Jump to content
  • You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

Life After Wheat Flour


FoxersArtist

Recommended Posts

FoxersArtist Contributor

As some of my previous posts have indicated, I have been fairly entertained by the idea of making gluten free foods of all different kinds. Eating new foods that I never thought to try before has been an adventure I am happy to have found, and obviously, feeling better is a big part of that.

Recently I had been having a lot of stress in my life and my anxiety triggered a pretty big episode of Colitis which is finally disappearing. Unlike some people who get colitis, mine never seems to be diet related unless I had a psychotic break and started gobbling down lumps of wheat flour dough which would be sure to give me a reaction. But because I don't really have a death wish, I know that in fact my colitis occurs when I have forgotten that little paper baggy to breath into when life gets rough.

So today I decided to reward myself (for making it through the chaos alive) by baking some cookies. Anyone who knows me knows that I can't follow a recipe to save my life. I would rather just throw a bunch of stuff in a bowl and hope it turns out to be edible. One of my first childhood experiences in the kitchen (when my mom was distracted enough not to pay me any mind) started out as an ellaborate plan to make a pear pie. I had never had a pear pie before (and there is likely a reason for this) but thought surely that if I could think it up, it could be done (a downfall that still plauges me to this day.) The results of my amazing recipe yeilded a pile of soggy pre made pie crust containing a messy mixture of canned pears (complete with their syrup) mixed with some fruit juice and a bunch of sugar, salt, baking soda, honey, and who knows what else. Despite the mounds of other ingredients I added, (which needless to say, added an "interesting" flavor to the "pie") the experiment did not thicken in the oven and I ended up with soggy pear pie stew. Truth be told I had no concept of how to bake a pie - crust or contents. My mission to create the worlds greatest dessert was a total flop and despite the lesson I had learned about how NOT to bake a pie, the fire in my mothers eyes when she saw what I had been up to was absolutely not worth a minute of it - knowledge, lesson learned, or otherwise. In a fit of rage my mother declaired that I was no longer allowed to experiment with anything in HER kitchen with HER food. She told me I could experiment with food when I paid the bills. I was crushed but tried to understand that we were not the wealthiest people on earth and wasting ingredients meant throwing away money.

I think that experience really stalled my desire to bake for many years until I was sure that my parents were more financially secure which did not occur until midway through my teenage-dom. This was probably the best thing anyway, since by this time I had a bit more knowledge about what was edible and what might taste good mixed together. I DID NOT attempt to recreate my pear pie, thank goodness. When my first long term relationship came into the picture, I really wanted to impress him with my cooking skills so the experimentations picked up full swing. To date I am proud to say that my biggest failure was when I attempted to make what I call "Gormet Cement Macaroni & Cheese Block." This dish was so thick and sticky that I was not able to scoop it out of the pot. No matter, I just took the hefty cheese blob to the table and hoped we could scoop some onto our plates. No go. So we tried to eat it out of the pot and after breaking a sweat to scoop a small blob of the strachy stuff into my mouth I remarked that I may have invented the worlds greatest super glue. No joke when I say that this starchy cheese brick could have held up a double-wide trailor. Just a word to the wise: never add that much flour to homemade macaroni and cheese. (See, that flour was always holding me up. I should have gotten rid of it sooner!) I think we ended up eating highly processed TV dinners that night instead.

So where was I going with this? Ah, yes! Today's experiment. I really wanted to make cookies but I was really not in the mood to make tree bark cookies (buckwheat), so I thought I would try mixing a variety of other flours to see what I could come up with. Gluten Free Pantry sells the most delicious chocolate chip cookie on earth, which has a main ingredient of tapioca flour. Forgive me for saying so, but I cannot help but think about pudding every time I hear the word "tapioca" and it blows my mind to think that you might be able to make a cookie out of it. This is likely an amazement that will never fade from my mind, and though I feared making a baked chocolate chip mush pudding (which would be entirely too similar to my pear pie) I decided to give it a go anyway.

Before continuing let me just say - gluten free batters and doughs seem to suck up 2 times as much flour as something with all purpose flour in it. Is this just me? It makes me wonder if perhaps without gluten, there is a tiny real-life vortex in my mixing bowl, sucking up the butter, eggs, and (more horrifying than anything else) the brown sugar. 1 cup tapioca flour, 1 cup rice flour, a sprinkle of xanthan gum, some more rice, more tapioca, more rice. The dough was so tacky that it wanted to fight me for the spoon and I began to wonder if this stuff had been plotting with the garbanzo bread mix in my pantry. I have never questioned the loyalty of sweet sorghum flour so I added a bit of that to the mix to stir things up a bit. Still super tacky but not as stubborn. I had reached a point where if I added any more flour I would have to dump the entire contents of the sugar canister into my batter to even out the taste, so I decided to give up, wondering if this would be one of my great failures. I could just picture the cookies melting to liquid and sizzling in the oven but what the heck? I scooped up two big blobs of chocolate chip glue and instantly recalled a college art project that involved mixing a giant vat of stucco. It wasn't until this time that I truely questioned whether or not I wanted to put this concoction in my body. In fact, I think the only redeeming factor involved was this mix also reminded me of a thicker blueberry muffin mix - and those are not only edible but very tasty too!

So how did my little experiment turn out? See for yourself!

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/F...y/GFCookies.webp

When I first peeking into the oven before they were done, I was watching the batter melt the way my pale skinned husband does pulling weeds in the yard on a hot summers day - complete with crispy burnt edges! But a few minutes later when the timer went off I was pleasantly surprised! The cookies kind of resembled tiny little barbie sized pop up tents and I quickly feared that I had gone overboard with the baking soda. To my relief the cookies instantly deflated once exposed to the cooler air and a friend reassured me over the phone that her sugar free cookies do the same thing.

I have to say that they weren't *quite* as good as those Gluten Free Pantry cookies, but then, I do not claim to be an expert either, and afterall, there was no recipe involved here. Like most cookies with rice flour in them, they sort of revert back to their doughy state once you take a bite (brings a whole new meaning to the phrase, melts in your mouth not in your hand) but wowee, it tasted like a cookie! There was much rejoicing to be done but only one delimma that always seems to be a problem for me. I didn't write anything down so how will I make them again next time? I am quite sure at this point that God is a merciful ruler and has spared me the self esteme blow of frequently creating a baking disaster, but I have no idea HOW this happens. With the way things are thrown together randomly, I'm not sure I will ever be able to accept my baking as a talent! Nevertheless, my husband always tells me that he thinks I could support us by selling my cooking skills. I didn't have the heart to tell him that others may have more developed taste buds than him.

-Anna


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



YoloGx Rookie

I like your story, very creative, and no doubt very true. I experiment too. I look at other recipes to get an idea of what to do. Then write down the ingredients and amounts as I go. It really helps to learn what does what as said. You can tinker with the recipe then. There are a number of places on the internet that have good gluten free recipes, especially cookies. One is Gluten Free Recipe Exchange--or G.I.G. at gluten.net/recipes

Bea

ShayFL Enthusiast

In my house, the saying goes....."If Mom makes something super yummy, you had better savor every bite because she will never be able to make it the same again."

Great write. I am like you. Just mix it all together and see what happens. :P

RiceGuy Collaborator

Great story! Cooking skills aside, you could certainly earn a living as a writer.

While I don't exactly throw things together, I seldom measure either, except for baking powder, xanthan, and Stevia. Once in awhile I get out the measuring cup just to see how accurately I'm eyeballing it, and so far so good. But I usually measure the large amounts of flour, like if I'm making a big loaf or something, mostly so I know the total volume. I don't follow recipes either, but I think that also came with practice. I almost always try to change things each time, just to see how it will turn out. It's a sort of fun with food that I enjoy enough to risk those rare times when something doesn't particularly turn out right. But I'm sure not being picky helps.

As for buckwheat flour, it is one of my favorites, and it makes great cookies IMO. At least the kind I've been making, including cinnamon raisin. But I have found once again that Bob's is unfortunately not good. Thus far Arrowhead Mills is the best one I've found. Makes yummy muffins and sweetbreads too :)

spunky Contributor

The cookies look great!

And, I agree, the writing style is wonderful!!!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Jmartes71 replied to Jmartes71's topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      5

      Skin issues

    2. - N Young posted a topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      0

      Frustrated with Providers

    3. - trents replied to ThomasA55's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      12

      Iron loss and potential celiac.

    4. - trents replied to MicG's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      13

      Test interpretations

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      134,116
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      10,442

    DiDi53
    Newest Member
    DiDi53
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.7k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Scott Adams
      These articles may be helpful:    
    • Jmartes71
      I went to ER on the 30th because I didn't want to wait and saw dr at desk for intake. I went for NOTHING!. ER Dr was very nice but made it seem as if I was a nut case rater than coming in for real issues calmly explaining its staph! Staph,  by look no blood test, no skin test. No looking in my nose and throat was given a prescription for jock cream and some pills ! I made the mistake of saying Im waiting on Infectious disease. She asked how did I get referral and I said I did it online.The next day I checked the status and it was denied! I did get  a referral to the dermatology office i went to last year that over charged me and did a biopsy on me stating inconclusive! I went to another dermatologist and he stated I should see Infectious disease at place i put in referral. With that I contacted that dermatologist and waiting to see if he thinks dermatology or Infectious disease is the route.I do have appointment for dermatology next week.Until then i did purchase Zahler paraGuard advance intestinal  flora support  from Sprouts. Im also very alarmed that the fact celiac isn't addressed properly infact its downplayed. When I had my son tested for HLA-DQ2 and it came out positive because he is eating everything and he is extremely skinny but he isn't dealing with severe diagestive issues because thats all he knows NOW or yet because he is still young 21.I too didn't know any difference when i was that age because thats all we know.Life changes will get him in latter years im afraid because what im dealing with.That scares me.The specialist we went to was only about congestion he is getting.He is getting congestion because he is eating what he isn't supposed too! Zero talk about celiac and HLA-DQ2 positive. Only talk was he is congested because we live in the Valley! They wanted to do surgery! I did write again to our district leader considering when I did call, the guy stated he knew all about celiac. I really wanted to tell him NO YOU DON'T but held my tongue. For my skin sores the cream given didn't do anything because ive also had in past.Ive been putting liquid vitamin c on it and taking vitamins which is making a little difference just with the last few days of doing.
    • N Young
      I have been Gluten Free for 25 years and havent eaten gluten knowingly during that time.   Such a rocky life, I have had issues since I was 16 when physicians stated I needed to see a psychiatrist. I am now 70 years old. I also had Dermatitis herpetiformis. I had negative tests on biopsy, blood test etc but no doctor mentioned that I needed to do a gluten challenge. I went on an elimination diet and found relief on the Dermatitis within a month. I have no doubt that I am celiac and very sensitive now. Now my issue is that I changed physicians due to retirement and he performed a blood test and included a celiac test. I was very upset because I did not request the test and had not been eating gluten for 25 years. Of course the test was negative.  My question - Will this cause me any issues with health treatment if my records now have that I dont have celiac? I like this physician and I am appalled that he performed the test. (he told me his brother is also celiac).  I feel that we are still living in the dark ages. I dont want to cause problems because I rarely need health treatment since I live a fairly healthy lifestyle.  Since I am at this age and been through so much getting to this point am I being unreasonable for being upset? I am not expecting to see this physician for another 2 months.  Need to know if I can expect issues with future treatments. How can a physician not know about the gluten challenge this day and age?   
    • trents
      "Risk free genetically"? Very low risk, actually. But, we are still learning about the genetics of celiac disease. Speaking of milk, some studies show that CMP (Cow's Milk Protein) can damage the small bowel villi like celiac disease does. Also, some meds (NSAIDS, Olmesartan - a blood pressure med) and some infections can also blunt SB villi.
    • trents
      @Aretaeus Cappadocia! The post you were looking for about omeprazol acting as an anti-inflammatory/immunosuppressant was made (yesterday, I believe) by knitty kitty. Current guidelines for the gluten challenge prior to an endoscopy/biopsy of the small bowel is the daily consumption of at least 10g of gluten (about the amount in 4-6 slices of wheat flour bread) for at least two weeks prior to the day of the procedure. @Ginarwebb, your tTG-IGA >250 would seem to be a pretty high test result, though to be sure of that statement, I would need to see what the lab used for a "normal" range. Do you have that number also? Different labs use different scales. There isn't an industry standard yet. The tTG-IGA is the centerpiece of celiac blood antibody testing. Your ENDOMYSIAL ANTIBODY SCR (IGA) W/REFL TO TITER (aka, "EMA") is positive as well. This is an older test, and a relative expensive one, compared to the tTG-IGA which has largely replaced. But the EMA is still ordered by some docs and is highly reliable. That both of them agree in your case and this is strong evidence that you have celiac disease. Concerning the ENDOMYSIAL ANTIBODY TITER (aka, "total IGA") being high, there are two things of importance. First, it tells us you are not "IGA deficient" such that your tTG-IGA test result is reliable. Second, a high total IGA test score can suggest other health concerns, some of which are serious. It can also mean nothing. Talk to your doctor about this. I would also suggest you research the implications of a high total IGA. In addition to IGA celiac diagnostic tests there are also IGG tests which are handy when total IGA is sub normal.  Here is an article outlining the various tests that can be run for diagnosing celiac disease:  
×
×
  • Create New...