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Cheating

Kaycee

By Kaycee
in Coping with Celiac Disease

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Kaycee Collaborator
Kaycee
Posted

Someone has come up with second hand gluten to replace the term cross contamination. I think it is a wonderful suggestion and has my vote.

Can anyone find an alternative to the world cheating? I hate that word, if we eat gluten we are not cheating on anyone, but ourselves.

Cathy

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Mountain Mama Rookie
Mountain Mama
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I don't know. The only thing I think of when I hear of a celiac intentionally cheating, is self destructive behavior. Or self sabatoging.

darlindeb25 Collaborator
darlindeb25
Posted

That's a tough one.

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
Posted

How about "falling off the wagon?"

nmw Newbie
nmw
Posted
Someone has come up with second hand gluten to replace the term cross contamination. I think it is a wonderful suggestion and has my vote.

Can anyone find an alternative to the world cheating?

Cathy

How about "masochism"?

Lisa Mentor
Lisa
Posted

Gluten Side Winder...it catches you on the side.

blueeyedmanda Community Regular
blueeyedmanda
Posted

This is a tough call.

Cheating just seems so natural since people cheat on other diets, so I guess that is why we use the word cheat with gluten.

Hmm...I like the Side Winder...:)

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JNBunnie1 Community Regular
JNBunnie1
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Suicide 'bombing'?

luckygfme Rookie
luckygfme
Posted
Suicide 'bombing'?

LOL :lol:

i like that

gfp Enthusiast
gfp
Posted
Someone has come up with second hand gluten to replace the term cross contamination. I think it is a wonderful suggestion and has my vote.

Making it sound nicer really isn't going to help at all.

Last night on the way back from the station some guy tried to get onto the metro for free by pushing up on some girl going through the turnstyle....

She got all upset (well when his **** is touching her ass I'm not that surprised) ... but apart from that do you want someone who is self evidently a thief to be in close proximity and touching you?

The girl told him to back off and he wouldn't... he insisted he let her through with him... and she argued that she didn't want a thief that close... and the guy gets all angry at being called a thief????

Im not a thief he's shouting, I just don't have a ticket...

You can call it faredogding or we could make up a nice friendly term.... at the end of the day they guy is a thief and should be treated like one.

Anyway the point is Parisians are so used to fare dodging they don't even blink.... even the police just ignore it (there were actually 6 of them watched the whole incident without even moving) and its estimated at any given time 1/3 of the people on the metro are there illegally.

{actually this is OT but .. this is the great part... faredodging is actually encouraged for repeat offenders - the first time you get caught it costs 80 Euro's... 40 to open a "file" and 40 for the fine.... subsequent times they only pay 40??}

So instead of cheating you can say gluten vacation.... obviously its less harmful than cheating because it sounds nicer?

We can go a step further and encourage gluten vacations as well.. we could call the gluten-free diet something that sounds nasty like the flavorless diet or diet for people with no life. And we can go into resto's and look for the menu items marked "suitable for people with no life"

darlindeb25 Collaborator
darlindeb25
Posted

As I think about this, cheating is the best word for cheating. I have never thought it good to put a pretty face on something bad. If you want to cheat yourself of life, that is your decision.

gfp Enthusiast
gfp
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As I think about this, cheating is the best word for cheating. I have never thought it good to put a pretty face on something bad. If you want to cheat yourself of life, that is your decision.

I agree completely....

And in the end the worst type of cheating IMHO is that against yourself....

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular
Fiddle-Faddle
Posted
As I think about this, cheating is the best word for cheating. I have never thought it good to put a pretty face on something bad. If you want to cheat yourself of life, that is your decision.

Yep. Cheating is cheating, no matter how you want to paint it.

Or how about "self-poisoning?"

Jestgar Rising Star
Jestgar
Posted

avenom

An obsolete term meaning: to poison.

I googled "latin poison" trying to come up with a word akin to suicide (which is latin for self killing)

suivenomate seems cumbersome, but avenomate works for me.

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular
Fiddle-Faddle
Posted

Ooh, it sounds like a spell you'd learn at Hogwarts!!!! (or maybe Durmstrang...)

Jestgar Rising Star
Jestgar
Posted
Ooh, it sounds like a spell you'd learn at Hogwarts!!!! (or maybe Durmstrang...)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tim-n-VA Contributor
Tim-n-VA
Posted

To me, cheating is the appropriate word when you are breaking a rule/agreement. To the extent your decision only impacts you (conveniently ignoring the impact on friends and relatives), you can't cheat on yourself. You make decisions. You make choices. You live with the results.

Frequently co-workers make friendly comments about what I "can't" eat. My response is usually "I shouldn't eat it, I choose to anyway". To date that has always been related to diabetes not gluten.

Nantzie Collaborator
Nantzie
Posted

I vote for "falling off the wagon".

Kaycee Collaborator
Kaycee
Posted
  • Author

Thanks for the thoughts.

I've been thinking quite a bit about this. I don't consider myself a cheat, even though I've done it once while being gluten free. I can never bring myself to cheat in anything in life. Yes I suppose I just wanted a pretty word for it, and didn't want to be considered a cheat, or else I was relating the term to trying to lose weight, where cheating was more or less encouraged and accepted by those who wanted to sabotage my diet. Cheating wasn't really a strong word then, a little bit like falling off the wagon, and knowing you will pick yourself up again and get back on track again, knowing that one day it will happen again. So many excuses. But with gluten free eating, you cannot afford to have that mind set, or have a ton of excuses, even with dieting that mind set is self destructive

Now I am thinking in that respect cheating is not really a hard enough word to describe deliberately eating gluten. I know when I first became aware of being gluten intolerant, I did think along the lines that I had been slowly committing suicide by eating gluten all those years.

Avenom sounds good, and I like what it represents, but I don't know if that would be the word I would choose.

Glutecide

Cathy

2kids4me Contributor
2kids4me
Posted

I found this when i located an article that addressed the use of the term "cheating" in relation to a diet.

I thought it was good.

I took bits and pieces, but if you want to read the entire article, then go to the link.

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When we feel we are cheating, we often punish ourselves; we make ourselves feel guilty, frustrated and defeated. Replacing the negative concept of "cheating" with the idea of "straying from healthy habits" takes away the all-or-nothing emphasis on right and wrong. If you treat every deviation from your plan as a failure, you won't get very far.

Substituting the idea of a brief straying away from your plan instead of feeling guilty, and learning to return more and more quickly to healthier habits, is more realistic. It's also easier and more enjoyable

If you're having a special diet meal that's different from what the rest of your family or friends are eating, you'll feel as though you're being punished. In order to be successful in changing your eating habits, you must look forward to and enjoy each meal you eat. This doesn't mean that you have to learn to like rice cakes and celery. It means you must learn how to make simple changes in the foods you love.

Many people also enjoy eating out but associate this with being "bad" or eating "illegal" foods. Fortunately, it is very possible to eat a healthy, low-fat meal in a restaurant. You don't need to forego your favorite foods or eat before you go out with friends or family. The same decision-making process occurs whether you eat at home or go out to a restaurant. Many people think that they have two options when eating: eating for taste and pleasure or eating for health. As you learn and practice healthy eating techniques, these two options will become one and the same.

It was about fattening foods and exercise, but I think the information could be applied to gluten free living as well.

sandy

darlindeb25 Collaborator
darlindeb25
Posted

Substituting the idea of a brief straying away from your plan instead of feeling guilty, and learning to return more and more quickly to healthier habits, is more realistic. It's also easier and more enjoyableThis is completely different from eating gluten. Cheating on a diet can not harm you, eating gluten when you are gluten intolerant is not the same thing.

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