Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Confued About Biopsy


glutout

Recommended Posts

glutout Rookie

Hi. I was diagnosed in Jan. with celiac disease through a biopsy of my intestine. I feel better in some ways but still have symptoms, which I guess may or may not be from celiac disease. I found out that I have been eating gluten by mistake from time to time.I talked to my doc and told them all of this. He said that because my biopsy was "not definate but consistent for Celiac Sprue" I could do a genetic test. Why would I need that? Isn't that going to cause me more confusion if my biopsy says one thing and the genetic test says another? I am not sure what the results mean...is it that I have celiac disease maybe? Does anyone think I should go ahead with the genetic test? I surely don't want to eat gluten-free if I don't need to, right? :blink:


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



ravenwoodglass Mentor

Hi. I was diagnosed in Jan. with celiac disease through a biopsy of my intestine. I feel better in some ways but still have symptoms, which I guess may or may not be from celiac disease. I found out that I have been eating gluten by mistake from time to time.

The key to your continued symptoms is likley what I have bolded. You should become strict with the diet and likely that will be the end of your issues. If after a couple months of strict gluten free living, and there is much more to it than just the labels on your food, then perhaps look for other issues. For now go with pure unprocessed foods, make sure your living space is free of cross contamination, stay out of restaurants and check all supplements and meds and see if that takes care of your issues. It is also not uncommon for us to have other intolerances like soy and dairy. Eliminate them both for now and add them back on at a time when you have been feeling good for a while.

skigirlchar Newbie

if you feel better when gluten free, then live gluten free

it IS a lot of work. i am still not 100% gluten or casein free (i work much harder to be wheat and soy free)

I came back negative on both the blood work and the biopsy for celiac, but my allergies are so severe that the gluten-free/cf/sf diet (aka celiac diet) is right for me.

it took me a while to get my house gluten-free/CF/SF. now my problem is outside of the house as I work in other people's homes with children (and they are always offering me food, and since many of the kids i work w/ are picky eaters, being a positive example is important so it's a tough battle of eating my own food in front of the kids vs not eating at all vs. eating what is offered.)

the number one thing i have learned though is that i feel better and better each day i follow the diet, and that just a small meal of "banned" food is enough to make me backslide in a big way.

tarnalberry Community Regular

Yeah, if you've been getting even a very small amount of gluten, you can't expect to have your symptoms go away. If you've seen improvement (without symptoms going away), then I'd be fairly confident that it's celiac. It's not terribly common for biopsy findings that are consistent with celiac to be from something else (possible, but those other things are likely to be eliminated previously, and won't respond the gluten free diet).

glutout Rookie

Yeah, if you've been getting even a very small amount of gluten, you can't expect to have your symptoms go away. If you've seen improvement (without symptoms going away), then I'd be fairly confident that it's celiac. It's not terribly common for biopsy findings that are consistent with celiac to be from something else (possible, but those other things are likely to be eliminated previously, and won't respond the gluten free diet).

So you do not think the genetic test is necessary?

Tarnalberry, what other things in the biopsy could be a problem?

Ravenwoodglass, I LOVE your profile picture!!!

ravenwoodglass Mentor

So you do not think the genetic test is necessary?

Tarnalberry, what other things in the biopsy could be a problem?

Ravenwoodglass, I LOVE your profile picture!!!

The genetic test can satisfy curiosity but if they only test for DQ2 and DQ8 you could end up thinking that celiac is not a possibility. There are 7 additional celiac related genes but most doctors don't check for them. I had my genes tested because my biopsy and blood positive daughter had her diagnosis taken away after she was gene tested. That prompted me to test with enterolab to see what gene I do carry and it turns out the I don't carry either of those either. I do however have a double dose of a celiac related gene....if I lived in Asia or Europe anyway.

I really enjoyed taking that picture of the rooster, he was so offended by my doing so! Turns out he got his revenge inadvertently because I got so close to the gluten filled cages I was sick for 2 weeks afterward.

glutout Rookie

The genetic test can satisfy curiosity but if they only test for DQ2 and DQ8 you could end up thinking that celiac is not a possibility. There are 7 additional celiac related genes but most doctors don't check for them. I had my genes tested because my biopsy and blood positive daughter had her diagnosis taken away after she was gene tested. That prompted me to test with enterolab to see what gene I do carry and it turns out the I don't carry either of those either. I do however have a double dose of a celiac related gene....if I lived in Asia or Europe anyway.

I really enjoyed taking that picture of the rooster, he was so offended by my doing so! Turns out he got his revenge inadvertently because I got so close to the gluten filled cages I was sick for 2 weeks afterward.

The lab my doctor wants to use is Prometheus Labs. They are supposed to be pretty good, but I don't know how many genes they are testing for.

That is so great you took that picture yourself! It makes me smile except for the fact you had to suffer for it! :(


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      45

      Severe severe mouth pain

    2. - Lkg5 replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      45

      Severe severe mouth pain

    3. - Charlie1946 replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      45

      Severe severe mouth pain

    4. - Aretaeus Cappadocia posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      0

      Brown Rice Vinegar (organic) from Eden Foods is likely gluten free

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,097
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Hana B
    Newest Member
    Hana B
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Charlie1946,  Sorry I sidetracked your thread a bit.  Apologies. Proton pump inhibitors, like Omeprazole, change the pH in our gastrointestinal systems which allows opportunistic microbes to move in and take over.  Have you been checked for SIBO?  There's a significant link between length of Omeprazole use and SIBO.  I had SIBO, thrush (Candida) and lichen planus and other problems while I was on Omeprazole.  I had to stop taking it.  It was a horrible time, so I understand how painful and frustrating it is.   You change your microbiome (the bacteria and microbes living inside you) by changing what you eat.  They eat what you eat.  Change the menu and you get different customers.   I changed my diet.  I cut out dairy because I was reacting to the casein and lactose.  I cut out all processed foods and most carbohydrates. I ate meat and veggies mostly, some fruit like apples and mandarin oranges.  By cutting out all the excess carbohydrates, lactose, and empty carbs in processed gluten-free foods, the opportunistic microbes get starved out.  SIBO bacteria send chemical messages to our brains demanding more carbs, so be prepared for carb cravings, but don't let the microbiome control you!   The skin and digestive system is continuous.  The health of our outside skin reflects the health of our gastrointestinal system.  Essential B vitamins, like Thiamine B 1 and especially Niacin B 3, are needed to repair intestinal damage and keep bad bacteria in check.  Niacin helps improve not only the intestinal tract, but also the skin.  Sebaceous Hyperplasia is linked to being low in Niacin B 3.  Lichen Planus is treated with Niacinamide, a form of Niacin B 3.   Vitamins are chemical compounds that our bodies cannot make.  We must get them from our food.  If our food isn't digested well (low stomach acid from Omeprazole causes poor digestion), then vitamins aren't released well.  Plus there's a layer of SIBO bacteria absorbing our vitamins first between the food we've eaten and our inflamed and damaged villi that may have difficulty absorbing the vitamins.  So, taking vitamin supplements is a way to boost absorption of essential nutrients that will allow the body to fight off the microbes, repair and heal.   Doctors are taught in medical learning institutions funded by pharmaceutical companies.  The importance of nutrition is downplayed and called old fashioned.  Doctors are taught we have plenty to eat, so no one gets nutritional deficiency diseases anymore.  But we do, as people with Celiac disease, with impaired absorption.  Nutritional needs need to be addressed first with us.  Vitamins cannot be patented because they are natural substances.  But pharmaceutical drugs can be.  There's more money to be made selling pharmaceutical drugs than vitamins.   Makes me wonder how much illness could be prevented if people were screened for Celiac disease much earlier in life, instead of after they've been ill and medicated for years.   Talk to your doctor and dietician about supplementing essential vitamins and minerals.   Interesting Reading: The Duration of Proton Pump Inhibitor Therapy and the Risk of Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12250812/#:~:text=The long-term use of,overgrowth dynamics is less clear. Lichenoid drug eruption with proton pump inhibitors https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC27275/ Nicotinamide: A Multifaceted Molecule in Skin Health and Beyond https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857428/
    • Lkg5
      My sebaceous hyperplasia and thrush disappeared when I stopped all dairy.
    • Charlie1946
      @knitty kitty Thank you so much for all that information! I will be sure to check it out and ask my doctor.  I am just at a loss, I am on my 2nd round of miracle mouthwash and I brush and scrape my tongue and (sorry this is gross) it's still coated in the middle 
    • Aretaeus Cappadocia
      Traditional brown rice vinegars are made by fermenting brown rice and water with koji (Kōji 麹). The gluten risk comes from the method of preparing the koji: rice, wheat or barley may be used. Regardless of the starting grain, "koji" typically will be listed as an ingredient, and that term alone does not indicate gluten status. I called Eden Foods regarding their product "Organic Brown Rice Vinegar" (product of Japan) to ask how their product is made. They gave me a clear answer that they >do< use rice and they >do not< use wheat or barley in preparing their koji. FWIW, the product itself does not contain any labeling about gluten, gluten risk, or gluten safety. Based on Eden's statement, I am going to trust that this product is gluten safe and use it.
    • Scott Adams
      Your post nails the practical reality of living well with a celiac diagnosis. The shift from feeling restricted to discovering a new world of cooking—whether through a supportive partner making gluten-free spanakopita and gravy, or learning to cook for yourself—is exactly how many people find their footing. It turns a medical necessity into a chance to build kitchen skills, eat more whole foods, and actually enjoy the process. Your point that the basics—knife skills, food safety, and experimenting with spices—are all you really need is solid, helpful advice. It’s a good reminder that the diagnosis, while a pain, doesn’t have to stop you from eating well or having fun with food.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.