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Welts Or Mosquito Bites


Kujda

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Just wondering about the welts on my sons back. They showed up this weekend and now they are scabbed over. When they showed up they had a small white dot in the middle and he said they hurt. When we saw the dr he said he was certain they were bites and my son scratched them and made the scabs. Today at home because it was raining 2 more showed up. No mosquito. Plus he doesn't have bites anywhere else. When he had mosquitoe bites last year they were on his toes or arms. Now none but on his back.

Has anyone seen this and is it related to celiac/gluten? The doctor thinks i am nuts and being a little silly about this whole thing. Also gets big scratch marks on his bottom when he eats gluten and has a horrible poop. Doc said it was from my son scratching so hard. Can anyone relate?

Kristin


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Just wondering about the welts on my sons back. They showed up this weekend and now they are scabbed over. When they showed up they had a small white dot in the middle and he said they hurt. When we saw the dr he said he was certain they were bites and my son scratched them and made the scabs. Today at home because it was raining 2 more showed up. No mosquito. Plus he doesn't have bites anywhere else. When he had mosquitoe bites last year they were on his toes or arms. Now none but on his back.

Has anyone seen this and is it related to celiac/gluten? The doctor thinks i am nuts and being a little silly about this whole thing. Also gets big scratch marks on his bottom when he eats gluten and has a horrible poop. Doc said it was from my son scratching so hard. Can anyone relate?

Kristin

My daughter got huge welty, weepy patches of eczema that scabbed over without her even touching them. It was clear her reaction was to the amount of pollen in the air (on skin that was exposed during the hot day.) I don't know if it is celiac related, but suspect that diet plays at least a partial role in her tendency towards eczema. We do know that she is allergic to tree pollens and dander too. Incidentally, she also had little bumps crop up on her thighs, elbows and bottom that were more like pimples/pustules...could be DH, but don't know for sure, because we couldn't get in to see the dermatologist in a timely fashion. <_<

I took pics of the eczema and bumps to bring for our July appt. However, if he were to see her skin a couple of days after the initial flare up, he would have trouble determining exactly what had happened to her skin. Unfortunately, once the skin is broken and scabs over it's often difficult to get a diagnosis based on appearance.

Michelle

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Hi!

My daughter had the same sort of thing but on her abdomen mostly. Before she was diagnosed with celiac this was one of her only symptoms early on. I took her to the pediatrician who said (in the middle of winter) that she must have FLEAS!! Even my dog doesn't have fleas, so why would my then 5 year old? Ughh.

Now she has been gluten free for over a year and the only time that we see that type of welt is when she has been accidently (and minorly) glutened. They usually show up on her face in the area of her nose. It is usually just one or two bumps/welts. They start out looking like a bite and then they tend to burst and scab over. She says they do itch but I think the scabbing happens on its own and not from scratching. These usually take about a week to clear up entirely. Then as long as she is completely gluten-free we don't see it again until the next glutening. Weird but definitely gluten related as it happens like clock work!

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Hi!

My daughter had the same sort of thing but on her abdomen mostly. Before she was diagnosed with celiac this was one of her only symptoms early on. I took her to the pediatrician who said (in the middle of winter) that she must have FLEAS!! Even my dog doesn't have fleas, so why would my then 5 year old? Ughh.

Now she has been gluten free for over a year and the only time that we see that type of welt is when she has been accidently (and minorly) glutened. They usually show up on her face in the area of her nose. It is usually just one or two bumps/welts. They start out looking like a bite and then they tend to burst and scab over. She says they do itch but I think the scabbing happens on its own and not from scratching. These usually take about a week to clear up entirely. Then as long as she is completely gluten-free we don't see it again until the next glutening. Weird but definitely gluten related as it happens like clock work!

B.

Sounds just like my son. The doc gave me all kinds of meds to "clear up the bites" and they cleared up on their own within the week. I don't know how my son gets to the middle of his back and scratches them till they scab. We weren't even outside the day they appeared. Nice to have folks who know a little more than the doctors=)

Cam's Mom Contributor
Nice to have folks who know a little more than the doctors=)

My 7 year old knows more than the doctors!!! And that's not saying much, I think my dog probably does too ;)

Esther Sparhawk Contributor
My 7 year old knows more than the doctors!!! And that's not saying much, I think my dog probably does too ;)

LOL! Cam's mom, you're hilarious!

Kristin, don't forget that June is a common month for chicken pocks. It's tough, when your kid's a celiac, to distinguish between gluten reactions and common childhood diseases. Best of luck to you.

Both of my kids get welts from mosquito bites. They swell up like bee stings. One of my kids is a celiac and the other one isn't, but they both get the same reaction to mosquitoes.

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