Food Intolerance Elimination Diet

[Rhoger1]

Does anyone know of any good food intolerance elimination diet books or programs. I've tried a few myself, but not finding the exact causes. Gluten Free, Dairy Free...but seems there is something else causing mild irritations (Stomach pain, gurgling at times, some urgency sensations, loose stool...). Recently excluded Corn and Soy....not thinking about Fructose, etc....but wanted to do the test correctly.

Thanks...

[AliB]

Hi Rhoger - I see this so often - those who drop gluten then find that they are also or become intolerant of one food after another.

I have come to the conclusion, like quite a few others on here, that the biggest culprit is gut dysbiosis and almost certainly liver congestion.

If the gut flora is decimated that will allow pathogenic microbes a keyhole to set up residence. People with Celiac/gluten intolerance very often seem to have issues with things like Candida and SIBO which can play havoc in the body.

A congested liver cannot deal with food and other substances properly. Even innocuous foods can seem to be a problem. Sluggish digestion and an impacted gut can all play a part too. Hippocrates said that 'all disease begins in the gut'. Very true. If the process of digestion and elimination breaks down then the body is affected at any level.

I and quite a few others are following the Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) and are getting good results. Because many with gut damage find that they cannot digest carbohydrates properly, those are eliminated on the diet, along with anything processed or 'mucked-about' with.

If you do have issues with Candida, you may find it better to follow a Candida diet. It can be difficult for a man (I am presuming so from your name but please forgive me if I am wrong!) to know as they don't usually get quite the same signs as women, but there are clues, like dandruff, athlete's foot, the charmingly named 'jock-itch', fungal nail infections, etc. These are all signs that the body is a fungus-factory!

Eliminating sugar, high-carbs and dairy is the only way to go in either diet. Try to concentrate on good wholesome (organic if you can get it or afford it) veg, fresh meat, poultry and fish, homemade yogurt or probiotics, some fresh fruit and a little honey and nuts if not on the Candida diet.

I didn't start to get better until I eliminated even the gluten-free carbs. A lot of them are very processed, are very carb-dense and contain a lot of sugar, all of which can sometimes, in some people, help to keep the cycle of gut damage going.

There is an SCD thread in this section into which you are welcome to jump, where we all support each other on the diet and there are various Candida diet sites on the net - I have found 'Healing by Bee' to be very good.

The following is an interesting article on SIBO -

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[Rhoger1]

  AliB said:

Hi Rhoger - I see this so often - those who drop gluten then find that they are also or become intolerant of one food after another.

I have come to the conclusion, like quite a few others on here, that the biggest culprit is gut dysbiosis and almost certainly liver congestion.

If the gut flora is decimated that will allow pathogenic microbes a keyhole to set up residence. People with Celiac/gluten intolerance very often seem to have issues with things like Candida and SIBO which can play havoc in the body.

A congested liver cannot deal with food and other substances properly. Even innocuous foods can seem to be a problem. Sluggish digestion and an impacted gut can all play a part too. Hippocrates said that 'all disease begins in the gut'. Very true. If the process of digestion and elimination breaks down then the body is affected at any level.

I and quite a few others are following the Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) and are getting good results. Because many with gut damage find that they cannot digest carbohydrates properly, those are eliminated on the diet, along with anything processed or 'mucked-about' with.

If you do have issues with Candida, you may find it better to follow a Candida diet. It can be difficult for a man (I am presuming so from your name but please forgive me if I am wrong!) to know as they don't usually get quite the same signs as women, but there are clues, like dandruff, athlete's foot, the charmingly named 'jock-itch', fungal nail infections, etc. These are all signs that the body is a fungus-factory!

Eliminating sugar, high-carbs and dairy is the only way to go in either diet. Try to concentrate on good wholesome (organic if you can get it or afford it) veg, fresh meat, poultry and fish, homemade yogurt or probiotics, some fresh fruit and a little honey and nuts if not on the Candida diet.

I didn't start to get better until I eliminated even the gluten-free carbs. A lot of them are very processed, are very carb-dense and contain a lot of sugar, all of which can sometimes, in some people, help to keep the cycle of gut damage going.

There is an SCD thread in this section into which you are welcome to jump, where we all support each other on the diet and there are various Candida diet sites on the net - I have found 'Healing by Bee' to be very good.

The following is an interesting article on SIBO -

Open Original Shared Link

Thanks for the very insightful information. I've ordrered the Carbo book and will try that for starters. Any background on how long it takes to heal the system and when some carbs can be put back into the diet. Not sure if some cards are worse than others.

Thanks again..

[AliB]

I think the healing process is dependent on many different factors - how efficient our bod is at cleaning itself up, how bad the damage is, where the damage is, etc.

Most of us want instant results but in reality of course damage happens over time and it takes time to put it right. The diet does work but it is slow - too slow for some if they are impatient!

Most will see some kind of benefit, even if small within a few weeks - Elaine Gottschall reckoned that the diet should be given three months at the outset. I am sure it would work in most cases most of the time but sometimes we are so impatient we can start to introduce foods that the body still really can't cope with - even though they may be diet 'legal'. That can then impact on our progress and we can become disillusioned with the diet and assume it isn't working.

What I have found the diet to be good with is helping you to learn to read your body. It is giving us signs and signals all the time. Unfortunately we become very good at ignoring them, or just putting them down to 'normal' behaviour - you know - 'everyone gets gas and bloating so it must be normal'!!

Swallowing a little air with our food is normal - gas and bloating isn't. IF you can read your body you can recognise when it can't cope. If your gut damage is pretty bad you may find, like some that even some SCD 'legal foods are too much to cope with at the beginning. It took me a year before I could really cope with nuts properly and I still prefer to limit dairy, even SCD legal cheeses.

I have realised that the diet is not just about helping the gut to heal, but also about healing other parts of the body that are involved in the detox and elimination process, like the liver. If the liver is clogged it stands to reason that it can't work as effectively than if it is healthy. It can't detox the body as efficiently. If the liver is clogged, the body has to try and expel the toxins in other ways, like through the skin, or the urinary tract, etc., hence some get skin problems or things like recurring UTi's.

Because the diet places a much lighter load on the gut and the liver it has a better chance of catching up with the detoxing backlog.

As far as reintroducing carbs is concerned, that is something only you could figure out. Personally I am not bothered. I, and I know that I can speak for many others on the diet, have no desire to reintroduce the foods that clogged and damaged us in the first place. Because you feel better, and cleaner, and in many cases, leaner, the carbs are no longer a 'draw'. They are very addictive, but not at all necessary. A large proportion of the Earth's population manages extremely well (and a darn sight healthier) without ever having any kind of stodgy carbs!

The more nutritious food you get, the less food your body needs to function on. If you look at a lot of native tribespeople like those in the Kalahari for instance, they probably eat half the quantity of food we eat yet because it is so nutritious, they have the strength and stamina to walk for miles every day. Most carbs are full of 'empty' calories that actually drain the body of resources without putting anything back. If you concentrate on food that benefits the body rather than food that robs it, your body will be eternally grateful!

If you decide to follow the diet please join in the SCD thread, you'll be very welcome.

[Rhoger1]

  AliB said:

I think the healing process is dependent on many different factors - how efficient our bod is at cleaning itself up, how bad the damage is, where the damage is, etc.

Most of us want instant results but in reality of course damage happens over time and it takes time to put it right. The diet does work but it is slow - too slow for some if they are impatient!

Most will see some kind of benefit, even if small within a few weeks - Elaine Gottschall reckoned that the diet should be given three months at the outset. I am sure it would work in most cases most of the time but sometimes we are so impatient we can start to introduce foods that the body still really can't cope with - even though they may be diet 'legal'. That can then impact on our progress and we can become disillusioned with the diet and assume it isn't working.

What I have found the diet to be good with is helping you to learn to read your body. It is giving us signs and signals all the time. Unfortunately we become very good at ignoring them, or just putting them down to 'normal' behaviour - you know - 'everyone gets gas and bloating so it must be normal'!!

Swallowing a little air with our food is normal - gas and bloating isn't. IF you can read your body you can recognise when it can't cope. If your gut damage is pretty bad you may find, like some that even some SCD 'legal foods are too much to cope with at the beginning. It took me a year before I could really cope with nuts properly and I still prefer to limit dairy, even SCD legal cheeses.

I have realised that the diet is not just about helping the gut to heal, but also about healing other parts of the body that are involved in the detox and elimination process, like the liver. If the liver is clogged it stands to reason that it can't work as effectively than if it is healthy. It can't detox the body as efficiently. If the liver is clogged, the body has to try and expel the toxins in other ways, like through the skin, or the urinary tract, etc., hence some get skin problems or things like recurring UTi's.

Because the diet places a much lighter load on the gut and the liver it has a better chance of catching up with the detoxing backlog.

As far as reintroducing carbs is concerned, that is something only you could figure out. Personally I am not bothered. I, and I know that I can speak for many others on the diet, have no desire to reintroduce the foods that clogged and damaged us in the first place. Because you feel better, and cleaner, and in many cases, leaner, the carbs are no longer a 'draw'. They are very addictive, but not at all necessary. A large proportion of the Earth's population manages extremely well (and a darn sight healthier) without ever having any kind of stodgy carbs!

The more nutritious food you get, the less food your body needs to function on. If you look at a lot of native tribespeople like those in the Kalahari for instance, they probably eat half the quantity of food we eat yet because it is so nutritious, they have the strength and stamina to walk for miles every day. Most carbs are full of 'empty' calories that actually drain the body of resources without putting anything back. If you concentrate on food that benefits the body rather than food that robs it, your body will be eternally grateful!

If you decide to follow the diet please join in the SCD thread, you'll be very welcome.

I would love to join the SCD thread. How do I go about joining / finding it. Is it within the celiac postings or another site? Thanks for all the info, its starting to make some sense as I have become very intune with my symptoms of late.

[AliB]

It is in the same section of the forum this topic is in.

If you are in 'Standard' view, scroll back up to the top of this topic. Just above your first post is the Forum Heading. Click on the 'Other Food Intolerances and Leaky Gut Issues' line (also found at the bottom under the last post of the topic) and it will take you to that section index. You will find the SCD thread at or near the top - you can't miss it, it has over 1800 replies spread over 123 pages - and counting!

Click on the last page (unless you have the tenacity and patience to plough through the whole lot!) and jump in.

Ali.

PS. I would give you a direct link but that is the lazy way of getting there - whilst it would take you to the last page now - it won't be the last page for long! Much easier if you know how to find it yourself.........

[talula2]

I can't believe that I found this post, every question I was thinking or wanted to ask was answered..AMAZING. I have been to hell and back in this crusade to figue out my problem, Tested negative for celiac but I do indeed have a wheat allergy via skin testing with allergist as well as soy and dairy and lactose intolerance. Whic I understand is pretty normal in gluten intolerant people. In the past year minimal amounts of wheat or gluten what ever it may be saets me right off for weeks I get the classic symroms as brain fog, sore achey joints and what not as well as the horrible intestinal damage. I have been getting worse with what Ican eat though seems I am developing intolerance daily. Now nuts are hard to digest as well as bananas, apples celery and lettuce and I just can't tolerate carbs at all any grain ones as well as startcy veggies either. Now reading this post I understand what is happening in my body, bacterial overgrowth as well as maybe candidia. I am going to start th SCD I know this will make a huge difference. Thanks