Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Could My Daughter's Celiac Symptoms Be Different Than Mine?


ginadalan

Recommended Posts

ginadalan Newbie

I don't even know where to begin...I am 33 and have had celiac disease my whole life. My 3 year old daughter just recently began experiencing awful tantrums (much more extreme than a typical tantrum) and night terrors. We kept her gluten free for the first year and began slowly introducing things after that. She has never had what I would call a reaction so I had not gotten her tested yet. Also, my dr said there was only a small chance she would get it so I hadn't rushed to put her thru the blood test. My symptoms are all gastro based. I wonder if she did have it, if our symptoms would tend to be the same or different? And I also wonder if she could only have behavioral symptoms but nothing else (at least that I'm aware of)? Has anyone else experienced just behavioral symptoms? If so, did the blood test come out positive? I would appreciate any feedback at all. If her behavior is just her being 3 and frustrated/anxious (she also just started preschool which might be making her anxious) that would be fine, but if it is celiac, I would hate that I have been making her this way and giving her foods that are upsetting her :(

Also, her preschool gives snacks 2x/day. The center is completely peanut free. I wonder if a center can be required to be gluten free as well? I'm a special educator and I can't imagine they would be able to discriminate between allergies (my husband wonders if since a peanut allergy could be more severe, maybe that would be the difference). If they didn't serve snacks it wouldn't be an issue, she would just have what I sent from home, but since they do, she's going to feel awful that everyday she can't have what the

other kids are having :(

Thanks so much...this is my first time posting, can you tell? Sorry it's so long!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



ShayFL Enthusiast

Welcome!

Of course symptoms can be different. And she would likely test negative anyway because she is so young. Children's test are notoriously inaccurate.

Why not go back to gluten-free? You are anyway. And that would make life so much easier for you. And see if the trantrums go away.

Also, you can supply gluten-free snacks for your DD for pre-school.

Amyleigh0007 Enthusiast

Yes, symptoms can be different. My son's symptoms and my symptoms were totally opposite. Mine were all gastro and his were slow growth (no growth, really) and leg cramps. He was tested for Celiac around age 3 but tested negative. He was tested again at age 8 and was positive. I think he had Celiac back when he was 3 but it was too early to get a positive. I agree with Shay. Take her off gluten and see what happens.

gdobson Explorer

My sons most obvious symptoms were behavior related. We kept overlooking the obvious until his outbursts became age inappropriate. I hate now that we waited so long. He lost a lot of time in mental, physical, and emotional growth. He has been gluten-free for 2 years now and is getting caught up, but I will always wish we had realized the what was goinig on sooner.

We also had to provide school with all his snacks, edible rewards, etc. But he still was getting contaminated every other week or so. We actually homeschool now. And for the first time in his entire life (he is 11 now) his acne has cleared up, his dark circles are gone, and his focus is maintained...not to mention he does roll around on the floor and have temper tantrums anymore.

Best of luck to you.

Gina

A&Z'S MOM Apprentice

Hi

I have two kids.My daughter who is seven had gastro symptoms and my son had no gastro symptoms.She was tested first and came out positive,then son[13] was checked out and surprise,surprise he was positive for celiac too.He had no issues except for really bad outbursts ,attention problems and the tiniest thing could set him off.His behaviour has improved significantly since removing gluten from diet.So yes celiac can manifest itself in various ways.But you are in the right place.Folks in this forum are quite helpful and make the transition easier and r there for support when you want to vent.Nothing short of a Blessing!!!

April in KC Apprentice

Irritability can be a big symptom in kids...certainly was for my oldest son.

About the peanut vs. gluten in the school question...I will answer this from my perspective as a mom whose child has Celiac disease and allergies to peanut, soy, pork and oranges. The only food I ask the school for special care in avoiding is peanut. The others my son has to avoid for himself. The reactions of peanut allergic children are just too severe, too contact sensitive, and too life-threatening. The risk of death is the only reason for the bans. Nathan Walters, Sabrina Shannon, Alex Baptist and many others who suffered fatal reactions at school....kids just shouldn't ever die at school, and kids shouldn't ever see their friends die at school. It's for everyone's good. I know we talk about the "think of gluten as dog poop" example...but with peanuts, it's more like, imagine being a human visiting a planet where the native species all snack on anthrax, and don't wash their hands afterwards. Scary.

With gluten in the classroom, I think it's an age-dependent thing that should depend a lot on the temperament of the child and whether they sneak food. At 2, one of my three boys wouldn't dream of sneaking food...but another did it all the time. No difference in parenting...just a different kid. Teachers need to understand that there are health consequences to a child being exposed. If you have a good relationship with teachers and other parents, you might be able to provide a list of gluten free snacks for treats, since it's just a couple of snacks per day and not lunch. Be sure to include some carb-y things.

With very young kids, (ages 2 and 3), I think it's good to limit the amount of gluten in the classroom of a Celiac child. Eating should be done in one area, not all over the classroom. The parent should supply gluten free play-doh and pasta and cereal for crafts. Wipes should be used. If it's a preschool, the teachers should provide good advance warning of crafts that might involve foods so alternate arrangements can be made.

When I drop off my Celiac 2-year-old for Sunday school with his gluten-free cookies, and I see the little cups of goldfish crackers...I think about how they're going to be everywhere...and how my youngest son is still prone to eat what he can get his hands on. In that case, I assess the class size in comparison to the number of teachers, and if I think they can handle it, I tell them that he must avoid the goldfish. It really takes a minimum of 2 teachers at that age to handle snack times. I always say that if they feel like they're getting too busy to monitor him adequately, then they can call me back to get him. If it were a daycare, I would need to understand their "plan" for snack times.

About kids feeling bad about having a different snack...I try to provide some really cool snacks from time to time so that my kids have the cool snacks everyone else wants.

Best of luck!

crunchy-mama Apprentice

My son used to always have behavior issues w/ cheerios, and would not sleep for forever if he ate them. Somehow I never put that together w/ celiacs. We are just now testing, so I cannot say for sure that is what caused it. However, it is documented that other food allergies cause behavior issues as well. It is just sad that a lot of the mainstream poopoos this idea and tells us it is all in our head, the baby has colic, or it is normal kids just tantrum.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Scott Adams replied to Mihai's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      23

      Pain in the right side of abdomen

    2. - Heatherisle replied to Mihai's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      23

      Pain in the right side of abdomen

    3. - Heatherisle replied to Mihai's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      23

      Pain in the right side of abdomen

    4. - Scott Adams replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      1

      how long does it take for the genetic blood test for celiac to come back?

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,668
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Hope Durbin
    Newest Member
    Hope Durbin
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Scott Adams
      Vitamin B9 (Folate): The UL for Folic Acid is set at 1,000 mcg (1 mg) per day for adults. This limit primarily applies to synthetic folic acid found in supplements and fortified foods, not naturally occurring folate in food. High intake of folic acid can mask the symptoms of Vitamin B12 deficiency, which can lead to neurological damage if left untreated. This is because folic acid supplementation can correct anemia caused by B12 deficiency without addressing the underlying neurological damage. Some studies suggest that excessive folic acid intake might increase the risk of certain cancers, such as colorectal cancer, particularly in individuals who have precancerous lesions.
    • Heatherisle
      Hasn’t been given folic acid as GP says vit b and folic acid can’t be given together which I find strange cos any time I did venepunctures B12 and folate were always grouped together? Her folate level was 2.2, just below the normal level
    • Heatherisle
      Hi Thanks for your input. Don’t know which exact medication she’s on, keep asking but she keeps forgetting!!! I still think her Vitamin D levels might be low cos she had the back pain and tingling last year( around March /April) and levels were low so she had 3 month course then and it helped. She’s coming home next week (as in to ours) for a long weekend so hopefully some TLC from mum and dad will help!!!    
    • Scott Adams
      Genetic testing for celiac disease (the HLA-DQ2 and HLA-DQ8 genes) usually takes about 3–10 days to come back, depending on the lab your doctor uses, though some places may take up to two weeks. The test itself doesn’t diagnose celiac disease—it only shows whether you carry the genes that make celiac possible. About 30–40% of people have one of these genes, but only a small percentage actually develop celiac disease. However, if the test is negative for both genes, celiac disease becomes extremely unlikely, which is why your doctor mentioned possibly canceling the endoscopy if the result is negative. If it’s positive, it just means celiac remains a possibility and further testing, like a gluten challenge followed by endoscopy, helps confirm it. Since you have an identical twin, it’s definitely useful information to share if the genes are present, because twins share the same genetic risk. It sounds like you found a very thorough GI doctor, which is great, especially since she’s also monitoring nutrients and looking at the whole picture.
    • knitty kitty
      @Heatherisle, You're not a bother at all.   What "Vitamin B medication" is she taking?  Is it just B12 and folate?   All eight B vitamins, Vitamin D and other vitamins and minerals need to be supplemented because the malabsorption of Celiac disease affects all the nutrients.  All the B vitamins work together.  Just supplementing one or two can throw the other B vitamins out of balance causing worsening deficiencies in other B vitamins.  Doctors are undereducated about nutrition.  Heavy sigh. This is worrisome.  These are all symptoms of Gastrointestinal Beriberi caused by Thiamine deficiency.   An Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity Assay needs too be done to check her Thiamine level.  But because this test is so expensive and takes so long for the results to come back, it's much simpler to administer 500 mg Thiamine Hydrochloride several times a day for several days and look for health improvement (WHO recommendation).  Doctors can administer Thiamine Hydrochloride by IV along with a "banana bag" with all the B vitamins in it.  (Riboflavin gives it the yellow color.).  I've experienced vitamin deficiencies which my doctors didn't recognize.  When thiamine and B12 deficiencies started affecting my brain function, my doctors wrote me off as a depressed hypochondriac.  I had Gastrointestinal Beriberi myself.  I took over the counter thiamine hydrochloride at home and had health improvement within an hour.  High doses (500 mg) of Thiamine are needed to "jump start" the body into proper functioning.   Apologies if I was curt.  I get very frustrated because the nutritional deficiencies that occur with Celiac disease are not addressed properly.  All I can do is tell people about what I learned on my Celiac journey.  Have you visited my blog?  Tap on my name, look for pull down menu Activities and go to blog.   I do hope your daughter can get the nutritional support she needs.  I'm very worried.  Please keep us updated!
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.