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Sick Just By Touching Or Smelling Gluten


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Gbkl Newbie

Yes it’s real . I also get very sick just smelling bread . I have wheat/gluten allergy . And most people around don’t believe it and think I’m crazy or something but the fact is I didn’t know what makes me so sick for 2 years it was very hard to find out what actually causing it . So definitely  can not be mental .


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On 9/8/2013 at 8:09 AM, MarkLevy said:

has anyone ever heard of cocaine? ever see a movie they are all wearing masks? ever walk into a lab where cocaine was being made?of probably not but if you did without a mask on you would not only get high your blood would test positive......how is walking down the bread isle for an extremly sensitive celiac/non celiac with gluten intolerence any different?? time and time again (thank god...ok not thank god as i dont want others suffering but thank god as now i know im not the only one) but thank god im reading all these posts saying i live near a wheat farm and in peak season im glutened every day....i cant walk down the bread isle....i cant walk into a pizza place....none of you are crazy!! i owned a successful deli/catering company i sold because going to work was making me so ill i was positive i had ms...what was it...airborne gluten....i dont care what any professional tells me i know what my body says

I agree 100% . I also getting sick of smelling bread or pasta and it’s not mental 

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On 6/3/2015 at 1:22 AM, nvsmom said:

If she is not eating anything while there, or walking through a flour dust cloud, then it is most likely not celiac disease or non-celiac gluten sensitivity (NCGS. for which there is no test.  That disease and sensitivity are triggered by consuming gluten, meaning it has to get inside and onto your mucus membranes.  Celiacs can handled normal baked goods without any risk of being affected because gluten can not pass through our skin - it is much too large to do that.

 

Wheat allergies can cause a reaction without eating wheat, but the symptoms you list do not really sound like a histamine (IgE) reaction.  I do know that allergy testing is not 100% reliable so it is possible to get false positives and negatives on those tests.

 

A psychological reaction is not crazy.  If that is the issue, that is a real issue!  Just because the brain is controlling a reaction does not make it any less real than when another part of the body triggers the reaction.  Some celiac disease symptoms, like neuropathies, can be said to be all in the head, but it doesn't make them any less horrible or debilitating.  KWIM?

 

For instance, some doctors believe that some asthmatic reactions are psychological and linked to anxiety. This is not a widely accepted belief yet but it makes me wonder... I had a childhood friend with severe asthma, who got to the point where he was off to the hospital if he saw peanut butter sandwiches from across the room.  His symptoms were horrible but I wonder if part of that was psychological since he was over 10 feet away from the peanut butter and was fine until he knew it was there.

 

So she was tested for celiac disease?  Did they run the full panel?  Some doctors only run one or two tests, which is a problem since some of those tests can miss a significant minority of celiacs.  These are all of the tests:

ttG IgA and tTG IgG

DGP IGA and DGP IgG (deaminated gliadin peptides)

EMA IgA

total serum IgA - control test

AGA IgA and AGA IgG - (anti-gliadian antibodies) -older and less reliable tests largely replaced by the DGP Test

endoscopic biopsy - 6+ samples taken

 

The blood tests require the patient be eating gluten in the 2-3 months prior to testing or you run a strong risk of getting false negative results.

 

Some doctors, and naturopaths, run IgG based food sensitivity tests, but those are not overly reliable and are not yet widely accepted.  They are not a reliable test for NCGS - only a positive response to the gluten-free diet is thought to be diagnostic of NCGS

 

She could try genetic testing too.  97% of celiacs have the DQ2 and /or the DQ8 gene(s), although you need to remember that 30% of the world also have those genes.  If she has the genes, she has about a 1 in 30 chance of being a celiac.  

 

Make sure she has had the testing done properly. If you are certain it is a gluten sensitivity and the tests were definitely a negative, then she may have NCGS, and staying gluten-free is all you can do.  

 

... Reacting to the smell of gluten sounds psychological to me though.... I get anxious in the bread aisle too, even though I know I am safe, so I know a psychological reaction is possible.

 

Best wishes

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Naomi Tucket Newbie

Why do I get sick after using lotion and skin care products with gluten in them?

Naomi Tucket Newbie
On 5/19/2012 at 12:05 AM, Stu said:

There are definitely different levels of sensitivity to gluten.

 

True story: I go to the doctor's office. The nurse/receptionist hands me a pen and clipboard, and I take a seat in the waiting room to fill out the forms. Within a minute or so, I get a nasty tin-foil taste in my mouth and my lips begin to burn. First stage of gluten exposure? Nah... Couldn't be. I'm in a DOCTOR'S OFFICE for cryin' out loud. Must be my imagination or something. I continue to fill out the forms. Then, I start to cough and gag - DEFINITELY gluten exposure, but where and how is it possible? That's when I look around and see the nurse/receptionist who handed me the pen and clipboard sitting at her desk noshing on a baggie full of banana bread. Geez! At least she could have wiped her hands off before she handed me the forms, that's just good hygiene! I quickly finish filling out the forms and hand them in. The nurses all back away from me because the reaction is now so strong they are convinced I have the dreaded Swine Flu... I excuse myself, then go to the bathroom to throw-up...

I explain this to my doctor when I see him. He scoffs, and tells me I have Acid Reflux... I never went back for the follow-up.

 

The dermal immune system in your skin is the first one to react, and it happens so quickly and effectively that researchers believe they can improve the efficacy of vaccines by mimicking that response as the vaccines are administered. For this reason, there is no doubt in my mind that an anti-gliaden immune response can be initiated the moment someone simply comes into contact with a source of wheat gluten. It has happened to me many times, just coming into contact with bread crumbs or an empty pizza box. It can be a real pain in the neck, but on the positive side I never accidentally ingest wheat gluten when I can "feel" it before I'm at risk of becoming seriously exposed to it.

I agree because if I use skincare products I will get sick and I’m kind of tired of doctors and people saying that it’s in your head and you can only get sick if you eat it. I have lived with celiac disease for 15 years now and it took ten years for doctors to figure out what was wrong with me and now I’m being told that I can’t absorb gluten through my skin which is not true if they can give you a blood test to find antibodies then it can get into your body if a a patch can be absorbed through your skin and reach your blood stream to relieve your pain then why can’t gluten?

Scott Adams Grand Master
54 minutes ago, Naomi Tucket said:

Why do I get sick after using lotion and skin care products with gluten in them?

Some people with celiac disease are more sensitive than others. Do you have dermatitis herpetiformis? Are you in the super sensitive group?

Naomi Tucket Newbie
On 5/19/2012 at 3:05 AM, Stu said:

There are definitely different levels of sensitivity to gluten.

 

True story: I go to the doctor's office. The nurse/receptionist hands me a pen and clipboard, and I take a seat in the waiting room to fill out the forms. Within a minute or so, I get a nasty tin-foil taste in my mouth and my lips begin to burn. First stage of gluten exposure? Nah... Couldn't be. I'm in a DOCTOR'S OFFICE for cryin' out loud. Must be my imagination or something. I continue to fill out the forms. Then, I start to cough and gag - DEFINITELY gluten exposure, but where and how is it possible? That's when I look around and see the nurse/receptionist who handed me the pen and clipboard sitting at her desk noshing on a baggie full of banana bread. Geez! At least she could have wiped her hands off before she handed me the forms, that's just good hygiene! I quickly finish filling out the forms and hand them in. The nurses all back away from me because the reaction is now so strong they are convinced I have the dreaded Swine Flu... I excuse myself, then go to the bathroom to throw-up...

I explain this to my doctor when I see him. He scoffs, and tells me I have Acid Reflux... I never went back for the follow-up.

 

The dermal immune system in your skin is the first one to react, and it happens so quickly and effectively that researchers believe they can improve the efficacy of vaccines by mimicking that response as the vaccines are administered. For this reason, there is no doubt in my mind that an anti-gliaden immune response can be initiated the moment someone simply comes into contact with a source of wheat gluten. It has happened to me many times, just coming into contact with bread crumbs or an empty pizza box. It can be a real pain in the neck, but on the positive side I never accidentally ingest wheat gluten when I can "feel" it before I'm at risk of becoming seriously exposed to it.

Yes I believe you can get sick from touching anything with gluten on it the same thing happens to me yet these doctors keep saying it can’t be absorbed through the skin but it can and that’s why they call it practicing medicine because that’s what they are doing practicing. I was told it was in my head totally blew me off.


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