Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Help Interpreting Scratch Test Results!


2sensitivekids

Recommended Posts

2sensitivekids Newbie

I live in New Brunswick, Canada and my two children (ages 6 and 1) were recently tested for allergies using the scratch test. They both scored a 2+ for wheat and I was wondering if this score is even high enough to warrant a change in diet? My 6 year old has had ADHD behaviours since birth, has never slept through the night - EVER, and has bowel and skin problems. They both tested positive for many things - dairy, wheat, yeast, soy, msg, cat hair, dust mites, perfume and the list goes on. I just don't know where to begin. I have had severe psoriasis since I was 13 (now 31) and nothing I ever did has helped it. I have used heavy steriod creams for years. I am begining to suspect it may be linked to food allergy, particularly wheat/gluten. Both kids have skin problems too, although not psoriasis. Our family has alot of autoimmune diseases like psoriasis (both sides of my family), rhematoid arthritis, lupus, lymphoma, allergies - just to name a few.

Does anyone know if a score of 2 or higher is valid on a scratch test? I have already done a gluten free diet with them but I find it very hard to stick to as there isn't alot of products available here. I have seen some improvements, but not drastic as there has still be small amounts of wheat in their diet here and there. We have been referred to a pedatrician who will probably do further tests (I hope) but it takes a while here to get an appointment (a few months).

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



shayesmom Rookie
I live in New Brunswick, Canada and my two children (ages 6 and 1) were recently tested for allergies using the scratch test. They both scored a 2+ for wheat and I was wondering if this score is even high enough to warrant a change in diet? My 6 year old has had ADHD behaviours since birth, has never slept through the night - EVER, and has bowel and skin problems. They both tested positive for many things - dairy, wheat, yeast, soy, msg, cat hair, dust mites, perfume and the list goes on. I just don't know where to begin. I have had severe psoriasis since I was 13 (now 31) and nothing I ever did has helped it. I have used heavy steriod creams for years. I am begining to suspect it may be linked to food allergy, particularly wheat/gluten. Both kids have skin problems too, although not psoriasis. Our family has alot of autoimmune diseases like psoriasis (both sides of my family), rhematoid arthritis, lupus, lymphoma, allergies - just to name a few.

Does anyone know if a score of 2 or higher is valid on a scratch test? I have already done a gluten free diet with them but I find it very hard to stick to as there isn't alot of products available here. I have seen some improvements, but not drastic as there has still be small amounts of wheat in their diet here and there. We have been referred to a pedatrician who will probably do further tests (I hope) but it takes a while here to get an appointment (a few months).

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I believe that with a score of 2+, it is warranted to avoid that food item. When you get into the 3's and 4's, then you're looking at serious and potentially deadly allergic reactions (at least according to some of the tests I've seen done). With that said, I think that there may be different "scales" that the tests are interpreted by.

Considering all that you have listed in regards to family health history, I do think that it would be well advised to pay attention to these test results and stay off the offending foods. Yes, the diet can be difficult, but most of that difficulty can be overcome with some planning and a bit of research.

Outside of buying gluten-free pasta, I haven't really had too many problems with coming up with naturally gluten-free meals. You may want to check out the paleo diet sites or even the raw food diet. Both would have plenty of recipes that could accomodate the allergens you've listed without breaking the bank. As you get more comfortable with things, you can then experiment with baked goods. I've ground up almonds at home for a flour and used them to make some pretty awesome brownies. The best part was....I didn't really need a bunch of expensive, specialty ingredients outside of the gfcfsf chocolate (and even then....you could find a gluten-free powdered cocoa to use). And as I've found recipes that I liked, I then set aside 20 minutes 2x per week to do some baking. I have my 5 year old help me (I figure she needs to learn the process while it's still "fun" for her). From there, we wrap up individual portion sizes and freeze them for later use. Same goes for dinner. We make extra and make our own t.v. dinners for the days when cooking isn't an option.

Two of my aunts and a couple of cousins are now on a gluten-free diet. They live in Quebec and they also have stated that they have to drive pretty far to get gluten-free foods. However, there are several companies that are based in Canada (including a great bakery in Toronto). A bit of research and you could possibly have the products shipped directly to you.

The diet could help with psoriasis. But from what I've seen, some supplements are also needed to make up for the nutritional deficiencies that cause the condition. You may want to have your thyroid, hormone levels, and blood nutrient levels checked. Adrenal fatigue may also be an issue.

Amyleigh0007 Enthusiast

If you and your kids go through further testing (for Celiac Disease) then you will want to stay on gluten. If you go off of it the tests may not be accurate.

When, and if, you decide to do gluten free you have to be 110% commited to getting all gluten out of their/your diet. Having a little wheat/gluten here and there will do you and your children no good. You might as well not do it at all. At first it is hard. We are 9 months into being gluten free and I still learn something new everyday. But, it does get easier. You don't have to purchase special gluten free foods. I live in a small town and don't have much in the way of specialty gluten free foods but we make due with what we have because our son's life depends on it. I do stock up on gluten free pasta and I buy Pamela's baking mix for pancakes, waffles, cookies, and breading chicken. Luckily my son doesn't like bread and I can do without it too. We order a gluten free pizza once a month as a treat (I have to drive 45 minutes to get that pizza but it is REALLY good!!). Everything else we eat is purchased from Walmart, just regular food. You learn what brands to trust and what to look for on labels. Pretty soon it becomes second nature. If you ever have questions this forum is great.

angelschick Apprentice

I always have questioned the scratch tests. My son has sever allergies when he was young and we had the scratch test done maybe 15 years ago. He tested highly positive to birds. I had an African Grey Parrot I had raised from a chick, hand fed and it was my baby. The Doc told me the bird had to go. I re-homed my bird and my son was still sick. In fact, he was sick for 8 more months until we moved. After we moved, the house was found to have mold. My son never had the same issues again, even when we got another bird a few years later. Maybe the tests have changed or I just had a quack of a Doc but I still miss my bird :-(

caek-is-a-lie Explorer

I want this brownie recipe! :D

2sensitivekids Newbie

Thank-you everyone for your help! Angelschick, I agree with you about the inaccuracy of the scratch tests. My son scored a 3+ for cat hair (we have 3 cats) and he doesn't seem to have any symptoms! I'm hoping to get more answers when we go to the pediatrician.

shayesmom Rookie
I want this brownie recipe! :D

LOL! Here's the recipe. I recommend spending some time on the glutenfreegoddess site. Since she's been diagnosed with new food allergies, she's come up with some awesome substitutions for recipes. I'd also recommend looking at the recipes supplied on the paleo diet sites. They always use ground nuts in lieu of harder to find gluten-free flours.

Dark Chocolate Brownies (from www.glutenfreegoddess.blogspot.com)

5 ounces Belgian dark chocolate (I used Trader Joe's) or 5 oz. Enjoy Life chocolate chips

1/2 cup butter or vegan margarine such as Earth Balance Buttery Spread

2 organic free-range eggs

1 cup packed light brown sugar

1/2 rounded cup almonds, processed into a fine meal

1/4 cup brown rice flour

1/2 teaspoon fine sea salt

1/4 teaspoon baking soda

1 teaspoon vanilla extract

Optional:

1/2 cup chopped pecans or walnuts, if desired

1/2 cup extra semi sweet chocolate chips for the top, if desired

Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F. Line an 8x8-inch square baking pan with foil and lightly oil the bottom.

Melt the dark chocolate and butter in a large Pyrex cup in the microwave until you are able to stir it together easily. Set aside.

In a mixing bowl, beat the eggs on medium high till frothy. Add the brown sugar and beat until the mixture is smooth.

Add the melted chocolate mixture into the egg-sugar mixture a little at a time - incorporate it slowly - and beat well for a good minute. The chocolate will look smooth and glossy.

In a bowl, combine the dry ingredients: almond meal, rice flour, fine sea salt and baking soda; whisk together. Add the dry flour mix into the chocolate mixture and beat well for a minute. Add the vanilla, beat another half a minute or so. You now have your brownie batter.

If you are adding nuts, stir in the nuts by hand and spread the batter into the prepared baking pan [this brownie batter is much thinner than any brownie mix batter I've tried - don't worry - it's going to be wonderful]. Shake the pan a little bit to even out the batter. Layer the semi-sweet chips all over the top of the batter and press them in slightly, if adding.

Bake in the center of a preheated 350 degree F oven for 33 to 35 minutes, or until the brownies are set. Don't overcook. [Err on the side of gooey, if you must; I find gluten-free brownies are better slightly undercooked than over-cooked.]

Cool on a wire rack and remove from the pan by gripping the foil edges. Chill before cutting.

These brownies were outstanding slightly chilled. Intense, chocolatty and tender.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      126,666
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    BarbaraJG
    Newest Member
    BarbaraJG
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      120.9k
    • Total Posts
      69.6k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • RMJ
      g/L, a weight per volume unit, would be a very unusual unit for a celiac specific (EMA) test.   1.24 g/L would be in the normal range if this was a TOTAL IgA test. Best to ask the doctor.
    • Lieke
      Hi Hi! I am looking for a PCP in the Portland ME area. I have been dealing with Celiac disease for 30 years. My specialist Celiac MD is in Boston, but I want somebody closer by. Am thinking of an MD working in functional medicine/integrative medicine who is willing to ‘walk the journey’ with me. Despite a strict gluten-free diet, I still have challenges, am ‘super sensitive celiac’ with at time cross contact issues when going out to dinner.  any suggestions?  much appreciated! lieke
    • knitty kitty
      Part of the body's immune reaction to gluten is to release histamine.  This tastes salty, just like tears and snot.        
    • knitty kitty
      I've had dry eye symptoms.  The eye drops did not help me.  What did help was making sure I was consuming Omega Three fats like flax seed oil and olive oil, and taking essential B vitamins, especially Riboflavin, Thiamin, and Vitamin C, as well as Vitamin A, one of the fat soluble vitamins.   Newly diagnosed Celiac can have trouble absorbing fats and absorbing B vitamins.  Most gluten free processed foods contain saturated fats which the body can't utilize. Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like gluten containing products.  The eyes make a film of healthy omega three fats which keeps the eyes lubricated.  Insufficient omega threes can show up as dry eyes.  Most newly diagnosed Celiac are low in Vitamin D, as well as Vitamin A, both fat based vitamins.   Thiamin Vitamin B 1 and Riboflavin B 2 are needed for eye health and optic nerve health.  Taking a B Complex vitamin supplement is beneficial.  Since the B vitamins are water soluble, any excess that the body doesn't need is excreted easily in urine.  The gluten free diet is low in essential B vitamins because gluten free processed foods that replace gluteny breads are not required to have vitamins and minerals added to them in order to replace vitamins and minerals lost in processing as is required with gluten containing products.   Other things that are helpful is to refrain from using highly perfumed products (hair care, body washes, deodorants, room fresheners, cleaning products, etc.).  These can dry out the eyes, too.   Staring at computer screens can be detrimental because you STARE and don't blink.  The tear ducts that keep the eyes lubricated are in the corners of the eyes.  Take breaks from staring at the computer screen.  Look out of the corners of your eyes to the right and blink several times, then look to the left and blink to help the tears spread over the whole eye.   My eyes have sustained permanent damage because of nutritional deficiencies.  My ophthalmologist and my doctors did not connect any of my health problems with nutritional deficiencies which occurred with undiagnosed Celiac Disease.  My optic nerve shuts down and I lose my vision if I spend too much time looking at computer screens, led lights, and TV.  My vision goes gray and dim.  It's much worse than "optic snow".  It can take  hours or days for my vision to return.  My ophthalmologist said my vision might not come back from that sometime.  My ophthalmologist said the flash rate, refresh rate, is registered by the optic nerve which gets over stimulated and shuts down.  The optic nerve uses lots of Thiamine.  Thiamine insufficiency will cause permanent optic nerve damage unless corrected promptly.  My thiamine insufficiency/deficiency was not corrected promptly and I have this permanent damage and light sensitivity.  I take Benfotiamine, a form of Thiamine that also is beneficial for healing the intestinal tract.  Riboflavin,  Pyridoxine B 6,  and Vitamin A are also needed for eye health.   Thiamine insufficiency can also cause anxiety.  Thiamine and magnesium will relieve muscle cramps. Talk to your nutritionist and doctor about supplementing with essential vitamins and minerals while your intestines are recovering.  Hope this helps!  
    • cristiana
      UPDATE I've been asked for an update by someone who sent a PM, but It's best to post health info publicly because this means fellow Mods can make sure I'm staying on the straight and narrow path with any advice I'm giving out! Alex...   Yes, my symptoms did slowly improve.  They started around October, from memory.  Approaching Christmas I remember the feeling as if there were feathers irritating my chest in my lower throat and in my lungs, and things like scented candles made things even worse.  I had a endoscopy and they found nothing wrong, I also had a chest X-Ray because of the cough which lasted more than six weeks and nothing showed. In the end I think the end it settled because I was doing the following: following a reflux/gastritis diet  (you can find lots of these diets on line, which focus on a low fat, low acidndiet, avoiding spices etc, avoiding alcohol and coffee etc) not eating three hours before I went to bed, which means going to bed with an empty stomach sleeping with a wedge pillow, which I still do, five years on... taking Gaviscon Advanced before bedtime, and after meals (not much, just a large teaspoon) using a blue Salbutamol inhaler, I think it was two puffs in the morning and two puffs at night. I felt a lot better after about three or four months.  I then only used the inhaler and Gaviscon when I had to, if I started to feel my chest was getting irritated again. I find keeping on top of reflux symptoms the way forward.  My gastroenterologist told me that the cough was to do with reflux/gasses in the gut coming up that can irritate the throat and airways and the fact I noticed improvement when using Gaviscon showed that that was what was causing it, because it provides a barrier that stops this happening. From the Gaviscon UK website: "It creates a protective barrier or raft over the Stomach contents (which is mostly acid, but also pepsin and bile)." https://www.gaviscon.co.uk/#:~:text=It creates a protective barrier,water and other neutral substances. This protective barrier stopped the contents of my stomach from coming up to irritate my throat, as I understand it, and allowed any irritation in my throat to settle. I do still take Gaviscon if I eat a late meal but not every day.  I hope this helps.  Do come back to me on this thread if I can help further. Cristiana    
×
×
  • Create New...