Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Help Please, New Poster


shakes

Recommended Posts

shakes Newbie

Thought some of you maybe could shed some light on my situation, I know you are not docs, but could maybe give me an ah ha from personal experience. I appreciate anything you can contribute.

About 7 years ago (28 yrs now), I started having reflux problems, went to the gastro, had an endoscopy which saw no damage only a little acid in the stomach, he did not biopsy for celiacs. Since I was a teenager, I've had bad itching problems, and they have worsened in the last couple of years. Also, the stomach problems have never really stopped----the reflux wasn't as bad since I started taking protonix (acid inhibitor) but still have diarrhea, cramping, etc, on a pretty regular basis.

My grandfather, who was wasting away from weight loss and constant diarrhea, and no one could solve his problem, went to a nutritionist who said he was a celiac. Put him on a gluten free diet and the change has been pretty remarkable. Not only did he gain weight (and apparently I've found out lately he had itching problems his whole life), his mind almost seemed to regenerate and he seems more alive today.

I did the blood tests for celiacs which came back negative. Along with the tests, the doc found that my thyroid was low and vitamin D was low. I started seeing the nutritionist about 2 months ago, and started an enormous amount of supplements and her recommendation was to go gluten free, even though the tests were negative. I've noticed a small change. My itching has not gone away, but has been more infrequent, and my stomach has been better, though not completely. I admit I'm still not sure if I'm completely eliminating gluten, and I'm in a job where I'm traveling a good bit and have cheated some.

What do you guys think, I'm still slightly skeptical since my blood tests came back negative, but the nutritionist certainly turned my g-pa around. Otherwise, I'm pretty healthy (other than a cigarette habit) I'm in good shape, have been an athlete since I was younger and still very active and very fit.

Also, does Ice cream affect you? I had some mickey d's ice cream the other night and have been in complete reversal since then. What about soft drinks?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



GFBetsy Rookie

Just wanted to drop a quick welcome and a little info . . .but I'll have to be quick 'cause I've been on too long and my children are starting to suffer from negelect!

The most sensitive of the celiac blood tests is 86% sesitive (according to my husband's lab magazines . . . he works in a hosptital lab). So it is not really all that unlikely that your tests could come back negative when you've really got celiac.

Secondly, cheating once in a while is likely to cause enough damage so that your symptoms won't go completely away.

If I were you, I'd give the gluten-free diet a really thorough effort - avoiding all malt flavoring (from barley) and wheat starch and everything. Find the names of restaurants that have gluten-free menus and patronize them while you are traveling. Take your own gluten-free cereal or stick with hard boiled eggs for breakfast while you are out of town. Keep it up for a couple of months and see how you are. Then go back on wheat (if you need more convincing) and see how you feel.

Good luck!

jerseyangel Proficient

Hi and welcome, Shakes! :D

Since you have already had the test, I would definately try and go 100% gluten-free. For this to work, you really need to cut all of the gluten out. Not only foods, but personal care products, vitamins and medicines. You need to watch out for cross contamination at home and when you eat away from home.

I realize that your test was negative, but you could still be gluten sensitive. Also, these tests are not perfect. That would explain your symptoms--I also had the itching. It got better on the gluten-free diet, but not right away. After almost a year and a half, it still bothers me sometimes.

The thing that really matters is--do you feel better on a gluten-free diet? If you do, then you have the answer for you. Is gluten the answer to everything? Of course not--but considering your family history and your response to less gluten, I think that at least a trial of gluten-free is reasonable.

Many Celiacs find that they can't tolerate dairy products until they have healed for a while. If you decide to go gluten-free, I'd suggest going dairy free, also for a few months. At that point, you may be able to re-introduce it.

Good luck with everything--feel free to let us know how we can help :)

Lisa Mentor

You have gotten some wonderful answers to you question and I agree 110%.

Go for the diet 100% for several months, see how you feel and you may have your answer.

Good luck to you.

lonewolf Collaborator

Welcome! I'll just chime in with an agreement on the good advice you've gotten - especially that dairy might be causing you trouble too.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      127,834
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Lucy20
    Newest Member
    Lucy20
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121k
    • Total Posts
      70.4k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Manaan2,  I'm so happy to hear you're going to try thiamine and magnesium!  Do let us know the results!   You may want to add a B 50 Complex with two meals of the day to help boost absorption.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins which are all water soluble.   When supplementing magnesium, make sure to get sufficient calcium.  Calcium and magnesium need to be kept in balance.  If you choose a calcium supplement, take two hours apart from magnesium as they compete for absorption.  Take Calcium with Vitamin D.  Vitamin D helps calm the immune system.   For pain, I use a combination of thiamine, B12 Cobalamine, and Pyridoxine B6.  These three vitamins together have analgesic effects.  My preferred brand is "GSG 12X Takeda ALINAMIN EX Plus Vitamin B1 B6 B12 Health Supplementary from Japan 120 Tablets".  Alinamin is another form of thiamine.  It really is excellent at relieving my back pain from crushed vertebrae without side effects and no grogginess.   Look into the low histamine version of the Autoimmune Protocol Duet (Dr. Sarah Ballentyne, a Celiac herself, developed it.)  It really helps heal the intestines, too.  It's like a vacation for the digestive system.  Add foods back gradually over several weeks after feeling better.   I'm so happy to have pointed the way on your journey!  Let us know how the journey progresses! P. S. Add a Potassium supplement, too.  Potassium is another electrolyte, like magnessium, that we need.
    • Manaan2
      @knitty kitty I can't thank you enough!  My husband and I already started looking into those supplements.  We definitely plan to give it a try.  We've been against the Miralax since it was originally advised by PCP, but because of the level of pain she experienced on a daily basis, we decided to try it.  We've made many attempts to gradually decrease but due to her pain and related symptoms, we've kept her on it while trying all sorts of other dietary adjustments pre and post diagnosis specific to food; so far none of those efforts have made a significant difference.  I will definitely share how she's doing along the way!
    • BIg Nodge
      Hi, I have recently embarked on the gluten-free journey. I have what to me seems like a somewhat confusing set of test results and symptoms. I have been impressed by the accumulated knowledge and thoughtfulness as I browse this forum, so I figured I'd make a post to see if anyone can offer any insight. I know there are many posts like this from new users, so I have tried to do my baseline research first and not ask super obvious questions.  I'm 43, overall very healthy. No history of gluten sensitivity or really any of the classic GI symptoms. About three years ago I started to experience intermittent bouts of fatigue, chills/cold intolerance, and shortness of breath/air hunger (sometimes feels like a hollowness in my chest, hard to describe). The symptoms over time have become fairly significant, though not debilitating, I am able to exercise regularly and am fairly physically active, continue to perform well at work. But for example I have gone from someone who consistently ran hot, was always cranking the a/c, to someone who wears a down vest inside at work in winter and get chills if the a/c even blows on me in summer. I get tired and lose energy even when getting decent amounts of sleep, and have to have my wife take over on long drives that I could previously handle with no problems. More generally when I am experiencing these symptoms they seem to crowd out space in my mind for focusing on my family, my hobbies/activities etc, I sort of withdraw into myself.   I happened to be experiencing these symptoms during an annual physical with my PCP a few years ago, he observed post nasal drip and suggested it was allergies and that I treat it with claritin. At first it seemed to respond to claritin (though not zyrtex), but over time I became unsatisfied with that answer. There didn't seem to be any seasonal rhyme or reason to my symptoms, and I felt like I was on an endless loop of taking claritin, then stopping, not being sure if it was even making a difference. I did eventually get allergy tests and found modest allergies to dust and pollen, which didn't feel like a smoking gun.  I then started seeing a natural medicine doctor who was much more willing to explore my symptoms via testing. The first thing that came back abnormal was elevated thyroid peroxidase antibodies/TPOs, 137 IU/mL vs a reference range of <9. At the same time my thyroid panel showed normal thyroid hormone levels. So it appears my immune system is attacking my thyroid even though it is working fine. I got a thyroid ultrasound at the time, it was clear, but with some abnormalities such that they suggested I get is scanned again in a year. These are certainly risk factors for a thyroid autoimmune disease, though my thyroid seems to be working fine for now.  From here my doctor considered celiac due to the murky thyroid/celiac links, so we did a panel. Results were as follows: TT IGA <1 U/ml, TT IGG <1 U/ml, deamidated gliadin IGA 24.6 U/ml, deamidated gliadin IGG <1 U/ml, IGAs 170 mg/dL. Readings greater than 15 considered high by my lab for the first four, my IGAs are within reference range. So basically just the deamidated IGA popped, but my IGAs are normal. I also notice on the tests that my thyroglobulin was high, 86.7 ng/ml vs a range of 2.8 - 40.9.  My doctor suggested that it certainly wasn't conclusive for celiac, but it was possible, and likely that I have some sort of gluten sensitivity. She suggested going gluten free and seeing how I felt as opposed to doing a biopsy. The best theory I can come up with is perhaps I am a silent celiac or just have a gluten sensitivity that doesn't produce immediate GI symptoms, but is still doing damage and over time has caused leaky gut. So now gluten is getting into my blood, and my immune system is attacking it but also mistakingly attacking my thyroid.  So that's what I did, went gluten free in October. It's been about four months, and I am really not feeling any difference. I still get the same symptoms that come and go. My bowel movements may be a bit more regular, but it was never a major issue before so I would consider that a minor improvement. I know that it can take a while to see improvements, and I am going to remain gluten-free and see how I feel. But I am definitely questioning whether I really understand what is going on, and am open to any thoughts or suggestions from the forum. Sometimes I wish I just went ahead with the biopsy before going gluten-free. While I would certainly be down to start drinking IPAs again ahead of a biopsy, you know, for science, I feel like at this point I would be throwing away four months of work and am better off staying the course and seeing what happens. But I'm really not sure.  I know there is a lot of thyroid knowledge on these boards, along with the celiac expertise, so I'm curious if this resonates with anyone's experience. And I'm interested in what sort of timelines people have experienced in terms of feeling improvements for some of these non-GI symptoms like chills, SOB, brain fog etc. Thanks in advance. 
    • cameo674
      Does it taste like black licorice?  It said it was chewable.  I do not like that flavor.     Since the burn at the back of my throat is there everyday, I usually only take something when it is unbearable and keeping me from ADL especially sleep.  
    • Scott Adams
      Your concerns about Nando's cross-contamination practices are valid and important for the celiac community. It's disappointing that Nando's does not have stricter protocols for children's portions, especially given the risk of cross-contact with gluten-containing items like garlic bread. Cooking gluten-free items on shared surfaces, even if cleaned, is not safe for individuals with celiac disease, as even trace amounts of gluten can cause harm. While the adult butterfly chicken may be a safer option, the inconsistency in practices for children's meals is concerning. It's frustrating that Nando's headquarters did not take responsibility, but sharing your experience raises awareness and may encourage them to improve their protocols. Consider reaching out to celiac advocacy organizations to amplify your concerns and push for better standards. Always double-check with staff and emphasize the importance of avoiding cross-contamination when dining out.
×
×
  • Create New...