The Funny Pages - Tickle Me Elbow - The Original

[nikki-uk]

.....but just think Sarah, soon (when you + yours are BETTER!) you could one day be working with people like

[jerseyangel]

Sarah--

Thanks for understanding what I was trying to say. Boy, that infection really has a hold on you--I thought for sure that the steroids would bring the inflammation down enough for you to make some headway.

I hear ya about Lucas. Maybe the situation will resolve on it's own once the reaction is over. I hope you don't have to start testing dairy too but yeah, it would make sense.

[jerseyangel]

.....but just think Sarah, soon (when you + yours are BETTER!) you could one day be working with people like

And wearing one of those HATS!

[Ridgewalker]

.....but just think Sarah, soon (when you + yours are BETTER!) you could one day be working with people like

OMG! Out-loud-guffaws over here! Really tickled me, exactly what I needed. Thank you for that!

Sarah--

Thanks for understanding what I was trying to say. Boy, that infection really has a hold on you--I thought for sure that the steroids would bring the inflammation down enough for you to make some headway.

I hear ya about Lucas. Maybe the situation will resolve on it's own once the reaction is over. I hope you don't have to start testing dairy too but yeah, it would make sense.

Yeah, this infection is incredible. All I want to do is sleep. No matter how much sleep I'm getting, I'm still tired! This week is gonna be interesting- the boys just started Spring Break today.

About Luke... one thing I've realized recently is that Ezra may be going through a reaction as well. He's been short tempered, having tantrums, lashing out, etc... all the things he was doing last fall before going gluten-free. I wouldn't say it's quite as severe, but this past week, he was even acting out at school. Screaming at his teachers... he even tried to bite another child! (I am seriously irritated with his teachers right now, but I'll save that for later.)

I didn't connect Ezra's symptoms to Luke's at first (mucous on the brain.) Hey, Ez doesn't really seem to get GI symptoms, it takes me awhile to catch up. *sigh*

So it's just GOT to be something in the house. My symptoms have been so crazy the past several weeks, I'd never notice if a couple more were thrown in. Actually..... I have been having heartburn every night for the past couple weeks. Diarrhea of course, but I attributed that to the abx.

Hmm.... maybe my insane kitchen-cleaning binge yesterday and the new toaster will take care of the problem.

Does anybody have that list of chemical names for gluten to look for in shampoos and stuff? Janet the Searchmeister, maybe?

Thanks for listening to me ramble.

[Mtndog]

OMG- the Best New name for CC goes to Damn-It-Janet "I love you!"- UFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

Have fun decorating the eggs, Alex

I want to say while I hate to see anyone--least of all my friends--having "down" days, it makes me less anxious that it's not just me. I had a hard time with anxiety, especially, and panic attacks. That feeling of doom and The same for the occasional feelings of depression that creep back. Then I get scared because I never want to go all the way back there.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again--there is so much that is not known about all this and we are sort of the "practice generation" of Celiac. Flying half the time by the seats of our pants.

At least we're all in this together and I thank goodness that I have ya'll

Patti- sorry I truncated your post but what you said just blew me away- I think we ALL know that pit of despair either having been in it ourselves or watched someone we love in it. It's horrid.

And speaking of having those episodes that you joust don't know where they came from- I have not had a single panic attack in 8 years! i used to have them on bridges and escalators. Well- guess what? Slap me silly- they're back! The first time I had one I was driving into Boston going over the Tobin Bridge and i had it. I started screaming at it- I'm like "Look you STUPID p[anic attack- I drove over the 5 mile long bay Bridge in San Francisco every day for two years without your help- Now PISS off!!!!!" It didn't listen. Told my doc about it- he asked me what I did- I told him I yelled at it and he burst out laughing. (Picture Sigmund Freud giggling)

I think it's reSILLYiance!!!!!!!!!!!

UN-medicated, UN-gluten-free and currently missing

Yes, agreed,some of our sillies are DOWN but NEVER OUT!! sooner or later WE keep bouncing back ...COS we are STRONG!!!!!

....<that sounded really corny ....but you know what I mean >

Oh Nikki- I'm sorry.

I love the fact that we are all in this together and humor has kept us going. On that note, err, Nikki and I have surprise for you. Nikki found the place and when I inherit my fortune from someone I have yet to know about we are allOpen Original Shared Link

[elye]

P'raps Tom and I can collaborate........I keep thinking there's got to be some way to turn my decades of misery into some help for sufferers......but don't know how.

2) I don't really write that well.

3) We can pound people over the head 'til the cows come home & they still won't believe the unbeLIEEEEEEEEVably drastic effect diet can have.

I could probably .. . ..screw "probably" .. .I COULD get past my fear discomfort if I really thought it would do some good.

All right....first of all, whaddya mean, Ptaum, ya don't really write that well? It's a trick? It's a Phd English neighboUr rushing over and composing your threads? Of course you write well...in fact, probably superbly at times when your brain is completely clear--the times that you've said you're feeling crappy, the prose is terrific! Anyway, that's what editors are for.....

I can't say how many people would read an account of someone's absolute turnaround from dietary change, but let's say it's one person who gets hold of your story, is close to death due to gluten/soy etc., and starts on the road to recovery. I think it's safe to posit that one person would be receptive to it all. Isn't that enough? I actually believe it would be many, many more......

I've said it before, and I'll say it again--there is so much that is not known about all this and we are sort of the "practice generation" of Celiac. Flying half the time by the seats of our pants.

At least we're all in this together and I thank goodness that I have ya'll

Yes, yes, THANK GOODNESS!!!

I feel exactly the same way about all of this, Patti. We are the second coming of the smoking generation a hundred years ago. People were starting to suspect that cigarettes played hell with their health, but my grandmother remembered how smoking was encouraged for a number of "nervous" ailments and pushed on the militia during the First World War to make them "stronger, less hungry, more courageous".

We have been born a generation, or two, too early. But by the time my grandkids are around, I am certain that the devastating effects of gluten on the human body will be known to everyone.

I bought another new toaster yesterday, and tore apart the kitchen, cleaning and scrubbing... I don't know what else to do. If this doesn't let up, I'm going to have to do a trial a elimination of dairy, which I HATE to do to him.

On top of all that, my ridiculous double doses of abx are doing NOTHING for my sinus infection. Now that I finished the steroids, my throat inflammation is coming back. Even the conjunctivitis in my right eye won't get better! What in hell!?!?!?!?!?! I've been doing the eye drops for a week, that should be GONE.

Sarah!! This is terrible. A BIG POOOOOOOPY COW!!! You need to get away from your poopy-doop life for a break. We should try to set you up as a nanny to escort Nikki's boy (Alan?) around Disney.

Have fun doin' eggs, Alex!

[jerseyangel]

UN-medicated, UN-gluten-free and currently missing

That's heartbreaking, Nikki

So it's just GOT to be something in the house.

With all of you having symptoms, it could very well be. Hey--ramble away...it's like thinking out loud and it really helps when trying to figure things out.

Nikki found the place and when I inherit my fortune from someone I have yet to know about we are allOpen Original Shared Link

Yes, yes, yes--I SO want to go there. Heck, I want to LIVE there Could you imagine if we could all go? I need to win the lottery--I tell Mark all the time, the first thing (ok, second after taking care of the boys) would be to throw a big get-together with all my Celiac friends. That's one of my fondest wishes

And Bev--you YELL at your panic attacks!!!!! How great is that!!!!

[jerseyangel]

Sarah--

Words to watch out for in shampoos and stuff....

Avena Sativa (Oat) Kernel Flour

Cyclodextrin

Dextrin

Dextrin Palmitate

Hydrolyzed Malt Extract

Hydrolyzed Oat Flour

Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein

Hydrolyzed Wheat Flour

Hydrolyzed Wheat Gluten

Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein

Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein/PVP Crosspolymer

Hydrolyzed Wheat Starch

Malt Extract

Maltodextrin

Secale Cereale (Rye) Seed Flour

Sodium C8-16 Isoalkylsuccinyl Wheat Protein Sulfonate

Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Extract

Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Oil

Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Gluten

Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Starch

Wheat Amino Acids

Wheat Germ Glycerides

Wheat Germamidopropalkonium Chloride

Wheat Protein

Wheatgermamidopropyl Ethyldimonium Ethosulfate

Yeast Extract

[elye]

Nikki found the place and when I inherit my fortune from someone I have yet to know about we are allOpen Original Shared Link

OMG....we are SO going there after the Laurentians!! Actually, it's not unreasonably priced--395 pounds is, what, about $850.00, for a week stay?

....Oh....but we gotta fly over there....

[Ridgewalker]

Sarah!! This is terrible. A BIG POOOOOOOPY COW!!! You need to get away from your poopy-doop life for a break. We should try to set you up as a nanny to escort Nikki's boy (Alan?) around Disney.

Oh, I would LOVE that! I wish I could!!!

With all of you having symptoms, it could very well be. Hey--ramble away...it's like thinking out loud and it really helps when trying to figure things out.

Exactly! That's exactly what it was like, thinking out loud.

And Bev, I LOVE it that you yelled at your panic attack. I wish it had worked.

[Ridgewalker]

Thanks Patti! I screened for obvious stuff a long time ago, but I was pretty sure there were some sneaky chemical names on that list... I will double check everything tonight.

[elye]

OMG......

I simply must interject into our serious talk a quotation from the Ripper himself, who asked me something a few minutes ago, while we were discussing Good Friday and what it means....

I started to explain what happened Biblically on Good Friday and Easter Sunday. He interrupted me:

"Mommy, wasn't Good Friday the day when Jesus crawled out of his cave and saw his shadow?"

[jerseyangel]

"Mommy, wasn't Good Friday the day when Jesus crawled out of his cave and saw his shadow?"

[Darn210]

OMG......

I simply must interject into our serious talk a quotation from the Ripper himself, who asked me something a few minutes ago, while we were discussing Good Friday and what it means....

I started to explain what happened Biblically on Good Friday and Easter Sunday. He interrupted me:

"Mommy, wasn't Good Friday the day when Jesus crawled out of his cave and saw his shadow?"

This may be a repeat as I love to tell this story, so my apologies if it is . . .

I had my daughter telling me that Jesus was the Easter Bunny . . . only to be interupted by her brother telling her that No, Jesus was more like a zombie.

[blueeyedmanda]

Evening Sillies! Well work was busier than usual, our nurse blew her knee out on the floor so we helped out the 1 other nurse who was working. I finished the Easter Shopping. I made a basket (Easter Bucket) for Silvia and Lydia both of our nieces, Sabrina my moms foster child and Landen our neighbor. I filled them with baby goodies. Silvia and Sabrina got theirs last weekend since we visited with them. Landen's is here now and Lydia's we will take to her tomorrow.

Landen just arrived and he is all smiles. For a Friday I already got my house cleaned up, laundry for work next week is almost dry, Landen's room is all ready....I am ahead of schedule and it is only 6:30! So now it is on to Weggies for groceries.

See all of you guys later

[Mtndog]

OMG.

"Mommy, wasn't Good Friday the day when Jesus crawled out of his cave and saw his shadow?"

:lol:

I had my daughter telling me that Jesus was the Easter Bunny . . . only to be interupted by her brother telling her that No, Jesus was more like a zombie.

Wouldn't you be if you had to do all the stuff poor Jesus had to do? :lol:

Gah...turns out Easter was a sexy holiday!!!!!! Tell your kids easter was about doin' it (NO insult intended....I was just curious how the heck the Easter Bunny came along in such a seemingly unrelated holiday)

In second century Europe, the predominate spring festival was a raucous Saxon fertility celebration in honor of the Saxon Goddess Eastre (Ostara), whose sacred animal was a hare.

The colored eggs associated with the bunny are of another, even more ancient origin. The eggs associated with this and other Vernal festivals have been symbols of rebirth and fertility for so long the precise roots of the tradition are unknown, and may date to the beginning of human civilization. Ancient Romans and Greeks used eggs as symbols of fertility, rebirth, and abundance- eggs were solar symbols, and figured in the festivals of numerous resurrected gods.

[elye]

Wouldn't you be if you had to do all the stuff poor Jesus had to do?

You bet....he must have had an assistant or a booking agent. I'd love to have had a look at his day-timer...talk about full days!

[tom]

Sheesh it's happenin' again. Pages to reply to & everyone's gone by the time I can do it.

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UN-medicated, UN-gluten-free and currently missing

oh that's such a shame and .. . .I think Patti had the right word - heartbreaking.

Yes, agreed,some of our sillies are DOWN but NEVER OUT!! sooner or later WE keep bouncing back ...COS we are STRONG!!!!!

....<that sounded really corny ....but you know what I mean >

I didn't think corny at all. More towards inspirational.

Wait!!!!!!!!!!! You forgot me!!!!!!! I'm coming, I'm coming (flapping wings VERY hard in living room as we speak!!!!!!!!!!! Hope Peter doesn't shoot me out of the sky over Canada!!

I have always thought there's something to this thread about resilience. Here are a bunch of people who have been through HELL, and yet we have all chosen to laugh and not cry. It's the 2nd longest thread on the board!!!!!!!!!! Hmmm...I'm sensing "Silly Soup for the Celiac Soul"

Patti - that "practice generation" phrase of yours sure rings true.

I was surprised to learn awhile back that when I was "gluten-free" by Dr's orders until age 5, it was really only wheat-free.

They didn't even know about barley & rye yet!

... a couple friends have asked me, What's it going to be like for the boys when they get to college and have to be on this diet? Among other things, I've told them that things have changed a lot for Celiacs in the past few years. They'll continue to change, and who knows where we'll be in 10 years.

Absolutely. Things HAVE been changing quickly and I think also accelerating.

I bought another new toaster yesterday, and tore apart the kitchen, cleaning and scrubbing... I don't know what else to do. If this doesn't let up, I'm going to have to do a trial a elimination of dairy, which I HATE to do to him.

Ooh boy, I hope not too. But it could be temporary & of course if ya gotta ya gotta.

[Darn210]

In second century Europe, the predominate spring festival was a raucous Saxon fertility celebration in honor of the Saxon Goddess Eastre (Ostara), whose sacred animal was a hare.

The colored eggs associated with the bunny are of another, even more ancient origin. The eggs associated with this and other Vernal festivals have been symbols of rebirth and fertility for so long the precise roots of the tradition are unknown, and may date to the beginning of human civilization. Ancient Romans and Greeks used eggs as symbols of fertility, rebirth, and abundance- eggs were solar symbols, and figured in the festivals of numerous resurrected gods.

Look who's OraclePeteing????

[tom]

Part Deux

On top of all that, my ridiculous double doses of abx are doing NOTHING for my sinus infection. Now that I finished the steroids, my throat inflammation is coming back. Even the conjunctivitis in my right eye won't get better! What in hell!?!?!?!?!?! I've been doing the eye drops for a week, that should be GONE.

Grrrrrrr

Seems Royal Edict #3 had little effect.

Anyway... to reiterate, I, too, am sooooooo glad to have you all here. I really don't know where I'd be without you!

Big ditto on that from me!!

You're all treasured. Just knowing I can talk to people who understand is of great comfort.

Yeah Bev!!! Verbally punish that panic attack!!

All right....first of all, whaddya mean, Ptaum, ya don't really write that well? It's a trick? It's a Phd English neighboUr rushing over and composing your threads? Of course you write well...in fact, probably superbly at times when your brain is completely clear--the times that you've said you're feeling crappy, the prose is terrific! Anyway, that's what editors are for.....

Oh, my dear Em . .. . .I know good writing when I see it, and it's pretty much never from my fingers. I know I can communicate quite well on a good day, but I was thinking of Good Writing, in the sense that it's a joy to read, regardless of the topic.

Books should be that way, imo.

(Hmmmm why is it so many arent?)

I can't say how many people would read an account of someone's absolute turnaround from dietary change, but let's say it's one person who gets hold of your story, is close to death due to gluten/soy etc., and starts on the road to recovery. I think it's safe to posit that one person would be receptive to it all. Isn't that enough? I actually believe it would be many, many more......

OK . .. .. .you HAVE given me something to think about, now that I've thought of simple online publishing where, w/ enough of the right metatags, maybe it WOULD at least show up in someone's googling.

Hmmmmmmm

I used to think "well how the hell would the right person ever get a hold of it?"

. .. .but my grandmother remembered how smoking was encouraged for a number of "nervous" ailments and pushed on the militia during the First World War to make them "stronger, less hungry, more courageous".

I remember ads saying "good for your digestion".

Anyone else wonder if the advent of this notion was related to things like Patti's smoking years being most asymptomatic?

Em! The Ripper & Punxsutawney Christ!

Hmmmm well .. . .some great jazz 3 blocks away tonight but John's off over the eastern hills in Livermore w/ his "winner" from YahooPersonals, and Doreen & Mei & Shelly & Tony & Charles are busy.

So I suppose I go alone again, naturally.

Sure sucks not feeling able to plan ahead lately. How the hell would *I* know whether tomorrow will suck?

But hey .. .maybe I meet someone interesting tonight.

[Darn210]

Absolutely. Things HAVE been changing quickly and I think also accelerating.

My son's pulmonologist thinks the whole Celiac/gluten intolerance thing is going to explode . . . a lot larger percentage than people (docs/scientists) think.

A story about our pulmonologist . . . I love him . . . by far my favoUrite doctor of all the doctor's that I've dealt with . . . oh, fyi, son is border line asthmatic and appears to be outgrowing it. . . anywho, whenever we see him (once a year, now) he always talks to my son first. Doesn't want me to talk and influence my son's answers. Is always patient when my daughter interupts because she absolutely can't be left out of anything!!! I have NEVER been rushed at his office. . . A couple of years ago, at the end of one of his appts, my son asked the doc where he keeps the anti-venom. They then had a very thorough discussion of who needs anti-venom. Which hospitals would have it. How to store it. What kind of doctors use it. Documentories on venomous snakes on TV . . . on and on. As he walked us out the door, he grinned and said to me "Best conversation I've had all week!"

[tom]

The colored eggs associated with the bunny are of another, even more ancient origin.

And much easier to handle than dyed rooster sperm. <ewwww>

You bet....he must have had an assistant or a booking agent. I'd love to have had a look at his day-timer...talk about full days!

Or his Dei-Planner

I bet the Franklin ppl were pissed having to toss all the inventory that didn't say A.D.

[Ridgewalker]

"Mommy, wasn't Good Friday the day when Jesus crawled out of his cave and saw his shadow?"

I had my daughter telling me that Jesus was the Easter Bunny . . . only to be interupted by her brother telling her that No, Jesus was more like a zombie.

Hilarious! Luke was on the phone with my MIL tonight, telling her the toys he wants for Easter... like it's Christmas or something.

In second century Europe, the predominate spring festival was a raucous Saxon fertility celebration in honor of the Saxon Goddess Eastre (Ostara), whose sacred animal was a hare.

The colored eggs associated with the bunny are of another, even more ancient origin. The eggs associated with this and other Vernal festivals have been symbols of rebirth and fertility for so long the precise roots of the tradition are unknown, and may date to the beginning of human civilization. Ancient Romans and Greeks used eggs as symbols of fertility, rebirth, and abundance- eggs were solar symbols, and figured in the festivals of numerous resurrected gods.

Cool!

Speaking of eggs, I fixed some scrambled Chicken Butt Cootie eggs for the kids' breakfast this morning. The kids were fascinated by the various-sized brown eggs, and the fact that they came from my best friend's mom's chickens. They're calling them "Real Eggs." Lucas (quite correctly) noted that they taste better than "grocery store eggs." Brian says he doesn't care, he's still not eating them. I'm going to keep working on him.

Grrrrrrr

Seems Royal Edict #3 had little effect.

No, but thanks for the effort. *sigh* It CAN'T go on forever... Right???????

Sure sucks not feeling able to plan ahead lately. How the hell would *I* know whether tomorrow will suck?

I hate that! I have been through that... going to bed wondering, Am I going to be ok tomorrow, or is tomorrow going to suck? There are people who would say, You have to MAKE it a good day. I don't say that quite so glibly, and kind of think those people need to occasionally be smacked. (((Hugs)))

Or his Dei-Planner

It's 12:30... but The Thing is on AMC. I'm never gonna get to bed tonight. I love this movie.

[elye]

Mornin', Silllies!! Rise and shine! The rooster is crowing. Speaking of roosters...

And much easier to handle than dyed rooster sperm. <ewwww>

Ptaum, that wasn't loud enough.....EEEEEEWWWWWWWWWW!!!

Or his Dei-Planner

...Wonder if his planner was page-an-epoch, with added pages for Eucharists, etc. I suppose as well there was NO page or section for Sunday, as there was nothin' goin' on workwise in his life on that day....

I bet the Franklin ppl were pissed having to toss all the inventory that didn't say A.D.

Yes!! Biblical Y2K...Was everyone braced and ready for their primitive technologies to suffer technical meltdown? Rivers parting an hour too early, great floods every few days....

No, but thanks for the effort. *sigh* It CAN'T go on forever... Right???????

RIGHT!! I know things will be better for you and your gang soon, Sarah...hang in there!

[blueeyedmanda]

Morning Sillies...well we got practice with a sick baby last night. Landen has an earache which we knew about. He is on abx. Well, he did sleep through the night, but he woke at 5:30 coughing enough that I went to check on him.....upon finding he peed through everything! So got him all changed up and then John gave him a bottle since he had not really eaten last night. I gave him some tylenol which his mom brought along and he did get back to sleep. He got up at 7:30 coughing again and his mom arrived about 7:50, 5 minutes before she walks in I was holding him upright on my shoulder and he let loose what sounded like a "Wet" fart....he smiled a bit and I joked with him about being a little piggy. Then he did it again only longer.....and then again. My shirt felt a little wet....and sure enough he pooed in the liquid form all over himself and me.....and oh sillies not good! His mom was coming any minute so I didnt want to through him into the bathtub either. So I started to clean him up as she came through the door. He was smiling again though....