Candida Diet

[moldlady]

Hi Paula and April,

Paula,

I think that what you eat sounds pretty good compared to what most eat on here. The grapefruit is fine as it is very very low in natural sugars. I eat them often with no problems at all. I'm not a meat eater but that is your choice and qualifies for phase I.

The potato, even baked, is a question mark. YC said potatoes were okay but us phase I people felt it was too starchy and would feed the yeast/fungus. I had a friend that worked in a lab where they tested cultures for fungal resistant corn. They would grow the seedlings in potato starch media and see if the corn could survive the fungal infestations. That was a big eye opener for me. The starchy easily converts to sugar and use for the growth of fungus.

I'm at a loss for a worthy alternative. Steamed veggies like zuchini or other squash? Cooked brown rice with spices to make it palatable?

The lemon water is a great detox for liver and kidneys. It is so cold now that I use hot water and squeeze a half of fresh lemon into the water. Takes some getting used to but great for the body.

I'm glad you don't like bananas. We haven't had them in 9 years now. I miss them at times but have found other substitues like strawberries and blueberries.

April,

My great grandfather on my dad's side of the family grew and dried his own tobacco. He smoked until he was 91 and never got lung cancer. It is the fermentation of aspergillus niger with sugar and tobacco that creates the mycotoxins that poison the lining of the lung and produces the cancer. I wish everyone knew about this and then maybe more would decide to quit.

Thanks for posting on YC as it is so much easier for me to access and post. I'm hoping to have high speed by May now and hopefully that will solve the time factor.

moldlady

[confused]

Moldlady.

I know i wish i could think of something to substitute my pot, but at least im eating the organic ones lol. I do make a very small one. I have to have some sort of carb every day cause i have 5 kids to chase after all day. I know once summer comes and we have an farmers market i will be able to eat even better and i eat lots of salads in the summer, but i cant eat many in the winter lol.

Does anyone know if we can have the tinkyada pasta since it is brown rice, in not sure what i would do with it since spaghetti sauce is out, but maybe if we can eat that i can just do pasta and shrimp or something, or even use the pasta in place of my potato.

paula

[Flor]

Thanks everyone for all the good info!

A couple of questions:

Is anyone else taking Threelac or VSL3 for probiotic?

I'd like to look into the human probiotic you mention Moldlady -- is there a website?

The YC website: that link takes you to a login page. If you aren't already a member, is it too late to join, then?

Be well!

Florence

[confused]

Thanks everyone for all the good info!

A couple of questions:

Is anyone else taking Threelac or VSL3 for probiotic?

I'd like to look into the human probiotic you mention Moldlady -- is there a website?

The YC website: that link takes you to a login page. If you aren't already a member, is it too late to join, then?

Be well!

Florence

hi florence,

Im not taking any of those at the moment, i was thinking of taking therelac but havent yet.

That link sent me right into the forums, i never did try to post tho. Hmm will look at that and see.

paula

[aprilh]

Hi Catesfolly and Paula,

I did use Threelac at one time (i think theralac is similar?) and then afterwards I learned of the dangers for some people taking soil based organisms. I now stick with only human based. Natren and Healthy Trinity are 2 that I know that are good. Open Original Shared Link

I am not sure if you can join YC or not. They shut it down supposedly. Were you able to view and read the posts?

Paula, As far as the potato goes, at least make sure you peel it. Sometimes it can be moldy on the outside.

I do eat Tinkyada brown rice pasta. I do it in small quantities. I make my own spaghetti sauce by using Muir Glen crushed tomatoes (2 large cans) and add plenty of fresh garlic, oregano, basil, parsley, salt and pepper. This is better than any sauce in the jar and no sugar added. You can find premades in the jar with no sugar, you just have to read the labels. But this recipe is really easy. I make turkey meatballs to go in it. The kids like that.

I guess too much tomatoes in general might not be good, but like I said I do a small portion and make some zucchini to go on the side. What is really good is to cut the zucchini's in half and rub olive oil on them. Then salt, cayenne, red pepper flakes, and oregano. Then bake until ready. SO GOOD! I do asparagus and brocolli like this too.

I have another good recipe for zucchini cakes if anyone wants it!

April

[moldlady]

Hi Paula,

Potato tastes good but it is very starchy and is food for the fungus whatever kind one might have in their system. Most pastas take a longer time to become food for fungus but it usually happens in the small intestine. The potato starts turning into sugar in the mouth and the pasta makes it all the way into the small intestine before it changes into sugar. If one has digestive problems and fungus in the intestines, this could be not good. A whole grain pasta would be the best to have as it will take even longer. Do you see what I'm getting at ? You must go slow and try and see. I hope it works for you. I think you mentioned brown rice pasta? If I were to try something, that would probably be the choice. Find one with some good spices in it or put in your own as this stuff can really be a bummer to the tastes buds if they are not expecting it.

Hi Forence,

I have a friend that uses 3lac and likes it very much. The trouble with it is that you have to keep taking it to keep the probiotics at a constant. Most probiotics are not human strain and will recognize that this is not their real home and will be gone in 3 days usually.

Natren.com is the company that makes the Heathy Trinity and many other probiotics that are all human strain. The goal is to have these guys implant and then you don't have to take them anymore. If one has long term fungal issues than it will take time to get the deep seeded fungus out. Also, if one has heavy metal issues it takes years to get that out or under control. Both of these conditions require that you constantly take probiotics until the walls of the intestine are receptive to the good guys. That's me.... heavy metals and deep seeded fungus.

YC: I do not know about the log in procedure and if it is still in place. One would have to try and see. That would be a bummer if you could not respond to the rest of us.

I will always be known as the moldlady

[moldlady]

Hi Again,

I see that April is here and we must have posted nearly at the same times as I did not see her post originally.

Great suggestions April! I did not know that 3lac is soil based organisms. Yes, they can be opportunistic and change into parasites if one has a weakened immune system. It is very hard to keep track these days with all the gene splicing going on in the industry and probiotics. Nothing is what it used to be anymore. I personally like using the old fashioned "real thing" whether it be your own fermented saurkraut or yogurt from known cultures.

I also started to get hungry when April suggested the meal suggestions. Wonderful!

moldlady

[confused]

Hi Catesfolly and Paula,

I did use Threelac at one time (i think theralac is similar?) and then afterwards I learned of the dangers for some people taking soil based organisms. I now stick with only human based. Natren and Healthy Trinity are 2 that I know that are good. Open Original Shared Link

I am not sure if you can join YC or not. They shut it down supposedly. Were you able to view and read the posts?

Paula, As far as the potato goes, at least make sure you peel it. Sometimes it can be moldy on the outside.

I do eat Tinkyada brown rice pasta. I do it in small quantities. I make my own spaghetti sauce by using Muir Glen crushed tomatoes (2 large cans) and add plenty of fresh garlic, oregano, basil, parsley, salt and pepper. This is better than any sauce in the jar and no sugar added. You can find premades in the jar with no sugar, you just have to read the labels. But this recipe is really easy. I make turkey meatballs to go in it. The kids like that.

I guess too much tomatoes in general might not be good, but like I said I do a small portion and make some zucchini to go on the side. What is really good is to cut the zucchini's in half and rub olive oil on them. Then salt, cayenne, red pepper flakes, and oregano. Then bake until ready. SO GOOD! I do asparagus and brocolli like this too.

I have another good recipe for zucchini cakes if anyone wants it!

April

Could i make like an sauce with real tomatoes, i dont think i can find those kind of tomatoes here. It would only be for me to have like for a side every once in a while.

I am not having a good morning, my stomach is a rumbling and feeling odd and i cant leave the bathroom for very long periods of time and i just feel so tired, could i be herxing or is my body just freaking out today.

paula

[confused]

Hi Paula,

Potato tastes good but it is very starchy and is food for the fungus whatever kind one might have in their system. Most pastas take a longer time to become food for fungus but it usually happens in the small intestine. The potato starts turning into sugar in the mouth and the pasta makes it all the way into the small intestine before it changes into sugar. If one has digestive problems and fungus in the intestines, this could be not good. A whole grain pasta would be the best to have as it will take even longer. Do you see what I'm getting at ? You must go slow and try and see. I hope it works for you. I think you mentioned brown rice pasta? If I were to try something, that would probably be the choice. Find one with some good spices in it or put in your own as this stuff can really be a bummer to the tastes buds if they are not expecting it.

I will always be known as the moldlady

ok i will try to give up my potato, it will be hard tho but i will at least try for only 2-3 times a week, i cant give up my friend all the way yet lol. I love brown rice pasta, even my family loves it.

paula

[dlp252]

Natren.com is the company that makes the Heathy Trinity and many other probiotics that are all human strain. The goal is to have these guys implant and then you don't have to take them anymore. If one has long term fungal issues than it will take time to get the deep seeded fungus out. Also, if one has heavy metal issues it takes years to get that out or under control. Both of these conditions require that you constantly take probiotics until the walls of the intestine are receptive to the good guys. That's me.... heavy metals and deep seeded fungus.

Hum, I used to take the Healthy Trinity...maybe I should start that up again. I did like it, but stopped taking it because it was a little on the expensive side (that was years ago). Now I'm taking SOOOO many supplements, what's one more, lol. I was just tested on Saturday (via BioSET) and my candida issues were HUGE, and I have to admit I haven't been sticking to the diet, so it's time to get serious AGAIN, and the BioSET practitioner wants me on a probiotic, so this was a timely post!

[moldlady]

Hum, I used to take the Healthy Trinity...maybe I should start that up again. I did like it, but stopped taking it because it was a little on the expensive side (that was years ago). Now I'm taking SOOOO many supplements, what's one more, lol. I was just tested on Saturday (via BioSET) and my candida issues were HUGE, and I have to admit I haven't been sticking to the diet, so it's time to get serious AGAIN, and the BioSET practitioner wants me on a probiotic, so this was a timely post!

Donna,

Most of the people in the world have fungus/yeast in their systems and do not realize it. Good thing that you KNOW and can do what it takes to get rid of it.

YES, they are expensive and I always have some on hand. But that is also the reason that I culture my own as it really stretches the cost big time. But most people do not want to take the time and the bother. I think I posted this for April and she is going to give it a try. If you already have your own yogurt maker it is easy. I just do my own thing.

Warning: if you have huge digestive fungus know that when you take HT and it has been a while you may get die off. Go slow and easy and know that if you do get it, it is pushing out the fungus. Take it when you know you will be home for some time to be sure stay close to a bathroom if you get my drift? Not trying to scare you or anything just to know is better than being surprised.

Paula,

Good for you. At least give it a try and see. If you feel better then you have hit on something big. We all do things in steps.... trying to get there.... Me too. I'm with you. I've got some big challenges just waiting for me too. I'm giving up the eggs. Except for my probiotic, my goal is to be completely plant based diet and restrictive in the gluten area and not feeding fungus. I can almost cry now just thinking about it. Training the body to do what you know will make it well is tough. I hope this doesn't turn you off but I pray that the Lord will help me and you make these changes and battle the cravings.

moldlady

[aprilh]

Could i make like an sauce with real tomatoes, i dont think i can find those kind of tomatoes here. It would only be for me to have like for a side every once in a while.

I am not having a good morning, my stomach is a rumbling and feeling odd and i cant leave the bathroom for very long periods of time and i just feel so tired, could i be herxing or is my body just freaking out today.

paula

Yes, you can use real tomatoes and in fact during the summer I just blend up our home grown tomatoes and freeze them for that purpose. But if you can't find good fresh ones right now, the canned ones are fine. Just make sure there aren't ingredients added. You can find other brands of tomatoes besides Muir Glen - I just like those. Be sure to get crushed tomatoes. The only other ingredient I have seen added is citric acid (vitamin C) which I think is okay.

Did you eat something out of norm? Or start any supplements? There is a stomach virus going around.....If you have any probiotics this might be a good time to take some and see if it helps.

[aprilh]

Great suggestions April! I did not know that 3lac is soil based organisms. Yes, they can be opportunistic and change into parasites if one has a weakened immune system. It is very hard to keep track these days with all the gene splicing going on in the industry and probiotics. Nothing is what it used to be anymore. I personally like using the old fashioned "real thing" whether it be your own fermented saurkraut or yogurt from known cultures.

moldlady

I am pretty sure there are some soil based in the 3lac. I'll have to double check that fact, but seems like I remember a lot of posts about it on YC and the "experienced" Yeasters said to avoid it.

I'll do some research and get back....

[confused]

Yes, you can use real tomatoes and in fact during the summer I just blend up our home grown tomatoes and freeze them for that purpose. But if you can't find good fresh ones right now, the canned ones are fine. Just make sure there aren't ingredients added. You can find other brands of tomatoes besides Muir Glen - I just like those. Be sure to get crushed tomatoes. The only other ingredient I have seen added is citric acid (vitamin C) which I think is okay.

Did you eat something out of norm? Or start any supplements? There is a stomach virus going around.....If you have any probiotics this might be a good time to take some and see if it helps.

Ok i will look this week for some canned tomatoes that are safe. I cant wait til summer for all the homegrown stuff. I nthink i need to redo my backyard and find an way to grow my own stuff and make it organic. Ill save so much money.

Well i feel better now after i drank my lemon water, so who knows. I didnt change what i ate.

paula

[dlp252]

YES, they are expensive and I always have some on hand. But that is also the reason that I culture my own as it really stretches the cost big time. But most people do not want to take the time and the bother. I think I posted this for April and she is going to give it a try. If you already have your own yogurt maker it is easy. I just do my own thing.

Warning: if you have huge digestive fungus know that when you take HT and it has been a while you may get die off. Go slow and easy and know that if you do get it, it is pushing out the fungus. Take it when you know you will be home for some time to be sure stay close to a bathroom if you get my drift? Not trying to scare you or anything just to know is better than being surprised.

Well I have my own yogurt maker, but have never used it, lol. I bought it to try making yogurt out of coconut milk, but just got too lazy, lol. I'll go slow with the HT...I definitely have the digestive issues too.

[moldlady]

If you ever get to that point where you want to culture it yourself and really get your monies worth. JLMK

moldlady

[dlp252]

Well, I REALLY miss yogurt, so I may actually want to when the weather gets warmer.

[confused]

Well, I REALLY miss yogurt, so I may actually want to when the weather gets warmer.

Oh i miss yogurt to, is there a way to make it with coconut milk that would be safe when u are gcsf and on this diet lol. If so that is one thing i would experiment to make lol

paula

[aprilh]

Oh i miss yogurt to, is there a way to make it with coconut milk that would be safe when u are gcsf and on this diet lol. If so that is one thing i would experiment to make lol

paula

Good question paula! Let me know how that goes. I did hear of a recipe to make coconut ice cream and that's what I want to make! as soon as I get an ice cream maker.

[dlp252]

There is an old thread somewhere here about making coconut milk yogurt...I'll see if I can find it. The person ended up having to use gelatin I think...that may be the only iffy ingredient. I think at the time I wasn't sure that the yogurt starter would be safe because it was cultured on dairy.

[moldlady]

If you are allergic to milk protein then dairy is a big no no. It is easy to culture saurkraut and it is healthy bacteria.

I do the dairy because it supports the human bacteria the best. I don't like using dairy but a spoonful a night is not that much.

I have never tried soy or coconut fermentation. Let me know if that works for you.

moldlady

[Green12]

Good question paula! Let me know how that goes. I did hear of a recipe to make coconut ice cream and that's what I want to make! as soon as I get an ice cream maker.

Rachel got an ice cream maker a year or so ago, it was all the rage! We all wanted to run out and get one to make our own ice creams free of unpure ingretients

I remember a few people successfully making their ice creams with coconut milk.

About the yogurt, I hear keffir is suppose to be good stuff- it's not as thick as yogurt but it might be a close enough substitution.

Keffir is a fermented product, I read a lot about it in the Body Ecology books.

[confused]

I just wanted to thank whoever talked about avacadoes, i never ate them plain just smashd for guac. well today i cut one up and had it with my eggs for lunch and it was so good.

Can we eat one every day or is that too much fat, if we can that might be my replacement for my potatoe lol.

paula

[Green12]

Can we eat one every day or is that too much fat, if we can that might be my replacement for my potatoe lol.

paula

Avocadoes are a healthy fat.

I eat 1/8-1/4 of one almost everyday sliced up on my sandwich wrap.

[confused]

Avocadoes are a healthy fat.

I eat 1/8-1/4 of one almost everyday sliced up on my sandwich wrap.

What do u put in ur sandwhich wrap, i havent thought of that, im assuming u wrap it in lettuce.

I just had brown rice for the very first time with some salmon, it wasnt to bad at all.

paula