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Kissing A Non-celiac


Sulevismom

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Sulevismom Apprentice

Hi all,

I'm new to this forum and recently diagnosed with celiac disease... actually, two months ago my biopsy test results showed damaged cells consistent with the beginnings of celiac disease but not confirmed. Regardless, I believe absolutely that I do have it.

I'm wondering if anyone has had the experience of getting glutened by kissing a non-celiac? My husband just realized that the last time I experienced symptoms was a few hours after we (French) kissed, and he had been eating bread. Has anyone been glutened by kissing?

Best,

Jessica


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brendygirl Community Regular

I think it happened to me. It wasn't a planned kiss, and we hadn't been eating, so I guess gluten wasn't on my mind that he may have eaten prior to the kiss and I should ask.

YoloGx Rookie

Absolutely! He needs to brush and floss his teeth and rinse his mouth and wash his face and hands before kissing you after he's eaten gluten or you will end up feeling awful. This has happened to me several times with dates. I was surprised at the resistance! Now I have a boyfriend who is OK with it, however I have to still ask and remind him. Hopefully with a husband he'll get the picture a lot quicker. Good that he was the one who brought it up for instance...

Bea

PS Sometimes it can be cute having him just kiss your neck!

Miss Emily Apprentice

Oh yes! Big issue! My boyfriend always has a toothbrush and mouthwash with him, hehe. He MUST brush his teeth and rinse his mouth thoroughly or you will get glutened from him :/ My boyfriend makes certain to wash his hands and face as well. Be very careful if he drinks beer. It's a killer! My boyfriend only drinks Captain and Coke now (he's a great guy!). It's a good way to weed out the jerks and find a keeper! :) If he doesn't care about you or respect you enough to take these precautions he doesn't deserve you! Good luck!

Asillem4 Newbie

Oh yes - Hubby was eating a donut once and I dove in and kissed him on the lips. He tried to avoid me because he knew he was eating the forbidden food but I was persistent and in a flash I got glutened.

Kissed hubby's friend on the lips and didn't realize his beer lips would be a problem until a few minutes later when the rumbling gut started. I thought it was the yogurt I was eating but researched the ingredients. It wasn't the yogurt so must have been the beer kiss.

oceangirl Collaborator

Oh yes. My spousal equivalent is primarily gluten-free because I am SO sensitive. If he eats "Big" gluten (bread, cookies, cake...) he brushes, flosses and rinses and then does it again and it still makes me nervous as there is no question I've been glutened this way in the past.

lisa

YoloGx Rookie

I've had the effect of kissing someone who ate a subway sandwich before hand and did brush but did not rinse!! last 4 weeks!!

Acchh!! So now I am less inclined to just casually date someone even if its someone I know from the past before I knew I needed to be off all trace gluten. Whole new habits. Its kind of freaky. I can't be as spontaneous. I often forget I have this problem of being so different, but dating brings it out.

Bea


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sallyterpsichore Explorer
Acchh!! So now I am less inclined to just casually date someone even if its someone I know from the past before I knew I needed to be off all trace gluten. Whole new habits. Its kind of freaky. I can't be as spontaneous. I often forget I have this problem of being so different, but dating brings it out.

Bea

Yes, dating is now much more difficult. Granted, I'm recently out of college and dating in college is "easier" than anywhere else, most likely, but still...the gluten issue.

I don't mean to hijack the thread here, but...I'm a music reviewer and am often at bars and clubs where people primarily drink cheap beer, so no romance for me. And the guys that I've mentioned the gluten issue to (right off the bat when they ask why I'm drinking cider, etc.) literally walk away mid-conversation. I know it's a great way to "weed out the losers" but they seem to be the only ones left and girl needs her romance, know what I'm sayin? :rolleyes:

I actually find the dating issues more difficult than the diet issues at this point (3 years of being gluten-free and cooking at home).

*grumble*

Sally

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Yes, dating is now much more difficult. Granted, I'm recently out of college and dating in college is "easier" than anywhere else, most likely, but still...the gluten issue.

I don't mean to hijack the thread here, but...I'm a music reviewer and am often at bars and clubs where people primarily drink cheap beer, so no romance for me. And the guys that I've mentioned the gluten issue to (right off the bat when they ask why I'm drinking cider, etc.) literally walk away mid-conversation. I know it's a great way to "weed out the losers" but they seem to be the only ones left and girl needs her romance, know what I'm sayin? :rolleyes:

I actually find the dating issues more difficult than the diet issues at this point (3 years of being gluten-free and cooking at home).

*grumble*

Sally

Sally, there are guys out there! many of us have found them so do NOT lose hope. My best guess though is you're not going to meet him there. or it is going to be someone who is not typically seen there. People who enjoy "clubbing" and going to bars to try tp pick up girls aren't usually looking for serious relationshipd and as celiacs, it would get so frustrating having these types of relationships. I had three relationships after being diagnosed and i got so tired of explaining it. by the last one i was convinced i would hide it!

:lol: and i were wrong! :lol:

he was the one that thought it was perfectly fine. he learned how to read labels just as well as any of us. he explains my problem if anyone starts in on "why are you eating THAT?! it looks gross" kind of thing...

needless to say this is the one i married!!!

In response to this forum, I must confess that i sometimes kiss my husband after he eats something because i want to taste it! ;) i'm bad i know. i font know if this has ever damaged me though... just maybe

Susan-in-NC Rookie

:( I wish I was so lucky, just had a 28 year marriage end because he thought my being gluten free was too big of a problem. Would not brush and floss for me would not change eating habits and started going "out" with others because the could be spontanious.

So, yes you can be glutened by a kiss. And, finding someone who understands that isn't easy.

Susan

OptimisticMom42 Apprentice

Maybe you could date another celiac? You're probable not going to find him in a bar though. Maybe at a gym or a salad bar? :D

Hmmm, where do celiacs hang out for fun?

YoloGx Rookie
:( I wish I was so lucky, just had a 28 year marriage end because he thought my being gluten free was too big of a problem. Would not brush and floss for me would not change eating habits and started going "out" with others because the could be spontanious.

So, yes you can be glutened by a kiss. And, finding someone who understands that isn't easy.

Susan

That is tough! I feel for you sister. Some men are so completely selfish!

I have two ex boyfriends, both of whom I really like, who just could not get beyond this issue. They are still good friends, but we just don't go beyond that. Its like I have to have a chastity belt on my mouth, lol!

However its also true that underneath it, those two guys are selfish types despite all their charm, and have no true desire to change. They are the sort who if they found they had celiac would probably not comply with the diet since then they would have to change their habits! Plus it would eat into their social life. A lot of people would rather die than change, look at all the degenerative diseases that could be prevented by quitting smoking and drinking and going on a low specific carb. or paleo diet and exercising!

The good thing about the majority of the folks here on the forum is that they are committed to making those changes towards better health!

And yeah, going to a bar looking for a date who might understand all this is probably not going to be a very successful endeavor. Join some club with a topic you are interested in, hang out at the natural foods store, get involved in a craft etc.

I wonder how the guys here on the Forum deal with it.

It is also true that some men and presumably women who don't have celiac are dolls and actually care about others, esp. their significant other. They are out there. I suspect there's more women who care like that than men however.

Bea

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Eating and drinking rituals are so ingrained into our collective mentality that gluten and booze are considered by the majority to be an integral part of faith, love and happiness.

sallyterpsichore Explorer

Thanks for the responses to my pity party about kissing/dating as a celiac. :P Looks like I need to move the man-hunt to new locales...who knew bars weren't the greatest places to begin relationships! <_< Hahaha, ah well, such is life.

Sorry to the woman who had a selfish (apologies if this is harsh) husband who left her over something as silly as bread. I guess finding that out from the get-go might be nice after all, eh?

Thanks again,

Sally

nuit.pieta Newbie

My boyfriend doesn't eat gluten around me at all to avoid getting me glutened. But for a while I was still having problems. It turns out that when he did eat gluten he would wash his mouth out, but most mouth wash has gluten in it. So we got gluten free mouth wash. Hope this helps :)

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