Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Casein Vs. Lactose?


GeoffCJ

Recommended Posts

GeoffCJ Enthusiast

"So, if he can eat cheese without any reaction, he is most likely lactose intolerant. But, if he has a reaction to cheese than he may be casein intolerant."

What's the easiest way to tell reliably which I'm reacting too?

Thanks,

Geoff


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



CarlaB Enthusiast

The easiest way would be to avoid dairy for a time, then drink milk and take a lactaid. If it still bothers you, it was the casein.

SunnyDyRain Enthusiast

I've heard that it sometimes takes a large dose of lactaid to help lactose intolerant people.

Is there blood work or something they can test for?

How come dairy is just starting to bother me now, 3 weeks after going gluten free?

missy'smom Collaborator

Been wondering about this for the longest time. So, for those who are casein intolerant, what happens if you drink Lactaid milk?

dlp252 Apprentice
Been wondering about this for the longest time. So, for those who are casein intolerant, what happens if you drink Lactaid milk?

Terrible sinus congestion leading to sinus infection develops over a few days to a week. :(

Sometimes gas, bloating, diarrhea or any one or a combination of those, happens within a few hours of ingesting.

CarlaB Enthusiast
Been wondering about this for the longest time. So, for those who are casein intolerant, what happens if you drink Lactaid milk?

It makes no difference that it has lactaid since it's the casein that bothers them.

Sunny, the dairy may have been bothering you all along but you only started noticing it as you started feeling a bit better. That would be my guess.

Enterolab tests for casein sensitivity. I tested positive, went off casein for six months and noticed no difference at all. I added it back and had no problems. I don't think any test is accurate all the time.

missy'smom Collaborator

My problem must be lactose then because in the past there was a big difference in my reaction to Lactaid vs. regular milk. On a day when my system is running smoothly, I should try a test again and drink a glass of Lactaid milk and see how I feel, now that I'm gluten-free (never drink it straight up). My mother was told when I was an infant that I had a milk allergy so she just didn't give it to me in a glass :huh: I got it in every other form!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



SunnyDyRain Enthusiast
Sunny, the dairy may have been bothering you all along but you only started noticing it as you started feeling a bit better. That would be my guess.

I could see that if I didn't have 2 weeks of good BM's , and feeling good before the dairy started to effect me.

To me it seems once my body got used to not eat gluten, it said "OH CRAP, she's feeling good....now how are we going to screw with her?!"

ArtGirl Enthusiast
Enterolab tests for casein sensitivity. I tested positive, went off casein for six months and noticed no difference at all. I added it back and had no problems. I don't think any test is accurate all the time.

It may have been a false positive, but this I think is very rare. I tested positive to Casein through Enterolab, but also through other labs as well. They were dead-on.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      39

      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

    2. - trents replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      39

      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

    3. - Scott Adams replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      39

      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

    4. - knitty kitty replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      10

      My only proof

    5. - NanceK replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      10

      My only proof


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,362
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    DPC
    Newest Member
    DPC
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      Segments of the protein Casein are the same as segments of the protein strands of gluten, the 33-mer segment.   The cow's body builds that Casein protein.  It doesn't come from wheat.   Casein can trigger the same reaction as being exposed to gluten in some people.   This is not a dairy allergy (IGE mediated response).  It is not lactose intolerance.  
    • trents
      Wheatwacked, what exactly did you intend when you stated that wheat is incorporated into the milk of cows fed wheat? Obviously, the gluten would be broken down by digestion and is too large a molecule anyway to cross the intestinal membrane and get into the bloodstream of the cow. What is it from the wheat that you are saying becomes incorporated into the milk protein?
    • Scott Adams
      Wheat in cow feed would not equal gluten in the milk, @Wheatwacked, please back up extraordinary claims like this with some scientific backing, as I've never heard that cow's milk could contain gluten due to what the cow eats.
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @NanceK, I'm glad you're willing to give Benfotiamine with B Complex another go!  I'm certain you'll feel much better.   Yes, supplementation is a good idea even if you're healing and gluten free.  The gluten free diet can be low in B vitamins and other nutrients. A nutritionist can help guide you to a nutrient dense diet, but food sensitivities and food preferences can limit choices.  I can't consume fish and shellfish due to the sulfa hypersensitivity and iodine content, and dairy is out as well.  I react to casein, the protein in dairy, as well as the iodine in dairy.  My Dermatitis Herpetiformis is aggravated by iodine.   Blood tests for B vitamin levels are notoriously inaccurate.  You can have deficiency symptoms before blood levels change to show a deficiency.  I had subclinical vitamin deficiencies for years which affected my health, leading to a slow downward spiral.  Because the B vitamins are water soluble, they are easily excreted in urine if not needed.  It's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.   Wheat and other gluten containing grain products have vitamins and minerals added to them to replace those nutrients lost in processing.  Manufacturers add cheap vitamins that our bodies don't absorb or utilize well.  Even normal people can suffer from vitamin deficiencies.  The rise in obesity can be caused by High Calorie Malnutrition, where people eat more carbohydrate calories but don't get sufficient thiamine and B vitamins to turn the calories into energy.  The calories are stored as fat in an effort to ration out diminishing thiamine  stores.    It's time to buy your own vitamins in forms like Benfotiamine that our bodies can use well.   Not sleeping well and fatigue are symptoms of Thiamine deficiency.   I'm certain Benfotiamine with a B Complex will help you immensely.  Just don't take them at night since B vitamins provide lots of energy, you can become too energetic to sleep.  Better to take them earlier in your day.   Do keep me posted on your progress!
    • NanceK
      Oh wow! Thanks for this information! I’m going to try the Benfotiamine again and will also add a B-complex to my supplements. Presently, I just take sublingual B12 (methylcobalomin). Is supplementation for celiacs always necessary even though you remain gluten-free and you’re healing as shown on endoscopy? I also take D3, mag glycinate, and try to get calcium through diet. I am trying to bump up my energy level because I don’t sleep very well and feel fatigued quite often. I’m now hopeful that adding the Benfotiamine and B-complex will help. I really appreciate your explanation and advice! Thanks again Knitty Kitty!
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.