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Having been recently diagnosed with Celiac desease, I have been doing some research. It has come to my attention that the Gluten and lactose intolerent population is growing at a fast rate of speed. Could it have something to do with the way are food is grown and raised. With all the hybrid growing of grains and grasses, as well as Feeds that are used for milk producers [Dairies] I believe that we are being poisoned into these deseases that are causing our immune systems to shut down. Long gone are the family run farmers. Replaced by government run and owned food producing monopolies. Production having to be boosted somehow. As I see it artificial and genetically engineered food has been replaced by the wholesome foods the 50 and over age group grew up with. It is just a theory on my part, but I am shocked by the numbers now affected by this and other deseases that have affected the way our bodies absorb nutrients and respond and digest our much needed sources to sustain life. Anyone else out there have any thoughts on the subject.


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Having been recently diagnosed with Celiac desease, I have been doing some research. It has come to my attention that the Gluten and lactose intolerent population is growing at a fast rate of speed. Could it have something to do with the way are food is grown and raised. With all the hybrid growing of grains and grasses, as well as Feeds that are used for milk producers [Dairies] I believe that we are being poisoned into these deseases that are causing our immune systems to shut down. Long gone are the family run farmers. Replaced by government run and owned food producing monopolies. Production having to be boosted somehow. As I see it artificial and genetically engineered food has been replaced by the wholesome foods the 50 and over age group grew up with. It is just a theory on my part, but I am shocked by the numbers now affected by this and other deseases that have affected the way our bodies absorb nutrients and respond and digest our much needed sources to sustain life. Anyone else out there have any thoughts on the subject.

I would agree. I have recently learned I have multiple hormonal imbalances and issues with my adrenal glands. My doctor said he's seeing a lot of these issues in younger and younger people and he blames the food supply. I recently watched Food, Inc and that was real eye opener!

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I also feel this way, kayakgal. One latest example which boggles my mind: I live in New Zealand which has long traded on its "clean, green" image. We are very much a dairying nation with dairy products being one of our principal exports. We have lovely green, grassy pastures and happy cows. Recently, of course, the small dairy farms have conglomerated into corporate farms, there is increased effluent contamination of rivers and streams, methane gas warming the earth etc., so the brilliant minds in dairying have come up with this wonderful idea. Take an area which is totally unsuited to dairy farming (an area of stark, outstanding natural beauty, no less), bring in oodles of irrigation, and then farm in the following manner. Build enormous barns where the cows will be housed exclusively for eight months of the year; the other four (summer) months they will be 'allowed' outside to actually eat green grass for twelve hours a day. God only knows what they will be fed in those barns :rolleyes: It ain't natural and it ain't right, and yes, I do think all this is going to kill us eventually. Only the most genetically adaptable will survive, that is if mother earth survives it.

lynnelise Apprentice

I loved the program Meet the Natives on the Travel Channel a couple of months back. The tribesmen were visiting the U.S. from the island of Tanna and their perspective on our food supply was so insightful. They refered to canned sweet potatoes as "dead" food, questioned whether microwaving in plastic would cause them to ingest the plastic and harm them, and questioned why our cows weren't eating grass. Really it takes people who have no modern conveniences to point out our lack of common sense!

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I agree. Its disturbing. What's even more disturbing to me is the way things like wheat, corn and soy are marketed and pushed on us as "health" food when the truth is far from that. Scary. I don't know if its a big evil conspiracy or if companies are just that stupid/dont care but yes, imo we ARE being poisoned. It seems like everything pushed as healthy causes a lot of problems in a LOT of people. Milk, wheat, soy.. hmmm....

Has anyone seen those disturbing commercials that are PRO high fructose corn syrup? Thats another thing that gets me. Its blatant lies and total propaganda. It makes me so sick. Its really really scary. The only way to be okay in this world is to think for yourself and never listen to much of anything you see or hear from the mainstream media. Do your own research and trust your gut because this is one jacked up world with a lot of corrupt and greedy forces in power, from the pharm companies to the food companies to the governments themselves. We have to watch our own backs.

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