Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Negative Blood Test?


cdog7

Recommended Posts

cdog7 Contributor

I posted here a while back before I had my blood test


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Helen Kendrick Newbie
I posted here a while back before I had my blood test
Lisa Mentor

Open Original Shared Link

You might find this interesting. These blood tests can rule celiac IN but cannot rule it OUT. They are well known not to be 100% reliable.

You can follow-up with an endoscopy/biopsy or confirm by a positive dietary response. And, many people here have had gene testing, which will not confirm Celiac, but can inform you of a predisposition.

Twenty percent of individuals with Celiac will pass it on to first degree relatives.

If you are frustrated with the continued medical dismissal, try the diet and if it works for you...great.

lizard00 Enthusiast

Did you get a copy of your bloodtest? Mine was normal too, until I realized that my IgA was seriously low. The normal range began at around 80 MGL, mine was 19. That article posted by Momma Goose shows that a low IgA alone can be a marker for Celiac. So, get your test results if you don't already. Then you can see for yourself the total picture.

As I said, my result was negative. I know better. I know that when I unknowingly ingest a small amount of gluten or am CC'd (which happened to me this past weekend), it makes me overall feel tired, lethargic, just totally out of it. So believe me, you can most definitely be negative blood test and definitely reactive be Celiac. There are sooo many of us on this board.

I am glad to hear though, that you changed doctors. Many of them are truly misinformed.

happygirl Collaborator

Definitely need to get a copy of your results so that you can tell which tests were run.

cdog7 Contributor
Open Original Shared Link

You might find this interesting. These blood tests can rule celiac IN but cannot rule it OUT. They are well known not to be 100% reliable.

You can follow-up with an endoscopy/biopsy or confirm by a positive dietary response. And, many people here have had gene testing, which will not confirm Celiac, but can inform you of a predisposition.

Twenty percent of individuals with Celiac will pass it on to first degree relatives.

If you are frustrated with the continued medical dismissal, try the diet and if it works for you...great.

That really is interesting. I do know that he just did an antibody test. I didn't have the highest confidence when the nurses performing it had to dig out a giant textbook to figure out what he'd asked them to do. I honestly felt like he was just pandering to me, not really trying to diagnose. I definitely plan to start the diet as soon as I can -- for now just having an occasional day that's gluten-free is nice. Thanks!

cdog7 Contributor
Definitely need to get a copy of your results so that you can tell which tests were run.

Good idea!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



jayhawkmom Enthusiast
That really is interesting. I do know that he just did an antibody test.

Another interesting thing.... when I had my blood tests done, my antibody levels were highly elevated. Yet, my ALLERGIST told me that there was no way I had Celiac, and that the antibody tests were pointless. (Then....why run them?)

Incidentally, my GI said that elevated antibodies indicates *something* going wrong... regardless as to whether it's true Celiac or not.

WHY, oh WHY can't they all get on the same page?????

ravenwoodglass Mentor

Don't rely on those blood tests. You can't even really rely on the endo either, it can be hit and miss and while both tests can say for sure that you have celiac neither can say for sure that you don't. The true test is how you feel on the gluten-free diet. You don't need a doctors permission to eat gluten free. There are gene tests but they also can be problematical because there are only 2 genes that are considered celiac genes in the US. If you have one of the other celiac related genes instead you will be told that you don't have the genes and can not possibly be celiac. Gene testing is in it's infancy and not all the genes related to celiac are recognized as such. My gene for example is considered a RA gene here, which I did have all the symptoms of. However it wasn't drug therapy that I needed but a gluten-free diet. If my genes had been tested before diagnosis I would still be suffering needlessly, living off meds that did nothing for the pain. Because it is so important to remember I will say it again, it is your response to the diet that is most diagnostic.

lizzy Apprentice
Don't rely on those blood tests. You can't even really rely on the endo either, it can be hit and miss and while both tests can say for sure that you have celiac neither can say for sure that you don't. The true test is how you feel on the gluten-free diet. You don't need a doctors permission to eat gluten free. There are gene tests but they also can be problematical because there are only 2 genes that are considered celiac genes in the US. If you have one of the other celiac related genes instead you will be told that you don't have the genes and can not possibly be celiac. Gene testing is in it's infancy and not all the genes related to celiac are recognized as such. My gene for example is considered a RA gene here, which I did have all the symptoms of. However it wasn't drug therapy that I needed but a gluten-free diet. If my genes had been tested before diagnosis I would still be suffering needlessly, living off meds that did nothing for the pain. Because it is so important to remember I will say it again, it is your response to the diet that is most diagnostic.

Dear ravenwoodglass

i want to thank you for your post i was looking for simurla answers about weather or not to stay gluten free after never having a positive blood test, but after reading this post it brought back all the memories of just how sick i got and how much staying away from gluten made me feel better.

your right if you feel better after staying away from gluten then thats the proof in the pudding alone. thanks liz

ksymonds84 Enthusiast

So he finally gave me the blood test, and it came back negative. Now he says there is "no chance" I have it, based only on that, and the fact that he insists that if I had celiac, I'd be losing weight rapidly and anemic. I actually put in a complaint to my insurance company about him and changed doctors. I hope someone learns something out of all this, because it was obvious this guy had no recent info about celiac, and I didn't trust my health to him.

So now I have a negative blood test, which I hear can happen even if you have it. I'm hoping that with all my symptoms and having a celiac-positive mother, my new doctor will still refer me to a GI so I can still get the other test(s). What does it mean if your blood test is negative (or as my doctor put it, "relatively normal")? Is there any reason I should try getting it done again? Or should I just go for the endoscopy?

I'm having a harder and harder time keeping up the regular diet (with gluten added), keep getting sick after I eat bread, etc., but I don't want to screw up the diagnosis by healing myself before my tests! Eep. Any advice or sympathy is appreciated. :)

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      127,960
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    jujubean
    Newest Member
    jujubean
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121k
    • Total Posts
      70.5k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Because you have already had the "gold standard" test done, and because you have some experiential evidence that removing gluten from your diet causes you to feel better, it would make sense to begin the gluten-free diet as you wait for biopsy results.
    • growlinhard1
      I wasn't given any blood tests. I think I should try the gluten free diet because when I cut it out a few weeks ago for just a couple of days, I know I started feeling better. The difference was actually pretty dramatic. When I learned gluyen free earing may cause false negative biopsy results, I went back to gluten full force and feel like you know what × 10. Do you feel it would be okay since the gold standard for diagnosis is behind me or should I wait for biopsy results? In your opinion, of course. I know you can't offer me medical advice.
    • Wheatwacked
      My mom said when he was born "you got what you gave".  Until 5 years of he was gluten free, was well liked by his friends, although did get them into mischief at times, a leader of his group of friends, physically active and paid attention, as much as any preschooler.      At 5 years old we moved to my hometown and had to rely on our friends, my pediatrition (still the best doctor I ever had), my wife was a nurse so her aquaintences and doctor friends.  They all still believed back in 1980's that Celiac was a growing phase, and he wanted to be like everyone else.  So everyone's opinion was that if he tolerates gluten with no symptoms he had outgrown it.  He passed the summer at the beach (lots of vitamin D) was a prodegy swimmer and the whole team liked him and he fit in well.     Fall came, he started kindergarden school, less sun ( low vitamin D, Seasonal Affective Disorder is real), new people and a morning schedule that did not end up in a fun, active day at the beach.  Getting him going got more difficult.  By the first teacher-parent meeting in December, they brought up the subject.  He was disruptive in class.  By then we had forgotten what his doctor said 5 years earlier.  So he was diagnosed as ADHD.      Competitive swimming was his saving grace.  All though High School he continued to swim with his competetive team most days after or before school and with the beach club team in addition in the summer.  Some records he set lasted years.  After high school he became a professional ocean guard. Now getting close to retirement.  But always had difficulty concentrating on schoolwork.      He, and his wife, incidentally, is now having the health problems that I just have just gotten rid of.  I had forgotten what the doctor said to us 60 years earlier, bout Celiac Disease being hereditory.  He is starting to listen, but still in denial.  Loves his pizza.  At 63 I had arthritis, fibromyalgia, sleep apnea, enlarged prostate, alcoholism and I got dumber as the years passed.  They all are gone with gluten free and vitamin replenishment. My wife had allergies, endometriosis, fertility problems and miscarriages.  She passed 18 years ago. Sorry for the long story.  Reminds me of a Joni Mitchell song.  "L've looked at life from both sides now. From win and lose, but still somehow, it's life's illusions I recall. I really don't know life, at all"  
    • Beverage
      I feel for you. I've had an interesting history with some vaccine, especially t-DAP. One time after just getting it, I remember walking from the pharmacy to my car, reaching for the door handle of my car as my last memory, then waking up slumped into my car with the door wide open hours later. Nobody even knew I was there. I did get a bad cut from rotting rusty wood and probably animal droppings, and it had been 10 years, so I got a booster recently, but took someone with me. My doc back then did say he was concerned about my reactions to vaccines, but we never talked about what alternatives there might be. What is your risk when you do get sick? For me, I almost always end up needing prednisone and antibiotics and have to crawl back to life for months after those are done, prednisone really messes me up, raises my blood pressure to stroke levels, and the antibiotics mess up my intestines really bad. I have to take mega doses of C and D and B's, especially flush niacin, and probiotics.  So preventing flu is critical for me since I always get a long term negative effect from the treatment. I did a lot of research, traditional and alternative medicine, and they all say high vitamin D levels are crucial to so many kinds of illnesses, including flu, cancer, etc.  People with high D during covid had much better outcomes.  I always tested low in D even with high oral supplementation of D3 and K2.  So last year I saved up and bought a real vitamin D lamp, not one of those cheapie ones that you can get on Amazon that don't work, seriously, those are junk. Wow what a difference with a real D Lamp. We haven't been sick all year, which is rare for me, even after being around several sick people or people that came down sick just after visiting. I use the lamp about every other day or if I've been in a group of people or around anyone sick.  I have not yet had my D levels retested since starting with it (will do that at annual check up later this year), but I have not gotten a cold or flu (knock on wood), feel better than usual for a cold wet winter in the NorthWest, and my hair is growing in like crazy, all signs of improved vitamin D levels. It doesn't take long to use, just a few seconds and first and gradually build up. I now do it for a count of 200, which is about 3 minutes. I don't remember all the details on how the body creates its own vitamin D, but I do remember that the body makes a reaction on the skin and you don't want to wash that off for a few hours.  So I do the D Lamp right after my shower, not before.  There are 2 reputable ones that I found in my research: Sperti Vitamin D Lamp uses florescent tubes, you stand and turn in front of it, be sure to get the VITAMIN D LAMP, not the tanning lamp:  https://www.sperti.com/product/sperti-vitamin-d-light-box/ Chroma Vitamin D Lamp is LED's, you can stand and turn in front of it or hold it in your hand and wave it over your body, always keeping it moving so you don't burn:  https://getchroma.co/products/d-light-vitamin-d-light-device-uvb-red-nir AND YOU MUST WEAR SPECIFIC EYE PROTECTION WHEN USING, KEEP ALL PETS AND OTHERS AWAY, THE GLASSES ARE PROVIDED WITH THE D LAMP. I got the Chroma D Lamp when they had a huge sale last year, it's a small start-up company in Seattle.  Sperti is a larger longer term well known, and you can sign up for a 10% discount on their web site.  If Chroma had not had the sale when I was going to buy one, the Sperti would have been fine. They both often have back orders on them, but they do deliver as promised. I have read various articles on the effectiveness of the flu vaccine for example, not always highly effective every year.  Since your risk with vaccines is high, or if your risk of bad illness if you get sick is high, maybe consider how to mitigate both in another way, perhaps a D Lamp. 
    • trents
      That's what came immediately to my mind as well, Bell's palsy. And don't assume every medical problem is connected to her celiac disease as there is still something known as coincidence. Get this checked out by medical professionals and push for some serious testing. Don't let them brush you off. Be appropriately assertive.
×
×
  • Create New...