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nikki-uk Enthusiast

Ok, don't like Woody Allen <_< .......he does me 'ead in!!!!!

Well, after Emily went shopping for bridesmaid dresses, I decided I wanted to go to . . . haven't found anything better than what Emily has proposed but I did find Open Original Shared Link.

Excellent!!!!

Loving ALL the hideous beautiful bridesmaid dresses ;)

I would like to have a BIG Frilly bridesmaids dress!! with lots of poofs!!!!

Not really sure exactly how many gay blokes Susie will be inviting .....but YES, LOTS OF POOFS!!!!!!!!! :lol:


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elye Community Regular

Morning, All!!!

I lay abed last night, thinking about my hasty blanket statement on Woody. More interesting now as I've read everyone's take on him.

I must add a disclaimer....movies such as Manhattan, Purple Rose of Cairo, Radio Days and Zelig are wonderfully crafted, hilarious, even gripping, films. What I cannot appreciate with Allen is his odd, lengthy, neurotic monologues that sometimes happen. Not always, and when they aren't there, or better yet when Allen is not even IN the work, those are the films that I love. If any of you want to see a film that could well be our symbolic work for Sillyville, catch Zelig. Little known, but comic genius.

We ARE in fact going to Vegas at end of March for a wedding......ha ha ha ah!!!!!!!!!!!!! now settle down, all ye mad sillies, 'tis for some good friends of his....alas, young Jenn is coming with us!! and it will be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo much fun........this is a shocker - I have never been to Vegas........... can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, wonderful, Kissey2!! Should be mad fun! :)

we'd like a really good king-sized mattress, pleez, as Susie doesn't share space easily :unsure: and a cozy, old, adobe house. Can you all chip in? :lol: throw in some Berbers while you're at it.........

We have a king-size bed (Emporer Ptaum, I should hope you do, as well!), and the one problem you get into is this: sheets and bedspreads are, I'm not kidding, usually twice what queen stuff is ...do not know why, 'tis heinous. You need to shop endlessly for sales....it is a pain. However, we can both sprawl out quite nicely, and barely touch...and, on the odd occasion, this is desired. :lol:

yer windin' me up...................

No winding here! Random people are indeed featured in my frame gifts. Must get my sister or good buddy Heather on here some time to verify this for y'all. :lol:

And another major snow storm is forecast for Friday.

Whhhaaattt?? Did NOT hear of this....Gaaaahhhhh.....I was out THRICE shovelling what amounted to 20 cm of heavy snow yesterday. I will do no more. The team of shovellers will be back home and it's all them.

They are coming home today from the Walter Gretzky Hockey Tournament in Brantford. Sophie played very well...one game she had a shutout, and stopped 29 shots! This is a large number from teams this age. Good one, ma girl! :)

:lol::lol: flolf :lol: Em!!! You are too much!!!!!!

Tom!! WTH is flolf?! Freakin' Laughing Out Loud, Finally....?

(I'm out seeing a band again now tho so that says it all for my confidence in yet another Robert Duvall movie. Of all the dingoisms I've seen, this Robert Duvall crushiness is most confusing of all, and that's sayin' somethin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Yes, with me as well. Susie, really.....Robert Duvall? :huh:

Ok it's hrs later now and John & I have been doing an absinthe comparison test & . . ..this is cracking me up .. .he's suddenly taking GREAT offense to my av, tho it's now the 3rd time it's been mentioned.

:lol: Hell, if he's offended by your unsolicited use of his image in a somewhat unflattering pose, you'd best not let him see Janet's version.... :lol::o

Tom, excellent news about Doreen. Get out and start shootin' hoops with her. :)

I must say, Ptaum, when I read that you're out seeing different bands every week, I feel a sudden pang of jealousy. Ah, to be able to just head out, sit in a lovely, intimate (or huge, and cacophanous) venue and let some terrific vocals wash over...

Maybe something to revisit in later life.... :)

blueeyedmanda Community Regular
yes, absolutely, in a bright, bilious green, or maybe a horrible peach coloUr

Like Sea Foam???? I can wear Sea Foam....now who wants to clash with me!!!

Must be careful. We've already had one unexpected incident involving liquids this past week. The dishwasher developed a leak which Jacquie found on the kitchen floor Tuesday morning. It has been fixed, but now freezing rain is expected tomorrow evening and lasting into Monday's morning commute. And another major snow storm is forecast for Friday. I'm doing a rare Sunday shift at the shop tomorrow, so I won't be lurking here and tempting the fates. :lol:

Better to be safe....and dishwasher leaks are never fun! I have heard the rumors of the snow storm too....

Whhhaaattt?? Did NOT hear of this....Gaaaahhhhh.....I was out THRICE shovelling what amounted to 20 cm of heavy snow yesterday. I will do no more. The team of shovellers will be back home and it's all them.

They are coming home today from the Walter Gretzky Hockey Tournament in Brantford. Sophie played very well...one game she had a shutout, and stopped 29 shots! This is a large number from teams this age. Good one, ma girl! :)

Em, I have heard the rumors of the snow storm from my mom and downstairs neighbor (who is traveling to Michigan tomorrow and will be back Thursday) but I cannot find it on a forecast yet....

So if anyone has any specifics let me know!! John will be delighted!

See you sillies later, John is taking me to breakfast....we had one of those bad days yesterday and were both not so nice to each other...even I a trip to Wegmans didnt cheer me up....SO we came home talked alot and are both feeling more lovey-dovey. More later

Byes!

Darn210 Enthusiast
Tom!! WTH is flolf?! Freakin' Laughing Out Loud, Finally....?

Forever Laughing Out Loud Flamboyantly??

Yes, with me as well. Susie, really.....Robert Duvall? :huh:

I like Robert Duvall . . . perhaps not as much as Susie . . . not in "that way" . . . but I do usually enjoy him as an actor.

:lol: Hell, if he's offended by your unsolicited use of his image in a somewhat unflattering pose, you'd best not let h see Janet's version.... :lol::o

You can't even see his face . . . tell him to get over it or Emily will print it out the av and stick it in a frame at WalMart.

Like Sea Foam???? I can wear Sea Foam....now who wants to clash with me!!!

:lol::lol:

I think we have enough wenches ladies that we could do that hideous coloUrs of the rainbow thing . . . Open Original Shared Link I think we need the hats, too.

DingoGirl Enthusiast

Morning sillieeeeeeeeeeez!!!!! what am I doing up? :huh: still quite tired.....slept fitfully...and OMG - at least three times now - this is most curious - I dream that I am living in the same horrific, gluten-brained personality/mind-prison that I carried with me for nearly my entire life. So strange - everything is the same - my reactions, my deep, horrible sadness, internal torture, confusion, and people's reactions TO me..........and I"m always sobbing and mired in TERRIBLE depression........ :blink:

....and then I wake up. :)

Kissey is skiing wif his boy today, I've got the day to meself, what will I do? :lol: (going to Mommy's)

Not really sure exactly how many gay blokes Susie will be inviting .....but YES, LOTS OF POOFS!!!!!!!!!

:lol: Yes, poofs galore, and WITH Janet's hats......dear gawd. Big, frilly, lacy hats, with ghastly fake flowers all over.....and lacy gloves to yer elbows......

'TIS MOTHER"S DAY IN ENGLAND, All!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Happy Mother's Day Nicola!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

We have a king-size bed (Emporer Ptaum, I should hope you do, as well!), and the one problem you get into is this: sheets and bedspreads are, I'm not kidding, usually twice what queen stuff is ...do not know why, 'tis heinous. You need to shop endlessly for sales....it is a pain. However, we can both sprawl out quite nicely, and barely touch...and, on the odd occasion, this is desired.

Yes. my preferred Sleep Shape is the letter L, body jack-knifed and legs kicked fully over to other side of the bed. Quite odd. Also the number 4 shape. Must have room for this, not sure how this will work, the Big Letter L w/ another human there. :huh: and how in HELL do people sleep on their backs? could lie awake for days if forced to fall asleep in this position......Susie is jealous of people who can do this. I AM the freaking Princess and the Pea.........harrumphhhfff! :angry: Soooooooooooooo many conditions must be met for sleep to occur...

King-sized sheets - gads. This is why I'm most thankful for Target, TJMaxx, and Marshall's - great deals. Just got the BEST and yummiest Hotel sheet set at TJ's on sale.....lush-us!

See you sillies later, John is taking me to breakfast....we had one of those bad days yesterday and were both not so nice to each other...even I a trip to Wegmans didnt cheer me up....SO we came home talked alot and are both feeling more lovey-dovey. More later

Byes!

oh so glad you worked through this bad day, Amanda. Breakfast will be good. :)

You can't even see his face . . . tell him to get over it or Emily will print it out the av and stick it in a frame at WalMart.

:lol: Such a BRILLIANT idea......I think Janet should email the photo to ALL of us, slightly enlarged, and then we can have quite the Absinthian Wormwood Poseur John campaign, in Walmarts everywhere........ :lol:

My Robert Duvall crush........can't really explain it although it was mainly focused on the YOUNG Duvall......not so much the old guy, tho I still find him somehow incredibly appealing......it's wackl, I know. :lol:

freezing cold, sillies!!!!!!!!!! (oops - it's relative so - not that cold here really......sorry :ph34r: )

Darn210 Enthusiast
Kissey is skiing wif his boy today, I've got the day to meself, what will I do? :lol: (going to Mommy's)

Did we know this??? Kissey has a boy??? I think I remember most things, but I don't remember this. OK then . . . how old?

'TIS MOTHER"S DAY IN ENGLAND, All!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Happy Mother's Day Nicola!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Yes, Nikki, Happy Mother's Day!!! Did anyone turn your kitchen into a disaster area whilst making you some breakfast in bed???

freezing cold, sillies!!!!!!!!!! (oops - it's relative so - not that cold here really......sorry :ph34r: )

Well, now you're just rubbing it in!!!

tom Contributor
I must add a disclaimer....movies such as Manhattan, Purple Rose of Cairo, Radio Days and Zelig are wonderfully crafted, hilarious, even gripping, films.

:o I should see those then

They are coming home today from the Walter Gretzky Hockey Tournament in Brantford. Sophie played very well...one game she had a shutout, and stopped 29 shots! This is a large number from teams this age. Good one, ma girl! :)

WOW!!!!!! :blink:

Way to GO kiddo!!

Tom!! WTH is flolf?! Freakin' Laughing Out Loud, Finally....?

:lol:

My " : " is on my F key .. ...oops

I must say, Ptaum, when I read that you're out seeing different bands every week, I feel a sudden pang of jealousy. Ah, to be able to just head out, sit in a lovely, intimate (or huge, and cacophanous) venue and let some terrific vocals wash over...

Maybe something to revisit in later life.... :)

Can the "maybe" bay-bee!!!

oooooWEEE the band was cookin' last night.

Rollicking & raucous, it was.

Better to be safe....and dishwasher leaks are never fun!

Oh lmao at an old memory. Long ago, Teresa was looking to do me a favor while I was out on an errand.

She couldn't find the dishwasher detergent, so I came home to basically an I Love Lucy episode in progress!!!!

She'd used the Dawn-type and the ever-increasing foam glacier combined w/ her look of omg-what-have-i-done fear & embarrassment launched me into such a laughing fit I could barely get out "you gotta lotta 'splainin' to do" & and it was only then she joined my rofl.

I like Robert Duvall . . . perhaps not as much as Susie . . . not in "that way" . . . but I do usually enjoy him as an actor.

No doubt a great actor, but it seems analogous to me saying I wanna do Ruth Gordon. :lol:

You can't even see his face . . . tell him to get over it or Emily will print it out the av and stick it in a frame at WalMart.

Gah!!! Yer KILLin me!!!!!!! :lol:

New av of The Redestruction. :lol:

And O .. . ..M .. .. . .G

This is a first .. ...~7:30am roomie starts throwin' down V8 & beer . ....wth???

I somehow got up at 5am, btw.


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blueeyedmanda Community Regular

Happy Mothers Day Nikki!!!

Actually it is quite warm here today for PA standards in March that is....It must be high 40's. Breakfast was good. :)

Now I must do laundry and then do some Cancer work and bills with John and budgeting for our home hunt. Plus we are hoping to go to the casino later today.

DingoGirl Enthusiast
Did we know this??? Kissey has a boy??? I think I remember most things, but I don't remember this. OK then . . . how old?

He has a 13-year-old son......very gifted in many areas and at one of our best schools, if not the best. No, I have not met him yet.........

OMG - would you sillies like to REAAAAAAALLY know how David and I met???????????????????

it was MATCH.COM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol::huh::blink::lol:

that's right......last July or August I was on Match for less than a week - paid for several months and DEMANDED my money back after I saw what in hell was out there. Highly discouraging, in this area........much better in metropolis's's's's - - Denver, Seattle, Chicago, etc. But here? dear gawd........Appalachian Dating Service and very desperate, uninteresting, vapid men. :huh:

Soooooooooooo......David was one who wrote to me because my profile was rather phunny and also included something like "one gazillion extra points if you own or have access to a cabin."

Well, he was the ONLY one with whom I corresponded......we actually met each other last summer in my neighborhood pub - but I was already dating someone and......truth be told D and I were somewhat lukewarm towards one anotehr in that first meeting. (we call it Love at Second Sight). Oh - worth mentioning that my lifelong friend has been friends w/ David's ex-wife since second grade.....so I DID have a character reference on him.

We have stayed in touch this whole time by phone and email.....I loved his subtlety, bone structure, ;) his interests, passions, tender heart, and his CABIN!!!!!!!!!!! Oh and his and complete LACK of desperation/clinginess. 'Twas only later that I discovered he smelled of Vetiver..... :wub:

So.....when I was finished w/ that brief relationship last summer, David was dating someone..........but then became free months ago and.........

Timing is everything. :)

So THAT"s how we officially met!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :ph34r::lol: :lol:

DingoGirl Enthusiast
New av of The Redestruction. :lol:

And O .. . ..M .. .. . .G

This is a first .. ...~7:30am roomie starts throwin' down V8 & beer . ....wth???

:lol: OMG - is that John AGAIN??????? passed out in dark suit on floor?

EMILY! forgot to say - GOOD JOB SOPHIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

blueeyedmanda Community Regular
He has a 13-year-old son......very gifted in many areas and at one of our best schools, if not the best. No, I have not met him yet.........

OMG - would you sillies like to REAAAAAAALLY know how David and I met???????????????????

it was MATCH.COM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol::huh::blink::lol:

that's right......last July or August I was on Match for less than a week - paid for several months and DEMANDED my money back after I saw what in hell was out there. Highly discouraging, in this area........much better in metropolis's's's's - - Denver, Seattle, Chicago, etc. But here? dear gawd........Appalachian Dating Service and very desperate, vapid men. :huh:

Soooooooooooo......David was one who wrote to me because my profile was rather phunny and also included something like "one gazillion extra points if you own or have access to a cabin."

Well, he was the ONLY one with whom I corresponded......we actually met each other last summer in my neighborhood pub - but I was already dating someone and......truth be told D and I were somewhat lukewarm towards one anotehr in that first meeting. (we call it Love at Second Sight).

We have stayed in touch this whole time by phone and email.....I loved his subtlety, bone structure, ;) his interests, passions, tender heart, and his CABIN!!!!!!!!!!! Oh and his and complete LACK of desperation/clinginess. 'Twas only later that I discovered he smelled of Vetiver..... :wub:

So.....when I was finished w/ that brief relationship last summer, David was dating someone..........but then became free months ago and.........

Timing is everything. :)

So THAT"s how we officially met!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :ph34r::lol: :lol:

Oh Susie that is so nice! Glad to know how it started too since I never really heard much about him until now. BTW he is a cutie! I wish you and him the best. :)

Darn210 Enthusiast
OMG - would you sillies like to REAAAAAAALLY know how David and I met???????????????????

it was MATCH.COM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol::huh::blink::lol:

that's right......last July or August I was on Match for less than a week - paid for several months and DEMANDED my money back after I saw what in hell was out there. Highly discouraging, in this area........much better in metropolis's's's's - - Denver, Seattle, Chicago, etc. But here? dear gawd........Appalachian Dating Service and very desperate, vapid men. :huh:

So yeah, yeah, yeah. . . all that lovey-dovey stuff . . . did you get your money back????

And yes, a Bravo to Sophie . . . how old is she again?

. . . and bills with John and budgeting for our home hunt. Plus we are hoping to go to the casino later today.

:lol::lol::lol: I think you've got some financial conflicts here!!!!

And yes Tom . . . John again? . . . absinthe again???

elye Community Regular
. . . tell him to get over it or Emily will print it out the av and stick it in a frame at WalMart.

:lol::lol:

Either that, or could place it in a new, lovely frame and give it as a birthday gift for Heb (best friend), as it is coming up.

With all of us now ensconced in the world of digital photography, there is no longer the supply of photo rejects that there once was, as we now simply delete the corners of heads and dog's bums, etc. So this had to happen--a new area to harvest. For Christmas Heb received a lovely pewter frame, and inside are three elderly tourists, one with a walker and another about four hundred pounds, wandering through the back of my shot as I snapped DH and the kids at the Tower of London. Honestly, she has it on her buffet. :lol:

I think we have enough wenches ladies that we could do that hideous coloUrs of the rainbow thing . . . Open Original Shared Link I think we need the hats, too.

OMG... :lol::lol::lol:

Those are Luuuurrrrrvvely. Let's get our hair done like theirs, as well.

....and then I wake up. :)

Kissey is skiing wif his boy today, I've got the day to meself, what will I do? :lol: (going to Mommy's)

Ohhh....well, thank Gawd you awaken from these nightmares, Susie!!

I don't remember hearing about a Mini-Kissey, either. Details!

I'm heading to my Mommy's too, to take her out on her errands. Think she may buy me lunch. :)

Yes. my preferred Sleep Shape is the letter L, body jack-knifed and legs kicked fully over to other side of the bed. Quite odd.

I'm an X meself. Thank Gawd, DH is usually an I, or we'd be in some trouble... :rolleyes:

DingoGirl Enthusiast
And yes Tom . . . John again? . . . absinthe again???

Janet - I believe you mean the VERB tense of the word - "absinthed again......."

:lol:

and yes, I did get my money back. ;)

Added an edit to my earlier writing - - I had a character reference on David because my lifelong friend has known his ex-wife since second grade, hence she's known D for many years, thereby eliminating the need for extensive background checks etc. on the man. :lol:

tom Contributor
:lol: OMG - is that John AGAIN??????? passed out in dark suit on floor?

Again!!!

Last night, prior to commencing the comparison, he actually says "well I learned MY lesson", and a couple hrs later he's sleeping on the bathroom floor.

(Not a suit, just bad lighting & measly camera)

BTW, it is ONLY absinthe that's had this effect as far as I know.

I think I *really* *REALLY* need to be out of the house most of the day. The dumbass also started w/ recreational Vicodin to go w/ the 7:30am beer(s).

How the hell does someone in their 40s decide to do this?

College's 1st taste of freedom this isn't.

jerseyangel Proficient
So THAT"s how we officially met!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :ph34r::lol: :lol:

What a nice story! :D

And yes, timing IS everything ;)

elye Community Regular
Janet - I believe you mean the VERB tense of the word - "absinthed again......."

:lol::lol: I absinthe, you absinthe, he/she absinthed, we are absinthing...

Added an edit to my earlier writing - - I had a character reference on David because my lifelong friend has known his ex-wife since second grade, hence she's known D for many years, thereby eliminating the need for extensive background checks etc. on the man. :lol:

Whoa! Huge coincidence, n'est-ce pas? (Tom, thought they didn't exist...) :lol:

You met David online, and turns out your friend knows well his ex?

Sophie's 14. Lovely daughter...a true tomboy. I love it.

These posts are chugging outta you guys too fast! I hit reply, and there's five more posts to respond to!! Gotta get to my Mommy....Gad....

Darn210 Enthusiast
I think I *really* *REALLY* need to be out of the house most of the day. The dumbass also started w/ recreational Vicodin to go w/ the 7:30am beer(s).

Holy Cow!!!! I concur!!

Run Forrest Tom Run!!

I really like love the strikethrough feature.

Darn210 Enthusiast
and yes, I did get my money back. ;)

Well, I'm sorry to hear that . . . that means it's unlikely that you'll ever be paid to do a commercial as one of their success stories!!

Darn210 Enthusiast

I also feel the need to point out that the seat is down again in John's bathroom.

elye Community Regular
I also feel the need to point out that the seat is down again in John's bathroom.

Well.....I suppose he does have to poop sometimes....

:o:lol:

blueeyedmanda Community Regular
Well.....I suppose he does have to poop sometimes....

:o:lol:

Even the best of us need to do that once in a few days ;)

blueeyedmanda Community Regular

Today I am also selling my excess wedding supplies onto Ebay....I have a lot of unused stuff..

nikki-uk Enthusiast
Like Sea Foam???? I can wear Sea Foam....now who wants to clash with me!!!

Bev I believe is wearing periwinkle

.we had one of those bad days yesterday and were both not so nice to each other..

:(

Terry and I have constant bad days after 20 yrs of marriage - - - completely bypassing the lovey dovey part after ;)

...only kidding Amanda - glad you sorted things out :)

I think we have enough wenches ladies that we could do that hideous coloUrs of the rainbow thing . . . Open Original Shared Link I think we need the hats, too.

Exquisite!!!!!!!!

....wait :unsure: ....there HAS to be a Hen night.......and we HAVE to wear Open Original Shared Link (BDP's)

Yes, Nikki, Happy Mother's Day!!! Did anyone turn your kitchen into a disaster area whilst making you some breakfast in bed???

No breakfast in bed as I was the first up - but the kitchen did look like a bomb had gone off (does that count?? :unsure: )

The boys know what side their bread is buttered and dutifully gave me a card AND some smelly bubble bath stuff (cleverly with NO help from their father :rolleyes: )

BTW, it is ONLY absinthe that's had this effect as far as I know.

:lol::lol::lol: OMGAWWD!!! John on the bathroom floor again!!!!!!!

The dumbass also started w/ recreational Vicodin to go w/ the 7:30am beer(s).

Hair of the dog???......or to stop the absinthinian shakes :blink:

I also feel the need to point out that the seat is down again in John's bathroom.

Ah yes, thankyou Janet :lol: ......yes....perhaps John done business before he passed out :lol: (ew - hope he flushed :o )

So, there is a miny Kissey age 13??? ......excellent news!!!.....

My 13 yr old son went out yesterday with friends to our local shopping centre mall.

When he came back he told me there was something he had to tell me.....but was scared....... :blink::blink:

What had happened???... a fight???....shoplifting??????.........*sigh*......something MUCH WORSE I fear <_<

He had met some GIRLS(!!!!!!!!) and took THREE of their numbers!!!!!!!!!!.....GAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

I have warned him off.....told him girls are EEEEEVIL!!!! ....but I fear nothing can stop this budding lothario :unsure:

elye Community Regular
Today I am also selling my excess wedding supplies onto Ebay....I have a lot of unused stuff..

Hey! Steer Kissey2 your way..... :)

....wait :unsure: ....there HAS to be a Hen night.......and we HAVE to wear Open Original Shared Link (BDP's)

Hell, you can't save something like that just for hen parties....I'm gettin' me one and wearing it to work! :rolleyes::lol:

He had met some GIRLS(!!!!!!!!) and took THREE of their numbers!!!!!!!!!!.....GAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

I have warned him off.....told him girls are EEEEEVIL!!!! ....but I fear nothing can stop this budding lothario :unsure:

Thank GAWD Sophie still thinks boys are disgusting...... :)<_<

So......Must tell you all about my errand trip out with my mom, and the uncomfortable development that has happened. My mother will be eighty in a month, but she's got all her marbles (at least, all that she's ever had)....Now, it seems that she has suddenly picked up some new vocabulary. She obviously likes the sound of it, as she is saying it regularly.

It's "fan-f*ckin-tastic". She says it at home, when we're speaking about the weather..."Look out the window. It looks fan-f*ckin'-tastic out there!", when she is discussing things with my Dad: "Oh, Les, you should wear that cardigan more often. It looks SO fan-f*ckin'-tasic!!" Gad....So, she sprinkled her conversation with it while out with me. At Home Depot, she told the elderly clerk who was helping her get paint, "That is exactly the colour I've been after. FAN-F*CKIN-TASTIC!!" I'm quickly walking away, by this time. Then, AGAIN, at the grocery store, to the bag packer, a teenage kid..."That's great....just put my eggs on the top, there.... fan-f*ckin'-tastic, young man."

Gaaaaaaaaaddddddd.... :lol::rolleyes::lol:

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      Welcome to the forum, Linda! Many on this forum can sympathize with you. It can be extremely difficult to get reliable information about gluten when it comes to meds, supplements and oral hygiene products. This is especially true since so much of this stuff is generic and comes from over seas. I will deflect with regard to your question about meds and oral products but take you in another direction. Have you tried a low iodine diet. Iodine is known to exacerbate dermatitis herpetiformis and some find that a low iodine diet helps reduce the number of outbreaks. By the way, have you had your celiac antibodies retested recently? If they are elevated that might be a clue that you are getting gluten in your oral hygiene products or meds.
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      Hi. I’m 70 years old, and a 22 year survivor of head and neck cancer treated with chemo-radiation, which resulted in non-existent submandibular salivary glands and extreme dry mouth and altered oral mucosa. I have been using dry mouth toothpaste, Rx oral dentrifices and moisturizers for years.  I’ve recently been diagnosed with severe celiac dermatitis herpetiformis. I was being treated with oral Dapsone, but it was not effective and I developed some serious side effects. So, the medication was stopped and I was started on Doxycycline (another antibiotic) for inflammation. I’ve been using Rx Betamethasone steroid ointment with little to no effect. I have tried every oral and topical antihistamine treatment available OTC. None have touched this horrible relentless itching. That is my history.  Now to my question. Does anybody know about gluten free toothpastes and mouth moisturizers? I ask because a very common dry mouth brand stated to me that they were indeed gluten free. But as I am not getting any better with my dermatitis herpetiformis, I was wondering if I was getting glutenized some way other than diet as  I have been following a strict clean gluten free diet, but I am not seeing any improvement at all. So, I started looking up the toothpastes and moisturizer ingredients individually and nine (9) of the eleven (11) or so listed showed up as   containing gluten or that may have gluten! Am I getting glutenized orally by these products?  As an aside, I checked on my favorite lavender scented baby lotion which is supposed to be gluten free, but many of those ingredients when investigated separately, show they  do contain or may contain gluten as well. I stopped using the lotion. But I cannot forgo my dental care. I was unable to get any information from the manufacturer of my current brand of chewable multivitamins either. They told me to check with my doctor. If THEY don’t know what’s in their product, how do they think a PCP will?  In light of all this, I am confused and angry that I might keep getting contaminated with gluten through products I am using that are supposedly gluten safe. *I should also state that I have a nickel allergy since I was about 12-13 years old. And I developed a contact allergy to latex (gloves) when I was a student nurse at 19 years old.  I know and I’m sorry that this is so lengthy. I’m trying to do everything I can to combat this condition, and I’m feeling very confused, anxious and angry about not getting adequate information as I try to educate and advocate for myself. I’m hoping someone here is more knowledgeable than me of how to navigate through all of this. Can anyone offer any advice?  Thank you for your time.  Respectfully,  Linda
    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @Cathijean90! I went 13 years from the first laboratory evidence of celiac disease onset before I was diagnosed. But there were symptoms of celiac disease many years before that like a lot of gas. The first laboratory evidence was a rejected Red Cross blood donation because of elevated liver enzymes. They assume you have hepatitis if your liver enzymes are elevated. But I was checked for all varieties of hepatitis and that wasn't it. Liver enzymes continued to slowly creep up for another 13 years and my PCP tested me for a lot of stuff and it was all negative. He ran out of ideas. By that time, iron stores were dropping as was albumin and total protein. Finally, I took it upon myself to schedule an appointment with a GI doc and the first thing he did was test me for celiac disease. I was positive of course. After three months of gluten free eating the liver enzymes were back in normal range. That was back in about 1992. Your story and mine are more typical than not. I think the average time to diagnosis from the onset of symptoms and initial investigation into causes for symptom is about 10 years. Things are improving as there is more general awareness in the medical community about celiac disease than there used to be years ago. The risk of small bowel lymphoma in the celiac population is 4x that of the general population. That's the bad news is.  The good news is, it's still pretty rare as a whole. Yes, absolutely! You can expect substantial healing even after all these years if you begin to observe a strict gluten free diet. Take heart! But I have one question. What exactly did the paperwork from 15 years ago say about your having celiac disease? Was it a test result? Was it an official diagnosis? Can you share the specifics please? If you have any celiac blood antibody test results could you post them, along with the reference ranges for each test? Did you have an endoscopy/biopsy to confirm the blood test results?
    • Cathijean90
      I’ve just learned that I had been diagnosed with celiac and didn’t even know. I found it on paperwork from 15 years ago. No idea how this was missed by every doctor I’ve seen after the fact. I’m sitting here in tears because I have really awful symptoms that have been pushed off for years onto other medical conditions. My teeth are now ruined from vomiting, I have horrible rashes on my hands, I’ve lost a lot of weight, I’m always in pain, I haven’t had a period in about 8-9 months. I’m so scared. I have children and I saw it can cause cancer, infertility, heart and liver problems😭 I’ve been in my room crying for the last 20minutes praying. This going untreated for so long has me feeling like I’m ruined and it’s going to take me away from my babies. I found this site googling and I don’t know really what has me posting this besides wanting to hear from others that went a long time with symptoms but still didn’t know to quit gluten. I’m quitting today, I won’t touch gluten ever again and I’m making an appointment somewhere to get checked for everything that could be damaged. Is this an automatic sentence for cancer and heart/liver damage after all these symptoms and years? Is there still a good chance that quitting gluten and being proactive from here on out that I’ll be okay? That I could still heal myself and possibly have more children? Has anyone had it left untreated for this amount of time and not had cancer, heart, fertility issues or liver problems that couldn’t be fixed? I’m sure I sound insane but my anxiety is through the roof. I don’t wanna die 😭 I don’t want something taking me from my babies. I’d gladly take anyone’s advice or hear your story of how long you had it before being diagnosed and if you’re still okay? 
    • trents
      Genetic testing cannot be used to diagnose celiac disease but it can be used to rule it out and also to establish the potential to develop celiac disease. About 40% of the general population has the genetic potential to develop celiac disease but only about 1% actually develop it. To develop celiac disease when you have the genetic potential also requires some kind of trigger to turn the latent genes "on", as it were. The trigger can be a lot of things and is the big mystery component of the celiac disease puzzle at this point in time with regard to the state of our knowledge.  Your IGA serum score would seem to indicate you are not IGA deficient and your tTG-IGA score looks to be in the normal range but in the future please include the reference ranges for negative vs. positive because different labs used different reference ranges. There is no industry standard.
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