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Does Msg Contain Gluten?

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Please forgive me if I am the only one ignorant here. I know the "G" is for "Glutamate" and I think that MSG is a spice or a sugar of some kind. I just want to be sure that MSG is gluten-free. Does anyone out there know?

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Lisa Mentor
Lisa
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Please forgive me if I am the only one ignorant here. I know the "G" is for "Glutamate" and I think that MSG is a spice or a sugar of some kind. I just want to be sure that MSG is gluten-free. Does anyone out there know?

No gluten in MSG. Not real good for you, but no gluten. AND, no ignorant questions here. Any question is a good one, because 100 other people thought about asking the same question.

imissgoodbeer:( Newbie
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No gluten in MSG. Not real good for you, but no gluten. AND, no ignorant questions here. Any question is a good one, because 100 other people thought about asking the same question.

OK, I was under the assumption that if it was made in the US that MSG is gluten free, but MSG of non-US origin could have gluten in it (e.g. that tasty sauce from thailand that you used to love). Kind of the same deal with vinegars. Is this wrong mama goose?

Lisa Mentor
Lisa
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MSG

Monosodium glutamate is a flavoring made through the fermentation of corn, sugar beets, or sugar cane. It is gluten-free

If a product with MSG is of a foreign source, it would have to comply with FDA Regulations, disclosing "wheat". If Chinese, (if I'm not mistaken) it may be derived from seaweed, and not one of the eight allergens.

imissgoodbeer:( Newbie
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Hi Again,

Monosodium Glutamate (MSG)

MSG is the sodium salt of glutamic acid, an amino acid found in many foods. It has been produced from both wheat gluten and sugar beet molasses but is now produced almost entirely from the latter in a highly purified form. Most authorities agree that it is harmless. There should be no concern among Celiacs about the use of foods containing MSG.

Note: As of 2009, wheat-derived MSG has been found in products imported from Asia. R5 ELISA testing is needed to confirm its suitability in the gluten-free diet.

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I know this is from the canadians, but I have seen similar warnings elsewhere.

I believe I get glutened, not an allergic reaction to msg, to otherwise gluten free foods from the asian markets that contain msg.

Lisa Mentor
Lisa
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https://www.celiac.com/articles/181/1/Safe-...ents/Page1.html

MSG is on the Safe List for Celiacs.

hannahp57 Contributor
hannahp57
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I react to MSG every time i have ever eaten anything with it listed on the ingredients. it isnt quite the same as a gluten reaction which is why im not worried that i made with gluten. i think i just cant tolerate it for some other reason... maybe you cant either? if you have reacted to it that is. it IS possible

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chasbari Apprentice
chasbari
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I may be way off base here but I thought MSG was a contributing factor in gut permeability so it would be bad if dealing with leaky gut syndrome. I am willing to be entirely wrong on this if someone with more knowledge steps forward. I am wracking my brain to come up with the source...

CS

Celiacnewbie Newbie
Celiacnewbie
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No gluten in MSG. Not real good for you, but no gluten. AND, no ignorant questions here. Any question is a good one, because 100 other people thought about asking the same question.

Thanks very much. I read all the posts so far and I will be on the look out for products containing MSG and imported from Asia.

Becky C Rookie
Becky C
Posted

I'm too new to the gluten-free diet to know if MSG contains gluten, but it sounds like the other people who posted are pretty knowledgeable. I just wanted to add that I know someone who is severely allergic to MSG, so it could just be that you're allergic or intolerant to MSG as well as gluten.

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Estahrita Newbie
Estahrita
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I'm new to all of this and could be wrong, but I seem to get a reaction to both gluten and MSG! I've gotten hives and digestive issues from both. It's depressing because a lot of foods have either one or the other.

I've also read conflicting info about MSG- some say it's safe, some say it's not. It sounds like some people who are intolerant to gluten are also intolerant to MSG, while some people do not react to the MSG. Either way, it is not the best thing for you, and I wish it wasn't in anything!

Hope that helps somebody!

psawyer Proficient
psawyer
Posted

Some people, including some celiacs, have an adverse reaction to MSG, but there is no gluten to be found in MSG.

StacyA Enthusiast
StacyA
Posted

I also react to MSG, so I look for 'gluten-free' and 'no MSG'.

lovegrov Collaborator
lovegrov
Posted
I'm new to all of this and could be wrong, but I seem to get a reaction to both gluten and MSG! I've gotten hives and digestive issues from both. It's depressing because a lot of foods have either one or the other.

I've also read conflicting info about MSG- some say it's safe, some say it's not. It sounds like some people who are intolerant to gluten are also intolerant to MSG, while some people do not react to the MSG. Either way, it is not the best thing for you, and I wish it wasn't in anything!

Hope that helps somebody!

The ones who say MSG has gluten or can have gluten are wrong. It is gluten-free.

richard

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New-To-This Rookie
New-To-This
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Please forgive me if I am the only one ignorant here. I know the "G" is for "Glutamate" and I think that MSG is a spice or a sugar of some kind. I just want to be sure that MSG is gluten-free. Does anyone out there know?

I have read several books on this subject trying to get an understanding of this disease as my husband and I are new to this. The only book I have found that touches on this subject so far has been "The Gluten-free Bible 2005 edition by Jax Peters Lowell

I has quote what I found on page 18 and 19 below......

"MSG or Monosoduim Glutamate. Unless you are allergic to MSG (chinese Restaurant Syndrome), you need not worry about this additive made from beet sugar or mollassses."

However I have found several web sites that state to use extreme caution or avoid at ALL costs. So the decision is up to you, weither you risk using it or not.

Below are a few of the web sites that caution against its use, and for good reason, as well as tell you what it can be made of and reactions you might encounter if you use it.

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https://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/lofivers....php/t6100.html

After reading these articles I am thinking twice about MSG especially fo rmy husband. I get headaches already so whjy eat something that can triger them??

I hope this helps you out.

lovegrov Collaborator
lovegrov
Posted

The point here is whether or not MSG has gluten. It doesn't. Please take the discussion of whether or not MSG is good for you to the non-celiac threads.

richard

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Ezginol Newbie
Ezginol
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Hello, I found this website while looking around, and I read a few of your comments. I'd like to clear up a few things. First of all, MSG does not affect people who need a gluten-free diet. Second, the adverse affects that are blamed on MSG use have never been proven by the scientific community. The "research" done on MSG that blamed it for reactions such as headaches do not have the required qualities we look for in a proper research. In fact most of these "researches" have been done again and again to see if they had any merit - and the same results have never been obtained.

Also, the Chinese Restaurant Syndrome was in fact based on several different kinds of foods, including wine. I'm pretty sure that after having a good amount of wine anyone can feel nauseous or experience headaches. But sadly the only thing that stood out from this research was the fact that MSG was used, and things such as wine were completely ignored.

Another thing, hypersensitive reactions to food is very rare. There have been experiments regarding hypersensitive reactions (allergies) to MSG and while some of the people who were a part of the experiment claimed to feel ill after digesting MSG, when they were tested to see if they honestly had an allergic reaction to monosodium glutamate, none of them had any.

Last of all, the FDA approves of MSG and classifies it as GRAS because it regularly does test to see if it has any negative effects. So for there have been none, hence they can keep classifying as safe.

For those of you who want to quote Olney's experiment on mice and MSG - any animal would show reactions if they were force-fed and injected disturbingly high amounts of any substance. Though, as I said before, these experiments were repeated and Olney's results were never obtained :)

I hope this helps!

lovegrov Collaborator
lovegrov
Posted

My mother once fervently believed that she was allergic or sensitive to MSG. She eventually realized that she had been getting MSG without realizing it and without reacting and that her paranoia about it was based on nothing. She now doesn't worry about it and at age 80 is fine.

richard

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What kind of symptoms are seen with an MSG intolerance? 

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