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nikki-uk Enthusiast
- the new photo on my fridge is Dr. McDreamy (Patrick Dempsey - go figure!) - oh my gawd - - sexiest man alive (I just KNOW he'll be the one on People mag whenever they do that).....I also find De Niro extremely attractive - very sexy .....also am in love with the younger Robert Duvall - heck, he's even sexy now
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I'm with you on the older man thing!

OMG Nikki - - am putting highlights in hair today - - using foil - lifting color completely and then adding dark ash blonde - - - am so scared - help me!!!! :o:lol:

Oh Susan,you do get yourself in a pickle!

Be sure to let the bleach take beyond the orange stage! (It may take longer than it says on the packet)

Another tip is to keep your head warm whilst the bleach is on,..insider tip....put a plastic bag on your head (Taking care not to cover face!) but make a hole at the top of the bag so your head gets a little venilation :blink: (Gawd, I wish I were there to supervise!! :unsure: )

Keep checking the strands so they don't get over done by unwrapping the foil ,give it a little tug.If it starts to stretch like elastic then it's time to get the bleach off QUICK!!!..But please don't let it get to that stage :o

(Cyber hairdressing is so hard! :lol: )

You must tell us how it turns out :unsure: (I think!)


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chrissy Collaborator

hey ladies-----i missed this thread---or i was ignoring it. do think that could be some sort of sub-concious attempt to avoid my age?LOL!! i haven't read everything---but i've seen skin and hair coloring covered.

get this------at 40 years old, i was pregnant, wearing braces, and had acne.

how do you cover the gray in your hair, but still keep the natural highlight colors in your hair----please tell me it can be done!!!

CarlaB Enthusiast

Christine, my husband bought an infrared sauna for me, and it's drawing out toxins, thus I have some acne right now .... I'm getting braces next week (TMJ problems), but I'm not pregnant (though I sometimes feel bloated and nauseous) ... I'm 43.

I have no idea on the hair question. I'd see a pro! Maybe they can do some highlights and lowlights.

lonewolf Collaborator
how do you cover the gray in your hair, but still keep the natural highlight colors in your hair----please tell me it can be done!!!

YES! This is what I want to do too!

dlp252 Apprentice
how do you cover the gray in your hair, but still keep the natural highlight colors in your hair----please tell me it can be done!!!

I see a professional, lol. She somehow does it. I ocassionally get more pronounced highlighting done (hence the nearly blonde hair last summer), cuz sometimes I like it chunky, but if I just do my normal thing every 5 weeks, she does the color and somehow I have subtle lights and darks but no gray. I think it's because she just puts the color mostly near the roots, but then combs it through a little just at the end before she puts the plastic cap on and sits me under the dryer. My whole process, hair cut, color, dryer, styling and all takes just about exactly one hour.

DingoGirl Enthusiast

Welcome Christine! Yes, we talk about skin, hair, movies, and boys....(well, film stars anyway)....guess we're still teenagers at heart!!

My niece (who's now 23) lived with me in Monterey the summer she was 16. I had a girlfriend visit, we've known each other since we were 3. So....my friend and I were sitting there making pro and con lists of our respective boyfriends....why we SHOULD stay with them and why we should NOT stay with them....howling wtih laughter....but very serious about the whole thign. My niece just cracked up - said, well I can see that things don't change much, do they? :lol:

Have just received stern admonishment over the phone from my best friend...."you are heading into dangerous territory with this highlight thing....." :o:lol:

Nikki - - wish you were here!

nikki-uk Enthusiast
Have just received stern admonishment over the phone from my best friend...."you are heading into dangerous territory with this highlight thing....." :o:lol:

Oh you bet !! :o:lol::lol:

Anyway, if it all goes wrong you can um..buy a nice hat .. :ph34r:


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AndreaB Contributor

Nikki, how long does it take to fly over from Europe/England?

Susan may need some help. :ph34r:

Susan, you are a very brave soul to do this. :unsure:

DingoGirl Enthusiast
Susan may need some help. :ph34r:

Susan, you are a very brave soul to do this. :unsure:

Brave....or stupid.....not sure :ph34r::lol: Foil and bleach are on my head, only in three spots (test procedure but I wouldn't add much more than this anyway), near the face. Will wash bleach off soon....then apply color....dear gaaaawd....... :o

p.s. it is MUCH harder than I thought, applying evenly......

Ursa Major Collaborator
Christine, my husband bought an infrared sauna for me, and it's drawing out toxins, thus I have some acne right now .... I'm getting braces next week (TMJ problems), but I'm not pregnant (though I sometimes feel bloated and nauseous) ... I'm 43.

Wow, I got braces at 43, had them for three years, and an upper retainer for another year after that. It takes longer as an adult. Make sure you own a water-pik (or similar thing) instead of having to floss (flossing takes forever between braces, and is the most frustrating thing in the world), and an electric toothbrush. Those are life-savers when having braces! I don't think I would have lasted without them.

CarlaB Enthusiast

Thanks, Ursula, I think you gave Chloe that same advice when she got hers and I bought her a Water Pik based on your recommendation.

I can't stand stuff between my teeth, so I floss at least twice a day. These spacers are driving me crazy!

The system this ortho uses is a little different than the traditional so it's only supposed to take a year to a year and a half. Then I'll have an invisible, permanent retainer behind my teeth and a guard to wear at night since I grind.

DingoGirl Enthusiast

DISASTER

OMG - - first I lifted all the color (dang, hard to do this and not get it all over your head), and it was bright golden whitish/orange....and then....put on medium brown with dark ash blonde....OMG - - now it is

GREEN

:ph34r::o:ph34r::o:ph34r::o

so now, corrective color at the salon tomorrow, not until 2:30....this is SO Heinous!!!! WHY WHY WHY do I do thsi to myself...seems to happen every 5 or 6 years.....and I always thing, no, this time, it will work....and never does....

:o:o:o

so now.....am going to eat some nuggets, and make jewelry, later, put on a hat and walk the dogs.....

Jestgar Rising Star

In high school I had several months with green hair and as an adult I spent 1 day with hair that looked like a ladybug (don't ask)

AndreaB Contributor

So what do you like better......orange or green? :blink:

I'm sorry, good thing you'll be able to get it taken care of tomorrow.

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular

Can you spike it and pretend that you meant for it to look that way?

On a more serious note--is it possible that hair color can cause the immune system to freak out? I've been wondering because I did highlights a month or two before my thyroid went kaflooie, and then I stopped with the highlights. fAst forward 19 years: I started with all-over hair color. I also started with gas and bloating and the back-and-forth loose-stools/mild constipation stuff. I gave hair coloring one final try just a few weeks before my DH type rash appeared on my arms.

Could be total coincidence, of course--but what if it isn't?

jerseyangel Proficient
Can you spike it and pretend that you meant for it to look that way?

:lol::lol:

Look at it this way--tomorrow at this time, it'll be all fixed! We've all done something like that at least once. A couple years ago, I tried to lighten mine myself with the then-new L'Oreal "For Brunettes Only". It was supposed to safely lighten brown hair in one step--only not! I had a orange-ish, dull brown! :ph34r: At least these things can be fixed!

Jestgar--a ladybug? Love to hear about that one :D

Lisa Mentor

Road trip, rember. In Northern Maine and how cool. We are in Bethel Maine, in the mountains. It is sooo beautiful.

Be home Friday.

(just a little advise for travelers, don't drive throught New York City, if you celiac in not undercontrol, your nerves along will retrigger EVERYTHING.)

Write later, when I'm home.

Lisa

jerseyangel Proficient
Road trip, rember. In Northern Maine and how cool. We are in Bethel Maine, in the mountains. It is sooo beautiful.

Be home Friday.

(just a little advise for travelers, don't drive throught New York City, if you celiac in not undercontrol, your nerves along will retrigger EVERYTHING.)

Write later, when I'm home.

Lisa

Lisa,

Sounds like you're having a nice vacation! Yes, the NYC traffic is daunting if you're not used to it.

Have a safe trip home! :)

rinne Apprentice
so now.....am going to eat some nuggets, and make jewelry, later, put on a hat and walk the dogs.....

Call me suspicious but I see a plot, after all how could anyone not sympathize with your need for nuggets once your hair was green. :ph34r::lol::lol:

Fess up, it's all about the nuggets, isn't it?

jerseyangel Proficient

Hi Celia--how are you feeling today? Better? :)

Anyone watching Dancing With the Stars tonight? I'm absolutely hooked :ph34r:

CarlaB Enthusiast

I agree with Rinne about the nuggets!! :o

lonewolf Collaborator
DISASTER

OMG - - first I lifted all the color (dang, hard to do this and not get it all over your head), and it was bright golden whitish/orange....and then....put on medium brown with dark ash blonde....OMG - - now it is

GREEN

:ph34r::o:ph34r::o:ph34r::o

so now, corrective color at the salon tomorrow, not until 2:30....this is SO Heinous!!!! WHY WHY WHY do I do thsi to myself...seems to happen every 5 or 6 years.....and I always thing, no, this time, it will work....and never does....

:o:o:o

so now.....am going to eat some nuggets, and make jewelry, later, put on a hat and walk the dogs.....

Susan, I'm sorry it didn't work, and I'm trying hard to not laugh. This reminds me of the scene in "Anne of Green Gables" where she tries to dye her hair black and the same thing happens. I think I'll stick with my natural color - you've convinced me.

CarlaB Enthusiast
Susan, I'm sorry it didn't work, and I'm trying hard to not laugh. This reminds me of the scene in "Anne of Green Gables" where she tries to dye her hair black and the same thing happens. I think I'll stick with my natural color - you've convinced me.

Or at least have a pro do it!!

DingoGirl Enthusiast
Call me suspicious but I see a plot, after all how could anyone not sympathize with your need for nuggets once your hair was green. :ph34r::lol::lol:

Fess up, it's all about the nuggets, isn't it?

WHAT???? I think not..... ;)

I agree with Rinne about the nuggets!! :o

what is this, a nugget conspiracy??? :o:lol:

yup, two things I've done TO MYSELF recently....(although, you'd all be so proud, didn't eat enough nuggets to get sick this time!) and BTW I never expect sympathy when I've over-nuggetted myself...

Fiddle - Faddle....the only thing I've heard about hair color is that the blacks and browns cause bladder cancer...heard this from my friend's mom, a breast cancer survivor...dont' know if this is true or not.

Or at least have a pro do it!!

Yup, definitely don't try this at home....dang, I just want highlights....why is it so complicated.....and expensive

Lisa - have fun and be safe - can't imagine driving in NYC!

Cecile.....so glad you're seeing the doctor....we just always have to press on and keep trying for wellness and health...I know it's a bummer. HUGS to you :)

am hiding in the back bedroom :ph34r: ...my Stepford neighbor came over to pay me for watchign the dog this weekend - fortunately my doorbell doesn't work - I ignored the barking - can't be seen like this..... :o she would not understand :lol:

Ursa Major Collaborator

Well, Susan, I am afraid I haven't laughed this hard in ages, tears were just streaming down my face when I read about your hair disaster. So, even if maybe you look like a clown temporarily, you did a good deed by cheering me up. I can understand not wanting to answer the door, though. :ph34r:

I was also thinking of Anne of Green Gables, I love that part where she dyes her hair green, too funny. It sure cured her of wanting to change her beautiful hair colour (at least by herself :rolleyes: ).

Floridian, what is your name? Some people call you Celia, and others Cecile, and I'm confused and don't know what to call you!

Lisa, the traffic is horrific in NYC, and nobody obeys the traffic lights, what chaos! Not even my husband (who is used to Toronto traffic) would drive there when we where there for a conference a few years ago. He returned the rental car when we got to the hotel (we rented it in Washington, D.C. and drove through Pensylvania County). We just used taxis and buses and walked while there, instead of driving. I wouldn't even try it, I don't drive in Toronto, either, if I can help it, too stressful.

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