Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Advice Needed


NewYrsBB

Recommended Posts

NewYrsBB Newbie

Hello, I'm new here, looking for help! I'm sort of rambling here, so please bear with me :)

I was dx with IBS-C (w/pain/gas/bloating) 2 years ago following neg. celiac blood test (I was also on the Atkins diet at the time), colonoscopy, crohn's screening (fluoroscopy?), etc. I was told to increase fiber intake, and was given Zelnorm, Miralax, NuLev to manage the symptoms (I currently take Miralax and acacia fiber to help with constipation). The pain I experience is on the lower right side of my abdomen, and sometimes it is trapped gas, but other times it seems like my intestines seize up in that one spot. When I had the pain constantly, I noticed it was when I was eating either Fiber One or the Atkins breakfast cereal (which lists gluten as an ingredient). I believe there is definitely a correlation. I now alternate between rice cereal or oatmeal for breakfast, both with lactose-free milk, which has helped reduce the pain episodes.

During my last GI visit about 6 mos ago, I told my doc I thought I had problems with wheat and wondered if I could be one of the false negative blood tests you hear about. She said the only way to know for sure if I have celiac is to have a biopsy. She also said I could simply eliminiate gluten from my diet and see how I feel. I decided I would simply try to avoid gluten - which is much easier said than done!! I do avoid it 90% of the time, but the 10% I eat it, I get totally backed up, feel tired and sluggish, achy joints, etc.

I'm rethinking the idea of a biopsy, but would I need to increase my gluten intake and if so, for how long to know whether it is causing damage? Is it really worth it? Maybe I'm just gluten intolerant!

Thanks so much for any advice you can give!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



KaitiUSA Enthusiast

Which blood tests did you have done? Did you get all of the following tests?

Anti-Gliadin (AGA) IgA

Anti-Gliadin (AGA) IgG

Anti-Endomysial (EMA) IgA

Anti-Tissue Transglutaminase (tTG) IgA

Total Serum IgA

Some are better and more specific then others. In fact, one of the blood tests is getting ready to take the place of biopsies for diagnosis at least in children.

A biopsy can be good. A positive one can rule it in but a negative one CAN NOT rule it it out. There could be no damage in beginning stages or sporadic damage that they can't see.

You need to be on gluten for about 3 months before a biopsy eating equal to about 2-3 pieces of bread a day.

Another consideration would be an Enterolab testing. They can do gene testing with a mouth swab and stool testing to test for malabsorption, tTG, gluten sensitivity, etc.

Go to www.enterolab.com for more details. I don't think you need to get on more gluten for that test either. For blood tests or biopsies it would be different though.

Also, gene testing may be a good option because if you do not have a celiac gene you are 99.9% chance of not getting celiac. There are gluten intolerance genes as well but only Enterolab tests for those genes. You can get testing through Enterolab with the mouth swab or there are blood tests to get done ordered by doctors but with that they only test for celiac genes.

Hope you get some answers soon :D

tarnalberry Community Regular

Just backing up what Katie said, and adding that the test of trying the diet is a test in and of itself. If you get that other 10% out of your diet, feel better, and four weeks later try one meal with plenty of gluten, that is a very valuable test as well - without having to do it for 3 months. *Some* doctors will take that as evidence, but not many.

NewYrsBB Newbie

Thank you, Kaiti & Tiffany! It sounds like I have a few options at this point...

Kaiti, here are my blood test results (from 11/2002):

Tissue Tansglutaminase AB IGA - 4 units

Gliadin AB IGG - 6 units

Gliadin AB IGA - 9 units

(values under 20 are considered normal)

Did they miss something??

Thanks again for your advice!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      127,881
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Sky Dancer
    Newest Member
    Sky Dancer
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121k
    • Total Posts
      70.5k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Scott Adams
      @Mynx, how long have you been gluten-free? I ask because many newly diagnosed celiacs react to many things, and often think their reactions are caused by gluten, when in fact, they are really caused by a combination of a sensitive gut due to damage, as well as additional food intolerance/leaky gut issues to other foods which may be temporary until their villi heal.
    • Scott Adams
      Many major brands of distilled vinegar in the USA, including Heinz white vinegar, are typically made from corn. In the United States, corn is a common and cost-effective raw material used in the production of distilled white vinegar. The process involves fermenting the sugars derived from corn into alcohol, which is then further fermented into acetic acid to produce vinegar. Distillation follows, which purifies the liquid and removes impurities, including any residual proteins or allergens. While the source of the vinegar (e.g., corn) is not always explicitly stated on the label, corn-derived vinegar is widely used in the food industry due to its neutral flavor and affordability. For individuals with gluten intolerance or celiac disease, distilled vinegar made from corn is generally considered safe, as the distillation process effectively removes gluten proteins. However, if you have concerns about cross-contamination or specific sensitivities, it’s always a good idea to contact the manufacturer directly to confirm the sourcing and production practices. Heinz, for example, has stated that their distilled white vinegar is gluten-free and safe for those with celiac disease, but verifying this information can provide additional peace of mind. The belief that distilled vinegar is gluten-free is rooted in the scientific understanding that gluten proteins, which are large and complex molecules, are generally too big to pass through the distillation process. Distillation involves heating a liquid to create vapor, which is then condensed back into a liquid form, leaving behind larger molecules like gluten proteins. However, the concern about cross-contamination arises from the possibility that gluten-containing ingredients may have been present in the liquid prior to distillation. While the distillation process itself is highly effective at removing gluten, the equipment used in production could potentially introduce trace amounts of gluten if not thoroughly cleaned between batches. For most individuals with gluten sensitivity or celiac disease, distilled vinegar is considered safe because the gluten content, if any, is typically below the threshold that would trigger a reaction. However, for those with extreme gluten intolerance or celiac disease, even trace amounts can cause adverse effects. This is why some individuals, like yourself, may choose to avoid commercially produced distilled vinegar and opt for alternatives like apple cider vinegar, which can be verified as gluten-free. The meticulous process of researching ingredients and preparing homemade products, such as ketchup, is indeed challenging but crucial for maintaining health and avoiding gluten exposure. It’s important to note that regulatory standards for gluten-free labeling vary by region, and in many places, products labeled "gluten-free" must contain less than 20 parts per million (ppm) of gluten, which is considered safe for the vast majority of people with celiac disease. Nonetheless, individual sensitivity levels can vary, and your approach highlights the importance of personalized dietary management for those with severe gluten intolerance.
    • Bebee
      I have been diagnosed with Microscopic Colitis (LC) for quite a few years, so I have been gluten-free and DF.  I would like to get tested for Celiac Disease because of the possibility of cross contamination and colon cancer.  And if you were hospitalized and didn't have a celiac diagnosis you could not get gluten-free food, I don't know if that is true or not.  Also because there is chance of colon cancer so I want to know if I have Celiac Disease and need to be on very restrictive diet.  The only testing I did was a sigmoid scope and Enter Lab but no gene testing.  I know I can go back to eating gluten for a few months, but I would worry you would have to stay home for the few months while getting gluten.  What other options do I have?  Should I do the gene testing?  Maybe through Entero Lab?  Any other tests?  How important is it to have Celiac diagnosed? Thank you! Barb
    • trents
      Take it easy! I was just prompting you for some clarification.  In the distillation process, the liquid is boiled and the vapor descends up a tube and condenses into another container as it cools. What people are saying is that the gluten molecules are too large and heavy to travel up with the vapor and so get left behind in the original liquid solution. Therefore, the condensate should be free of gluten, no matter if there was gluten in the original solution. The explanation contained in the second sentence I quoted from your post would not seem to square with the physics of the distillation process. Unless, that is, I misunderstood what you were trying to explain.
    • Mynx
      No they do not contradict each other. Just like frying oil can be cross contaminated even though the oil doesn't contain the luten protein. The same is the same for a distilled vinegar or spirit which originally came from a gluten source. Just because you don't understand, doesn't mean you can tell me that my sentences contradict each other. Do you have a PhD in biochemistry or friends that do and access to a lab?  If not, saying you don't understand is one thing anything else can be dangerous to others. 
×
×
  • Create New...