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Why is there so much (negative) hype about certain chinese foods having MSG in them (or not having it in them) if it seems no big deal for things like Cheetos to have it in them!?!??! i know MSG is bad...right?!?!? so why is it still in main stream things like cheetos??


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I've got news for you....MSG is in much more than just Cheetos....its in virtually everything. Its not always labeled as such because if its processed into other ingredients they can avoid labeling it. You are therefore consuming large amounts of a known neurotoxin and are none the wiser...due to what they call "clean" labeling.

It is a big deal in my opinion. The only purpose MSG serves in food is that it "enhances" the flavor. Its cheap and it allows manufacturers to use low quality ingredients...the msg adds the flavor and again...we are none the wiser. MSG "tricks" your brain into thinking the food is good and it interferes with the part of you're brain that tells you when you are full. In the end you eat more than you normally would and you believe what you are eating is so tasty that you want more. This country uses more MSG in its food than any other country....is it no wonder we have more obese people here than in any other part of the world??

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I agree with Rachel . Bad, bad, bad MSG.

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well...my point was...why do chinese places (only example i know of off hand) go so far as to say they dont have msg...but places like frito lay cant just take it out and make the same claim

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well...my point was...why do chinese places (only example i know of off hand) go so far as to say they dont have msg...but places like frito lay cant just take it out and make the same claim

Chinese restuarants have a reputation for having their foods laden with MSG. If you have bad reactions to MSG you stay away from them. When they first discovered reactions people were having with MSG they called it the chinese food syndrome. So I imagine they wanted to get away from that rep. by advertising they don't use MSG but you still have to worry about them using it under a different name.

I have a hunch Doritos wouldn't taste like Doritos without MSG. They're not willing to change for people who are sensitive to it, too many peeps want it like it is. They do make a healtier version of their products but I don't want to risk it. I've been fooled too many times. I don't tolerate anything that has yeast extracts, Disodiums, or Hydrolzyed ingredients. My new discovery is with sodium caseinate which is in alot of creamers, ice cream etc.

So its a whole new ball game where you have to be your own detective. Food companies just want you to love their food and if it tastes to good to be true it probably has msg in it.

Gail

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well...my point was...why do chinese places (only example i know of off hand) go so far as to say they dont have msg...but places like frito lay cant just take it out and make the same claim

If a company like Frito Lay wants to add MSG to their food then they must label it in the ingredients. This means that they are adding MSG itself (as an ingredient) into the food. Other companies may not add MSG directly into their food but it can still be present in another ingredient such as Hydrolyzed Soy Protein. In this case they only need to list the hydrolyzed soy protein in the ingredients. Unless you are aware of the fact that hydrolyzed soy protein contains MSG than you would generally have no clue that MSG is in the product. Its very tricky. <_<

A Chinese restaraunt can claim to be free of MSG but this just means that they are not sprinkling it onto your food. It will still be present in other ingredients they are using. There is essentially no such thing as an MSG free restaraunt.

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