Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Pas Type 3


2kids4me

Recommended Posts

2kids4me Contributor

Well i finally got the results back on my daughter ...they did genetic tests in June.

HLA-DRB1 *04 and DQB1*302. Statement by geneticist: HLA subtyping shows that she does have 2 subtypes associated with Type III polyglandular autoimmune syndrome. Of course HLA typing is not diagnostic for this condition but does lend support to the diagnosis...they go on to say that she is at increased risk for Addison disease even though it is not part of type III - she can convert ot type II if it develops.

My understanding is that she is at risk for more autoimmune illness and it may explain why low dose aspirin keeps her feeleing well - although lately she always says her "glands hurt" and her mouth is dry....the "glands" she says hurt - are her salivary glands....sigh

More trips to pediatrician..

She is only 15 but already as seen more doctors than most 60 yr olds!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



ravenwoodglass Mentor

Sandy are they using this finding to tell you she can't have celiac and that she doesn't need the diet? Her gene is real close to one of the ones I carry. Has she gone gluten free yet? Has it helped any?

DQBI*0302 is a recognized celiac gene in Europe, I wonder if they are talking about the same gene but just with an extra 0? This is an excerpt from the following link:

Open Original Shared Link

"Genetic susceptibility to celiac disease is strongly associated with HLA-DQA1*05-DQB1*02 (DQ2) and HLA-DQA1*03-DQB1*0302 (DQ8)"

2kids4me Contributor

No, they know she is celiac - she was confirmed celiac by endoscopy and has been gluten free since. This test was to confirm suspicion of susceptibility to a specific cluster of autoimmune diseases known as PAS III. This way, if she were to have vague ongoing symtpoms that do not point to a specific illness - there would be certain diseases they would test for.....that would not normally be checked in a teenager / young woman.

from : Open Original Shared Link

PAS III can be further classified into the following 3 subcategories:

PAS IIIA - Autoimmune thyroiditis with immune-mediated diabetes (IMD) mellitus (type 1 diabetes mellitus)

PAS IIIB - Autoimmune thyroiditis with PA

PAS IIIC - Autoimmune thyroiditis with vitiligo and/or alopecia and/or other organ-specific autoimmune disease

PAS III is associated with the following diseases:

Organ-specific autoimmune diseases

Celiac disease

Hypogonadism

Myasthenia gravis

Organ nonspecific or systemic autoimmune diseases

Sarcoidosis

Sj

ravenwoodglass Mentor
No, they know she is celiac - she was confirmed celiac by endoscopy and has been gluten free since. This test was to confirm suspicion of susceptibility to a specific cluster of autoimmune diseases known as PAS III. This way, if she were to have vague ongoing symtpoms that do not point to a specific illness - there would be certain diseases they would test for.....that would not normally be checked in a teenager / toung woman.

from : Open Original Shared Link

Thanks for posting that link, it looks like something I will find interesting to delve into further. I do so love researching stuff. :D

It sounds like she has a good group of doctors that are being proactive and thorough that is a good thing.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      127,708
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Sylvia G
    Newest Member
    Sylvia G
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121k
    • Total Posts
      70.4k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • RMJ
      I’d say celiac is likely.  Please continue to eat plenty of gluten until your endoscopy to be sure that any gluten-related damage can be seen.  Plus it gives you one last chance to enjoy your favorite gluten-containing foods. I hope the endoscopy/biopsies give you a definitive answer. 
    • TexasCeliacNewbie
      I do also have the bloating, gas, constipation, hair loss, an auto-splenectomy that no one can see any reason for and some elevated liver enzymes that don't seem to have a cause, I also have joint pain and some spinal compression fractures that have no explanation.  I am only 42 so haven't had a bone density test yet.  My calcium was normal, but my D was a little low.  They haven't checked for any other vitamin deficiencies yet.  My blood test for an autoimmue disorder was quite high but my Thyroid was all normal.
    • TexasCeliacNewbie
      Hi, I have been having a lot of back pain and gut issues for 8 weeks or so.  I saw the GI on Monday and my results just came in from the lab.  Some of these number are high and off the little chart from the lab.  I am reading this correctly that I most likely have Celiac, right???  It would explain a lot of things for me.  She does have me scheduled for a colonoscopy and endoscopy in  2 weeks to do the biopsy.  I posted this prior, but forgot to put the range assuming they were all the same.  Someone advised me to repost with the ranges for some insight in the meantime. Immunoglobulin A, Qn, Serum 140 (normal) - Normal is 87-352 Deamidated Gliadin Abs, IgA 256 (High) - Moderate to strong positive at or above 30 Deamidated Gliadin Abs, IgG 65 (High) - Moderate to strong positive at or above 30 t-Transglutaminase (tTG) IgA 31 (High) - Moderate to strong positive above 10 t-Transglutaminase (tTG) IgG 10 (High) - Positive is at or above 10
    • trents
      Usually, the blood testing is done first and the endoscopy/biopsy follows for confirmation if there are positive antibody test scores. Historically, the endoscopy with biopsy has been considered to be the gold standard for diagnosing celiac disease. If the tTG-IGA scores are very high (5x-10x normal), some doctors will forego the endoscpoy/biopsy and grant a celiac disease diagnosis without it. So, if you are starting with the endoscopy/biopsy that may be all you need to arrive at a diagnosis. Another possibility would be for the GI doc to do a blood draw for antibody testing on the same day you come in for the endoscopy/biopsy.
    • AuntieAutoimmune
      Thanks,Scott. Yes, I had already seen those 
×
×
  • Create New...