Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Cross Contamination


jstoy

Recommended Posts

jstoy Newbie

My daughter is 32, I live with her, I am her mother. She has Celiac and I do not. She was doing very well with her gluten free diet and feeling great. All of a sudden we have 2 new people in the house that do not understand Celiac and apparently are unconcerned. Today my daughter was extremely sick. Now I have seen one of the roommates touching bread and touching my daughters shelf we have seperated in the frig. We have our own shelves, etc. Ever since these two have moved in my daughter has been sick, mostly mild cases but today was tragic. She was crying, I am not into researching page after page to find out how to help her, I am the get the ole pepto bismo mother but she can't. I gave her a banana and some applesauce because I read it somewhere. We both do research all the time. She is researching and her eyes are closing. I feel so bad for her.

Today I seperated some cooking utencils , silverware, dish's, etc. Tomorrow I am buying her bowls, and anything she needs only for her gluten free use. We can't control others in the house. I say ship em out and this is going to happen very soon but until then, we need some help.

AFter all that, any suggestions? We try to seperate but others get into things. I'm getting very upset here watching my daughter feel like she's dying. I am not a stressful person but lately I am getting stressed to the point I think I will be sick.

I can't keep searching pages that lead to other pages, I need to ask a question and get the answer I need, does anyone know a place that will actually help us. Reading forums is not working, I do not have the time for this. She is newly diag Celiac and she needs someone to help her. Please is there anyone that is experienced enough to help or direct us to a place she can simply go to or a phone number to call and talk to someone that actually knows what she needs? Please I am at my ends here. We need help. She is so sick and I am getting so upset.

Merry Christmas and thank you for your help in advance

Dear Santa,

Please bring us an angel to guide my daughter thru Celiac and help her get back to normal.

Thank you

Caring Mother


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Lisa Mentor

Where are you located. There might be a suppot group in your area.

You won't find a better site for information about Celiac then here. Please take some time to read some posts. It has been a lifesaver for me when no one around me knew anything about what they said I had.

jstoy Newbie

Hi Thank you for responding so quickly. We are in Manchester, New Hampshire. We have read so many forums and it give us help in advance on some things. Right now she is crying and curled up in a ball and it upsets me. I do not know what to do. We get thru most everything. We have the gluten free shopping down to a science, we do the best in the house but at times like this we need help. Have you ever been glutened and wanna curl up and die? This is how she is feeling. She used a heating pad earlier. She is in so much pain now she won't listen to me or do anything but lay there and cry and she said all she can do is wait it out. I can't believe that is true. I can't relax watching her. I wanna take her to the hospital but they will take forever, we can't afford it and I am sure nothing will be done to help.

Thank you for reading.

Where are you located. There might be a suppot group in your area.

You won't find a better site for information about Celiac then here. Please take some time to read some posts. It has been a lifesaver for me when no one around me knew anything about what they said I had.

kbtoyssni Contributor

Unfortunately, there probably isn't a lot you can do now that she's glutened. Most of us just have to ride it out, and I think everyone has some comfort foods or techniques to make them feel better. Mine is sleeping a lot. And eating way too much cheese and milk. I'm not sure a hospital could do much, either, unless she's getting dehydrated.

You really need to take steps to make sure this doesn't happen again. It seems like she was doing just fine when it was just you living there. I'm a little unclear about where the roommates come from, but you need to get them to follow the house rules about gluten. If they can't stop contaminating things, you could say the whole house has to be gluten-free or not let them stay there anymore. You daughter's health has to be #1.

Lisa Mentor

Open Original Shared Link

Here is some contact information in your area.

Many times once the reaction begins you just have to ride it out. The BRAT diet can be soothing - Bananas, Rice, Apple Sauce and Tea/Toast. Plently of water might help the system flush itself. All this is assuming that her discomfort is caused by gluten or cross contamination. I never had the stomach pains but there are many many here that do.

I hope that she will feel better soon.

jstoy Newbie

Thank you for your response and I am sorry you also have this horrible Celiac. She has been sick for over 7 years and just recently found it was Celiac. The roomates are her sister and her sisters boyfriend that had no place to live. They are careless but I am sure it's not on purpose. When my daughter is feeling better, she will need to do as you suggest and have a talk about complete gluten free foods in this house. I say not staying here is the best option. We have talked about just her and me in the house. It is abit expensive but I think we will be ok and she will feel better. I am building a website on Celiac and all gluten free recipes and I have learned alot. I'm kind of lazy in the cooking department but once I buy some of those flours they talk about we can eat quite well. I'm impressed with the foods you can eat.

Merry Christmas and thank you so much.

Unfortunately, there probably isn't a lot you can do now that she's glutened. Most of us just have to ride it out, and I think everyone has some comfort foods or techniques to make them feel better. Mine is sleeping a lot. And eating way too much cheese and milk. I'm not sure a hospital could do much, either, unless she's getting dehydrated.

You really need to take steps to make sure this doesn't happen again. It seems like she was doing just fine when it was just you living there. I'm a little unclear about where the roommates come from, but you need to get them to follow the house rules about gluten. If they can't stop contaminating things, you could say the whole house has to be gluten-free or not let them stay there anymore. You daughter's health has to be #1.

jstoy Newbie

Thank you so much. After you mentioned it I went and located a support group in Nashua close by. I think I need it more than she does lol. You are so young to have this and I am sorry you do. You are very lucky not to have the pains, I hope you never do.

It was the BRAT diet I found, she had a banana and some apple sauce. We didn't get to the rice and tea part. She hates tea, I say too bad drink it :-)..She is stubborn..I think when your as sick as she can get she doesn't want to do anything, just curl up. I suppose I can force feed her banana's and dump some apple sauce over her head in hopes she get some in her mouth LOL..we have to joke about it at times.

Thanks for your help.

Merry Christmas

Open Original Shared Link

Here is some contact information in your area.

Many times once the reaction begins you just have to ride it out. The BRAT diet can be soothing - Bananas, Rice, Apple Sauce and Tea/Toast. Plently of water might help the system flush itself. All this is assuming that her discomfort is caused by gluten or cross contamination. I never had the stomach pains but there are many many here that do.

I hope that she will feel better soon.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



blueeyedmanda Community Regular

It is horrible that she has been controlling her diet so well and now the new people in the house are not concerned at all. Is there a way you can talk to them and educate them about CC and your daughters health. It might helps things until they move out.

jstoy Newbie

Hi

We have told them over and over what it means. They actually went out and bought ingredients for gluten free stir fry once. Then all of a sudden they were making pasta in the microwave and adding it to sauce in the same electric pan she uses for her gluten free foods. How many times have I said what are you doing? It is not registering or one of them just doesn't care.

I won't bore you with the details but because this could get lengthy but soon we will be having a house meeting on gluten free or packing it in and have a nice life somewhere else talk :D

Have a safe and gluten free holiday

It is horrible that she has been controlling her diet so well and now the new people in the house are not concerned at all. Is there a way you can talk to them and educate them about CC and your daughters health. It might helps things until they move out.
WW340 Rookie

If it is your house, I would simply make it totally gluten free, period.

I am the only one with celiac disease, yet my house is gluten free except for one loaf of bread that my husband is very careful with and his cereal. My son and husband can eat gluten outside of our home, but at home all cooking is gluten free. My son is not careful enough with gluten food, so he simply is not allowed to have it here.

Cross contamination is a difficult enough issue without someone in your own home sabotaging you.

This is a matter of health, not personal preference. If my husband wasn't as careful as he is with his bread and cereal, that would be gone too. It is no small matter to be sick from a glutening as you are currently witnessing. I am sick for up to 3 weeks from 1 cross contamination.

My husband and son have adapted very well and think that our food is even better than before I was diagnosed. My son's favorite food is Amy's gluten free enchiladas. He likes them better than any other brand.

We don't use a lot of prepackaged foods, so the expense is no more than regular food, because it is regular food.

I hope your daughter gets over her glutening soon.

pixiegirl Enthusiast

Boy do I agree with the above poster. Its your house, I'm assuming your doing them a favor by letting them move in... I'd tell them the house is gluten free - period the end. When they want gluten they can go to the grocery store and eat the junk in their car. Or go to a restaurant and have it.

This disease could permanently effect your daughters health, the fact that your other daughter and her boy friend "try" isn't enough. I'd say ok we tried it, its not working and now the house is gluten-free. Done. If they can't abide by the rules of the house, find another house.

Susan

jstoy Newbie

You are all so kind to help. I sent your reply's to my daughter. Today would be a great day to say no more gluten in this house period!! I agree. We talked to one of them today, I believe she understands now my daughters health overrides a roof over her head when in fact she has another place to live if necessary. The other will be dealt with when he wakes up. This is frustrating for them also, daily saying this and that and all the notes left around. I had a conversation with my daughter today saying this has to stop, I can't handle this, you are too nice and it's killing you. So mother has to be the meanie today. Gluten Free or Move out, that's it. Thanks for all your advice. I was headed in that direction, just wanted to make sure I wasn't being too mean to people around us. Actually, after what I witnessed last night they are lucky to be in the house at all.

Hope everyone has a Safe, Gluten Free Merry Christmas ;)

pixiegirl Enthusiast

i know its hard to do but mom's often have to be meanies, comes with the territory! Again this is about good health so its so important.

Good luck!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Jordan Carlson's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      1

      Fruits & Veggies

    3. - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

    4. - trents replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,018
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Nancy Adams
    Newest Member
    Nancy Adams
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      In the study linked above, the little girl switched to a gluten free diet and gained enough weight that that fat pad was replenished and surgery was not needed.   Here's the full article link... Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6476019/
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jordan Carlson, So glad you're feeling better.   Tecta is a proton pump inhibitor.  PPI's also interfere with the production of the intrinsic factor needed to absorb Vitamin B12.  Increasing the amount of B12 you supplement has helped overcome the lack of intrinsic factor needed to absorb B12. Proton pump inhibitors also reduce the production of digestive juices (stomach acids).  This results in foods not being digested thoroughly.  If foods are not digested sufficiently, the vitamins and other nutrients aren't released from the food, and the body cannot absorb them.  This sets up a vicious cycle. Acid reflux and Gerd are actually symptoms of producing too little stomach acid.  Insufficient stomach acid production is seen with Thiamine and Niacin deficiencies.  PPI's like Tecta also block the transporters that pull Thiamine into cells, preventing absorption of thiamine.  Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are difficulty swallowing, gagging, problems with food texture, dysphagia. Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are symptoms of ADHD and anxiety.  Vyvanse also blocks thiamine transporters contributing further to Thiamine deficiency.  Pristiq has been shown to work better if thiamine is supplemented at the same time because thiamine is needed to make serotonin.  Doctors don't recognize anxiety and depression and adult onset ADHD as early symptoms of Thiamine deficiency. Stomach acid is needed to digest Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) in fruits and vegetables.  Ascorbic acid left undigested can cause intestinal upsets, anxiety, and heart palpitations.   Yes, a child can be born with nutritional deficiencies if the parents were deficient.  Parents who are thiamine deficient have offspring with fewer thiamine transporters on cell surfaces, making thiamine deficiency easier to develop in the children.  A person can struggle along for years with subclinical vitamin deficiencies.  Been here, done this.  Please consider supplementing with Thiamine in the form TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) which helps immensely with dysphagia and neurological symptoms like anxiety, depression, and ADHD symptoms.  Benfotiamine helps with improving intestinal health.  A B Complex and NeuroMag (a magnesium supplement), and Vitamin D are needed also.
    • knitty kitty
      @pothosqueen, Welcome to the tribe! You'll want to get checked for nutritional deficiencies and start on supplementation of B vitamins, especially Thiamine Vitamin B 1.   There's some scientific evidence that the fat pad that buffers the aorta which disappears in SMA is caused by deficiency in Thiamine.   In Thiamine deficiency, the body burns its stored fat as a source of fuel.  That fat pad between the aorta and digestive system gets used as fuel, too. Ask for an Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test to look for thiamine deficiency.  Correction of thiamine deficiency can help restore that fat pad.   Best wishes for your recovery!   Interesting Reading: Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31089433/#:~:text=Affiliations,tissue and results in SMAS.  
    • trents
      Wow! You're pretty young to have a diagnosis of SMA syndrome. But youth also has its advantages when it comes to healing, without a doubt. You might be surprised to find out how your health improves and how much better you feel once you eliminate gluten from your diet. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that, when gluten is consumed, triggers an attack on the villous lining of the small bowel. This is the section of the intestines where all our nutrition is absorbed. It is made up of billions of tiny finger-like projections that create a tremendous surface area for absorbing nutrients. For the person with celiac disease, unchecked gluten consumption generates inflammation that wears down these fingers and, over time, greatly reduces the nutrient absorbing efficiency of the small bowel lining. This can generate a whole host of other nutrient deficiency related medical problems. We also now know that the autoimmune reaction to gluten is not necessarily limited to the lining of the small bowel such that celiac disease can damage other body systems and organs such as the liver and the joints and cause neurological problems.  It can take around two years for the villous lining to completely heal but most people start feeling better well before then. It's also important to realize that celiac disease can cause intolerance to some other foods whose protein structures are similar to gluten. Chief among them are dairy and oats but also eggs, corn and soy. Just keep that in mind.
    • pothosqueen
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.