Dientamoeba Fragilis & Blastocystis Hominis

[wcc84]

I am a 41 year old male that has been sick for 20 years. I have suffered with nausea,vommiting,abdominal pain,cramps,weakness,fatigue,etc. About 5 years ago I was diagnosed with Celiac. I went on a gluten free diet and was told I would start to feel better soon. My blood has returned to normal and my biopsys have returned to normal as well. I am very confident I am not getting any gluten in my diet and so are my doctors. I do not have any other food sensitivites and my doctors have ruled out Crohns and other forms of IBD.

I recently had a short stay in the hospital because I caught a cold and when ever I get a bug on top of my normal issue I feel like I am going to die. My symptoms to through the roof! In 10 weeks I have lost almost 30 pounds and feel terrible. Nausea is the symptom that is really making me feel so bad. Meds dont seem to control it and my doctors are concerned. All my tests at the hospital came back normal(blood work ups, CT scan,etc.). I have tested positive for Crohns antibodies about 6 months ago but was dismissed after a neg. endoscopy and colonoscopy.

So I started digging online to try and finally find the answer. I have always felt this toxic feeling as if I have something oozing from my pores. I came across this website and showed it to my doctors. Open Original Shared Link

This site documents hundreds of accounts of people accross the world that have struggled with unexplained gastro issues for years. Many were mis-diagnosed with irratable bowel and there are some accounts of Celiac patients with unexplained on going issues. If this sounds like this may describe your issue do yourself a favor and check the site out. There is a ton of info. Blasto and DF can be very hard to eradicate and the normal treatment of Flaygl almost always fails. Blasto and DF can also be very hard to detect and may need to have several stool tests to find it. I have just recieved the 5th stool test and I am positive for DF. My first 4 stool tests were all neg.

I have contacted the site founder and spoke with her through e-mail about my condition. She has passed on a protocal of drugs a Aussi hospital has developed after a long research program they started after seeing several patients diagnosed with Blasto or DF that were not cured with Flaygl(I have been on Flaygle 3 seperate times with no improvement). Even though the 3 drugs in the protocal are not available in the states I have found a place to order them online. It is a 10 day trial of 3 seperate drugs. The Aussie hospital that developed the protocal claims it cures 80-85% of the patients. My doctors have researched the treatment and have given me the green light to give it a try. I am awaiting my meds in the mail. I am hoping and praying this will bring my 20 year nightmare to an end. Wish me luck........

[cmom]

the best of luck. It is miserable being sick all the time, with no apparent answers. Hope this will do it for you.

[Fiddle-Faddle]

Thank you for posting this!

I'm sure that there are many people here whom this might help.

It sounds like this is a treatable, yet under-diagnosed (or NEVER-diagnosed!) condition, similar to Lyme disease.

Do we ALL have these bugs in our systems, and only a few have severe reactions, or do only an unlucky percentage have them? How does this bug get into your system in the first place, and after treatment, how do you prevent recurrences?

[wcc84]

Sorry if I failed to mention it before but Dientamoeba Fragilis & Blastocystis Hominis are both intestinal parasites. They did a study of patients diagnosed with irratable bowel that were not responding to normal treatment. Out of those that had ongoing issues over 80% tested positive for either Blasto or DF! There is strong evidence that irritable bowel has a direct link to Blasto and DF. Take some time and look through the the web site, there are stories that made me cry. I know what its like to be bounced around from doctor to doctor not getting an answer. Being told its in your head or "it cant be that bad".

There is some debate over if Blasto and DF are pathogins. It amazes me that thousands of people diagnosed with Blasto and DF are symtomatic but some doctors believe it should not cause issues because its not always catorgized a pathogin.

The lady that founded the site is named Jackie and she is very helpfull. Her story is documented on the site and it is one of those stories that will pull on your heart strings. You can be exposed to Blasto and DF by contaminated food or water that has been exposed to human waste or sewage. Having someone prepare food that has used the bathroom and had not washed their hands well. You will see many accounts that became symptomatic after traveling outside the country.

[AliB]

Oh boy - I have been driving everyone mad with my preaching about bacteria being behind so many of our 'Western' illness and disease and although it is not a nice situation, it is great to actually see evidence that backs up my belief.

Whilst Medical Science is finally admitting that just dishing out antibiotics willy-nilly for years was not a good idea, they still don't get that the things destroy the natural balance of flora in the gut leaving the digestive system open to any of the potential pathogens that we stuff in our mouths every day.

We are seeing evidence of some pathogens that are now highly resistant to antibiotics - the good guys that protect our bodies are destroyed along with some pathogens, but unless the right antibiotic has been prescribed for the job, other stronger survivors, and those not touched by the antibiotic then are given plenty of houseroom to take up residence.

Kill the soldiers and the city is undefended.

We are now seeing explosions of pathogenic bacterial infections as never before like MRSA, E.Coli, C.Diff., Salmonella, and of many diseases that have only recently appeared, like CFS and Fibromyalgia, Aids, MS, etc. Which may well be triggered by toxins produced by pathogenic bacteria and/or parasites.

I mention antibiotics, but there are many prescription drugs that will contribute to gut dysbiosis.

I am personally very reluctant to submit my body to further drug exposure so I am investigating natural sources and am very interested in Neem. It has been used extensively in Asia as a body cleanser and is an excellent anti-fungal and anti-bacterial. I know of at least one person who has tried it and she is feeling a lot better.

I want to get some pure Neem leaves to make tea so that I can get it into my body from the top of my digestive tract down. I don't know about you but I wake up every morning with dog breath and that is a sure sign of Candida and other pathogenic bacteria in action.

The Specific Carb diet is definitely helping but hopefully the Neem will be a good additional support.

You say about the debate over whether those two bacterial strains are pathogenic or not - we all carry pathogenic bacteria in our body. Even Candida Albicans is a normal part of gut flora, and in small doses may actually be beneficial or at least benign. It is when the whole thing gets out of balance that we get problems.

Even beneficial or benign bacteria can become pathogenic if they are allowed to take over. Candida will change from being a simple yeast busily digesting carbohydrate, to a mycelial fungus, like dry rot within the body, spreading out its roots into every corner and crevice it can reach. Some will always be good, but others can be downright evil.

We carry E.Coli - even potential pathogenic strains, but it is when they are able to get into places they should not normally be able to get to that we end up in trouble. Whilst the doctors were dishing out the antibiotics, never, never did they advise anyone to restore their gut flora with good fermented foods like plain live yogurt or kefir or sauerkraut.

I would recommend that you take good probiotics after your drug treatment, for a while to help restore your good gut flora. Cut down on the carbs, especially processed ones, as the rogue bacteria and parasites feed on them, and have a look into Neem.

I hope you get it sorted and get your health back.

Thanks for the info - I will look up that site.

[Icoicoico]

Haha ,i guess its welcome to the club for me,i got exactly the same symptoms wcc84-nausea,panic attacks,tiredness,skin issues,bowel pains etc.I made a ton of research only to find out that what i was doing is wrong-eating starchy foods is baad excess fiber can make your colon very big over time-diverticulosis and actually can worsen constipation if you miss one day,besides the foods are high in carb,which feeds the parasites and bacteria,which is overgrown in the small intestine.Of course,i tried to convince a lot of people but they just say im mad.I lost 25 pounds got trough a lot.From what i've found the nausea is caused by increased gut serotonin(which also induces cramps in the bowels) which in turn is stored in cells in the gut.So what happens? The SIBO bacteria produces gases which act with pressure on these cells causing nausea.The parasite also produces serotonin ,which makes it even worse.So yea,reducing carb-GOOD IDEA.However these parasites are hard to find in stool samples and even harder to cure,from what ive read.Even so,some people managed to get cured with massive doses of antibiotics and other drugs,which by the way have an amazing spectre of side effects....So its a dead end thus far.I also have organic constipation from the lack of "good" bacteria in my large bowel,whereas i should be having diarrhea,cuz i got high serotonin/A LOT of cramps.Its been 4 months and i have been researching night and day to find something that works.Been taking a probiotic for a while,no major improvement though,in fact i feel weird.Im gonna try to cure my disbacteriosis at first with youghurt (im in bulgaria so we have really good,natural) and kefir.But since i read in the badbugs site that the parasites eat bacteria it makes me wonder if youghurt/probiotics will help or make it worse,dont know.So folks, not a good situation,i gues we're pretty messed up,but keep your head up and fight with everything you can.

[AliB]

I pulled this thread back up because I think it has a great relevance - not necessarily just these two parasites, but parasites in general.

My research has led me full-circle back to pathogens - microbes, bacteria, yeasts, but particularly parasites.

There are hundreds out there. We don't have to go to them - they come to us. Most doctors only consider parasites if you have been 'abroad' at some point, but in reality there are enough home-grown parasites to go round, thank you very much. Not only that but with the shrinking of the World these days and the fact that so much of our food is now imported we are getting the rest of the World's as well!

It is recognised that as little as just 1% of parasites are picked up under normal testing procedures and that is just the basic ones like H.Pylori, or pinworms. There are hundreds of parasites that are never tested for - we are a hotbed of activity inside and to be quite honest few are known or understood.

But that aside, we could easily have worms or flukes residing inside us and apart from the fact that we feel like crap, no one would know. It is not until you take some kind of 'De-worming' or Antihelminthic treatment that the 'evidence' becomes manifest.

I started throwing parasite cleansing herbs at myself 4 days ago. I have, for the first time in ages, had 3 good nights sleep. The acute pounding/throbbing thing that I get through my body is diminishing. I have more energy.

As I am diabetic and have had problems with carbs for years, I suspect that I have something residing in my pancreas and the 'feelings of movement' in my back and my intestines and nerve twitches, etc., I have been getting since I started the treatment would kind of back that up.

It is horrible to think that there are things living inside me and i would be glad to get rid of them - but very angry to think that they may have been there doing their 'dirty' and making me feel so awful for 35 years!

It just hit me today that unlike our ancestors who used to 'de-worm' regularly, several times a year, we no longer follow that good protocol. We regularly 'de-worm' our pets, yet never think of doing it ourselves! We consume lots of yummy sugar and carbs and keep them well-fed and comfortable. Why would they ever bother to leave? We are generous hosts. No wonder we are suffering from malabsorption and its consequences - they get the 'cream' - we get the dross. They get fat - we get sick.

The Specific Carb Diet I have been on has undoubtedly helped to rid me of some things as it has drastically removed a lot of the foods they feed on and this is the last step in the process of getting them to pack up and leave. 'Good' bacteria is being promoted now and maybe that is helpful but it is of little help against some of the parasites.

My Mum developed type 1 diabetes at the age of 16. She was anemic all her life. She had me, then a stillborn, then 10 miscarriages. A Doctor finally suspected she might have Celiac 4 weeks before she died at the age of 64. What though if the Diabetes and consequent Anemia and fertility problems were caused, not by Celiac, but by parasites? What then if Celiac is caused by parasites? I also am type 2 Diabetic as was my Dad, as was his Mum, and as are his older sister and younger brother. What if it is not genes that link our diabetes, but our shared parasites???

Some parasites are known to cause B12 deficiencies, iron deficiencies, some can switch off digestive enzymes, others can affect the brain, or the heart, or the muscles, or the................there is no end to what they can affect. Some estimates put parasitical infestations at 40 - 50%, others as high as 95%. Perhaps the 5% don't get them because they eat lots of foods that are natural antihelminthics, like bitter herbs, raw garlic and pumpkin seeds, etc.

Whilst I have been sitting here I have been feeling 'things' moving - 'crawling' sensations down my back. It is very disconcerting but as long as they are moving out I don't care. I am opting for herbals rather than drugs as the herbs have been used quite successfully for years, they do not create side-effects (unless the parasites have managed to set up toxins that react to an odd one or two in an effort to put us off using them!), and, unlike the drugs, the beasties do not become immune to them.

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[craigiecarter]

Anyone have any updates on this thread?

I have been diagnosed with D.Fragilis and have corresponded with Jackie from badbugs.org as well. I'm thinking about treatment options and trying to decide on the best course of action. My PCP seems open to researching drug therapies, but if they are not available in the U.S. I'm not sure where else to try.

Thanks!!

[ang1e0251]

What herbals are good against parasites?