Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):

    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Questions On Testing And Symptoms

Hamster101

Recommended Posts

Hamster101 Rookie
Hamster101
Posted

Hey,

I've been on this site a while now, though I disappeared for a while when I got tangled up in life (University started, work ect) but over the last few months my health has begun to deteriorate to the point where I may as well be eating wheat and at least be suffering for something.

I want to get tested, and the Coeliacs confirmed so my Grandparent can stop trying to convince me I'm an attention seeker, but I'm worried about how long I have to eat gluten and wheat for the effects to become testable, and what kind of tests it would involve. Can someone offer me any guidelines on this, please?

I'm also worried about how to approach my doctor, as I know they are not all that happy with being told what is wrong with you. my doctor is a very nice man, but he seemed sceptical when I moved practices and added possible Coeliacs to my list of issues, as they failed to update it at my old surgery. should I approach him early and warn him I want the tests and go from there, or turn up incredibly sick and demand the tests? I'm not a particularly strong character, so I don't know how well that will work.

Finally, the symptom that has been getting worse over the last few months is a paint that starts about the height of my stomach (in my thoratic region, about the height of the last few ribs) with then moves rapidly, sometimes within minutes, down my abdomen until I need to run to the bathroom. if I dont go while it hurts really bad, I cant go for another hour, and remain in pain and uncomfortable for that time too. I alsocant take any kind of pressure on my thorax, as that develops from a mild discomfort to a sharp pain in about ten seconds.

Does anyone have any idea,s or suggestions?

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


Kim69 Apprentice
Kim69
Posted

Hi. I guess if I were you I would go to my dr and describe the symptoms. I don't know what your symptoms are apart from the pain but presumably they are gi related. Hopefully your dr will suggest coeliac as an option. Otherwise ask your dr for the full Coeliac blood tests. Or have an endoscope and biopsy. I think you will have to eat gluten such as bread for about a week.

Best of luck!

mushroom Proficient
mushroom
Posted

I am sorry to say that if you have been gluten free for any length of time, and it sounds as if you have, then you must eat gluten at the equivalent of three to four slices of bread a day for a period of two months to have any chance of the tests being positive. In the absence of gluten the antibodies to it leave the bloodstream, and the damage to the intestine starts to heal so that the biopsy will probably not detect it in any shorter period of time.

When you eliminated gluten did you also eliminate lactose? If not, that could be a possible cause of your symptoms in the absence of gluten, since the enzymes we need for lactose digestion are located in the part of the small intestine that is damaged by gluten and it takes a while for the villi to grow back and start producing again. Also, have you been strict with your diet or has there been some cross-contamination creeping in?

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):


  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      128,178
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    Cind
    Newest Member
    Cind
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.1k
    • Total Posts
      70.7k
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Wheatwacked
      Testing

      By Wheatwacked · Posted

      Once you have removed the inflammatories, it is time to focus on the deficiencies.  A lot of them not specific to Celiac, but deficiency in them elicits symptoms associated with Celiac. According to research, celiac disease tends to be more prevalent in urban areas compared to rural areas.  Same is true with airborne viruses.  Because urban residents get less sunlight.  To top it off we use lotion and gear to block the little light there is.  This compremises the vitamin D blood level.  A virus attack further lowers vitamin D and the immune system loses control over the Celiac genes and they go into acute symptoms. 40% to 75% depending depending on country are vitamin D deficient. 50% do not eat the Adequit Intake for potassium (4700 mg a day) 90% do n ot eat the Adequit Intake for Choline. Iodine intake since 1970 had dropped 50%.  The western diet is typically excessive in omega 6 fatty acid compared to omega 3.  Above 14:1 by some estimates.  So they sell us expensive, processed oils to compensate.  Anyway after 10 years gluten free myself,  here is what has helped me in just the past few years; once I realized I was at a healing plateau and just GFD would not cut it, and reallized my deficiencies.  Most recently, I started a statin which I only took for two weeks before it started to cripple me.   Got a prescription for Nicotinic Acid to 2000 and am more flexible now Plus HDL went 29 to 44, eGFR from 55 to 79. I also learned if the pharmacist gets a prescription for Niacin that it is dealer's choice whether you get Nicotinic Acid or Niacinimide.  And it comes out of a regular vitamin manufacturer.   "likely deficiencies and what I take to boost my intake (I get anorexic at the drop of a hat so I take them to keep me stable):  the ones that helped me the most noticibly Was increasing vitamin D blood level to 80 ng/ml and Iodine to 500 mcg once or twice a day, Thiamine, Choline, and Iodine. 10,000 IU vitamin D 500 mg Thiamine or more Choline Iodine – 600 to 1200 mcg of Liquid Iodine Vitamin B2 helps break down proteins, fats, and carbohydrates. It plays a vital role in maintaining the body's energy supply.  500 mg Nicotinic Acid - increase capillary blood flow, lower cholesterol. I recently started 2000 mg a day instead of a statin which I cannot tolerate. I the first month my HDL went from 29 to 44. eGFR (kidney function) jumped from 55 ti 75. It also has make my whole body less stiff. The ichy, flushing with the first few doses goes away. The non flush forms of vitamin B3 do not work. It is the relaxing of the capillaries and tendons. 500 mg Pantothenic Acid vitamin B5 Omega-3 and Omega-6 Fatty Acids in Vegetables  Eating more of the vegetables low in omega six and high omega 3 can reduce inflammation Whole Milk Vanilla yogurt to which I add 100 grams of raspberrys, black berries and blueberries has lots of probiotics and makes my tummy and body happy. Red Bull has sugar (not high fructose corn syrup) and the vitamins (B2,3,5,6 need to metabolize to ATP energy and Taurine as an antioxident). It is a good source of energy for me because my genetic hyperlipidemia does not process complex carbs well.        
    • trents
      For people with celiac disease and corn intolerance from it: Is salt still okay for most people?

      By trents · Posted

      Gluten-like cross reactions to other foods are from the proteins that make them up. Dextrose is the sugar component found in corn.
    • Ryangf
      For people with celiac disease and corn intolerance from it: Is salt still okay for most people?

      By Ryangf · Posted

      I just found out a few days ago that some salt like table salt contains dextrose that’s derived from corn. I’ve been thinking about getting rid of using table salt and just using my own kosher or Himalayan salt, but tbh I’m reluctant to do it. I’ve cut out a lot of things and I don’t really want to cut out anything else that I’m not sure will effect me…in a super small amount that it might be added to salts to stabilize the iodine. I don’t want to be further alienated when I have to go to a restaurant with my friends. Also most of the items at my house that have salt in it canned food etc. are some of the few quick things I can eat- because I’m not the one paying for the food in my household and i can only ask for so much. I’m not in a place financially where I can get a lot of my specialized items- although my family tries their best to get items I Can actually stand. I get I can bring a my own salt with me at a restaurant and ask for no seasoning but it feels like a lot to me- cause I already check for cross contamination and ask if the food has like a high volume of corn in it like cornstarch etc. I’ve also heard most dextrose is not derived from the Zein (corn gluten) portion of it- so it might be safe- but idk if that’s true. I just wanna know if anyone actually responded to it negatively.
    • Scott Adams
      I’m so confused…

      By Scott Adams · Posted

      For my first couple of years after discovering my celiac disease I also had to avoid cow's milk/casein and eggs, as well as other things, but could tolerate duck eggs and sheep and goat's milk products. I'm not sure if you've tried those, but it could be worth testing them out.
    • knitty kitty
      I’m so confused…

      By knitty kitty · Posted

      Hello, @Kwinkle, How are you doing?   Have you tried adding a Magnesium supplement?   The B Complex vitamins need magnesium to work properly, especially thiamine vitamin B 1.   Magnesium deficiency symptoms and Thiamine deficiency symptoms both include gas and bloating.  Thiamine deficiency symptoms also include loss of appetite and fatigue.   My gas and bloating resolved rather quickly when I took Benfotiamine (a form of thiamine shown to promote intestinal healing) and Magnesium Glycinate in addition to my B 50 Complex (all twice a day plus the following...).   I found Magnesium L-Threonate or Magnesium Taurate are better when taken with a form of thiamine called TTFD (Tetrahydrofurfuryl dusulfide) because all of these cross the blood brain barrier easily, which corrects the loss of appetite, fatigue and anxiety.    Like @Celiacandme said, keeping a food/mood/poo'd journal is a big help in finding problematic foods, and for making sure your diet is not carbohydrate heavy.  If you're eating a lot if processed gluten free facsimile foods, be aware they do not have vitamins and minerals added to them like their gluten containing counterparts.  For every 1000 kcal of carbohydrates, we need an extra 500 mg of thiamine to turn them into energy and not store them as fat.   Let us know how you're doing!
×
×
  • Create New...