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Digesting Glass?


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" YES, my abdominal pain was EXCRUCIATING. It went from slight to chronic to excruciating over a 10 year period when I was consuming more gluten (esp. wheat bran cereals and whole wheat recommended for 'IBS' symptoms). HOWEVER, my pains were more often in the intestinal area. The worst felt like bits of broken glass slowly moving through my intestines. Sometimes I felt like something was inside my intestines trying to tear its way out. I also experience what feels like severe menstrual cramps, but I finished menopause 7 years ago. :huh: I get those symptoms everytime I accidentally consume gluten, casein or soy (mostly the cramps with the last 2). After about a week of avoiding those, all the pain disappears (until my next 'accident' :o). " This was posted by Burdee I think....

I was lucky to run across this post using the search function and it describes exactly how I feel. Since I just got my blood taken two days ago and don't have the results back I am just hoping the gluten-free diet will help. My husband insisted that I start first thing this morning so I had a Carnation Instant Breakfast, and later some Fiddle Faddle. I checked the ingredients and I am pretty sure they were safe but I still had the horrible cramping, it actually felt like I was digesting glass (or at least what I would imagine it would feel like :D )

Does it make since to have this pain if I am eating gluten-free, or am I still digesting that muffin from last night? I want to feel better yesterday. I would appreciate any input.

Thanks,

Melissa


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That is EXACTLY how I used to describe it. Like I swallowed a bunch of glass and it was trying to get out.

If you are just starting the gluten-free diet, you are probably going to make some mistakes before you get the hang of it. Most of us did. But it's also too soon to be seeing major improvements. Give it some time, and just be as careful as you can be to stay gluten-free.

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For me, I wouldn't have said glass, because it wasn't quite that sharp edged, but I can see how it would be a close description. (That symptom doesn't last for me for that long, but man is it uncomfortable when it does... last time was on a plane... NO FUN!)

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