Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

My Son Is Not Alone!


momothree

Recommended Posts

momothree Apprentice

It's been a while since I posted, but I just had to now. After my 12 year old son was diagnosed by biopsy in May, I had the blood test and so did my 10 year old daughter. I can hardly believe it myself, but she came back positive. I came back negative. It's crazy--my son had virtually no symptoms, and my daughter doesn't either. I know her chances are greatly increased since my son has it, but what are the chances of having 2 silent celiacs? My husband still has to get his test done (tomorrow), and our 21 month old was tested and it came back negative. We have her on the diet anyhow since she is the only one of my kids that actually has symptoms (ironic :huh: ). We'll get her tested again in a couple of years, or, perhaps, do a gluten challenge on her in a year or so. In a way, as terrible as it sounds, I wish they had some symptoms, because I think it'll be that much more difficult for them to adhere to the diet. Hopefully, since it's the two of them, they will be encouragement for each other. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Thanks for listening. :(


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



celiacgirls Apprentice

My 2 daughters and I are all gluten intolerant. One daughter, 8, had tummy issues which led to the testing (by Enterolab). Since hers was positive, I tested myself and my other daughter, 10. We were both also positive. My older daughter and I both feel alot better emotionally even though I didn't think we had any symptoms. I don't have any trouble getting either of them to stay on the diet because they can both tell a difference. My oldest tried to eat a cupcake shortly after she started the diet and got a stomach ache and could tell a difference with energy level, mood, and brain fog.

I think it would be difficult for anyone to stay on this diet if they didn't see some improvement in some way. I would expect your children to do thier own gluten challenge by either cheating or making a mistake and maybe they will then notice a difference.

Ursa Major Collaborator

I agree. You kids will likely get a noticable reaction once they've been on the diet for a while. Many here actually got diarrhea and all the awful gastro problems when glutened, even if before the diet they hardly had any noticable symptoms.

Testing on toddlers is notoriously unreliable, and your little one (especially she has symptoms) was very likely a false positive. If you find she responds to the diet in a positive way and her symptoms disappear, you'll have your answer. No challenge needed, as it could make her quite ill.

Are you going gluten-free with the rest of them? You might be surprised at the difference it could make.

2Boys4Me Enthusiast

My younger son is the only one in our family with celiac. He didn't have any symptoms either, except anemia and he was at the lowest percentile for height and weight, but was still the same height as many of his classmates in the couple of months before diagnosis.

He has no problem sticking to the diet - I hope that continues when he's a teenager. I also have no idea if he's accidentally ingesting gluten via cross contamination because of the lack of symptoms, so I just assume that we are doing a good job.

Good luck on your gluten-free adventure.

floridanative Community Regular

I agree that is is easier to have at least two kids with Celiac if any of them have it. I don't have kids but I see my sisters kid fight and aggravate each other. I don't see how one would be gluten free without the other making them miserable about it.

2Boys4Me Enthusiast
I agree that is is easier to have at least two kids with Celiac if any of them have it. I don't have kids but I see my sisters kid fight and aggravate each other. I don't see how one would be gluten free without the other making them miserable about it.

Sounds like you've overheard my older son asking for "extra gluten sprinkled on" his supper :ph34r: . He has no problem eating gluten free - all our suppers are gluten-free except for pasta, pizza and hamburgers. Ty gets his own noodles, pizza and his own bun. Big brother just gets huffy when we can't stop at any old place to grab something to eat because there's nothing there for Ty. Most of the time he's good about it, but if he's in a contrary mood, watch out! <_< (He's a good kid, and he knows why we can't stop just anywhere, but he's not shy about complaining. Ty never does - he's a champ! :D )

momothree Apprentice

Thanks for all your input. We are just starting the gluten-free diet with our daughter today; she just returned from camp. I'm anticipating some difficult times ahead, but, yes, at least they'll both be experiencing the same things. Who knows, maybe it'll even make them closer--like a special bond (to try to put a positive spin on things ;) . Ursula--in regard to your comment about giving my toddler a gluten challenge in a year or so, could it really make her ill? What can you tell me about that? I would hate to make her sick, but I would really like to know before I have to send her off to her first little birthday party with her own "special" cupcake. Her symptoms are somewhat vague (especially compared to some I have hear of or read about), and it can sometimes feel like we are thinking we see improvement when there isn't really that much of any. I keep thinking--what are the odds that all three have celiac? It almost seems unlikely. I've hear that the blood test is accurate after 3, and I've also heard that it isn't accurate until after 5. Can anyone tell me when the best time to have her re-tested? I don't follow the gluten-free diet myself, but all of the dinners, and any other meals that we all eat together as a family are all gluten free. It's easier to prepare that way, and it makes it easier for my kids too. Who knows, maybe somewhere down the road we might all eat gluten-free (especially if my husbands tests come back positive), but it's hard to say just yet.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Ursa Major Collaborator

If your little one is gluten intolerant, and she is off gluten for a while, yes, it could make her very ill. Some people who never had any obvious symptoms before are reporting getting terrible reactions after being off gluten for a while.

Plus, if you want to do a gluten challenge to retest her, you'd need to have her eat gluten for at least six months, possibly up to a year to make the test valid.

If you really want to know, and can afford it, the best way to be sure is testing by Enterolab (Open Original Shared Link). Those tests are reliable no matter what age somebody is, are non-invasive (stool testing), and you don't have to be on gluten for them (even though after a few months they become unreliable, too, of course).

celiacgirls Apprentice

I agree with Ursula. If you can, test your daughter with Enterolab. My 8 year old daughter showed mild symptoms from the time she started eating wheat. We have a family history of celiac, so she was tested multiple times over the years with the blood tests. They were all negative.

Including my brother and sisters, and their children, 9 people in my family have been tested by Enterolab and all are positive. They all have some slight symptoms of celiac. My mother has not been tested but doesn't eat gluten because she feels better. Her mother had celiac disease. So, needless to say, I think it is possible your daughter has it, too, even though her blood test was negative.

momothree Apprentice

Thanks for the info. I had no idea that she would have to be back on gluten for such a long time in order for the test to make sense. I imagined it would only be a couple of weeks or a month. I checked out that link to enterolab, and it looks very interesting. The prices aren't even as bad as I thought they'd be (even with the Canadian exchange). Definitely worth looking into.

Karen-it's amazing that so many in your family have celiac. Wow! I know there is a strong genetic component to it, but that is quite a few. I guess my babe's chance of having it are greater than I thought. We are trying to convince others in our family to be tested too. Hopefully they will. Thanx :)

Raegan

AndreaB Contributor

Raegen,

I underwent allergy testing because of my infant son's eczema. After finding out what I was allergic to included gluten/gliadin/soy and dairy I made some diet changes. I had not been on dairy except for maybe 3-6 times a year at potlucks where nothing else was available and I lived off soy and gluten. I dropped soy completely and went mostly gluten free. The allergy test said I wasn't allergic to oats and barley. My son's eczema got a lot better but would not go away. I then took the plunge and had all of us tested with enterolab except the baby. No one had any symptoms...I was just going off my allergy test and had been looking at this site and seen references to enterolab. We opted for all the tests that they offer. I am gluten intolerant as well as my oldest son and my daughter. My husband and I are soy intolerant and my oldest son has mild malabsorption. That really surprised us since he had no symptoms. Both of the older kids has something that looks like real mild eczema that still has yet to go away, so eventually I need to find the money for allergy testing for them. All of us have 2 genes that either predispose to celiac or gluten intolerance. All of us are on the totally gluten free diet and my infant son's eczema has totally gone away. We are also all on the soy free diet. My children scored 9 on that with 10 being the intolerance level. I am very glad we got the tests. My mother has a hard enough time and thinks we are being too picky with cross contamination when we visit her as it is. At least with the tests I can show they need to have it that way. She's never asked to see the actual results though. My daughter got glutened twice in the last month and has had some tummy troubles and "d" with those.

GFBetsy Rookie

Also, if 2 siblings in a family have celiac, other siblings have a 40% chance of having the disease. In my mother's family, 4 of the 10 children have come up positive for celiac. So it's not that unlikely that your 3rd has the disease, considering that your first 2 do have it.

As far as gluten challenges go, there was a representative from iNOVA (they're the people who developed the test for tissue-trans-glutaminase) at the national GIG conference in Salt Lake last month. He told me that they recently had a new test for celiac pass the FDA (in just six weeks! that's got to be some kind of record). None of the labs have picked it up yet, but it should be readily available by the time you would consider a gluten challenge for your baby. This test is more accurate and specific than the other blood tests currently available, and he told me that it is even accurate on infants! Additionally, a gluten challenge would only be necessary for 3 - 4 weeks instead of 3 months. This could still seem like forever for those who experience a lot of negative symptoms, but it's certainly a lot shorter than current requirements. Good news for those of us with small children!

Just some information . . . hope it's helpful!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,657
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Mark Bevan
    Newest Member
    Mark Bevan
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Scott Adams
      Based on those results alone, it’s not possible to say you have celiac disease. The test that is usually most specific for celiac, tTG-IgA, is negative in your results, and the endomysial antibody (EMA) is also negative, which generally argues against active celiac disease. However, your deamidated gliadin IgA is elevated, and your total IgA level is also high, which can sometimes affect how the other antibody tests behave. Another important factor is that you were reducing gluten before the test, which can lower antibody levels and make the results less reliable. Because of that, many doctors recommend a gluten challenge (eating gluten regularly for several weeks) before repeating blood tests or considering an endoscopy if symptoms and labs raise concern. It would be best to review these results with a gastroenterologist, who can interpret them in context and decide whether further testing is needed.
    • trents
      Since you compromised the validity of the antibody testing by experimenting with gluten withdrawal ahead of the testing, you are faced with two options: 1. Reintroduce significant amounts of gluten into your diet for a period of weeks, i.e., undertake a "gluten challenge". The most recent guidelines are the daily consumption of at least 10g of gluten (about the amount found in 4-6 slices of wheat-based bread) for at least two weeks leading up to the day of testing. Note: I would certainly give it more than two weeks to be sure. 2. Be willing to live with the ambiguity of not knowing whether gluten causes you problems because you have celiac disease or NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity). There is no test for NCGS. Celiac disease must first be ruled out and we have tests for it. Celiac disease has an autoimmune base. NCGS does not. GI symptoms overlap. In the early stages of celiac disease, other body systems may not be showing stress or damage so, symptomatically, it would be difficult to distinguish between celiac disease and NCGS. Both conditions require elimination of gluten from the diet for symptom relief. Some experts feel that NCGS can be a precursor to celiac disease.
    • suek54
      Hi Kayla Huge sympathies. I was diagnosed in December, after 8 months of the most awful rash, literally top to toe. Mine is a work in progress. Im on just 50mg dapsone at the moment but probably need an increased dose to properly put the lid on it. As you have been now glutened, I wondered whether it might be worth asking for a skin biopsy to finally get a proper diagnosis? Sue  
    • MicG
      I had been eating reduced gluten until about 3 days before the test. I did realize that wasn’t ideal, but it was experimental to see if gluten was actually bothering me. One slip up with soy sauce and it was quite clear to me that it was, lol. 
    • trents
      Possibly. Your total IGA (Immunoglobulin A, Qn, Serum) is actually high so you are not IGA deficient. In the absence of IGA deficiency, the most reliable celiac antibody test would be the t-Transglutaminase (tTG) IgA for which your score is within normal range. There are other things besides celiac disease that might cause an elevated DGP-IGA (Deamidated Gliadin Abs, lgA) for which you do have a positive score. It might also be of concern that your total IGA is elevated as that can indicate some other health problems, some of which are serious.  Had you been practicing a gluten free or a reduced gluten free diet prior to the blood draw? Talk to your physician about these things. I would also seek an endoscopy/biopsy of the small bowel to check for damage to the villous lining, which is the gold standard diagnostic test for celiac disease.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.