Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Chronic Stomach Pain--while Gluten-free


healthynewman

Recommended Posts

healthynewman Newbie

Hey All,

I was diagnosed with celiac (blood and biopsy test) 2 years ago, and felt great on a gluten-free diet for one year. I then started having stomach pain (like heartburn) and abdominal discomfort the moved around and that came and went daily. I've had scopes, CT scans, and test for H. pylori and all are negative. Doctors ran out of ideas, other than acid blockers which often made symptoms worse.

I tried going on a simple foods diet to eliminate typical allergic foods (soy, dairy, etc.) and nothing seemed to help. Then the symptoms went away, more or less, for a few months. Now syptoms are back, and even more persistent (daily for over a month). I am super strict with my diet (eating non-allergenic food like rice, broccoli, spinach, sweet potatoes, hormone/ antibiotic-free chicken) and getting no relief. Dinner parties are not so fun, as I bring my own food and don't drink any alcohol or coffee.

I've also tried ranitidine for acid with no results. I feel like stress may play a factor in the symptoms, but not sure. Considering acupuncture and herbal remedies.

Thanks for letting me rant--I am really frustrated. I appreciate any advice.

Kurt

diagnosed 9/06 celiac

biopsy/blood


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Ursa Major Collaborator

Kurt, you may have LOW stomach acid, which obviously acid blockers would make only worse. Try eating more protein and fat for a while, along with very low carbohydrate intake.

Your problem may be that you eat too many high-carb gluten-free replacement foods. They will cause me to have acid reflux as well.

Open Original Shared Link

ShayFL Enthusiast

You could also test with HCL tablets. Take 1 with a protein meal and see if you feel better or no response at all. If you feel better, you can take them for while until your body readjusts. If you get no response, next meal take 2. You will know you have taken too much if your stomach burns a bit and you taste acid. Simply drink some baking soda (1 tsp) in warm water to make that go away.

This happened to me years ago and the HCL was a lifesaver. I had to take 3 with any protein meal. Over time I gradually reduced until I discontinued. No symptoms eating protein.

Do not take with carbohydrate only meals.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

I have been under a great deal of stress lately and started getting really severe pains mostly right sided pain even when I just drank water. I don't know if it would help you but I went back to my digestive enzymes and it helped with the first dose. I tried some pepto, the thing I usually take for stomach pain and it didn't help at all that is why I did a last ditch clutching at straws trip back to enzymes. I was actually surprised that it helped and don't know if it would help you but thought it worth mentioning.

jaten Enthusiast

Healthynewman,

Has your doctor considered performing a capsule endoscopy (pill cam)? Our histories/symptoms are not exact but remarkably similar.

Because of renewed symptoms I had colonoscopy/endoscopy a few weeks ago. The endoscopy biopsy showed sprue damage (villous atrophy) even though I have been strictly gluten free for 2 1/2 years. (Lab work verified that I am successfully gluten free through an absence of antigliadin antibodies at this time.)

Earlier this week, I had a capsule endoscopy so that my dr. could view the 20-25 feet of small intestine that can't be reached with a scope.

Just a thought....

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular

Not to scare you or anything, but celiacs are at higher risk (especially if undiagnosed for a long period of time) for B-cell lymphoma. Did your doctor already rule that out?

Many people here have issues either on top of celiac, or that cause gluten intolerance, such as Lyme Disease, mercury toxicity, and systemic yeast infections.

The capsule endoscopy sounds like a good idea.

I'm sorry you're not feeling well--hope it gets better soon!

shanluts Apprentice
Hey All,

I was diagnosed with celiac (blood and biopsy test) 2 years ago, and felt great on a gluten-free diet for one year. I then started having stomach pain (like heartburn) and abdominal discomfort the moved around and that came and went daily. I've had scopes, CT scans, and test for H. pylori and all are negative. Doctors ran out of ideas, other than acid blockers which often made symptoms worse.

I tried going on a simple foods diet to eliminate typical allergic foods (soy, dairy, etc.) and nothing seemed to help. Then the symptoms went away, more or less, for a few months. Now syptoms are back, and even more persistent (daily for over a month). I am super strict with my diet (eating non-allergenic food like rice, broccoli, spinach, sweet potatoes, hormone/ antibiotic-free chicken) and getting no relief. Dinner parties are not so fun, as I bring my own food and don't drink any alcohol or coffee.

I've also tried ranitidine for acid with no results. I feel like stress may play a factor in the symptoms, but not sure. Considering acupuncture and herbal remedies.

Thanks for letting me rant--I am really frustrated. I appreciate any advice.

Kurt

diagnosed 9/06 celiac

biopsy/blood

Hey there...any results???

I have been gluten-free for 1.5 years. I have been miserable this past week. Pain, burning, nausea and headache. I have taken Prevacid, Zofran (nauseau) NOTHING helps. I feel weak and fatigued.

I am grasping for straws!

Shannon


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



ShayFL Enthusiast

Shannon...could you have picked up a bug?

  • 4 weeks later...
healthynewman Newbie

Hey Shannon,

I've appreciated all of the feedback from many people. I am going to talk with a naturopath here in Portland today and get some guidance. I have limited my diet down to rice, quinoa, brocolli and a couple other items. No luck though. I am taking probiotics and trying other avenues, but I really don't have a solid game plan yet.

Keep talking with others, and arm yourself with info. And be your own advocate when you see doctors. That's my advice for you today. Good Luck and keep positive,

Kurt

Hey there...any results???

I have been gluten-free for 1.5 years. I have been miserable this past week. Pain, burning, nausea and headache. I have taken Prevacid, Zofran (nauseau) NOTHING helps. I feel weak and fatigued.

I am grasping for straws!

Shannon

Katester Enthusiast

I had the exact same problem and still kind of do but it's getting better. My doctor figured out that my body was starving and wasn't getting enough food. My stomach isn't used to having the normal amount of food in it which means whenever I eat anything it has a hard time processing the food. If I eat more than usual, I feel horrible. I don't know if this could be possible for you also but it's just a thought. Ensures have helped a ton. Hope you feel better!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      128,878
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Donna petrie
    Newest Member
    Donna petrie
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.1k
    • Total Posts
      71.3k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Thanks for sharing, Karen. Certainly a needed reminder what we already knew (and I've posted many times on this forum) but sometimes forget, namely, autoimmune disorders tend to cluster. Where one is found, you can look for others to show up eventually. The thing that is unusual in your son's case is the onset of several of them at such a young age. My sister in law, who is in her early 60's has Crohn's and struggles with constipation so I don't think that is unusual with Crohn's. If nothing else, it's the outcome of not eating much because of the pain. Now that you know what is going on with your son and the Crohn's, we hope he is beginning to improve.
    • Nathan.
      Hi there. My son is turning 16 this month. He had an endoscopy and biopsy to confirm celiac. He went gluten-free and his pain never got any better. I think it got worse. Months went by. The pain started around 7th grade. He missed a lot of school in 8th grade, and a whole lot in 9th grade. He couldn't go to school in 10th grade. All along the gastroenterologist prescribed Hyoscyamine, didn't help at all. Cyproheptadine, no less pain. Peppermint oil, ginger, Miralax, Senna. Doc said he was constipated, but I couldn't get him to have Miralax daily. Eventually he went on Linzess and no senna or Miralax. Sorry this is long, there will be a point.  We gave his school not just a doctors not, but everything, and U of M makes a lot of notes. They still turned us in for Truancy.  I didn't get him enrolled in online school fast enough.  The school would not recommend an online school and i didn't know which one to choose.  Doc thought it was nerve pain and mental. He recommended the u of m my pain program.  Nathan did so good, 3 days a week supposed to be for 4 weeks.  Never missed, always on time.   After two weeks, they discharged him. Said it was not  benefitting him.  Pain went on. I had been asking if there were any other test they could do. Ultrasound, colonoscopy. Doc said we can do it, but I don't think we'll find anything.  Finally he had a colonoscopy and another endoscopy.  Guess what, they did find something. They found a ton of tiny ulcers everywhere, from the esophagus to his rectum. They think Crohn's. I understand they didn't check for that because he was more constipated, not much diarrhea. He is getting an MRI with contrast on Sunday. Also they want him to do a cal-protectin (give a poop sample). Then an appointment on the 16th to talk about treatment. Then the probation officer on the 17th. In the meantime he is taking Budesonide extended release.  $276.00 for 30 pills, and that's with insurance. Also he was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism, Graves disease a few months ago. If it is for sure Crohn's,  it will be three autoimmune diseases. If someone is gluten-free for a month or more, and the pain is no better, don't stop looking. I was beside myself. Did they think he was exaggerating, lying? I was considering taking him to a holistic doctor, who would probably recommend Peppermint oil and ginger.  He's such a good kid. Kind of an introvert. He was on the 9th grade soccer team. He would try to go to practice and kept having to stop, the pain was that bad. Every time he ate, it didn't matter what, gluten-free chicken tenders, mac and cheese, pizza, ice cream, all gluten-free, he would eat a normal amount but stop and say, I can't eat anymore, my stomach hurts.  If anyone reads all this, thank you. I had a gut feeling, no pun intended, that he had an additional problem. They found celiac and stopped looking. If you don't feel better, keep on your doctor to check further, keep looking.   Take care, Karen  
    • Scott Adams
      Most likely cross-contamination I believe.
    • cristiana
      I think it takes different people different amounts of time, but in my own case I had pain,  bloating and loose stools for some time, exacerbated by a lactose intolerance, which eventually went.  I would say the really bad diarrhea got better quite quickly, but the bloating pain carried on for a few months, until I was told to give up lactose for a few weeks.  That helped enormously and once I realised milk and yoghurt was the cause, after a short break I went back to lactose very gradually and felt a lot better.  Now I can tolerate it well. From Coeliac UK "The enzyme lactase is found in the brush border of the small intestine. This is why people with coeliac disease can be deficient in lactase at diagnosis. Once established on a gluten free diet, the gut is able to heal and lactose digestion returns to normal. Lactose intolerance is therefore usually temporary." So if this helps your daughter, this doesn't mean you have to give up lactose forever, especially as dairy is such a good source of calcium for growing kids.   Bear in mind you should be able to reintroduce it. As for fatigue, this can be due to vitamin and mineral deficiencies,such as iron, vitamin D and B12.  Were these levels tested?  If not, I would suggest you get them done.  If your daughter is deficient in these, it is vital you address the deficiencies, and get the tests redone in a few months, particularly the iron, because too much can be dangerous.
    • knitty kitty
      Hello,   The medication in these inhalers can cause a thiamine deficiency if used by someone already low in thiamine.  We don't absorb sufficient amounts of vitamins and minerals due to the inflammation and damage done to our villi in Celiac Disease.  Even a long term strict gluten free diet may not provide sufficient amounts of vitamins and minerals.  There are eight B vitamins that all work together.  Thiamine deficiency often shows up first because our bodies use so much of it and it can't be stored very long. Thiamine deficiency symptoms can appear in as little as three days.  Without thiamine, the other B vitamins may not be able to function properly.   Thiamine is needed to clear lactic acid accumulation caused by the inhalers: Shoshin beriberi provoked by the inhalation of salbutamol https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12951730/    Significant Lactic Acidosis from Albuterol https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5965110/ Albuterol-Induced Type B Lactic Acidosis: Not an Uncommon Finding https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7263006/ Lessons of the month 1: Salbutamol induced lactic acidosis: clinically recognised but often forgotten https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6964186/ An Overview of Type B Lactic Acidosis Due to Thiamine (B1) Deficiency https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10731935/   Thiamine has antifungal and antibacterial properties.  Thiamine helps keep Candida in check.  Thiamine helps keep SIBO in check.  Thiamine helps with black mold, Aspergillis infection.  Riboflavin helps fight Candida infection in the mouth. Riboflavin Targets the Cellular Metabolic and Ribosomal Pathways of Candida albicans In Vitro and Exhibits Efficacy against Oropharyngeal Candidiasis https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36625571/   Thiamine deficiency can make ones voice hoarse and can cause localized edema.  Niacin deficiency can make ones voice hoarse.  (Niacin deficiency and Thiamine deficiency can each cause irritability, agitation, and lability.) Hoarseness in pellagra https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21507655/ Hidden Hunger: A Pellagra Case Report https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8152714/   Anesthesia can cause B12 deficiency.  B12 deficiency can show up as mouth sores and geographic tongue, diarrhea, and dementia. Vitamin deficiency, a neglected risk factor for post-anesthesia complications: a systematic review https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11823251/ Neurologic degeneration associated with nitrous oxide anesthesia in patients with vitamin B12 deficiency https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8250714/ Subacute combined degeneration of the spinal cord following nitrous oxide anesthesia: A systematic review of cases https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30144777/ The Effect of Vitamin B12 Infusion on Prevention of Nitrous Oxide-induced Homocysteine Increase: A Double-blind Randomized Controlled Trial https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4052402/     Eating a diet that is heavy in carbohydrates can precipitate a thiamine deficiency.  As the amount of carbohydrates consumed increases, additional thiamine is needed, otherwise the carbs will be stored as fat.   Thiamine deficiency disorders: a clinical perspective https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8451766/   Hiding in Plain Sight: Modern Thiamine Deficiency https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8533683/   The deficiency symptoms of some of the B vitamins cause gastrointestinal symptoms that resemble the same symptoms as when being glutened.   Thiamine deficiency can present as vomiting, diarrhea and abdominal pain (Gastrointestinal Beriberi).  Niacin deficiency can present as diarrhea (Pellagra = diarrhea, dermatitis, dementia, then death ).  B12 deficiency can present as diarrhea or dementia.  Not everything is caused by hidden gluten.  Gluten free processed foods are not required to be enriched with vitamins lost in processing like gluten containing foods are. Blood tests are not accurate measurements of vitamin levels, but do talk to your doctor and nutritionist about supplementing with the eight B vitamins, Vitamin C, the four fat soluble vitamins and minerals like magnesium.  Your physician can give you a shot of B12 before anesthesia administration.   By the way, Celiac Disease genes have been traced back to having originated in Neanderthals.  I'm not a singing teacher on the net.  I earned a degree in Microbiology after studying nutrition because I wanted to know what vitamins are doing inside the body.  I've experienced nutritional deficiencies myself. Hope this helps!  Keep us posted on your progress!
×
×
  • Create New...