Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):

    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Atropine

CarlaB

Recommended Posts

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
Posted

I am getting braces next week ... fun, but my TMJ is feeling much better, and this is the next step.

My ortho wants me to take atropine to dry out my mouth 30 min. before my appt. Anyone know if it's gluten-free? Anyone with any experience taking this, it doesn't sound good to me ...

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


Michi8 Contributor
Michi8
Posted
I am getting braces next week ... fun, but my TMJ is feeling much better, and this is the next step.

My ortho wants me to take atropine to dry out my mouth 30 min. before my appt. Anyone know if it's gluten-free? Anyone with any experience taking this, it doesn't sound good to me ...

Sorry, no experience with it. I also don't remember having to take any drug like that when I had braces put on. Is it common practice now?

Michelle

TriticusToxicum Explorer
TriticusToxicum
Posted

I don't know if it's gluten-free or not, all i remember was drinking ALOT of h20 after all was said and done. That stuff REALLY works! You're in for a real treat! You may want to check on the latex they use to make the molds too, some of them are flavored (what's the point?) with lord knows what. :blink:

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
Posted
  • Author
I don't know if it's gluten-free or not, all i remember was drinking ALOT of h20 after all was said and done. That stuff REALLY works! You're in for a real treat! You may want to check on the latex they use to make the molds too, some of them are flavored (what's the point?) with lord knows what. :blink:

Thanks for the suggestion. I already had the molds done a couple months ago. I have tmj disorder so this is the final stage of the treatment. I went for the unflavored latex. :blink:

So, did you have it recently? After knowing about celiac? I'm wondering if you got glutened from it.

Michelle, my daughter did not have it for her braces, but she goes to a different ortho (hers is walking distance from our house, mine is a tmj specialist).

2kids4me Contributor
2kids4me
Posted

atropine has no gluten - it originates from a plant.

It is usually used in procedures that require a general anesthetic, it has side effects (different than "complications"). It does affect heart rate. I would aska few more questions - If you have concerns - would the Dr be willing to just use suction instead? or does that interfere with putting the braces on?

If the amount is small - then all it will do is dry the mouth and perhaps dilate the pupils but shouldnt affect the heart rate in small doses.

Atropine a naturally occurring alkaloid of "atropa belladonna", is a competitive antagonist of muscarinic cholinergic receptors. It is absorbed from the gastro-intestinal tract, and is excreted in the urine. Atropine undergoes hepatic metabolism and has a plasma half-life of 2-3 hours. Atropine ampoules should be stored away from light and never be frozen.

Uses: When used as premedication for anaesthesia, atropine decreases bronchial and salivary secretions, blocks the bradycardia associated with some drugs used in anaesthesia such as halothane, suxamethonium and neostigmine, and also helps prevent bradycardia from excessive vagal stimulation.

Dose and Administration: Around 500-600mcg are used as a premedication in adults administered intramuscularly 30-60 minutes before surgery. Alternatively it may be given intravenously at induction of anaesthesia. Children should receive 20mcg/kg.

When used to treat bradycardias 250-500mcg is generally effective in adults whilst children should receive 10-20mcg/kg.

During reversal of neuromuscular blockade in adults 1 - 1.2mg of atropine is given mixed with 2.5-5mg neostigmine.

Main effects: There is usually an increase in heart rate and sometimes a tachycardia as well as inhibition of secretions (causing a dry mouth) and relaxation of smooth muscle in the gut, urinary tract and biliary tree. Since atropine crosses the blood brain barrier CNS effects in the elderly may include amnesia, confusion and excitation. Pupillary dilatation and paralysis of accommodation occur, with an increase in intraocular pressure especially in patients with glaucoma. Occasionally small intravenous doses may be accompanied by slowing of the heart rate due to a central effect - this resolves with an extra increment of intravenous atropine.

Cautions: Avoid large doses of atropine in the elderly. Glycopyrrolate, which does not cross the blood brain barrier, is not associated with CNS excitability but is more expensive and less effective for treating bradycardias. Atropine should be avoided when possible in febrile children as the body temperature may be further increased, particularly in places with a high environmental temperature.

Adverse effects: Being a sympathetic cholinergic blocking agent, signs of parasympathetic block may occur such as dryness of the mouth, blurred vision, increased intraocular tension and urinary retention.

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
Posted
  • Author

Thanks, Sandy, it's just one small capsule, so I would say it's a small dose.

2kids4me Contributor
2kids4me
Posted

and given orally - it's effects will be minimal - as in limited to dry mouth.

A note to those with other allergies -atropine is derives from a nightshade plant.

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


TriticusToxicum Explorer
TriticusToxicum
Posted
I went for the unflavored latex. :blink:

So, did you have it recently? After knowing about celiac? I'm wondering if you got glutened from it.

Unflavored latex? That's a different thread! :ph34r:

No, I'm recollecting from 20+ yrs ago, back when braces were braces. None of this hide 'em behind your teeth business, no sir-ee we wore 'em bright 'an shine-eee up front! None of those purple sparkl-ee rubber bands either!

I was lucky enough to get my braces on x-mas eve. I remember how pitiful I felt on x-mas day, mashed taters and jello only for dinner!

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
Posted
  • Author

Umm, yea, mine are right up front, stainless, no rubber bands ... He uses the Damon system, but won't use the porcelain ones because they wear away, very high failure rate .... so bright and shiny stainless braces for me!! I'm going to put my hair in pigtails and go as a "kid" for Halloween!!! :lol::lol:

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):


  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      128,087
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    C.E.L
    Newest Member
    C.E.L
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.1k
    • Total Posts
      70.6k
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Scott Adams
      Testing for celiac

      By Scott Adams · Posted

      Getting tested for celiac disease is a valid concern, especially given your history of microscopic colitis and the potential risks associated with undiagnosed celiac disease, such as cross-contamination, nutrient malabsorption, and increased cancer risk. Since you’ve been gluten-free for years, reintroducing gluten for the standard celiac blood tests or endoscopy would be challenging, as it requires consuming gluten for several weeks to months, which could worsen your symptoms and disrupt your daily life. Gene testing (HLA-DQ2 and HLA-DQ8) through a lab like EnteroLab could be a helpful first step. While these genes are present in nearly all celiac patients, having them doesn’t confirm celiac disease—it only indicates genetic susceptibility. If you don’t have these genes, celiac disease is highly unlikely, which could provide some peace of mind. However, if you do have the genes, it doesn’t confirm celiac disease but suggests further testing might be warranted if you’re willing to undergo a gluten challenge. Another option is to discuss with your doctor whether a follow-up endoscopy or other non-invasive tests (like stool tests for gluten antibodies) could provide insights without requiring a gluten challenge. While a formal celiac diagnosis can be important for ensuring strict dietary adherence, access to gluten-free options in hospitals, and monitoring for complications, it’s also worth weighing the risks and benefits of reintroducing gluten. If you’re already strictly gluten-free and managing your symptoms well, the urgency of a formal diagnosis may depend on your personal health goals and concerns. Consulting a gastroenterologist familiar with celiac disease and Microscopic Colitis can help guide your decision.
    • Scott Adams
      Glutening symptom? oily stool

      By Scott Adams · Posted

      Steatorrhea (oily or fatty stools) can indeed be a symptom of malabsorption, which is often linked to gluten exposure in individuals with celiac disease. While it’s possible that a single glutening event, like cross-contamination at a restaurant, could trigger temporary steatorrhea, it’s also worth considering whether there’s a more chronic source of gluten exposure, such as in medications or ongoing dietary mistakes. Since you’ve been less careful recently and experienced this symptom after eating out, it’s plausible that the fries or other cross-contaminated foods could be the culprit. However, if the steatorrhea persists, it might indicate ongoing gluten exposure or another underlying issue, such as pancreatic insufficiency or bile acid malabsorption. Until you can see a GI doctor, it might help to strictly avoid any potential sources of gluten, including cross-contamination, and monitor your symptoms. If the issue continues, it’s important to investigate further, as persistent steatorrhea can lead to nutrient deficiencies. In the meantime, keeping a detailed food and symptom diary could help identify patterns or triggers. Good luck finding a new GI doctor—hopefully, they can provide clarity soon!  
    • Scott Adams
      Status Update...

      By Scott Adams · Posted

      As you noticed, GliadinX is a site sponsor which I use regularly whenever I eat outside my home. There have been multiple studies which have shown that AN-PEP enzymes, used in the product, can break down small amounts of gluten in the stomach, which you can read here: https://www.gliadinx.com/publications
    • Scott Adams
      Permanent Floating & Undigested Stools for a Year

      By Scott Adams · Posted

      It sounds like you're dealing with a complex situation involving multiple factors, including type 1 diabetes, celiac disease, and potential pancreatic or digestive issues. While your doctor has ruled out pancreatic insufficiency based on one normal elastase result, it’s worth noting that elastase levels can fluctuate, and a single test might not capture the full picture. Weight gain, especially with hgh injections, doesn’t necessarily rule out malabsorption, as nutrient deficiencies can still occur even if weight is stable. Regarding celiac disease, even small cross-contamination from "may contain gluten" foods could contribute to ongoing intestinal damage, especially since antibody tests aren’t always reliable indicators of healing. A follow-up endoscopy might provide more clarity. The persistent floating and undigested stools could suggest malabsorption, potentially impacting vitamin or protein levels, so it might be helpful to check for deficiencies. The fructose and lactose intolerance tests could be unreliable due to improper fasting or dietary preparation, so repeating them under correct conditions might be necessary. Stress or heavy lifting could temporarily affect digestion, but persistent symptoms likely point to another underlying issue. Consulting a gastroenterologist for further evaluation, including potential small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) or other digestive disorders, might be a good next step. Keep advocating for yourself—your concerns are valid!
    • Scott Adams
      Testing

      By Scott Adams · Posted

      Yes, there are blood tests for celiac disease, and feel free to share your son's results here if you have them.  This article might be helpful. It breaks down each type of test, and what a positive results means in terms of the probability that you might have celiac disease. One test that always needs to be done is the IgA Levels/Deficiency Test (often called "Total IGA") because some people are naturally IGA deficient, and if this is the case, then certain blood tests for celiac disease might be false-negative, and other types of tests need to be done to make an accurate diagnosis. The article includes the "Mayo Clinic Protocol," which is the best overall protocol for results to be ~98% accurate.    
×
×
  • Create New...