Candida Diet

[moldlady]

Hi Paula,

I agree with April that the more toxic we are the longer and more often we need to detox. There was a time when I was doing the detox bath twice a day. I have found that if you can't take the heat very hot or for very long it is a symptom of heavy metals.... mainly mercury that gives one heat intolerance. Over time, you will be able to tolerate it more.

I take some nice music in with me or an audio book to make the time go faster.

ML

[psipsina]

I had a bad day yesterday. I tried cooking with coconut oil which is naturally antifungal and had a really really bad reaction. It felt alot like an allergic reaction but it might have just been really really bad die off. I was miserable and nauseous though and with the die off I've just been achy all over. I'm going to try it again in a few days and see if it is any less intense (which theoretically it should be because the candida should be a bit less from the other meds right???). I picked up a new calcium supplement with dandelion root in it and some pau d'arco tea today. Does anyone know how much of the tea I'm supposed to drink in a day?? I am doing really well with the diet so at least I'm proud of myself for that.

[moldlady]

psipsina,

I also got a lot of die off reactions the first time I used coconut oil. Go easy. It is a strong antifungal and if you have any fungus in your digestive system it will kill it off big time.

Sorry but know that it did do some good. Give yourself time to recover and then try again with maybe half as much.

THe first time I ever tried the coconut oil, all I did was lick the spoon that had some oil on it and I got the reaction. That wasn't much at all. Now, I can tolerate any amount with no reaction at all.

I put a warning on here somewhere but maybe it got buried....

You killed off a bunch of fungus that was making you sick so that is a good thing.

ML

[Green12]

Ginger is naturally anti-nausea. I keep ginger root to cook with or to make tea with. I have a tea ball I use but you can just strain out the chunks with a spoon if you don't have one when its done brewing. It works on the same principal as ginger ale but without all the sugar to feed the natsies in your GI tract. I hope you feel better soon!

Ginger root is also an excellent digestive, it stimulates digestion so I try to drink it before meals.

I just take fresh ginger root, cut off a one inch chunk or so and peel it, drop it into a mug and pour hot water over it, then let it steep for about 5 minutes.

It's strong, spicy and has a bite but I like it!

[psipsina]

psipsina,

I also got a lot of die off reactions the first time I used coconut oil. Go easy. It is a strong antifungal and if you have any fungus in your digestive system it will kill it off big time.

Sorry but know that it did do some good. Give yourself time to recover and then try again with maybe half as much.

THe first time I ever tried the coconut oil, all I did was lick the spoon that had some oil on it and I got the reaction. That wasn't much at all. Now, I can tolerate any amount with no reaction at all.

I put a warning on here somewhere but maybe it got buried....

You killed off a bunch of fungus that was making you sick so that is a good thing.

ML

OMG I think I used WAAAYYY too much for my first day! For breakfast I had a think thin bar with some coconut in it . . . then I put a teaspoon full in my tomato soup for lunch and then I used about a tablespoon to cook a shrimp and veggie stir fry that I used coconut milk in the sauce!!!! No wonder I was curled up in a ball wanting to pull off my own skin and puke all at the same time!

[psipsina]

psipsina,

I also got a lot of die off reactions the first time I used coconut oil. Go easy. It is a strong antifungal and if you have any fungus in your digestive system it will kill it off big time.

Sorry but know that it did do some good. Give yourself time to recover and then try again with maybe half as much.

THe first time I ever tried the coconut oil, all I did was lick the spoon that had some oil on it and I got the reaction. That wasn't much at all. Now, I can tolerate any amount with no reaction at all.

I put a warning on here somewhere but maybe it got buried....

You killed off a bunch of fungus that was making you sick so that is a good thing.

ML

OMG I think I used WAAAYYY too much for my first day! For breakfast I had a think thin bar with some coconut in it . . . then I put a teaspoon full in my tomato soup for lunch and then I used about a tablespoon to cook a shrimp and veggie stir fry that I used coconut milk in the sauce!!!! No wonder I was curled up in a ball wanting to pull off my own skin and puke all at the same time! I feel much better today so I guess I'll try again in a day or two with much much less lol.

[confused]

OMG I think I used WAAAYYY too much for my first day! For breakfast I had a think thin bar with some coconut in it . . . then I put a teaspoon full in my tomato soup for lunch and then I used about a tablespoon to cook a shrimp and veggie stir fry that I used coconut milk in the sauce!!!! No wonder I was curled up in a ball wanting to pull off my own skin and puke all at the same time! I feel much better today so I guess I'll try again in a day or two with much much less lol.

Yep it sounds like u used way too much. When i finally attempt some, i will know to only have a tiny bit on my first attempt, after the last few days, i dont want to feel like crap soon lol.

paula

[moldlady]

Psipsina,

Oh my yes you dear one.... You must have had terrible die off and thinking that death would be better. Good news is you probably killed off all the fungus in your intestinal track.

Now, pump with probiotics to fill in the emplty spaces or the fungus will come back. I'd take some with each meal and before bedtime too. It will help those membranes heal too.

Next time use a small amount and you may not feel much of anything.

sorry that happened....

moldlady

[psipsina]

Psipsina,

Oh my yes you dear one.... You must have had terrible die off and thinking that death would be better. Good news is you probably killed off all the fungus in your intestinal track.

Now, pump with probiotics to fill in the emplty spaces or the fungus will come back. I'd take some with each meal and before bedtime too. It will help those membranes heal too.

Next time use a small amount and you may not feel much of anything.

sorry that happened....

moldlady

Lol I had no idea what I was doing to myself!! I read somewhere that two tablespoons a day was the serving size as a supplement for coconut oil. I have been taking Natren's trinity probiotic everyday but only once . . . it says to take it without any other supplements/drugs within a few hours and with foods so I do it at breakfast and then with dinner and lunch I do all my other supplements. I've also been eating sugar/vinegar free pickles which are supposed to be probiotic . . . they actually make my belly feel sooo much better from die-off. I'm also taking colustrum to help heal up my poor intestines from this mess. I guess I just got a bit overambitious with my supplements . . . I got all excited to kick some candida butt!

[moldlady]

Psipsina,

Keep us posted on your next trials. I was also a glutten for punishment as I took HT continually eventhough I kept getting die off. By the 4th day, no more die off and I was okay. I wanted to get well fast!

ML

[psipsina]

Psipsina,

Keep us posted on your next trials. I was also a glutten for punishment as I took HT continually eventhough I kept getting die off. By the 4th day, no more die off and I was okay. I wanted to get well fast!

ML

I put a bit into a veggie sautee this evening (probably about 1/4 teaspoon) and had some die off symptoms (I also had some raw garlic and oregano oil with dinner) but no where near as bad as what happened with my mega dose yesterday so I definitely think it was die off and not an allergy. I also picked up some bach rescue remedy to help with some of the emotional effects of the die off which is working nicely. Like you I'd rather get this done quickly instead of prolonging my suffering but I don't want to overload my body with the toxins either by going too far too fast.

[confused]

Lol I had no idea what I was doing to myself!! I read somewhere that two tablespoons a day was the serving size as a supplement for coconut oil. I have been taking Natren's trinity probiotic everyday but only once . . . it says to take it without any other supplements/drugs within a few hours and with foods so I do it at breakfast and then with dinner and lunch I do all my other supplements. I've also been eating sugar/vinegar free pickles which are supposed to be probiotic . . . they actually make my belly feel sooo much better from die-off. I'm also taking colustrum to help heal up my poor intestines from this mess. I guess I just got a bit overambitious with my supplements . . . I got all excited to kick some candida butt!

Were do u get this pickles or do u make them. I would love to eat an pickle lol.

I thimk i will wait to try cooconut oil when i have a few days to do nothing and be sick, which isnt often with the kids lol.

paula

[aprilh]

I make yummy gluten free homemade chicken nuggets using coconut oil and coconut milk. The kids love it. I don't notice any reaction to it at all

Also, I make coconut soup too that is SOOOOO good!

[confused]

I make yummy gluten free homemade chicken nuggets using coconut oil and coconut milk. The kids love it. I don't notice any reaction to it at all

Also, I make coconut soup too that is SOOOOO good!

I want that recipe lol

paula

[psipsina]

Were do u get this pickles or do u make them. I would love to eat an pickle lol.

I thimk i will wait to try cooconut oil when i have a few days to do nothing and be sick, which isnt often with the kids lol.

paula

They are called "bubbie's pickles" and I get them in the refrigerated section of my wholefoods. They are soooooooo good.

[moldlady]

They are called "bubbie's pickles" and I get them in the refrigerated section of my wholefoods. They are soooooooo good.

I'm going to WFs on Sunday. I'm going to look for them also. I do miss pickles. I haven't had one in probably 8 years.

That coconut soup sounds good too.

ML

[dbmamaz]

do miss pickles. I haven't had one in probably 8 years.

ML

Ok, i'm following this thread some because I believe candida is part of my problem . .. moldlady, are you saying you've been on the candida diet for 8 years straight? I'm really not sure I'm ready to make that kind of lifestyle change . .. staying off gluten for ever, ok . . but off yeast, mushrooms, vinegar, sugar, forever? Is this after trying anti-fungals, or in addition to them, or are you not willing to try chemical antifungals? What symptoms keep you on this diet long term?

[aprilh]

Homemade chicken nuggets:

I keep a big jar of homemade gluten free bread crumbs in the freezer for different uses. Just food process a loaf of gluten free bread and freeze.

Get 3 bowls ready

1) 2 eggs with about 1/2 cup coconut milk (lite)- whisk

2) Brown Rice Flour

3) gluten free bread crumbs

Get some coconut oil heating on the stove in a big skillet and preheat the oven to 350.

Cut up all your chicken breast into whatever size peices you want.

One by one dip in this order: B. Rice Flour, coat in coconut/egg mixture, then coat in bread crumbs.

Put in skillet after that to brown on both sides.

Finish off by cooking in the oven for about 5-10 minutes - only if you notice the middle isn't quite done.

I like to do a big batch and freeze for reheating.

This has a good coconutty flavor. You can add some salt and a tiny pinch of cayenne while cooking. The kids didn't like the coconutty flavor at first but now they love it.

[aprilh]

Coconut soup....I got this idea from Mama Fu's Restaurant. They serve their coconut soup with chicken, mushrooms, tomatoes.

So, you can make soup however you like, but here's what I do:

Saute in the pot thin sliced carrots, celery, organic onions, add garlic towards the end.

When slightly cooked add a good quality chicken broth. You can add really whatever else you like. Cooked chicken, other veggies, whatever.

Bring to a boil for about 5 minutes until veggies are cooked. Add about 1/2 to whole can of coconut milk lite. Heat up.

Towards the end I like to add some spinach leaves and pinch of cayenne and of course salt

Garnish with fresh chopped cilantro, avacado slices and lime juice.

YUMMY!

[aprilh]

dbmamaz,

Everyone is different in respect to how long they have to stay on the candida diet.

Moldlady was exposed for over 19 years ( i think) to a moldy building. She'll answer that question better than I when she gets a chance to log on.

I have been at this for about 1 1/2 years. Only very strict at the beginning. Now I can allow myself things but I have to watch it. The reason the yeast keep coming back is because I have underlying heavy metal issues.

So, once I finish detoxing then my immune system will better be able to keep the yeast in check. Right now, I try not to stress my system so much.

You may not have as bad a problem as I once had, so you may not need to be on phase I for as long.

• My symptoms at the beginning of this were:
  
• brain fog - could hardly formulate sentences
  
• leaky gut
  
• inflammation
  
  • 
    

  after eating certain foods I could feel the inflammation crawl up my spine and I would get an immediate backache, neckache, headache.

  • bloating (looked like I was 6 months pregnant)
    
  • itchiness
    
  • Feeling like things were biting me (yeast)
    
  • eye twitching
    
  • Trouble sleeping
    
  • reactions to many different foods
    
  • dizziness
    
  • 
    

  I would get real sleepy after certain foods. Like I felt drugged.

  I am sure there are more.

  So, basically I healed leaky gut, killed of fungus with antifungals, replenished with probiotics.

  Now, I try and keep a "clean" diet and rotate antifungals and probiotics to keep yeast in check.

[confused]

Thanks for the recipes. I didnt know we could have breadcrumbs, if so now im so excited i can make my meatballs for the game on sunday. DO i need to be careful what bread crumbs from a certain bread i can use. I have a lot of mixes and floures that i can make my own.

paula

[psipsina]

Thanks for the recipes. I didnt know we could have breadcrumbs, if so now im so excited i can make my meatballs for the game on sunday. DO i need to be careful what bread crumbs from a certain bread i can use. I have a lot of mixes and floures that i can make my own.

paula

I've never found store bought gluten-free breadcrumbs that are friendly to a candida diet personally. Everyone uses yeast which you're not supposed to have while on the candida diet and many people who have candida problems will be sensitive for even once they get the candida under control. The best thing to do is get a mix and make it at home without the yeast and then throw it in a food processor yourself. I've used baking soda instead of yeast personally with mixed success depending on the mix I buy.

[psipsina]

What do y'all think about maltitol on the candida diet??

I've admitted to myself that I can't go as low carb as I probably should be. For about 5 days I did nothing but meat and veggies and lemon/lime squeezed into water and I came really close to a mental breakdown at one point. I added in some brown rice cereal *unsweetened* and the idea was to have a half cup as a snack when I felt like breaking down but now I'm not so sure I can control my intake enough. I keep on breaking and eating way more than I should be and I know I'm feeding the candida. I found some gluten-free think thin bars that are sugar free too . . . sweetened with maltitol. I feel like I'll be able to control my intake better since a serving size is prepackaged . . . even if I have two in a day it wouldn't be too many carbs and it would be alot more protein and nutrients that I'm getting with the brown rice cereal. My only concern is the maltitol . . . does anyone know if its safe for the candida or does it feed it?? I've never had GI symptoms from the maltitol so I'm safe in that regard. TIA!

[aprilh]

I used to buy Ener-G Yeast free gluten free bread and make bread crumbs from that.

On the other hand I am not sure about yeast in breads. Seems like the debate we had on YC a while back everyone said the yeast is dead after it bakes. So, you would have to watch out for the carbs. I wouldn't think there are that many in meatballs.

[aprilh]

I don't know much about malitol, but xylitol is safe and a natural antifungal along with being a good sweetner.