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Breaking The Vicious Cycle


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I just saw this book "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" at my local co op today and was wondering if anyone has read this book?

It is about the Specific Carbohydrate Diet and it appears to claim that after a time on the SCD that one can be "cured" of Celiac, Chrons, Colits and other digestive disorders, and that after being on the SCD for a while, one could go back to eating "normal" foods.

This concerns me because I believe it is misleading and dangerous information.


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I took a look at some of the links relating to this book, but dismissed it when I saw that it allows dairy. I can't have any dairy whatsoever. It's so bad that I even puke when I eat popcorn (too much butter???).

I think it would be great to find a good celiac friendly diet that can speed healing of the gut. Anyone know any?

celiac3270 Collaborator

Umm...does it specifically say cured? I know that it may help some celiacs to heal, etc, but it doesn't heal, of course.

I haven't personally read it, but a couple here probably have. Maybe contact Strack2004 --she seems to know a lot about it.

Guest nini

well I didn't read the whole book, just skimmed some pages, but I did see where it claimed that even a person with celiac would be able to go back to eating "normal" foods (containing gluten) after being on the SCD for a while. I got disgusted and put it back on the shelf at that point.

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ms-sillyak-screwed Enthusiast

Here I am! I have... [waving my hand]

It is a very informative book. I have been following some of what she says.

The recipes I am unable to use because of my dairy intolerance. The scientific evidence part went right over my head. You guys (celiac3270 and others) are really good at making sense of these things. Check the book out.

I spent maybe $15 well worth it for me.

One of the gals from the local CS support group turned me on to the book when I got sick after 4-heathy years. But consumed corn, rice, and potatoes. Major stress blindsided me. Up reared the ugly head(s) of the Celiac Sprue & Thyroid Nodule Monsters that kicked me around.

She opened my thought process to some of us celiac's can't tollerate corn, rice and/or potatoes too. And as things would have it, that's my problem.

The author of this book writes about it.

Check out her web site www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/

Guest nini

I'm sure she has some valid points... I was just concerned about her statements that by following the SCD that people could be completely cured of Celiac and therefore go back to eating gluten... That was what concerned me.

Smaddenil Newbie
  nini said:
I just saw this book "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" at my local co op today and was wondering if anyone has read this book?

It is about the Specific Carbohydrate Diet and it appears to claim that after a time on the SCD that one can be "cured" of Celiac, Chrons, Colits and other digestive disorders, and that after being on the SCD for a while, one could go back to eating "normal" foods.

This concerns me because I believe it is misleading and dangerous information.

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I think you have it wrong. There is no dairy allowed except homemade yogurt and natural cheeses where the bad stuff is already digested. The whole idea of the diet is for stuff that is easily digestible. There are no refined sugars or heavy starches like potatoes and the like because those sugars are hard to digest. I am off on a trip but I intend to start the diet as soon after. There is nothing to lose and it is a healthy lifestyle with meats. poultry, seafood, and veggies and lots of sweets. What's not to like? You may get healthy!


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  Smaddenil said:
I think you have it wrong.  There is no dairy allowed except homemade yogurt and natural cheeses where the bad stuff is already digested.  The whole idea of the diet is for stuff that is easily digestible.  There are no refined sugars or heavy starches like potatoes and the like because those sugars are hard to digest.  I am off on a trip but I intend to start the diet as soon after.  There is nothing to lose and it is a healthy lifestyle with meats. poultry, seafood, and veggies and lots of sweets.  What's not to like?  You may get healthy!

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For those of us with a casein intolerance, even homemade yogurt and natural cheeses are a problem because the protein is left intact, even if the milk sugar lactose is broken down.

But I agree that suggesting that following the diet for a while may allow a celiac to go back to gluten-containing grains (I haven't read it, so I'm just taking that from what was originally said, of course) is dangerously misleading.

Carriefaith Enthusiast
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Umm...does it specifically say cured?

This is what I think... I've posted this once before:

She (the author) leads people to believe that the gluten-free diet cures celiac disease. Personally, I think she is using the word "cure" in the wrong way. I think, or I hope, she means that the SCD make celiacs feel 100% better, which is great. But using the word "cure" like that will mislead a lot of people and potentially lead people to believe that they can eat gluten again. I have nothing aganist the SCD diet and I know that it helps a lot of people, but I just don't like that the author claims that it cures celiac disease.

ms-sillyak-screwed Enthusiast

Hi All!

I'm going to go back and re-read the book. I have flipped through it and she does use the word cure.

She devotes a entire chapter to Celiac, backed up my doctors...

People do use the word "CURE" too freely now-a-days.

And we all know there is NO CURE and/or magic pill for this sillyak thingy we suffer from. You are right for newbies who are clueless (as we all were) in the begining, it can be misleading to use the word CURE.

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