Candida Diet

[moldlady]

dbmamaz,

Everyone is different in respect to how long they have to stay on the candida diet.

Moldlady was exposed for over 19 years ( i think) to a moldy building. She'll answer that question better than I when she gets a chance to log on.

I have been at this for about 1 1/2 years. Only very strict at the beginning. Now I can allow myself things but I have to watch it. The reason the yeast keep coming back is because I have underlying heavy metal issues.

So, once I finish detoxing then my immune system will better be able to keep the yeast in check. Right now, I try not to stress my system so much.

You may not have as bad a problem as I once had, so you may not need to be on phase I for as long.

• My symptoms at the beginning of this were:
  
• brain fog - could hardly formulate sentences
  
• leaky gut
  
• inflammation
  
  • 
    

  after eating certain foods I could feel the inflammation crawl up my spine and I would get an immediate backache, neckache, headache.

  • bloating (looked like I was 6 months pregnant)
    
  • itchiness
    
  • Feeling like things were biting me (yeast)
    
  • eye twitching
    
  • Trouble sleeping
    
  • reactions to many different foods
    
  • dizziness
    
  • 
    

  I would get real sleepy after certain foods. Like I felt drugged.

  I am sure there are more.

  So, basically I healed leaky gut, killed of fungus with antifungals, replenished with probiotics.

  Now, I try and keep a "clean" diet and rotate antifungals and probiotics to keep yeast in check.

Thanks April for answering as I've been gone or very busy in the last two days!! And, thank you for the recipes. I can't wait to try them.

You are correct and basically, everytime I tried to check to see if I was healed, I would go through die off again. At first, I thought I'd be on this a month or two and be well. NOT. Then, I did 6 months and tested. Die off again. I've got a nasty area in my small intestines that seems to have deep rooted fungus that I must work on.

I also found out that if you have heavy metals this process is not over in a short time. I've been detoxing for 2 years now slowly. I'm finally started to make some headway on that by doing green juicing. I also take coriander and cilantro. I was concerned about malabsorption of nutrients due to heavy metals or maybe even celiac. So, I thought to eliminate both and see if I can get some healing in my intestines.

All my testing by doctors yielded nothing. All numbers fell in normal ranges so I was very frustrated to say the least. I can see however that there have been similar problems that may run in the family and that's why I"m thinking celiac.

My question: Can celiac problems be caused by heavy metals and fungal issues?

moldlady

[aprilh]

Moldlady,

A lot of people have the gene for celiac but it lays dormant. Trauma can cause this dormant gene to become active. My ND said severe case of yeast could cause this to happen. And in my personal opinion I do think that metals can cause all sorts of changes in the body. Some cannot be undone.

On another note, gluten can be hard for someone with a chronic condition and is best avoided. On a anti-inflammatory diet, it is recommended to avoid it. So, if you do still have gut inflammation, this may be why you might feel better without. Not necessarily that you are celiac, although that could be the case too.

Another plausible explanation is that you are not quite healed in the gut area due to fungus so the wheat/gluten is irritating the already irritated gut lining.

My personal opinion is that gluten and dairy is best avoided by anyone with major fungus and metal issues. Although some feel they do fine on it.

I read so much on celiac when I first started having issues. I thought my issues were from being celiac but later learned of candida. I am glad it happened this way because being the researcher and learner that I am, I learned A LOT about celiac. I don't think I would have learned so much if it had been the other way around.

Guess everything happens for a reason, huh!

[dbmamaz]

Ok, i'd love to hear anyones opinion about my symptoms and yeast .. . i had violent D as an infant, was taken off wheat and milk for a few mo after a food challenge. In HS i was on antibiotics for 2 years for acne, and thats when I remember having serious problems with D again. In college the chronic vaginal yeast infections started. Acidopholous taken for the yeast infections helped the D more than the infections. Finally oral nystatin helped me - for a while.

First pregnancy was lots of D (when I tried to take prenatals) and lots of yeast, but I could digest milk better. Yeast was better for several years after that, but returned some time after my third child.

2 years ago my (2nd) husband moved out after the most stressful year I'd ever known, but he moved back in 6 mo later. This past june, we agreed for me to quit work (which was also incredibly stressful) and I feel like i've been trying to put myself back together ever since. Life is still stressful w the kids (15 yo angry girl who ran away and jumped out a window last year, 11 yo on 3 heavy meds asperger and bipolar, and the most stubborn 4 yo i've ever had), but my energy had been pretty much nil since the fighting w hubby began - just so exhausted all the time, had to take at least 1 day off work every other week just to sleep, and still once i was home, no energy, no motivation. The anxiety kept me playing video games all day trying to calm down, the depression had me convinced I was a flawed person who had 3 flawed kids and wasnt up to the job of raising them.

So, I decided to quit wheat and milk, because for years i'd thought i might feel healthier if i did. Lifelong digestive stress was immediately better, and soon my energy improved and i realized i hadnt had an exederin in a month (used to be at least 4/wk). And the depression and anxiety were lifting too.

Still, I wanted to make sure other foods werent tripping me up, so i took the A.L.C.A.T. test - i came up sensitive to probably 1/3 of the foods they tested me for, reacted to gluten, casien and candida. after working through the terror of trying to drop rice in addition to all gluten and dairy, and onions and hot peppers and pork and beef (we already didnt eat that, tho) .. . i kept thinking the yeast is probably a lot of why i'm having so many food reactions - leaky gut.

But the thought of going carb-free . . . i dont think I can. Even dramatically cutting sugar is really hard. i was prescribed diflucan (i think) 1/mo about a year ago. The first one knocked me for a loop, so I never took it again, but continued to have yeast infections. The yeast infections seem to have abated since I went off gluten . . . but i'm still worried about healing my gut.

I am not patient at all, and I am not up for eliminating much else from my diet right now. I am overdue for another ob-gyn apt, and i'm tempted to see if I can get her to rx me some nystatin instead. Oh, and my celiac panel, taken 6 weeks off wheat, came back negative.

Ok, theres my story, any opinions?

[psipsina]

Ok, i'd love to hear anyones opinion about my symptoms and yeast .. . i had violent D as an infant, was taken off wheat and milk for a few mo after a food challenge. In HS i was on antibiotics for 2 years for acne, and thats when I remember having serious problems with D again. In college the chronic vaginal yeast infections started. Acidopholous taken for the yeast infections helped the D more than the infections. Finally oral nystatin helped me - for a while.

First pregnancy was lots of D (when I tried to take prenatals) and lots of yeast, but I could digest milk better. Yeast was better for several years after that, but returned some time after my third child.

2 years ago my (2nd) husband moved out after the most stressful year I'd ever known, but he moved back in 6 mo later. This past june, we agreed for me to quit work (which was also incredibly stressful) and I feel like i've been trying to put myself back together ever since. Life is still stressful w the kids (15 yo angry girl who ran away and jumped out a window last year, 11 yo on 3 heavy meds asperger and bipolar, and the most stubborn 4 yo i've ever had), but my energy had been pretty much nil since the fighting w hubby began - just so exhausted all the time, had to take at least 1 day off work every other week just to sleep, and still once i was home, no energy, no motivation. The anxiety kept me playing video games all day trying to calm down, the depression had me convinced I was a flawed person who had 3 flawed kids and wasnt up to the job of raising them.

So, I decided to quit wheat and milk, because for years i'd thought i might feel healthier if i did. Lifelong digestive stress was immediately better, and soon my energy improved and i realized i hadnt had an exederin in a month (used to be at least 4/wk). And the depression and anxiety were lifting too.

Still, I wanted to make sure other foods werent tripping me up, so i took the A.L.C.A.T. test - i came up sensitive to probably 1/3 of the foods they tested me for, reacted to gluten, casien and candida. after working through the terror of trying to drop rice in addition to all gluten and dairy, and onions and hot peppers and pork and beef (we already didnt eat that, tho) .. . i kept thinking the yeast is probably a lot of why i'm having so many food reactions - leaky gut.

But the thought of going carb-free . . . i dont think I can. Even dramatically cutting sugar is really hard. i was prescribed diflucan (i think) 1/mo about a year ago. The first one knocked me for a loop, so I never took it again, but continued to have yeast infections. The yeast infections seem to have abated since I went off gluten . . . but i'm still worried about healing my gut.

I am not patient at all, and I am not up for eliminating much else from my diet right now. I am overdue for another ob-gyn apt, and i'm tempted to see if I can get her to rx me some nystatin instead. Oh, and my celiac panel, taken 6 weeks off wheat, came back negative.

Ok, theres my story, any opinions?

My personal experience with nystatin is that its more of a bandaid than a solution if not done with the diet. I'm recovering from about 6 months of antibiotics (I had the candida under control before that) and tried to just do nystatin or sporonox without the diet and the candida kept coming back with a vengeance. Also most MDs only give you the antifungals long enough to get rid of the oral thrush or a vaginal yeast infection which isn't really enough to get the systemic infection under control. I know that the ND who helped me my first time around said that you need to be on antifungals for 6months rotating between a few to really get the buggers under control in most cases. As horrible as the idea of the low carb diet is (and trust me I understand I've been doing it now for two weeks) it is the only way to get better. The fact that it is sooo hard for you to give up sugars shows how much you need to do it. Its not normal to meltdown without sugars or to feel the horrible effects of die off when you take antifungals.

[dbmamaz]

Ok, 2 quick questions - what are typical die-off symptoms, and what does 'herxing' mean?

[psipsina]

Ok, 2 quick questions - what are typical die-off symptoms, and what does 'herxing' mean?

For me I feel achy and cranky mostly. Sometimes some nausea or a headache. It can get pretty intense like a bad flu or athritic feeling sometimes. If you take it slow it isn't too bad. I have even managed to wait tables with a perky smile thru it.

[aprilh]

Mamaz,

I most definately think you have a systemic fungal (yeast) condition. I don't doubt that you may have other underlying problems, but one thing at the time.

Do you have a good ND that understands yeast issues? You don't necessarily have to go "carb" free, you just need to know which carbs to avoid. Check out the diet at www.wholeapproach.com/diet . This is the one I started with as a guideline. This site has lots of other valuable information and I would encourage you to research and learn about this as much as you can.

I agree with Psipina, that diet is key in getting better. Nystatin only works in the gut and is not a systemic antifungal. This may help some of your symptoms but will not touch the others. Another prescription that does go in the bloodstream is Diflucan. I have not taken this but others I know have.

I have always stuck with the natural antifungals and they can be quite strong and do the trick. You need to go slow. The rule of thumb is to work on healing leaky gut. Definately keep off dairy and wheat because those food proteins leaking through the gut wall wreak havoc on the body. I agree that yeast and leaky gut can cause all sorts of wierd food sensitivities. This was the case for me as well. I felt a huge improvement off dairy and gluten in the beginning , but this was not the only changes I had to make. For, my symptoms did start to reappear when I ate "gluten Free" brownies and "gluten free" cookies. This is when I figured out it wasn't only about the gluten. The sugar was feeding the yeast.

Sounds like you have passed on this problem to your children. I had this happen to me. My worst yeast symptoms were when I was pregant with my second child. He was born with yeast issues and the same food sensitivities that I had. They could benefit from a gluten free, dairy free, sugar free diet and a good quality probiotic. If you are not doing that already.

The rule of thumb is to heal leaky gut, kill off the fungus, and replenish with good quality probiotics like Natren or Custom Probiotics (www.customprobiotics.com)

You had shown symptoms of yeast prior to your stressful marriage situation. And stress can wreak havoc on the body causing your immune system to become weak. This allows the already advancing yeast to take over.

I had AWFUL anxiety that amazingly disappeared after dealing with my yeast issues. That in itself was worth it to me.

Have you checked out www.pecanbread.com? This is a good site where dietary restrictions show improvement in autistic type children.

Herxing is when you feel bad because you have killed off so much fungus that your body is having trouble dealing with the toxins that has produced. Some call it flu like symptoms. It differs for everyone. That's why its a good idea to go slow and support your detox organs as you go. Some people have die off just by taking probiotics. That did not happen to me, though.

Hope this information helps! Post anytime you have questions!

[confused]

I just wanted to say i am feeling so great these last few days since i herxed, i almost feel like a new person. Today i got up and exercised and cleaned the house and took the kids to school and went shopping. This is the most i have done in awhile. I have stuck to the diet and i dont even have an urge to cheat, and beleive me if i wanted to i could of yesterday we had so much booze and food in this house and i didnt even care. I just stuck to my almonds for my munchies lol and a veggie tray.

I think i am ready to start antifungals, im thinking of making cocounut shrimp for dinner or something with coconut oil. I also went and got my activated charcoal, so i will start that tonight. I might not ever want to go back to sugar even when i kill all of these mean yeast monsters lol.

paula

[Ken70]

It's probably too early for me to have any constructive response but I am going through the die off as we speak. I've never heard of hexing until now.

For me the die off started with a bang. It was horrible, painful, smelly ....just revolting frankly. It's happpened five times in the past year but I never knew what it was. This was Friday night. The headaches have been severe, but I have had hours of energy and mental clarity interspersed with hours of cloudiness and lethargy. I do feel like I have the flew at the moment. I did have a good cold last week that I was almost over. This feels like a new cold.

Right now I am only using my diet to overcome this. I'm waiting on a bunch of supplements and "support" as my British FM practitioner calls them. Hopefully they won't turn into just expensive urine.

I've been gluten free since June which has helped my intestinally to live a normal life at least (not running for the bathroom anymore). Anxiety cleared up and energy was better for a while then spiraled down in early winter when the light got less. I actually went to a tanning booth two weeks ago to see if my energy issues were sun related. I think it helped but I got sunburned. I told the girl I didn't want a tan just some vitamin D production. I did half the normal time and still got burned. Too funny. Only me.

FM doctor is the one who figured out through blood, urine and saliva testing that I have candida. I was so sure it was just gluten that I won't be proclaiming victory now as I did then. I need six months of convincing my immune system that I will take care of myself a little better in the future before I think I will truly have recovered.

[moldlady]

April... great tips and thoughts.

Paula... I'm so glad that you are coming out of the woods on this. When faced with food I know will make me sick, it is so much easier to pass it by and make smart choices.

Ken70,

Herxing is a terrible feeling but you know that you are killing off the main culprit and that should feel good mind-wise. Each person is different in how die off will affect them. Mine was mostly digestive issues. My husband would say that his legs felt like they were made out of rubber and that he was very weak. both issues, if you just wait them out, will pass.

Hang in there...

I've just started my 3rd week of no gluten at all. In the past I was pretty close to this and started feeling so good that I tested myself. I'm wondering if maybe I can get some energy back and better absorption of nutrients so that I can really cut down on the calories and lose a stubborn 15 lbs.

moldlady

[Ken70]

April... great tips and thoughts.

Paula... I'm so glad that you are coming out of the woods on this. When faced with food I know will make me sick, it is so much easier to pass it by and make smart choices.

Ken70,

Herxing is a terrible feeling but you know that you are killing off the main culprit and that should feel good mind-wise. Each person is different in how die off will affect them. Mine was mostly digestive issues. My husband would say that his legs felt like they were made out of rubber and that he was very weak. both issues, if you just wait them out, will pass.

Hang in there...

I've just started my 3rd week of no gluten at all. In the past I was pretty close to this and started feeling so good that I tested myself. I'm wondering if maybe I can get some energy back and better absorption of nutrients so that I can really cut down on the calories and lose a stubborn 15 lbs.

moldlady

Thanks. I lost 30 pounds from going gluten free and have already lost an additional 6 pounds from going completely sugar and carb free. I am at 194 and hope I don't loose any more.

My FM doctor has me on 3 months of this diet with an additional 6 months of a slightly altered diet. He says it is all about convincing the immune system that everything is right with the world again. The immune system has a memory which is why so many people take so long (some never) to get well. I think you have to be 100% if you want to beat this so that you can enjoy your life like a regular human being. I know I won't cheat even though this is an extremely difficult diet. I love my berries and fruit.

[moldlady]

Thanks. I lost 30 pounds from going gluten free and have already lost an additional 6 pounds from going completely sugar and carb free. I am at 194 and hope I don't loose any more.

My FM doctor has me on 3 months of this diet with an additional 6 months of a slightly altered diet. He says it is all about convincing the immune system that everything is right with the world again. The immune system has a memory which is why so many people take so long (some never) to get well. I think you have to be 100% if you want to beat this so that you can enjoy your life like a regular human being. I know I won't cheat even though this is an extremely difficult diet. I love my berries and fruit.

Ken70,

You are so right! One has to be faithful to the plan! I tried doing things the other way and it just doesn't work. My husband lost 30 lbs real easy on this plan. I however managed to stay the same. I'd like to trim off 15 and I"m hoping that repairing my intestines will help manage that by getting better absorption and not feel the need to keep nourishing the body.

We eat berries or grapefruit when we get those late night cravings. Otherwise we're pretty much a big breakfast and late afternoon meal. It seems to work well for us.

moldlady

[Ken70]

Ken70,

You are so right! One has to be faithful to the plan! I tried doing things the other way and it just doesn't work. My husband lost 30 lbs real easy on this plan. I however managed to stay the same. I'd like to trim off 15 and I"m hoping that repairing my intestines will help manage that by getting better absorption and not feel the need to keep nourishing the body.

We eat berries or grapefruit when we get those late night cravings. Otherwise we're pretty much a big breakfast and late afternoon meal. It seems to work well for us.

moldlady

You could always try the functional medicine guy I went to. Many people go to him for weight loss. His food guide has the feel of the blood type diet but he says the BTD is a total farce. Through blood, urine, and saliva he can tell you many things about what foods you should and shouldn't eat. They will be in line with your candida and gluten problems (assuming gluten is a problem) as well. I first read about this guy in Outside magazine. The writer did the program for 30 days. He had great results and he was already in shape. If you are not arriving at your healthy weight (assuming you know what that is) there is probably something off with your diet. Some food that is holding you back. I've been stuck at 200 for 6 months. My initial 30 came from going gluten free - back when I thought I had all the answers. The recent 6 came off in 5 days (yes I know it's probably water, ketosis etc..).

You can google functional medicine or Laurent Bannock. He works with alot of European famous, Madonna, Sting and his wife, etc.. He actually left England because it got to be to stressful when he became the Dr. Phil of the nutrition world over there. I really like the guy so far. Down to earth and straight talking but gentle. He lives and works in Sante Fe New Mexico now. I'm sure you could find an FM practitioner near you but he wrote the book apparently.

I would add that I think anyone reading this post should find a really great doctor that will examine all of you and make sure you don't waste the time that I have battling one problem only to find that there was something else that also needed to be dealt with.

Ken

[dbmamaz]

You could always try the functional medicine guy I went to. . . .I would add that I think anyone reading this post should find a really great doctor

Ken

Its funny, every other search I do on the web seems to come up with the same doctor - she was on the functional medicine list, too. She sounds like a doctor I really want to work with - she just doesnt take insurance and she is almost 30 minutes away. Still, I'm planning on seeing her soon.

[Ken70]

Its funny, every other search I do on the web seems to come up with the same doctor - she was on the functional medicine list, too. She sounds like a doctor I really want to work with - she just doesnt take insurance and she is almost 30 minutes away. Still, I'm planning on seeing her soon.

She's a he actually. You are lucky to live nearby. I am in Massachusetts so I have done it all over the phone and email. Be sure to report your experience here please. I would really like to know what he tells you to do. Keep in mind the costs. He is $350 for a one hour consultation which is all I have used so far. The saliva, urine and blood tests were around $600 or so. After it all came back he has recommended a bunch of supplements that he sells. The 30 day supply is costing me $300. I am always suspicious of anyone selling anything but we all have to make a living and I believe this guy not only knows what he is doing but believes that these supplements are necessary to quickly get us back on track.

[dbmamaz]

She's a he actually.

No, I'm sorry, i didnt word my post clearly enough - there is a woman named Susan Solomon, she has an article on her website about celiac and gluten sensitivity, as well as an article on adrenal fatigue, both of which I think are current issues of mine. She has showed up on several searches I've made, and when I looked at the functional medicine site for doctors in Richmond, VA (where I am), she was listed.

I dont know what she does w supplements, yet. Her initial 90 minute consultation is $180. She used to be an ob-gyn, but turned away from the medical model (I like that she's medically trained, tho, I trust that). She's also on a spiritual trip, which can get wierd, but on the other hand, I think I could use some more magic and joy in my life. She asks her patients to write a narrative about their lives from when they last felt well, if ever, including symptoms and stressful events. I'm intrigued ... we'll see.

[confused]

She's a he actually. You are lucky to live nearby. I am in Massachusetts so I have done it all over the phone and email. Be sure to report your experience here please. I would really like to know what he tells you to do. Keep in mind the costs. He is $350 for a one hour consultation which is all I have used so far. The saliva, urine and blood tests were around $600 or so. After it all came back he has recommended a bunch of supplements that he sells. The 30 day supply is costing me $300. I am always suspicious of anyone selling anything but we all have to make a living and I believe this guy not only knows what he is doing but believes that these supplements are necessary to quickly get us back on track.

Does he only test for candida, or do those test test for other things. And hwo do oyu do the test if you have never seen him.

paula

[Ken70]

Does he only test for candida, or do those test test for other things. And hwo do oyu do the test if you have never seen him.

paula

I had blood drawn and seperated at a local hospital. The urine and saliva were put into vials form a kit that was sent to me. All 3 kits were sent to a lab that I paid directly. He recieved the results and sent them to me. I will list the headings for the screenings that I see on the results

Renal Function / Electrolyte Screen

Liver Function Screen

Bone and Mineral Screen

Thyroid Screen

Coronary Risk Screen

Anemia Screen

Complete Blood Count

Celiac Gluten Sensitivity Screen

Glycemic Control Screen

Auto Immune Screen

Invasive Candida Screen

Functional Adrenal Strees Profil

Estradiol Reference Range

Testosterone Reference Range

Urinary Indican

Urinary Lipid PRofile

Urinary Bile Acid Sulfates

Under each of those screenings are dozens of individual results for things like cratine, cortisol, dhea-s, cholesterol etc..

He made specific recommendations about diet and supplements after reviewing everything.

[Ken70]

No, I'm sorry, i didnt word my post clearly enough - there is a woman named Susan Solomon, she has an article on her website about celiac and gluten sensitivity, as well as an article on adrenal fatigue, both of which I think are current issues of mine. She has showed up on several searches I've made, and when I looked at the functional medicine site for doctors in Richmond, VA (where I am), she was listed.

I dont know what she does w supplements, yet. Her initial 90 minute consultation is $180. She used to be an ob-gyn, but turned away from the medical model (I like that she's medically trained, tho, I trust that). She's also on a spiritual trip, which can get wierd, but on the other hand, I think I could use some more magic and joy in my life. She asks her patients to write a narrative about their lives from when they last felt well, if ever, including symptoms and stressful events. I'm intrigued ... we'll see.

Go for it! The spiritual thing could be fun. I'm going to an acupuncturist on Thursday as a little extra insurance. I went to a tanning booth last week and got burned Thought I might be suffering from SAD. I'm leaving no stone unturned until I feel better than perfect!

[aprilh]

I have been reading along and just wanted to say that acupuncture has been really helping me with symptoms.

Also, Paula, You probably don't need to take the activated charcoal unless you are feeling symptomatic. Like when you are herxing. I didn't know if you planned on taking it daily. And be sure and take it away from food and supplements because it will absorb the nutrients. Unless you feel like you ate something that will make you sick - something bad.

I had a doc tell me to go to the tanning bed for some vit d. I haven't done it yet. Mercola sells the kind with out the harmful rays (uv i think) but its quite expensive.

[confused]

I had blood drawn and seperated at a local hospital. The urine and saliva were put into vials form a kit that was sent to me. All 3 kits were sent to a lab that I paid directly. He recieved the results and sent them to me. I will list the headings for the screenings that I see on the results

Renal Function / Electrolyte Screen

Liver Function Screen

Bone and Mineral Screen

Thyroid Screen

Coronary Risk Screen

Anemia Screen

Complete Blood Count

Celiac Gluten Sensitivity Screen

Glycemic Control Screen

Auto Immune Screen

Invasive Candida Screen

Functional Adrenal Strees Profil

Estradiol Reference Range

Testosterone Reference Range

Urinary Indican

Urinary Lipid PRofile

Urinary Bile Acid Sulfates

Under each of those screenings are dozens of individual results for things like cratine, cortisol, dhea-s, cholesterol etc..

He made specific recommendations about diet and supplements after reviewing everything.

thanks for all that info, im really going into looking into this and even if i have to go see him it wont be that hard he is only like 3-4 hours away from me. All those test only cost you 600 bucks. Im going to look at the brochere aain at his website and figure out if i want to do this soon, or wait and see if i jsut feel better on the candida diet, since i know i do have it since my nd said so, even tho that is all she ever told me, i dotn think she tested for any of that stuff you mentionsd.

paula

[confused]

I have been reading along and just wanted to say that acupuncture has been really helping me with symptoms.

Also, Paula, You probably don't need to take the activated charcoal unless you are feeling symptomatic. Like when you are herxing. I didn't know if you planned on taking it daily. And be sure and take it away from food and supplements because it will absorb the nutrients. Unless you feel like you ate something that will make you sick - something bad.

I had a doc tell me to go to the tanning bed for some vit d. I haven't done it yet. Mercola sells the kind with out the harmful rays (uv i think) but its quite expensive.

April,

I havent taked it yet, but at least i do have it now lol. I have been feeling so great lately, its unreal. I think the blueberries have been what turned this whole thing around lol. I actually love them now.

paula

[Ken70]

thanks for all that info, im really going into looking into this and even if i have to go see him it wont be that hard he is only like 3-4 hours away from me. All those test only cost you 600 bucks. Im going to look at the brochere aain at his website and figure out if i want to do this soon, or wait and see if i jsut feel better on the candida diet, since i know i do have it since my nd said so, even tho that is all she ever told me, i dotn think she tested for any of that stuff you mentionsd.

paula

His website is www.doctorbannock.com

The tests were around $600. His helping me with the tests cost another $350. I think his website now says $380.

When does this f*&^%ing headache go away. I'm dying from it. Is Advil OK to take on the Candida diet?

[Ken70]

thanks for all that info, im really going into looking into this and even if i have to go see him it wont be that hard he is only like 3-4 hours away from me. All those test only cost you 600 bucks. Im going to look at the brochere aain at his website and figure out if i want to do this soon, or wait and see if i jsut feel better on the candida diet, since i know i do have it since my nd said so, even tho that is all she ever told me, i dotn think she tested for any of that stuff you mentionsd.

paula

One more thing - There is no reason you couldn't order the tests direct from the company and interpret them yourself. The read much like the Enterolab results with your result compared to a normal range. Anything abnormal gets singled out in bold type. I'm not sure what you would do though if your Creatine level was a little high or your thyroid needed help. That's why I'm using this guy to help me with diet, lifestyle and supplements to help me reverse all of this.

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One more thing - There is no reason you couldn't order the tests direct from the company and interpret them yourself. The read much like the Enterolab results with your result compared to a normal range. Anything abnormal gets singled out in bold type. I'm not sure what you would do though if your Creatine level was a little high or your thyroid needed help. That's why I'm using this guy to help me with diet, lifestyle and supplements to help me reverse all of this.

Thanks for that info also. Im sure i would rather have him do everything that way he can guide me if anything else is wrong after i get the results. I think i will try this after i get my taxes back.

paula