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This Is So Insane!


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So I've been gluten free for about a week and with the exception of one little slip, I've been feeling okay. So today for lunch I decide to go for some basic smoked ham (read the lable and there was nothing bad) and some cheese. I had two slices each of provolone and mozzerella. Within 15 minutes of finishing the cheese, I started to get stomach pains and a monumental amount of gas. My 14 year old is a master belcher and had I let one loose in front of him I would have left him in awe....that's how bad it was. I took two Gaviscon which helped a little bit but not a lot.

Is this a problem with lactose as well?? Thing is I don't like milk and most milk products, with the exception of ice cream and the very occasional vanilla yogurt. But I have been having a small amount of 1% milk (maybe 1/4 cup) with my cereal in the morning and I've been alright. I also have a history of GERD but am on medication for it.

What the blazes is going on with me?? Am I gluten and lactose intolerant?

I'm going to try eating a bagel tomorrow to see how I feel...I wonder if I shouldn't cut out all dairy as well and see what happens?

Like I said...this is soooo insane....all I want is to feel good. I'm too young to be this old! :(

Laura


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Alot of the time people are lactose intolerant until their intestines heal. The tips of your villi are what digests the lactose so when they are damaged the lactose is not digested properly.

Also, a week is not really enough time to get rid of all your symptoms. Took me about 8 months...some people take longer than that and some people don't take as long. So don't expect instant changes. Also, at first there are so many things that you can miss. It covers not only food but products like lipstick and shampoos and that sort of thing. I know at first I was glutening myself and didn't even know it. If I knew what I know now, it probably would not have taken 8 months.

Ashley Enthusiast

Hate to say it, but it's sure gonna take more than a few weeks for this pain to subside. It took me nearly a year before things were back on track.

I've been having the same things happen as they are to you. A lot of people who have Celiac and have problems with lactose, whey, casein, ect.

I know it would be hard cutting out gluten and milk products, but, giving a trial test time frame wouldn't hurt. I'm going through it right now, so, I know how you feel. I'd say at least give it a few weeks and then introduce dairy back into your diet and see how you feel. Hopefully things will get better :)

-Ash

ebrbetty Rising Star

sounds like lactose intolerance to me, I use Kraft shredded cheese sometimes, it lactose free

nettiebeads Apprentice
What the blazes is going on with me?? Am I gluten and lactose intolerant?

I'm going to try eating a bagel tomorrow to see how I feel...I wonder if I shouldn't cut out all dairy as well and see what happens?

Like I said...this is soooo insane....all I want is to feel good. I'm too young to be this old! :(

Laura

Why are you going to eat a bagel?

BRUMI1968 Collaborator

I just read some awesome stuff on dairy - at doctorj.com I think. He's a vet. Anyway, casein, soy, corn, and gluten are al glue - and all of them affect the small intestine. I'd stay away from dairy at the very least at first, and then consider goat dairy, which has way less casein, or continuing on dairy free. I've been dairy free for two years (except for a vacation in Hawaii on which my husbands father kept baking bread [before i was dx'd celiac] and I ate bread and butter for ten days)...and I think it's really helped, especially intestinally, but also in balancing out weight and the like.

Good luck.

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