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Washing Dishes In The Dishwasher


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gflooser Contributor

Assuming I have a gluten-free dishwasher safe soap and I think I do, I've been wondering if washing the dishes in the dishwasher takes away all glutens from the dishes that my family may have had gluten on. I do wash all dishes clean before they go into the washer, but I was just wondering if you guys out there feel confident that once they come out, they are safe from cross contamination.

Also, if it weren't safe, how do we eat in restaurants????

Thanks a bunch!


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dilettantesteph Collaborator

I don't know about your dishwasher, but mine often leaves little bits of food behind. The ones that I see I can take care of. What about the ones that are too small to see? Maybe that's why I kept having symptoms until our whole household went gluten free.

I don't eat in restaurants. I got tired of getting sick from it.

Lisa Mentor

A good rinse before a run in the dishwasher should take care of the gluten.

gflooser Contributor

i forgot to mention that i do rinse any dish i use before i use it :D

StephanieGF Rookie

Let's not give me something else to be paranoid about. :) I think as long as you pre-rinse you should be fine. If it is a particularity gluten-y or dirty load, maybe running an extra rinse cycle first would be wise?

As for restaurants, I don't know... some of those machines are very hot (kill germs) but don't run very long. IT should be fine unless there is encrusted food type stuff on the dishes. I believe I have been glutened from not so clean dishes.

gflooser Contributor

Let's not give me something else to be paranoid about. :) I think as long as you pre-rinse you should be fine. If it is a particularity gluten-y or dirty load, maybe running an extra rinse cycle first would be wise?

As for restaurants, I don't know... some of those machines are very hot (kill germs) but don't run very long. IT should be fine unless there is encrusted food type stuff on the dishes. I believe I have been glutened from not so clean dishes.

i hear ya about being paranoid! i feel like a freak everytime i go ANYWHERE and start asking the standard questions. even to a family event!!! i've been very frustrated lately!!!!! when i think i'm accidentally glutened, a search far and wide for what could have gotten me, but i'm so careful. ugh............

jerseyangel Proficient

I can understand your worry, but thoroughly rinsing everything before putting them into the dishwasher will be fine.

I'm in a temporary situation right now where I'm living with a family member with a tiny kitchen and no dishwasher. I am very sensitive to cross contamination, but have not had a problem. I do the same--rinse everything well before hand, washing in hot, soapy water, and rinsing well again.


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introversal Newbie

I'm not sure if rinsing is enough. I've been glutened by one of my own mugs before when I failed to scrub it thoroughly enough, and I've been noticing that I get reactions from gluten-free foods when I eat them using utensils from dishwashers shared with glutinous items. Gluten has "glue" in the name

Adalaide Mentor

I share a kitchen with my MIL. While still continuing to share dishes and the dishwasher I continued to be frequently sick. After beginning to use my own dishes, this stopped. This may have been due to a problem with the dishwasher itself, how it was used or loaded, the condition of the dishes when they were put in or none of the above. There is also a problem with everyone in the house leaving the silverware drawer just a little bit open. Just a little. And doing things like throwing toast in the toaster then grabbing a plate. Who knows which which was making me sick, but I can say that I don't share kitchen space any more. I also wash all my own dishes by hand.

lovegrov Collaborator

I have no problem with it.

richard

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My Hubs is a gluten lover and we have no problems. I do however, scrub and rinse dishes before they go in the dishwasher and I wipe out the utensil drawers weekly. I also use many paper towels to quickly wipe out a plate, frying pan, etc. Before I use it. My Hubs uses lots of flour so wiping out before use is a must. Good luck. :D

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