Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Lactaid Becoming Less Effective?


Sweetfudge

Recommended Posts

Sweetfudge Community Regular

i've been using lactaid fast act pretty regularly over the last couple months and wonder if i could build up an immunity to it or something? i feel like it's not working as well as it used to :( anyone have any thoughts?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



tarnalberry Community Regular

you can't build up an immunity - it's the enzyme that breaks up the milk sugar, so it's doing the work that your own enzymes would do if you produced those enzymes. but you may find that you need to increase the dosage if your body is producing less and less of your own enzyme (which can happen naturally in people as they age or in lactose-intolerant populations, which is most of them, regardless of your use of lactaid). or, it could be a developing issue with casein. one interesting note is that the body will produce less lactase when it needs less, so if it's exposed to less milk products, it will produce less of it (hence, you can have induced lactose intolerance, but it generally goes away fairly quickly once dairy is reintroduced regularly).

debmidge Rising Star

I am severely lactose intolerant....I am from a "lactose-intolerant" population.

I have been using Lactaid since it first came out 20 years ago. When it first came out it was a liquid and you dropped the enzyme into the milk carton, shook it up and waited 24 hrs for the enzyme to work. I wish they made both the drops and the pills as the drops were excellent to put into canned milk or heavy cream; lactose free canned milk or heavy cream products are still unavailable.

Anyway, I find the pills to be "pot-shot" - will work Ok, then sometimes barely work. Many foods require more than the amount of pills shown on the label.

There are some foods which no amount of Lactaid will help 100% - like cream soups, cream sauces, natural ice creams, whipped cream desserts, cheesecakes, macaroni & cheese, cream cheese and dips, yogurt, cottage cheese, items such as Cozy Shack puddings, anything with calcium lactate in it (that's why I avoid foods fortified with calcium), "pink" sauces, Risotta, egg nog, canned milk.

I've learned that the "harder" the cheese, the less lactose is in it: for example: grated cheese has lower lactose than cottage cheese.

I was found to have lactose intolerance when I was 21 (I am now 51) and as a teen and young adult I always ate dairy, drank milk regularly, etc. and I continued doing so until I was doubled over in pain every day on a regular basis.

My experience has been that despite using the theory that "that the body will produce less lactase when it needs less, so if it's exposed to less milk products, it will produce less of it (hence, you can have induced lactose intolerance, but it generally goes away fairly quickly once dairy is reintroduced regularly" as described by tarnalberry, did not work.

Unknowingly, I still kept it up as I didn't know what the gastro problem was (thought I had IBS/colitis). I still lived at home and one day my Mom and I were talking about it (she confronted me as she thought I was pregnant due to these symptoms!) and she mentioned that it could be diary, which I stopped having then and found relief. I used to drink a half pint of milk every day with my lunch - even at age 21 when I was working. My co-workers used to make fun of me - but I didn't want osteoporosis.

Yes, I reintroduced dairy numerous times using the above theory and it didn't work; over the past 30 years I tried to break the lactaid cycle using this theory and was always disappointed (and full of gas and diarrhea).

I would recommend trying to go back to diary llike tarnalberry pointed out because everyone is different and just because it didn't work out for me won't mean that it won't reverse itself for you (especially since your lactose intolerance may be temporary due to celiac). My experience is not the "be all" and "end all" but for me it's obviously permanent. But I have to say that my heritage (Italian) is known for being lactose intolerant, however they cook a lot of foods with dairy/cheese in it and I am the only child out of 4 which has this problem - my Italian parents and grandparents didn't have lactose intolerance (the other side is Scott/German/English/Irish). Go figure....

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      7

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

    2. - knitty kitty replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      49

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

    3. - catnapt replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      7

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

    4. - catnapt replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      7

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

    5. - xxnonamexx replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      49

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,368
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Klairep
    Newest Member
    Klairep
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @catnapt,  Wheat germ contains high amounts of lectins which are really hard to digest and can be irritating to the digestive tract.  They can stimulate IgG antibody production as your blood test shows.   Even beans have lectins.  You've simply eaten too many lectins and irritated your digestive tract.   You may want to allow your digestive tract to rest for a week, then start on gluten in "normal" food, not in concentrated vital wheat gluten. This explains it well: Lectins, agglutinins, and their roles in autoimmune reactivities https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25599185/
    • knitty kitty
      I take Now B-1 (100 mg) Thiamine Hydrochloride, and Amazing Formulas L-Tryptophan (1000 mg).   Both are gluten free and free of other allergens.  I've taken them for a long time and haven't had a problem with them. I take Vitamin A from BioTech called "A-25".  It's gluten and allergen free and made in the USA.  It's a powder form of Vitamin A.  I was having trouble digesting fats at one point, but found I tolerated the powder form much better and have stuck with it since.   Tryptophan and Vitamin A help heal the intestines as well as improves skin health.  I get Dermatitis Herpetiformis and eczema flairs when my stomach is upset.  So I'm healing the outside as well as the inside.   I take one 1000 mg Tryptophan before bedtime.   With the Thiamine HCl, take 100 mg to start.  If you don't notice anything, three hours later take another. You can keep increasing your dose in this manner until you do notice improvement.  Remember not to take it in the evening so it won't keep you too energized to sleep. When I first started Thiamine HCl, taking 500 mg to 1000 mg to start was recommended.  If you've been thiamine insufficient for a while, you do notice a big difference.  It's like the start of a NASCAR race: Zoom, Zoom, turn it up!   This scared or made some people uncomfortable, but it's just your body beginning to function properly, like putting new spark plugs in your engine.  I took 1000 mg all at once without food.  It kicked in beautifully, but I got a tummy ache, so take with food.  I added in Thiamine TTFD and Benfotiamine weeks later and felt like I was Formula One racing.  So cool.  You may feel worse for a couple days as your body adjusts to having sufficient thiamine.  Feels sort of like you haven't cranked your engine for a while and it backfires and sputters, but it will settle down and start purring soon enough.  Adjust your dose to what feels right for you, increasing your dose as long as you feel improvement.  You can reach a plateau, so stay there for several days, then try bumping it up again.  If no more improvements happen, you can stay at the plateau amount and experiment with increasing your Thiamine TTFD.  It's like being your own lab rat.  LoL Yes, take one Benfotiamine at breakfast and one at lunch.  Take the B Complex at breakfast. Take the TTFD at breakfast and lunch as well.  I like to take the vitamins at the beginning of meals and the NeuroMag at the end of meals.   You may want to add in some zinc.  I take Thorne Zinc 30 mg at breakfast at the beginning of the meal.   Are you getting sufficient Omega Threes?  Our brains are made up mostly of fat.  Flaxseed oil supplements, sunflower seed oil supplements (or eat the seeds themselves) can improve that.  Cooking with extra virgin olive oil, avocado oil, or coconut oil is also helpful.   @Wheatwacked likes phosphotidyl choline supplements for his Omega Threes.  He's also had dramatic health improvement by supplementing thiamine.  You're doing great!  Thank you for sharing your journey with us.  This path will smooth out.  Keep going!  
    • catnapt
      good luck! vital wheat gluten made me violently ill. I will touch the stuff ever again.  
    • catnapt
      I wouldn't consider this lucky. I can NOT tolerate the symptoms. And I googled it and I was not even getting 10 grams of gluten per day and I was extremely ill. They'd have to put me in the hospital. I'm not kidding.   I will have my first appt with a GI dr on March 4th   I will not eat gluten again - at least not on purpose   they are going to have to come up with a test that doesn't require it. 
    • xxnonamexx
      What Thiamine Hydrochloride brand do you take? Is it like the other vitamins I have added? What brand Tryptophan and amount do you take. Thanks
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.