Any "lost"-aholics Out There?

[cmom]

I also read that there is a definite ending planned by the writers. I am curious as to why Ben is off the island after trying to protect it and what hold he has over Sayid. He told Sayid he had to do what he said if he wanted to protect his friends from "them". Who is "them"? The people from the freighter? I am afraid this series is going to have a terrible, unhappy ending and I'm not looking forward to it, but curiosity will get the best of me and I will be a watcher until the end!

[Green12]

I also read that there is a definite ending planned by the writers. I am curious as to why Ben is off the island after trying to protect it and what hold he has over Sayid. He told Sayid he had to do what he said if he wanted to protect his friends from "them". Who is "them"? The people from the freighter? I am afraid this series is going to have a terrible, unhappy ending and I'm not looking forward to it, but curiosity will get the best of me and I will be a watcher until the end!

Regarding Ben, I am thinking that maybe there will be more and more division amongst everyone as they learn more about the island and as secrets are revealed, and who they put their trust and faith in. Maybe a third camp of who to follow, Jack and Locke being 2 of the 3, Ben being the third??

"Who is them?" is yet another one of Lost's mysteries.

I just realized we haven't seen or heard of the "Others", the original "them" . Are we to believe they were all killed off?

[jerseyangel]

Regarding Ben, I am thinking that maybe there will be more and more division amongst everyone as they learn more about the island and as secrets are revealed, and who they put their trust and faith in. Maybe a third camp of who to follow, Jack and Locke being 2 of the 3, Ben being the third??

"Who is them?" is yet another one of Lost's mysteries.

I just realized we haven't seen or heard of the "Others", the original "them" . Are we to believe they were all killed off?

Wasn't Ben in a flash-forward with Sayid? I remember seeing him in a suit in a lab (?)

You're right--they haven't shown the 'others' all season. Yeah--what happened to them? I know a few of them did get killed along the way and the French woman is with the survivors. Oye....so confusing.

[Green12]

It's Thursday, Lost is on tonight

Wasn't Ben in a flash-forward with Sayid? I remember seeing him in a suit in a lab (?)

Yep Patti, it turned out in last week's ep that Sayid is actually working for Ben

[jerseyangel]

It's Thursday, Lost is on tonight

It would be nice to get more answers than questions.....but that's not very likely

[Green12]

It would be nice to get more answers than questions.....but that's not very likely

No, not likely

[Green12]

Mass confusion about tonight's ep

I'm going to sleep on it and post my thoughts tomorrow

[Judyin Philly]

HI Julie

I can't wait to see you post.

You and Patti are the only reason I'm hanging in there tho last nite i did wander a bit during 9-10

When i re watch and read the last weeks episode, I learn so much and then the new show comes on and.................... I'm lost again.

let the sharing begin...................PLEASE.

JUDY

[missy'smom]

Desmond's "girlfriend" said she saw Charlie?

Still trying to wrap my mind around what her connection is to the boat.

Her father was purchasing a ship's log. Not a coincidence I think. There's something mysterious about her father. Wouldn't be surprised if he's a major power in this thing.

[jerseyangel]

As soon as the auctioneer mentioned a ship's log, I knew that I'd recigonize who the buyer was--interesting that it was Widmore.

Penny saw Charlie just before he died--through the screen. She told him that the people on the boat were not there to rescue them (or something like that). Right? I could be off on some of that

So Penny was Desmond's constant--and Desmond was the professor's.

Did anyone--at first--think the guy in the bed looked like John Locke?

Well, now we know there's a time thing going on--Julie, I can't wait to hear your thoughts

[missy'smom]

As soon as the auctioneer mentioned a ship's log, I knew that I'd recigonize who the buyer was--interesting that it was Widmore.

Penny saw Charlie just before he died--through the screen. She told him that the people on the boat were not there to rescue them (or something like that). Right? I could be off on some of that I had forgotten about that! I'm going to have to watch it again next week.

So Penny was Desmond's constant--and Desmond was the professor's. That means that prof has or will time travel but so far we haven't seen any evidence of it. Have we? But it seems(as prof said) that people need a large amount of electomagnetic or radioactive exposure(like maybe only the island has)so maybe prof hasn't done it yet.? Desmond gave him the info he needed to do it(time travel) in the past and that old journal entry mentioned that Desmond was his constant, that means that he knew in the past that Desmond would be in his future. Don't you think? So many things to think about!

Did anyone--at first--think the guy in the bed looked like John Locke? Yes!

Well, now we know there's a time thing going on--Julie, I can't wait to hear your thoughts

[jerseyangel]

Missy's Mom--

Wow--thanks for that! I get the feeling that last night's episode will prove to be pivotal as we learn more.

I coulda sworn that was Locke in that bed--my husband wasn't sure, so we played it back on the commercial and he thought so too. It wasn't until he got up that we could tell it was a different guy.

The episode where Charlie saw Penny was last season's finale--he was able to write it on his hand and show it to Desmond right before he drowned.

[Green12]

HI Julie

I can't wait to see you post.

You and Patti are the only reason I'm hanging in there tho last nite i did wander a bit during 9-10

When i re watch and read the last weeks episode, I learn so much and then the new show comes on and.................... I'm lost again.

let the sharing begin...................PLEASE.

JUDY

Judy, bless your heart! I was thinking about you as I started watching last night, it got so confusing and I was afraid you would have a difficult time making heads or tails of everything.

Here we had established that this season they were flashing forward and then last night they flashed back and threw time travel into the mix!! I figured it would be enough for you to want to throw in the towel

Desmond's "girlfriend" said she saw Charlie?

Still trying to wrap my mind around what her connection is to the boat.

Her father was purchasing a ship's log. Not a coincidence I think. There's something mysterious about her father. Wouldn't be surprised if he's a major power in this thing.

Missy's Mom

Patti is correct, it was in last season's finale, when Charlie was down at that under water station. He was in that hatch and a signal came through on the monitor, it was Penny. The reception was fuzzy but they were able to talk long enough for Penny to learn that Desmond was there and ok and Charlie learned that Penny had nothing to do with Naomi and her "rescue" crew.

Charlie quickly wrote "Not Penny" on his hand as the hatch filled up with water and pressed his hand up against the glass window in the hatch door to show it to Desmond. Desmond later infomed the rest of the survivors that Naomi and the people on the frieghter may not be who they say they are. This is what began the division between the survivors, Locke's camp (not trusting Naomi and her crew and their motives) and Jack's camp (putting their faith in the "rescuers").

Which boat?!?!? You know, there are so many boats to keep track of, the Black Rock, the freighter, Desmond's boat, the boat Michael left with.......

Penny's father does seem suspicious, hopefully more will unfold there.

As soon as the auctioneer mentioned a ship's log, I knew that I'd recigonize who the buyer was--interesting that it was Widmore.

So Penny was Desmond's constant--and Desmond was the professor's.

Patti, I need to go back and refresh my memory about Penny, Desmond, and Penny's father's history.

More on the significance of the constant below.

Here are my thoughts,

I thought this episode "The Constant" was not only brilliant but beautiful, so well written it really could have stood on its own.

When Desmond got through to Penny I was moved to tears, and from reading other message sites and blogs, it seems to have had that effect on the majority of the viewers. I really like Desmond's character, always have from the beginning, but after last night I think he is now my favorite. And I really like the physicist Daniel Farady, I read on a blog someone referred to him as the George McFly and Doc Brown (from the Back to the Future trilogy) of Lost, "Desmond is his density, I mean his destiny"

Finally we got some answers last night, at least about the scientificness aspect of the island (hopefully the spiritual and mystical elements, etc will soon follow) and I am glad some light was shed on this. It's been obvious that something just isn't right, whether it was some kind of alternate or parallel universe, a vortex, Bermuda triangle phenomenon, but basically a lot of scientificness was running amuck

Now I am no Lost expert but what I think happened was when they were traveling to the freighter ship in the helicopter and Desmond lost his memory they crossed some kind of magnetc field or pocket of radiation and the exposure caused Desmond to time travel back to 1996. This was a time where he could not only contact Penny and tell her about the future so that the 2004 Desmond could reach her, but also he was able to hook up with the 1996 Faraday.

So this is how I am thinking they are able to get off the island because they can take info from the present back to the past in order to help them in the future, hope that makes sense. If any of you saw the movie Frequency (with Dennis Quaid and Jim something or other) as the father son team of the present and past worked together the outcome of the furture was changed.

The time travel thing also explains how some of the "Others", the original others, or natives of the island, didn't age from falshbacks to present day.

I think you are right Patti about the meaning of "The Constant", Penny was Desmond's constant and Desmond was Faraday's constant, but taking it one step further is having faith in someone or something, having a constant, when one is "lost".

[jerseyangel]

Julie,

I truly wish I could watch it with you! You really have a handle on what is happening--and more importantly, why. I spend each episode watching and having faith (!) that it will all make sense to me at some point.

It's a darn good story in the meantime, with characters that I care about. I so agree with everything you said about Desmond--I've always liked him, ever since he appeared to Jack while running. He's one of the good ones--and I also teared up a little when he got through to Penny last night.

[Green12]

Julie,

I truly wish I could watch it with you! You really have a handle on what is happening--and more importantly, why. I spend each episode watching and having faith (!) that it will all make sense to me at some point.

It's a darn good story in the meantime, with characters that I care about. I so agree with everything you said about Desmond--I've always liked him, ever since he appeared to Jack while running. He's one of the good ones--and I also teared up a little when he got through to Penny last night.

It would be so much fun to watch together Patti! There's strength in numbers, each of us pick up on all the little things and then put it together for it all to make sense.

My theories could be totally off you know, but one thing is for sure... last night's ep made me fall in love with Lost all over again. This is getting back to the Lost that blew me away the first season from that very first episode. It's so smart, and complex, and ground breaking....I'm feeling a little feclempt about it all

Another thing I thought about the time travel, it might explain how The Others and Ben and his followers knew every detail about the pasts of all the passengers on the plane?

[missy'smom]

Thanks for refreshing my memory Julie. If you don't mind me asking, how is it that Penny came to contact the station?

[jerseyangel]

Thanks for refreshing my memory Julie. If you don't mind me asking, how is it that Penny came to contact the station?

Yeah Julie--do you remember why/how she was on that screen? I remember Charlie trying the knobs and bringing in the image, trying to tell Desmond she was there and all but what was she doing on the screen in the first place? Or is that yet another mystery?

[Green12]

Omgosh I found the most awesome website! It's like Wikipedia only its Lostpedia and all about Lost, maybe you knew about it already but here is the link:

Open Original Shared Link

You can look up any character, or read summaries of all the episodes, and so much more.

Thanks for refreshing my memory Julie. If you don't mind me asking, how is it that Penny came to contact the station?

Yeah Julie--do you remember why/how she was on that screen? I remember Charlie trying the knobs and bringing in the image, trying to tell Desmond she was there and all but what was she doing on the screen in the first place? Or is that yet another mystery?

If you remember in a past episode Penny gets a call in the middle of the night and the person on the other end says, "we found it" or something like that. I looked it up at Lostpedia and this was in season 2. So it was established a while ago that Penny had been actively searching for Desmond after he disappeared.

Then we heard in this week's ep that Minkowski (the guy who was down in the sick bay and eventually died) and the other communication officers were instructed to never answer Penny's incoming calls.

Going back to Charlie in the underwater station, which I now remember is called The Looking Glass.....the whole reason he went down there in the first place is because the survivors realized Ben and his people were jamming the signals, which blocked communication going in to and going out from the island and this is why they couldn't get Naomi's phone to work in order to contact her people on the freighter ship. Desmond had a vision that it was Charlie who flips the switch that unblocks the communication jam and then dies.

Long story short, Charlie enter the code, a signal comes through and it's Penny.

So I guess we assume that she has been putting a lot of calls out all this time.

[pixiegirl]

Ugh.. I had an appointment and couldn't watch Lost. Do you all know if they show it again on another night or channel? Can I get it on the internet?

Susan

[missy'smom]

So far this season, they've been reairing the previous week's episode in the time slot right before the new episode for the week, so back to back.

[Green12]

Susan, you can also watch it online at abc.com

Here is the link for Lost:

Open Original Shared Link

[Judyin Philly]

Hi guys,

Well i sure know why this show has the title it does

Thanks for thinking of me last week Julie I finally fired my brain and turned it all at one point and Patti just told me what i missed.

Because of You Julie........i was able to get a 'cheat sheet' of characters from your link. Of course, alot aren't on it........

Time travel does seem to explain allot.

If i watch the hr before with the sub titles.....it helps so many i'll just keep watching those.

thanks for trying to help me folks.

wish i would have started at the beginning.

Judy

[Green12]

Hi guys,

Well i sure know why this show has the title it does

Thanks for thinking of me last week Julie I finally fired my brain and turned it all at one point and Patti just told me what i missed.

Because of You Julie........i was able to get a 'cheat sheet' of characters from your link. Of course, alot aren't on it........

Time travel does seem to explain allot.

If i watch the hr before with the sub titles.....it helps so many i'll just keep watching those.

thanks for trying to help me folks.

wish i would have started at the beginning.

Judy

Glad I could help Judy

I agree that the pop-up subtitles they show when they re-air the previous week's episode are really helpful and give lost of backstory tidbits of info.

Also at the link I posted, Lostpedia, if you scroll down to the very bottom of the home page there is an index with all the major categories (i.e. main characters, supporting characters, flashbacks, location, etc), everything you ever wanted to know and more

I'll post the link again:

Open Original Shared Link

[Judyin Philly]

tHANKS JULIE

I'LL CHECK IT OUT

SO APPRECIATE IT.

LOVE WHEN YOU GUYS POST CASUE IT HELPS ME WITH THE BACK GROUND

JUDY

[Green12]

Just a friendly reminder, Lost is on tonight