Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Kids Play Center- Cc Everywhere?


K8ling

Recommended Posts

K8ling Enthusiast

We went to a playdate today at one of those inflatable kid places...I normally hate them but went as a favor to a friend. Of course we get there and all the kids line up for snacks- soft pretzels, pizza, hotdogs and cookies. Thanks. So off the bat, the toddler is begging for snacks and has to settle for gluten-free pretzels and a gluten-free cookie. Then we start playing...kid needs ME to go with him because he is small. As I am climbing into this huge bouncy thing I am thinking "Um...all these kids are covered in gluten and climbing on stuff...and I am right behind them". We didn't stay long but we took showers and rinsed off when we got home. I am going to run into the same problem when school starts in two weeks...

Am I overreacting? Was it really NOT that big of a deal? I just kept thinking "CC! CC!" *I* didn't eat or drink anything there because I was freaked out! If I am NOT over reacting, how can I deal with the CC factor at his school?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



T.H. Community Regular

I think the big thing is to try to face it and be able to relax and stay vigilant at the same time, if that makes sense? But I don't think you were analyzing the CC potential, really. I think it's...well, I don't honestly know! I know very small amounts can cause damage, and they can be spread from contact, although the amounts would get less and less with each touch, I imagine, you know? But...gluten doesn't exactly die, not like a virus. I know that with fungal spores, they can have one spore on clothing that can hang in there for months, so for gluten - I've always wondered just how tough it is to completely rid ourselves of the gluten around us. I don't honestly know! I think perhaps checking with some people with severe food allergies might be of use, actually, come to think of it.

But, in a place where there is a gluten source - the food- right next to the play area, I would imagine the contamination issue would be more immediate. In a school, perhaps less so, since much of the time there is no food in some of the areas. But in places near gluten sources, like the cafeteria or art room, I would imagine it's more of a potential problem.

My mother came to visit us a few weeks back when I was recovering from surgery. She had a couple loaves of bread. She kept them in one spot in the house, under glass, only ate them in one spot as well, washed her hands very often, only used paper plates and her own silverware. She was trying to be really careful because she knows how sensitive I am to gluten, which is why we've kept a gluten free house.

Even with all that care, I still got glutened. So in the situation you described, when there's itty bitties, whose hands are everywhere and touch gluten constantly and aren't washing afterwards? Yeah, I think you're likely very contaminated/covered in gluten coming out of that situation. I don't know how sensitive you or your little ones are, so perhaps it wouldn't bother you, but at least in our situation, we definitely would have problems with that as a contamination issue.

At school - I wish I had more advice! We homeschool our kids, and after we had the diagnosis of celiac disease, I must admit that was a big relief to realize that we got to dodge that bullet, conatmination-wise.

Good luck!

T.H. Community Regular

Oh darn it - I mis-typed. :huh: I meant to say I don't think you are OVER-analyzing the CC potential. I think you were analyzing it just fine. Dang - sorry about that!

K8ling Enthusiast

LOL yeah I was a little confused at first but i got the idea. He's only 2, it's nursery school so I don't know if they eat at the tables in their classrooms or if they are in a different room. The school DOES wipe him down and change his clothes before I pick him up which is hard on me laundry wise but keeps his from CCing me. There is a student in his class that is allergic to wheat so they are pretty good with keeping it off and away from the kids.

I guess it was just like I saw ALL this food that could make me sick...and then realized kids were coated in it like little kid chicken tenders dipped in flour. And then it was like "Oh joy". I dunno, I may not go back again just because I can't climb like that again lol I may only be 23 but those were not made for chicks who are 6'1"!!!

T.H. Community Regular

Ha, definitely not made for bigger folks!

I remember this one poor guy - and he was only maybe 5'10" - who had to try and crawl up into the play area to get his kids, and he got stuck on the slide! Had to have another adult help him out. :D

LOL yeah I was a little confused at first but i got the idea. He's only 2, it's nursery school so I don't know if they eat at the tables in their classrooms or if they are in a different room. The school DOES wipe him down and change his clothes before I pick him up which is hard on me laundry wise but keeps his from CCing me. There is a student in his class that is allergic to wheat so they are pretty good with keeping it off and away from the kids.

I guess it was just like I saw ALL this food that could make me sick...and then realized kids were coated in it like little kid chicken tenders dipped in flour. And then it was like "Oh joy". I dunno, I may not go back again just because I can't climb like that again lol I may only be 23 but those were not made for chicks who are 6'1"!!!

K8ling Enthusiast

I nearly got stuck...I told the guy at the top, "I can do the Marine obstacle course but I can't handle a kids play center?!"

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - MI-Hoosier replied to MI-Hoosier's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      Test uncertainty

    2. - Heather Hill replied to Heather Hill's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      Does this definitely suggest Coeliac Disease?

    3. - trents replied to MI-Hoosier's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      Test uncertainty

    4. - MI-Hoosier replied to MI-Hoosier's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      Test uncertainty

    5. - trents replied to MI-Hoosier's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      Test uncertainty


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      128,254
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    brigette
    Newest Member
    brigette
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.1k
    • Total Posts
      70.8k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • MI-Hoosier
      Thanks again. My mom was diagnosed over 50 years ago with celiac so grew up watching her deal with the challenges of food. I have been tested a few times prior due to this but these results have me a bit stunned. I have a liver disease that has advanced rapidly with no symptoms and an allergy that could be a contributing factor that had no symptoms. I guess I’ll call it lucky my Dr ordered a rescreen of a liver ultrasound from 5 years ago that triggered this or I would likely have tripped into cirrhosis. It’s all pretty jarring.
    • Heather Hill
      Many thanks for your responses, much appreciated.  The tests did include tTg IgA and all the other markers mentioned.  I also had sufficient total IgA so if I'm reading the Mayo clinic thing correctly, I didn't really need the anti-deaminated gliadin marker? So, if I am reading the information correctly do I conclude that as all the other markers including tTg IgA and DGP IgG and tTg IgG and EMA IgA are all negative, then the positive result for the immune response to gliadin, on it's own, is more likely to suggest some other problem in the gut rather than Coeliac disease? Until I have a view from the medics (NHS UK) then I think I will concentrate on trying to lower chronic inflammation and mend leaky gut, using L glutamine and maybe collagen powder. Thank you for your help so far.  I will get back in touch once I have a response, which sadly can take quite a long time.   Kindest Heather Hill 
    • trents
      To put this in perspective, most recent pretest "gluten challenge" guidelines for those having already been eating reduced gluten or gluten free for a significant time period is the daily consumption of 10g of gluten (about the amount in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of two weeks leading up to the day of testing (antibody or biopsy). And I would certainly give it more than two weeks to ensure a valid test experience. Short answer: If it were me, yes, I would assume I have celiac disease and launch full bore into gluten-free eating. I think the tTG-IGA is reliable enough and your score is solid enough to make that a reasonable conclusion. Here is an article to help you get off to a good start. It's easy to achieve a reduced gluten free state but much more difficult to achieve consistency in truly gluten-free eating. Gluten is hidden in so many ways and found in so many food products where you would never expect to find it. For example, soy sauce and canned tomato soup (most canned soups, actually), pills, medications, health supplements. It can be disguised in terminology. And then there is the whole issue of cross contamination where foods that are naturally gluten free become contaminated with gluten incidentally in agricultural activities and manufacturing processes: Eating out at restaurants is a mine field for those with celiac disease because you don't know how food is handled back in the kitchen. Gluten free noodles boiled in the same water that was used for wheat noodles, eggs cooked on the same griddle that French toast was, etc.  
    • MI-Hoosier
      Thank you for the response and article. I was placed on the Mediterranean diet and been on that now for about 3 weeks. While not gluten free I am eating very little bread or anything with gluten ie a slice of whole wheat bread every couple days so assume that would cause issues now with a biopsy.  With the condition my liver is in I am unsure moving back to higher bread consumption is ideal.  In this scenario would my test results be enough to assume positive Celiac and just move forward gluten free?
    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @MI-Hoosier! You are operating on a misconception about your "mixed" test results. You only had two celiac disease diagnostic tests run out of six that could have been ordered if your doctor had opted for a complete celiac panel. It is perfectly normal to not test positive for all possible celiac disease diagnostic tests. That is why there is more than one test option. It is the same way with other diagnostic testing procedures for many or most other diseases. Generally, when diagnosing a condition, a number of different tests are run and a diagnosis is arrived at by looking at the total body of evidence. The tTG-IGA test is the centerpiece of celiac disease blood antibody testing and the one most commonly ordered by doctors. You were strongly positive for that test. It was not an unequivocal result, IMO.  Having said that, it is standard procedure to confirm a positive celiac disease blood antibody test result with an endoscopy/biopsy which is still considered the gold standard of celiac disease diagnosis. Had your tTG-IGA been 150 or greater, your doctor many have opted out of the endoscopy/biopsy. The absence of GI distress in the celiac disease population is very common. We call them "silent celiacs". That can change as damage to the lining of the small bowel worsens. Elevated liver enzymes/liver stress is very common in the celiac population. About 18% of celiacs experience it. I was one of them. Persistently elevated liver enzymes over a period of years in the absence of other typical causes such as hepatitis and alcohol abuse was what eventually led to my celiac disease diagnosis. But it took thirteen years to get that figured out. Within three months of going gluten free my liver enzymes were back into normal range. Thank goodness, there is more awareness these days about the many long fingers of celiac disease that are not found in the classic category of GI distress. Today, there have been over 200 symptoms/medical conditions identified as connected to celiac disease. It is critical that you not begin a gluten free diet until your endoscopy/biopsy of the small bowel is over. Doing so before that procedure will invalidate it because it will allow healing of the small bowel lining to begin. Here is a link to an article covering celiac disease blood antibody testing:  
×
×
  • Create New...