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Green12 Enthusiast
Green12
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I haven't felt nausea this time, but the first time I did the candida diet, I felt slightly nauseated.

I wonder if all the toxic binders you are on is the reason for this?

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dlp252 Apprentice
dlp252
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I wonder if all the toxic binders you are on is the reason for this?

Hum, yeah, I guess that could be it! Hadn't thought of that exactly, but I'm taking me some binders for sure, lol.

Flor Apprentice
Flor
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Hey you all,

I don't want to make any grand predictions, but I felt better today -- less nausea, more energy.

My mouth is dry ALL the time, no matter how much water I drink (and it's a LOT) -- you all having that too?

I do think the lemon helps with nausea. Better than that though is ginger.

I read some stuff last night about the die-off symptoms (Open Original Shared Link) and the need to take it slowly so as to not overwhelm the de-tox systems. One of the things I read said to eat some brown rice if the die-off symptoms are too bad.

I bought some liver cleanse tea at Whole Foods today and it was FOUL. Not sure how much of that I'll be drinking!

Take care,

Florence

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confused
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Hey you all,

I don't want to make any grand predictions, but I felt better today -- less nausea, more energy.

My mouth is dry ALL the time, no matter how much water I drink (and it's a LOT) -- you all having that too?

I do think the lemon helps with nausea. Better than that though is ginger.

I read some stuff last night about the die-off symptoms (Open Original Shared Link) and the need to take it slowly so as to not overwhelm the de-tox systems. One of the things I read said to eat some brown rice if the die-off symptoms are too bad.

I bought some liver cleanse tea at Whole Foods today and it was FOUL. Not sure how much of that I'll be drinking!

Take care,

Florence

I am thirsty alot to. My nd today told me to add an potato to my diet every day to slow things down. I have felt much better today to. I think its cause i have actually done stuff out of the house and not just in bed researching. Ok im off to get more fresh air now to, i had to wait for my vehicle to warm up lol. i love watching my kids play hockey it makes me feel much more better to.

paula

Flor Apprentice
Flor
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Let's hear it for finding joy wherever it may be! (because it sure ain't in the eating right now!). I get a lot of joy out of watching my almost-four-year-old play (and sleep!). And I get a lot of distraction out of knitting.

There's some balance in there between getting support and helpful information on the 'puter and getting depressed by being surrounded by the topic of illness and our symptoms too much. I'm hoping 2008 is a much less symptoms-focused year for me!

I was trying to pat myself on the back this afternoon just for having managed to stop eating sugar for two weeks, something I've never pulled off before in my 43 years on the planet!

I can't eat potatoes, but my problem for the moment isn't slowing things down anyway. My dry mouth doesn't seem connected to diarrhea, but to some other digestive dynamic. Liver again maybe?

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Rachel--24
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Charcoal works great for yeast "die-off".

When I was treating yeast (nystatin) I was taking charcoal and it worked for brain-fog better than anything else.

I always think of any die-off symptoms as a release of metals...and I do what I can to not let those metals "float" around. Get the toxins out or they will redistribute. Charcoal mops up alot of that.

confused Community Regular
confused
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I am going to talk to my nd today if i can take charxoal at least. Is there any side effects to it? and what brand is best, or does it really matter? Maybe i will just go search it lol

paula

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dlp252 Apprentice
dlp252
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I don't want to make any grand predictions, but I felt better today -- less nausea, more energy.

I was trying to pat myself on the back this afternoon just for having managed to stop eating sugar for two weeks, something I've never pulled off before in my 43 years on the planet!

Florence, YEAH, on feeling better. I get periods where I am extra thirsty no matter how much I drink, and I've not really ever connected that with anything...maybe I need to start keeping a better journal, lol.

STOPPING SUGAR FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME IS HUGELY IMPRESSIVE!!! (Sorry to shout, but that made me excited, lol!) Congratulations!

I am going to talk to my nd today if i can take charxoal at least. Is there any side effects to it? and what brand is best, or does it really matter? Maybe i will just go search it lol

From what I've found on the Internet, the side effects are pretty few and far between, but just like anything else, there may be some people out there who can't take it. It's generally pretty benign though.

Here is an excerpt from a website post on activated charcoal:

Side effects

Charcoal may cause constipation when taken for a drug overdose or accidental poisoning. A laxative should be taken after the crisis is over.

Activated charcoal may cause the stool to turn black. This side effect is to be expected.

Patients should consult a doctor if they have pain or swelling of the stomach.

Interactions

Activated charcoal should not be mixed with chocolate syrup, ice cream, or sherbet to make it more palatable. These foods prevent the charcoal from working properly.

From this website:

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Flor Apprentice
Flor
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I've been doing bentonite instead of charcoal (it's at the health food store as Sonne #7). I take it with the flax/oat bran/acacia fiber I'm doing. I'm trying to reproduce what's recommended on the Open Original Shared Link site.

They do caprylic acid (suspended in safflower oil, which I couldn't find), psyllium (which I can't take because it causes so much bloating/gas) and liquid bentonite. The bentonite is supposed to bind the toxins and the fiber to clear them out. And I do an epsom salts bath every day. I had to stop taking the caprylic acid the last few days because I felt so sick, but I'll start back on it now.

Whoever recommended raw garlic, thank you! I've been doing that every day and I think it really has helped. I always feel better after taking it.

I woke up this morning feeling FABULOUS. Normal poops for the first time in I can't remember how long, no more bloating, no more nausea, no more dry mouth, much better energy. Of course this could all be very temporary, but I'm excited for the moment.

aprilh Apprentice
aprilh
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Thats great Catefolly! Glad to hear! Garlic is a great thing. Be sure you get organic because garlic and onions contain a lot of sulphur and sulphur binds to metals so if its not grown in good *clean* soil it could soak up the metals in the soil.

We don't need any help in the toxin department.

Garlic also good for the liver! DO you let it sit 10 minutes before you use it? That activates the allicin.

Florence,

Great news on the sugar! So hard to do but well worth it! That was my hardest thing. When my yeast problem was REALLY bad I used to freak if I didn't have sugar everyday. I felt like it was heroin or something! I couldn't go without it. Now, I am much better.

truthsearcher Rookie
truthsearcher
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Charcoal does not like me. It really clogs me up as well as psyllium and I never dare take bentonite again.... solidified like concrete in me.... oh my... but I have a redundant, sluggish colon so any of those "mop ups" I have to avoid.

Does charcoal turn you stool dark? I took like 10 of those when I first did a transit test. My stool never turned dark, and 2 years later found out I have a 146 hour transit time with a "barium burger" test. That's over 6 days!

I take daily laxitives now to keep moving.

Green12 Enthusiast
Green12
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Gosh, I can't say enough about charcoal, sorry you had problems with it truthsearcher.

I have never taken it before, only when everyone started talking about it as a good toxic binder.

I have a huge issue with "c" too, but no problems so far in that department for me on the charcoal, which is surprising since so many things bind me up (psyllium, flax, and most other fiber supplements or bulking agents).

My bowels are moving quite normally :) .

In fact I think they are a lot more significant, I really think the charcoal is pulling a lot out.

Mine are a little darker, but not black. I only take 2 caps late at night, so I don't know it the dosage factors in- maybe the more you take the darker the stool?

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Rachel--24
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Gosh, I can't say enough about charcoal

Julie you sound like me now!! :lol:

I just LOVE charcoal .....and 5 years ago I could never imagine myself saying such a thing! :P

Its really the only binder I've been able to take since everything else tests poorly for me. But hey..I'm not complaining cause it works! :D

I havent really needed to take it for a few months now...I'm not feeling like I need it since I started the DMPS IV's but I think it will come in VERY handy once I start treating the parasites. Its saved me from feeling totally "out of it" lots of times. :)

I always remember my Dr. saying when you start getting those head symptoms as the yeast are dying...the "brainfog"...thats when charcoal has its shining moment. :)

Charcoal can be constipating but I never had that problem...I wasnt taking high doses though. Just 1 or 2 capsules at the most.

Its kind of a pain taking it away from food and supplements....not a good choice for longterm use since it binds the good stuff too...other than that I cant say enough good things. :)

aprilh Apprentice
aprilh
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Charcoal SAVED my life when I tried detoxing on my own. I suffered and suffered - thought I was going to die. Then I learned of charcoal. I will have it in the house always now.

I even put it on a bug bite on one of my children and it sucked up the venom and took the pain right out! That was sort of cool.

Clark Bent as Stupor-Man Contributor
Clark Bent as Stupor-Man
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I didn't have good experiences when I took charcoal a number of times in 2006... I was taking it on the advice of my nutritionist when I was having reactions and it only seemed to make me more fatigued and drained... nothing too overwhelming though it was significant enough... but combined with me not seeing any neurological benefits when I took it or alleviating any other symptoms, I stopped taking it completely...

perhaps it would be different if I took it now, who knows... I know a lot of people seem to do well with it... doesn't matter much though as it isn't very practical at all for me as I currently eat 7 meals a day and never really go more than 3 hours max without eating...

b91hd7fjk Apprentice
b91hd7fjk
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Hi everyone!

Ok, in hopes that I don't sound like a total idiot....what is this diet and where can I learn more!?!? I have been feeling very sick lately and am only eliminating gluten as of now. I have been reading more and more of this thread and before I start the "elimination diet" I would love to know more about this Candida Diet. I did some research and yeast issues dont seem to really pertain to me but I am loving how you guys are talking about it and I am absolutely up to the challenge...as a matter of fact PLEASE let me join in!!!!

-Staci

aprilh Apprentice
aprilh
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Hi everyone!

Ok, in hopes that I don't sound like a total idiot....what is this diet and where can I learn more!?!? I have been feeling very sick lately and am only eliminating gluten as of now. I have been reading more and more of this thread and before I start the "elimination diet" I would love to know more about this Candida Diet. I did some research and yeast issues dont seem to really pertain to me but I am loving how you guys are talking about it and I am absolutely up to the challenge...as a matter of fact PLEASE let me join in!!!!

-Staci

Hi Staci,

You can go here Open Original Shared Link and take this test to see if this is something that applies to you. If so, there is more information about the diet here www.wholeapproach.com.

And of course you can join in! Let us know how you do!

April

aprilh Apprentice
aprilh
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I can't remember if I posted this before, but here is some info on activated charcoal.

It does not soak up ALL toxins, but it does work on many. I take it with my apple pectin fiber in order to soak up more.

Open Original Shared Link

confused Community Regular
confused
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April,

what does apple pectin fiber do, does it just keep you regular. I also thought u cant take anything 2 hours before u take chacoral?

Im going to the health food store today to get some charcoal, you all sold me on it lol.

i am having another great day today, i am so thrilled.

paula

Flor Apprentice
Flor
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Okay, charcoal! I wanna try it! Where do you all get it, in what form? Brand?

After two years of chronic diarrhea, I'm having the other problem -- I'm not sure the fiber is helping move things through enough. What do you all take to keep things moving? I hate the feeling that all this stuff in me is dying and releasing toxins and then...just sitting there!

One thing I notice in the last day or so is that while my body feels better, I've been having some of the old anxiety/depression symptoms I had over a year ago when I was really sick. It's worrisome! But I also wonder, since my head's been doing so well for almost a year, if it's related to the yeast die-off.

I had a week of nausea and now I get to have a week of crummy mental health? Yippee!

By the way, I think it's the caprylic acid making me nauseated now -- maybe it's accelerating the die-off beyond what my liver can handle? I felt no nausea for over a day and then last night took the caprylic acid again and a half hour later I was nauseated. So for the moment, I'm going to proceed just with the diet, raw garlic (and yes, I smash it and let it sit for ten minutes like you suggested!), lemon juice, and other supplements.

A lot of the writing on the candida diet talks about the need to take this gradually and in stages as your body can handle the dumping. Dr. Semon's Feast Without Yeast actually lays out the diet part in stages as well -- I think it's four levels of increasing strictness and that you only go to the next level when the last one stops working. I sort of jumped into the candida diet right up to my neck from the very start.

confused Community Regular
confused
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Yep i heard to go into to it slowly and not go overboard, beleive me i wanted to jump all in at once also, but since im such an scaredy cat on taking new stuff, i think it kept me from jumping in too fast. It has been 8 days now and im feeling better every day, as long as i eat. And i also quit smoking yesterday cause i realized it was making my body completly freak out and i was feeling worse then i should be.

Maybe u need a smaller dose of caprylic acid, or liek u said just not take it for awhile then add it back in slowly.

paula

aprilh Apprentice
aprilh
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Okay, charcoal! I wanna try it! Where do you all get it, in what form? Brand?

After two years of chronic diarrhea, I'm having the other problem -- I'm not sure the fiber is helping move things through enough. What do you all take to keep things moving? I hate the feeling that all this stuff in me is dying and releasing toxins and then...just sitting there!

One thing I notice in the last day or so is that while my body feels better, I've been having some of the old anxiety/depression symptoms I had over a year ago when I was really sick. It's worrisome! But I also wonder, since my head's been doing so well for almost a year, if it's related to the yeast die-off.

I had a week of nausea and now I get to have a week of crummy mental health? Yippee!

By the way, I think it's the caprylic acid making me nauseated now -- maybe it's accelerating the die-off beyond what my liver can handle? I felt no nausea for over a day and then last night took the caprylic acid again and a half hour later I was nauseated. So for the moment, I'm going to proceed just with the diet, raw garlic (and yes, I smash it and let it sit for ten minutes like you suggested!), lemon juice, and other supplements.

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I read on whole approach that the pill form of caprylic acid is hard on the liver. And yeast toxins are hard on the liver, so the combo might be too much for your body to handle. A sluggish liver can cause nausea. Yea, I agree, take it in small stages. You gotta be able to get rid of the die off toxins.

I take apple pectin fiber and activated charcoal together. I don't think the charcoal will *absorb* this because its really just a medium to move wastes. Not an herb or supplement that I need to gain from. That is my understanding anyway.

However, I do have trouble getting it to mix well in water. Still haven't figured out how to work that! It globs up in the glass. I threw some into a stew I made and it dissolved quickly. So, I though AH HA! needs hot water - nope that didn't work either.

Raw garlic is great for yeast anyway! The activated charcoal can help absorb some of the toxins that are creating the bad environment in your brain. Hope that helps! It's pretty cheap investment. I don't have any particular brand recommendation. Just look for the usual additives that you don't want.

b91hd7fjk Apprentice
b91hd7fjk
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Hi Staci,

You can go here Open Original Shared Link and take this test to see if this is something that applies to you. If so, there is more information about the diet here www.wholeapproach.com.

And of course you can join in! Let us know how you do!

April

Thanks a bunch for the help April! I am going to seriously look into it and let you know.

Bye for now.

-Staci

confused Community Regular
confused
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Just wanted to pop in and say how much better im feeling on this candida diet. I have lost inches off my stomach and im getting my sex drive back and i have more energy then i have had for months. I am slowly getting back to the person i once was and it feels great. And heck it has been 24 hours since i have an cigarette, which i know was part to blame for how i was feeling. I actually woke up this morning and able to breathe with very little congestion, most days i cant breathe at all.

How is everyone else doing.

I couldnt get charcoal yesteday but she ordered me some in, it was funny when i was in there someone was asking why i wanted it, so i told her so she ordered some in to.

paula

dlp252 Apprentice
dlp252
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Paula, that is GREAT news!!!! Glad to hear you are feeling better! I am doing well, but had a rough week. Couldn't resist the coffee at work this week for some reason, and in the coffee put some of those flavored creamers. That's bad on so many levels it isn't funny. :P

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      how much gluten do I need to eat before blood tests?

      By catnapt · Posted

      after several years of issues with a para-gland issue, my endo has decided it's a good idea for me to be tested for celiac disease. I am 70 yrs old and stunned to learn that you can get celiac this late in life. I have just gradually stopped eating most foods that contain gluten over the past several years- they just make me feel ill- although I attributed it to other things like bread spiking blood sugar- or to the things I ate *with* the bread or crackers etc   I went to a party in Nov and ate a LOT of a vegan roast made with vital wheat gluten- as well as stuffing, rolls and pie crust... and OMG I was so sick! the pain, the bloating, the gas, the nausea... I didn't think it would ever end (but it did) and I was ready to go the ER but it finally subsided.   I mentioned this to my endo and now she wants me to be tested for celiac after 2 weeks of being on gluten foods. She has kind of flip flopped on how much gluten I should eat, telling me that if the symptoms are severe I can stop. I am eating 2-3 thin slices of bread per day (or english muffins) and wow- it does make me feel awful. But not as bad as when I ate that massive amnt of vital wheat gluten. so I will continue on if I have to... but what bothers me is - if it IS celiac, it seems stupid for lack of a better word, to intentionally cause more damage to my body... but I am also worried, on the other hand, that this is not a long enough challenge to make the blood work results valid.   can you give me any insight into this please?   thank you
    • trents
      Accuracy of testing concerns

      By trents · Posted

      The biopsy looks for damage to the mucosal lining of the small bowel from the inflammation caused by celiac disease when gluten is ingested. Once you remove gluten from the diet, inflammation subsides and the mucosal lining begins to heal. 
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