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I saw the dr. on wednesday, and she ran some tests. I'm trying to figure out why after going gluten-free I am still not 100% better....many of the more serious and difficult symptoms went away, but I still have D on a regular basis. Anyway, she wanted to see if I have bacterial overgrowth somewhere in my digestive system, which I think is a good possibility. But she ran the test as a stool test (along with one for paracites and the like). I thought the test was a breath test? Does anyone know if you can test that with a stool test? Thanks!


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I saw the dr. on wednesday, and she ran some tests. I'm trying to figure out why after going gluten-free I am still not 100% better....many of the more serious and difficult symptoms went away, but I still have D on a regular basis. Anyway, she wanted to see if I have bacterial overgrowth somewhere in my digestive system, which I think is a good possibility. But she ran the test as a stool test (along with one for paracites and the like). I thought the test was a breath test? Does anyone know if you can test that with a stool test? Thanks!

My naturopathic doc uses a comprehensive stool test for bacteria, fungus (like Candida Albicans) and parasites. My test results showed I had a Klebsiella (bad bacteria) overgrowth and no bifidobacteria (good bacteria). So I took capryllic acid for awhile and then probiotics (good bacteria) to improve the balance of good to bad bacteria in my gut. Here's a link to the page on his website which explains the benefits of that stool test for bacteria: Open Original Shared Link

I've never heard of using a breath test for bacteria. How would that show the presence of intestinal bacteria?

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I saw the dr. on wednesday, and she ran some tests. I'm trying to figure out why after going gluten-free I am still not 100% better....many of the more serious and difficult symptoms went away, but I still have D on a regular basis. Anyway, she wanted to see if I have bacterial overgrowth somewhere in my digestive system, which I think is a good possibility. But she ran the test as a stool test (along with one for paracites and the like). I thought the test was a breath test? Does anyone know if you can test that with a stool test? Thanks!

One of my daughter's had a comprehensive stool analysis done by Doctors Data (I think) that looked for bacterial overgrowth, but I think you are right that a breath test is often done~

and 10 patients showed small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) by lactulose H2-BT.[/b]

High prevalence of small intestinal bacterial overgrowth in celiac patients with persistence of gastrointestinal symptoms after gluten withdrawal.

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Good thing to be looking for... though. You might find some other things to consider listed here:

Open Original Shared Link

While my daughter's diarrhea dropped in frequency from 6-8 times a day to 1-2 times a day within weeks, it was over six months before we saw a formed stool of any sort. I've heard others say it took them a year to feel well. But, so many other things can co-exist... it is good to be looking for those things!

Hope you find some answers soon~

Cara

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Thanks, guys...I am still waiting for results on all the tests (am nervous about some of them). I will look at the link you posted and see if anything matches up with what's going on. It's been about 2 years gluten-free, so at this point I"m pretty sure it's not the gluten that's getting to me. I can sure tell if I've been glutened, but I'm still not normal after all this time! I went from having D 5 or more times a day and feeling awful and tired etc. to only having it maybe 1 time a day, but still...I just want things to be normal!

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