping that would help but I was up till 3 am because T woke up when daddy swung by to pick up some more food at 1:15 am, and I'm already tired.

Sorry T is having such a terrible time. Yeah, the lack of portableness to our diets here is really a bummer. Makes it really hard. I'm hoping I've dodged the jury duty bullet...just need to sweat out two more check-ins...if I get called it's going to be really hard. I'll have to bring a cooler everyday.

We do not care about easy when it comes to chocolate. The issue is getting some chocolate! :P You silly man!

Exactly! What Jin said.

Donna, why not get powdered Nystatin for the carpet ... just use it like those carpet powders! LOL

:lol: I might try it. :ph34r::lol:

One would regularly have all-natural locally-produced boneless skinless breasts for $1.88/lb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:o Wow, can't remember WHEN I might have seen a price like this!

Now, I have heard, and believe, that in a matter of decades, a woman may run a marathon faster than the top man - but, no offense, it won't be you, Donna.

I hate running, lol...don't run for nothin'.

In pursuit of chocolate, Donna could simply go to the Long's 4 doors over. Or the ^%@#%^#!* starbucks next door! Or the little cafe next to that!

Or to any number of other favorite chocolate stashes.

Donna? what time!!!?

My time. :lol:

Donna might just go to Starbucks instead! When chocolate calls, we answer! Chocolate is better than men for so many reasons. You can always depend on chocolate to make you happy. Men on the other hand, typically disappoint.

:lol:

And, yeah, hands down, we can handle pain better.

Umm, to prove what, that you can Google better than everyone else????

:lol:

NoGluGirl Contributor
NoGluGirl
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Dear tom,

Now you know we are teasing! :P Well, except for the chocolate being better than men part! I like trivia as well. Still, I cannot believe you do not own a tennis racket! :o What the heck? I have had an Agassi racket for nearly ten years!

Dear Donna,

We are way off base with Rachel gone. Where is she? Have you heard from her? I hope she is alright. Hopefully, she is just busy.

Making chocolate is not easy! Truffles are a real pain to make! I tried those before. It is tough. Now I know what I did wrong. Before I had no idea. Thank goodness for the Food Network! :)

Men are silly! Chocolate is way more important to us than they are! Can they comfort us the way it can? Absolutely not! Can men satisfy us the way it can? Again, the answer is no, not even on their best day. B)

I typically keep a chocolate stash at home. There is a special place for it! It is like jewelry, but edible. My favorite chocolate places are anywhere from the gas station to the grocery store. As long as it is gluten-free, we are good to go!

Sincerely,

Jin

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
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Tom, you totally ignored the comment that women are perfectly capable of making men weak ... therein lies our stregth!

Donna, have you tried my fudge recipe? It's chocolate ... can't remember if you can have almond butter though.

Tom, why weren't you here for the recent tennis match that they have every year? Big, big names come for it. Hmm, where am I?? LOL

tom Contributor
tom
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Tom, you totally ignored the comment that women are perfectly capable of making men weak ... therein lies our strength!

Hehe no no not ignored at all! Simply acknowledged and undisputed. :):lol:

If I'm being forced to comment on it, I'd have to say your phrasing is an understatement. Yes, even "perfectly capable". It's more than that. Capable implies having the means, if the will exists. The womanly "making men weak" is inherently unavoidable!! Y'all don't even have to TRY!!!!! :)

Tom, why weren't you here for the recent tennis match that they have every year? Big, big names come for it. Hmm, where am I?? LOL

Well, of course right now they're in Flushing Meadow, and I thought last week was the Rogers Cup - tho that alternates betw Toronto & Montreal and I *know* you're not there. Did the Pilot Pen happen in betw? (I've been a little busy here)

That tournament is in Cincy I believe.

(You'll say I looked it up, but you'd be dubya are oh en gee, bay-beeeeee) :P

I got some pretty good news today, but that's for a later post. ;)

dlp252 Apprentice
dlp252
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Carla, don't have (or haven't written it down yet) recipe. I think I am reacting to the almond butter...it's subtle but I still think I'm reacting. I DO think I can still have cashew butter, so could probably substitute. The only thing I think I might not be able to have yet is agave nectar. Maybe I could put just a touch of that in there and maybe a little stevia (which is what I normally use, but don't love the taste of). Oh, and the chocolate...that tested REALLY bad for me in BioSET, and I think she desensitized me, but every time I each chocolate I seem to react. Doesn't actually stop me I guess, although I really AM trying to avoid it. :P:lol:

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
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Crud, I don't know what key I hit that made me lose the post!

Anyway, Donna, you could probably use stevia ... I can't, it upsets my stomach ... one of the only things left that does ... it and apparently MSG.

Tom, nope, that one's in CT. The one here is the oldest tennis tournament in the US still played in its original city. It started in 1899 ... honestly, this was a small town back then, very small!

The house we just bought was built around that time. I keep meaning to take a picture of the entry hall to use as my avatar so you guys can see it!

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CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
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The womanly "making men weak" is inherently unavoidable!! Y'all don't even have to TRY!!!!! :)

I guess then that we agree that women are stonger ... perhaps that's why men show off so much athletically :lol: , they're trying to prove themselves!

tom Contributor
tom
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What the heck? I have had an Agassi racket for nearly ten years!

Then get back to using it!!!! ;)

Men are silly! Chocolate is way more important to us than they are! . . . . . Can men satisfy us the way it can?

I'd like Marbles' input on this one. :lol:

tom Contributor
tom
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I guess then that we agree that women are stonger ... perhaps that's why men show off so much athletically :lol: , they're trying to prove themselves!

If that means "to impress women and make other guys look unworthy of reproduction", then yes I agree.

Moose, Bighorn Sheep, etc etc - the one alpha male gets ALL the action. ;):):P:lol:

tom Contributor
tom
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Tom, nope, that one's in CT. The one here is the oldest tennis tournament in the US still played in its original city. It started in 1899 ... honestly, this was a small town back then, very small!

The house we just bought was built around that time. I keep meaning to take a picture of the entry hall to use as my avatar so you guys can see it!

Yes avatar!!!

Tennis? Hmmm I'm not looking it up, but I did hit a tennis news site for mobile devices - 2 sec load time - and it confirmed that LAST week was the Pilot Pen.

I think I deserve the pts for the original Q, which was "where did they play last wk?".

:P :P :P (is 3 enough? Ya) :lol:

I'm sure posting today!! Purposely staying in instead of exhausting myself out there for the 5th straight day. Well, ok I WAS out for 5 or 6 hrs.

Had a lunch talk w/ the Cypress Semi kid I trained who's now a Director. Uh-oh!! Gotta run! Buddy's band starts in 18 min! ( tyt.com ithink)

Clark Bent as Stupor-Man Contributor
Clark Bent as Stupor-Man
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Hi Charlie,

I just read your sister's story. I'm just speechless--thinking about all she has gone through. Thank goodness she has such a wonderful, supportive family. Your parents sound amazing. I will pray that this treatment is successful for her.

I plan to send a check to the address in the article--I know that wasn't your intent--but I want to. You guys aren't all that far away from me. Please, keep us posted on her.

Thank you, Patti. As you said, I wasn't trying to get anyone to donate money for her, just sharing this since I've discussed her situation on here previously. Of all the outlets I have to try to raise money, this would probably be the last since I know how much we are all already spending on our own medical bills and associated costs. But it is certainly appreciated, and I know my parents are grateful for any support, prayers and thoughts included.

As for everyone else, thanks for the well wishes. The trip could be at any point as she's now number 1 or maybe number 2 on the list, and will get a phone call at some unknown date with the appt. There's probably a few more points I'd like to add, but I'll try to post this weekend.

covsooze Enthusiast
covsooze
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Just been catching up on the last few pages having not been here in a few days. Smiling over the chocolate debate :lol: My DH hides choclate bars around the house when he buys them so that i can't eat them all at once :blink: However, I have now bit the bullet and am no longer in denial about being a moldie, so its no more choclate here either...

So, a question for those who are following the anti-candida diet. I've seen different opinions in different places about the things that should be cut out. I've read a lot on Whole Approach's website in the past. Anyone have any recommendations about which version of the diet to follow? Also, is it necessary to take the anti-fungals?

I went to the GP today to get my blood results. Having researched on the internet about vitamin and mineral deficiencies following my last miscarriage, I thought I probably had zinc deficiency, and the bloods confirm I do. My dr said to me he would never have thought of testing for it and that he's never treated anyone for zinc deficiency!! He said I shouldn't take zinc tablets in case I overdose but should eat zinc rich foods. My vitamin book says the best sources are oysters :wacko: and wheat germ. So I think I will be taking supplements....I think I need to see an alternative practioner..

Anyone heard from Rachel yet?

Susie x

covsooze Enthusiast
covsooze
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Donna - that's amazing about your flat and the candida :o Would steam cleaning be hot enough to kill it?

Should have added another question to my post above - is being sensitive to mold indicative of candida overgrowth? I ate some nuts a few days ago and one tasted moldy. My stomach griped up almost immediately and is still struggling to feel right. Are nuts with their shells on still likely to be moldy? I think I might have to be nut free for the duration.

Susie x

dlp252 Apprentice
dlp252
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Nope, haven't heard from Rachel...she probably has another treatment this afternoon, so we may not hear from her now until later in the weekend. I hope we haven't heard from her because she's out having a great time somewhere, or at the very worst that the last treatment just wore her out a bit more than it seemed.

no longer in denial about being a moldie

Must recite this to myself, must recite this to myself. Note to self: recite above 50 time

So, a question for those who are following the anti-candida diet. I've seen different opinions in different places about the things that should be cut out. I've read a lot on Whole Approach's website in the past. Anyone have any recommendations about which version of the diet to follow? Also, is it necessary to take the anti-fungals?

Good that you've discovered the zinc deficiency! Yeah, sometimes the alternative or integrated doctors think of these things long before a "regular" doctor would.

As far as the diet...I followed one that my doctor gave me about 4 or 5 years ago. I looked at the Whole Approach one, and it looks good too, but seemed in my mind a bit complicated. The one my doctor gave me was a bit strict, but there were really no other pieces to the puzzle...except for nystatin. He did prescribe nystatin while I was on the diet, but I have to admit I didn't refill that once it was gone. My insurance wouldn't pay for more than ONE pill of diflucan, so that's all I ever took of it. The nystatin was fine, but I just never could tell if it was helping or not and so decided to not take it.

I'm not currently taking any prescription antifungals. The only thing I'm taking directly for the candida is pau d'arco tea. I drink one cup a day, sometimes two. The other things I'm taking probably help with the candida, but are more for the lyme and mercury and general bacterial stuff. And, of course TRYING to limit sugar in all forms and most fermented or aged stuff. No mushrooms.

Donna - that's amazing about your flat and the candida :o Would steam cleaning be hot enough to kill it?

Should have added another question to my post above - is being sensitive to mold indicative of candida overgrowth? I ate some nuts a few days ago and one tasted moldy. My stomach griped up almost immediately and is still struggling to feel right. Are nuts with their shells on still likely to be moldy? I think I might have to be nut free for the duration.

I don't know if the steam would get hot enough. The last people that came out to clean it (several years ago) said the carpet was so old they wouldn't even recommend cleaning it, lol. :lol::ph34r: I've done it myself a couple of times since then with a home steam cleaner. I really just need to have it taken out and replaced with hardwood.

And re your second question. My old allergist thought so. That's one reason why he told me not to eat mushrooms, etc. I am actually allergic to mold...came up on every skin scratch testing I've ever had, AND on BioSET, and on blood tests, so yeah, I shouldn't be eating anything associated with mold, including nuts. :(

happygirl Collaborator
happygirl
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I'm off to the beach for a long weekend...Hope that you ALL have a wonderful weekend and get to relax.

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
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Tom, why weren't you here for the recent tennis match that they have every year? Big, big names come for it. Hmm, where am I?? LOL

Nope, not last week. ;)

I'd like Marbles' input on this one. :lol:

Well, chocolate cravings indicate a magnesium deficiency and I've supplemented magnesium for a long time, so I can take it or leave it. The man in my life is WAY more important than chocolate!!!

If that means "to impress women and make other guys look unworthy of reproduction", then yes I agree.

Moose, Bighorn Sheep, etc etc - the one alpha male gets ALL the action. ;):):P:lol:

:lol::lol::lol:

Kind of like VPL's, Tom, you all are doing it for each other. It's a competition thing.

I'm off to the beach for a long weekend...

Hope that you ALL have a wonderful weekend and get to relax.

Love,

L

Laura, have a GREAT herx-free weekend!!!

Susie, I take Nystatin to prevent yeast problems. If I had a severe yeast problem, I'd probably ask for it, though I have gotten rid of candida myself by follow a strict diet and taking massive probiotics.

I hope Rachel's busy with that interesting guy and not busy being ill. ;)

mftnchn Explorer
mftnchn
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Hi, been keeping up reading, just quiet.

Quick update, but its late and gotta go to bed on this side of the "pond."

No, Jin, never found zinc. I'm skipping it for now.

My test last week for milk didn't go really well. Not strong dramatic symptoms, but felt foggy and fatigued enough that I couldn't do much. But the worse thing is that I haven't been well all week ever since that. Prone to abdominal symptoms, tired, have to push through to keep working. Ugh. Don't know if it is all milk related--how do we ever figure all this out, guys??

On Monday I am off on another trip, so may lose track of you all for awhile.

Carla, how did your bad herx go? Hope it is a lot better now. You seem perkier...

Miamia--hope you are doing better too.

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
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Carla, how did your bad herx go? Hope it is a lot better now. You seem perkier...

First, the increase in Amoxy caused its own herx for about a week, and just when I was pulling out of that one, the monthly herx started. <_< It was bad ... had to stay in bed with it. Yesterday was my first day out of bed ... I was even able to go out to lunch with Adam, stop by the grocery, and cook dinner, then I was wiped out. Today, I'm still moving slowly ... I guess it'll take a few days to pull out of it.

I've been wondering, what's your time difference from Eastern time?

Sorry the milk experiment didn't work. My food intolerances are going away as my leaky gut is healing!!!! The oregano oil and plant tannins are working wonders ... plus all kinds of probiotics. BUT, I don't have celiac disease. I think that true celiacs/gluten intolerants seem more prone to food sensitivities.

Have a good trip. :)

dlp252 Apprentice
dlp252
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My test last week for milk didn't go really well. Not strong dramatic symptoms, but felt foggy and fatigued enough that I couldn't do much. But the worse thing is that I haven't been well all week ever since that. Prone to abdominal symptoms, tired, have to push through to keep working. Ugh. Don't know if it is all milk related--how do we ever figure all this out, guys??

It's hard to be sure! The same thing has been happening to me...same symptoms after my goat milk/sheep milk yogurt experiment. I still haven't recovered. Definitely having abdominal symptoms too...and I've been very congested for about a week...haven't had that happen in nearly a year, so it really has to be the sheep/goat yogurts...possibly the overload of sugar from the two cookie binges so close together and so close to the yogurts. I think the best way to figure it out is to try something new when it's the only new thing you're trying if that makes sense. I was able to tell pretty well from January until a couple of months ago what was bothering me as long as I only tried 1 new thing at a time...including supplements, but anytime I tried more than one thing, even if it was a new supplement and a new food, the issue was muddied and harder to figure out.

I think that true celiacs/gluten intolerants seem more prone to food sensitivities.

Unfortunately. :(

covsooze Enthusiast
covsooze
Posted

Thanks for your help Donna (: Your signature mentions all your food intolerances. Have you cut out all the problem foods? My ELISA, test had me intolerant to pretty much everything inies except including all veggies except mushrooms :o Just wondering what you've done to deal with intolerances.

Susie x

dlp252 Apprentice
dlp252
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You're welcome Suzie. Well, I'm sure a lot of the intolerances were due to the Lyme, mercury, mold toxicity, etc. So finding out that those were definitely problems was the first step.

In November of last year, one of my doctors put me on an elimination diet to try to figure out what was bothering me. I never could figure it out because I reacted to just about everything it seems. That was not long after Rachel had started seeing the lady at BioSET for electrodermal testing. I decided to try it to see if she could help with the food and to tell me if I might have lyme. She didn't find the lyme because apparently I wasn't sensitized to it, but she did find a BUNCH of foods that I was reacting to. (I later found the lyme by another "alternative" testing called ART (muscle testing), and then confirmed that with a blood test.)

Oddy, most of the foods on the base elimination diet that were considered "safe" were on the list of foods I reacted to, so that is why I didn't get anywhere with the elimination diet. I cut out all the foods that she told me to and felt better right away. I'm still basically eating that core diet that she said was safe, and have tried to add a few things, some with success but most not, and I'm thinking that's because of the mold/lyme/mercury situation. Until I knock that down a bit my gut probably won't heal much. And if I keep insisting on eating cookies and chocolate will probably actually make things worse.

So, I have resolved to start TOMORROW on a strict candida diet and cut nuts out completely for at least a week, lol.

covsooze Enthusiast
covsooze
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I could do with looking into the alternative therapies but don't have the

dlp252 Apprentice
dlp252
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Okay, you're on...no nuts! Yeah, I'd like me a potato once in a while, but fortunately haven't eaten those regularly for the last 5 years or so, so almost used to it by now, lol.

Yep, the funds are hard...I've gone into debt with all this testing and stuff, and that's no fun.

AndreaB Contributor
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He said I shouldn't take zinc tablets in case I overdose but should eat zinc rich foods. My vitamin book says the best sources are oysters :wacko: and wheat germ. So I think I will be taking supplements....I think I need to see an alternative practioner..

Anyone heard from Rachel yet?

I'd take supplements too.

Haven't heard from Rachel. I'd call her but I don't know what time her appointment is. I'll plan on calling her Sunday (or maybe Saturday night) if she hasn't been on by then.

I'm off to the beach for a long weekend...

Hope that you ALL have a wonderful weekend and get to relax.

Have a fun weekend! :D

My test last week for milk didn't go really well. Not strong dramatic symptoms, but felt foggy and fatigued enough that I couldn't do much. But the worse thing is that I haven't been well all week ever since that. Prone to abdominal symptoms, tired, have to push through to keep working. Ugh. Don't know if it is all milk related--how do we ever figure all this out, guys??

It's hard to figure out without testing in my mind. I just had the ASYRA run for my food sensitivities. Now that I have a list it's easier to see what affects me and how. It seems to be mostly sleepy type stuff for me but I'm not eating alot of foods right now so we'll see later.

Yep, the funds are hard...I've gone into debt with all this testing and stuff, and that's no fun.

Us too. :(

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      Dangerously underweight, Perfect gluten free and insomnia

      By knitty kitty · Posted

      @SaiP, Insomnia is listed as one of the side effects of Loratadine.   Niacin B3 in the form Tryptophan, Pyridoxine B 6, Folate B 9, Cobalamine B12, Magnesium, and Thiamine B 1 are needed to produce the sleep hormone melatonin.  Insomnia can also be caused by low Vitamin D and low Vitamin A.   A strict gluten free diet can be low in essential  vitamins.   Gluten containing products are required to replace vitamins lost in processing and milling.  Gluten free processed foods are not required to have vitamins added.  White rice is not a good source of B vitamins.  Brown rice is little better.  Exposure to light (even grocery store lights) and heat (during transportation) can destroy B vitamins.   B vitamins are easily lost in urine and diarrhea because they are water soluble.  If you have had diarrhea longer than two weeks, you are probably low in B vitamins.  Fat based vitamins, like Vitamins D and A, can be low due to fat malabsorption in Celiac disease, too.   Damaged villa in Celiac Disease do not absorb B vitamins and fat based vitamins and minerals well.  Supplementing with essential nutrients while villi heal boosts the ability to absorb essential vitamins and minerals.  Vitamins are stored and utilized inside cells.  Blood levels are not accurate measurements of vitamin deficiencies.  You can have normal blood levels while having deficiencies inside cells.  The brain orders cells to release their stores so the brain and heart can keep functioning.  This results in normal blood levels, but vitamin deficits inside cells.   Your indulgence in a little bit of bread is providing some, but insufficient amounts, of vitamins needed to make sleep hormone melatonin while keeping your inflammation and histamine production high.   In addition to a B Complex, I took 1000 mg of tryptophan before bed to correct my insomnia caused by high histamine levels.  Correcting my Vitamin D level to between 75-100 nmol/ml helped as well.  Also Passion flower extract is helpful in falling asleep quickly.   Please stop eating gluten bread as this will keep your autoimmune response triggering and your antibody levels won't go down and your histamine levels will stay up as well.   Celiac is a marathon, not a sprint.  P.S. I wanted to reiterate that insomnia and weight loss are symptoms of Thiamine deficiency.  Benfotiamine is a form of thiamine that promotes intestinal healing.  Thiamine is water soluble and nontoxic even in high doses.  High doses are needed to correct thiamine deficiency. All mitochondria in cells utilize thiamine.  The World Health Organization says to take 500 - 1000 mg per day of thiamine and look for health improvement.  Diets that are high in carbohydrates like rice and gluten require more thiamine.  For every 1000 calories from carbohydrates, we need 500 mg more thiamine.  Thiamine is found in meat.  Few veggies contain thiamine. Can you rise from a squat without assistance?  This is the field test for thiamine deficiency used by WHO.  If you cannot rise easily from a squat you may be thiamine deficient.
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      Dangerously underweight, Perfect gluten free and insomnia

      By trents · Posted

      Earlier, you mentioned the possibility of adding in sweet potatoes. Have you tried that? Have you tried sourdough bread? Some people with celiac disease claim they can eat sourdough without a gluten reaction. The fermentation process alters the protein somewhat.
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